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I'm surprised that's not asked more often. Maybe people use the search box to install add-ons, but that's unreliable. 13:47:17 <-- rosonline has quit (Client exited) 13:48:19 --> rosonline has joined #instantbird 14:12:02 <flo-retina> I think most people just don't install add-ons 14:12:17 <flo-retina> and those that do are the kind of people who can't help clicking on each and every button of the UI anyway :-D 14:14:16 * flo-retina took lots of photo yesterday 14:16:52 <flo-retina> eg. http://queze.net/goinfre/Retromobile2013/large/IMG_5713.jpg http://queze.net/goinfre/Retromobile2013/large/IMG_5963.jpg http://queze.net/goinfre/Retromobile2013/large/IMG_5945.jpg 14:17:36 <flo-retina> my new camera seems to be working well :) 14:34:45 <Optimizer> what buttons are you talking about ? 14:46:54 <aleth> flo-retina: so it does :) 14:47:30 <aleth> that car looks almost like fresh from the factory... 14:48:02 <aleth> Optimizer: the tools button in the add-on manager 14:50:35 <flo-retina> aleth: they all looked like fresh from the factory 14:50:47 <-- rosonline has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.3 -- http://www.instantbird.com) 14:52:28 <flo-retina> except this one http://queze.net/goinfre/Retromobile2013/large/IMG_5965.jpg despite http://queze.net/goinfre/Retromobile2013/large/IMG_5829.jpg saying "This car is totally original untouched." 14:54:00 <aleth> pre-crumpled ;) 15:13:19 --> unghost has joined #instantbird 15:36:05 <-- unghost has quit (Input/output error) 15:44:53 --> mikk_s has joined #instantbird 15:45:04 <flo-retina> is there really no way to configure the mailing list to accept messages sent to contact@ib.org without complaining? :( 15:45:23 <-- mikk_s has left #instantbird () 15:49:48 <flo-retina> aleth: I think we'll checkin https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=830456 on Ib's side soon. It was the patch blocking you on something else because of bitrot, right? 15:50:18 <aleth> flo-retina: Ah, yes, thanks for the heads-up! 15:50:30 <aleth> Any other TB patches that will be merged? 15:52:03 <Optimizer> re: https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1554 15:52:07 <instantbot> Bug 1554 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, IRC should notify the user when messages couldn't be sent 15:52:11 <flo-retina> I don't remember 15:52:25 <Optimizer> I think the bug is still valid, as even though I get a message saying that "Your account is not connected" 15:52:56 <Optimizer> I have no clue whether the message sent just before the "Your account is not connected" was received by the server 15:53:47 <aleth> I'm not sure there is a way for IB to find out either :-| 15:53:52 <Optimizer> although most of the time I take it that the message was not sent and that is the case only 15:54:23 <Optimizer> the thing is, lets say I have been disconnected for about 20 seconds 15:54:32 <Optimizer> I will not get the message saying the same 15:54:39 <Optimizer> until I try to send a ping 15:54:48 <Optimizer> (or a message on the channel) 16:05:43 <-- gerard-majax has quit (Connection reset by peer) 16:05:45 --> gerard-majax_ has joined #instantbird 16:08:57 <aleth> IB now regularly sends its own pings 16:09:24 <aleth> In the case that you see "not connected" immediately on sending a message, is the error you see in the error console always "Connection reset"? 16:40:20 <-- SM0TVI has quit (Ping timeout) 16:41:31 --> SM0TVI has joined #instantbird 16:43:36 <-- SM0TVI has quit (Ping timeout) 16:43:53 <aleth> Optimizer: ^^ or has the error message changed since the bug was filed? 16:44:27 <flo-retina> the guy who complained about JS-XMPP not working with Google's two factor auth was actually having an issue with a contact using iTeleport. 16:44:39 <flo-retina> (I just received an error log) 16:44:43 <aleth> another one... 16:44:52 <aleth> Hopefully they will fix that soon 16:44:56 --> SM0TVI has joined #instantbird 16:57:59 --> mpmc has joined #instantbird 17:06:46 <-- gerard-majax_ has quit (Client exited) 17:12:24 --> gerard-majax has joined #instantbird 17:14:31 --> jb has joined #instantbird 17:31:57 <-- gerard-majax has quit (Quit: Ex-Chat) 17:32:01 --> gerard-majax_ has joined #instantbird 17:39:31 <aleth> flo-retina: any thoughts on the patch in bug 1732 (in particualr the question in the first comment)? 17:39:34 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1732 enh, --, ---, aleth, ASSI, Port the log tree and concatenated daily logs from TB 17:45:46 --> qlum has joined #instantbird 18:02:58 --> gerard-majax__ has joined #instantbird 18:03:10 <-- gerard-majax_ has quit (Ping timeout) 18:31:40 --> Mnyromyr has joined #instantbird 18:40:53 <-- Tonnes has quit (Connection reset by peer) 18:50:53 <-- gerard-majax__ has quit (Ping timeout) 18:51:20 --> Tonnes has joined #instantbird 18:58:12 --> gerard-majax__ has joined #instantbird 18:59:59 --> mconley has joined #instantbird 19:06:19 <-- jb has quit (Connection reset by peer) 19:37:16 --> DGMurdockIII has joined #instantbird 19:52:52 <instantbot> aleth@instantbird.org requested feedback from the wind for attachment 2226 on bug 1554. 19:52:54 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1554 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, IRC should notify the user when messages couldn't be sent 19:54:09 <-- DGMurdockIII has quit (Ping timeout) 19:54:30 <Optimizer> feedback from the wind ? :D 19:54:35 --> DGMurdockIII has joined #instantbird 19:55:13 <Optimizer> anyways, aleth that seems to be the right approach .. will try it out soon. 19:58:30 <aleth> Optimizer: gah, I put your email in there 19:58:38 <aleth> bugzilla loses the email address sometimes 19:58:43 <Optimizer> :D 19:59:02 <Optimizer> The perfect bugzilla will be bmo only then :) 19:59:12 <aleth> Oh, it's because you don't have editbugs on the IB bugzilla... 19:59:43 <aleth> Optimizer: We were expecting to move there... eventually 20:00:30 <aleth> But the bugzilla team is quite busy 20:00:46 <-- mpmc has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.4a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 20:02:16 --> mpmc has joined #instantbird 20:10:56 <-- Mnyromyr has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [SeaMonkey 1.1.19/2010030105]) 20:25:39 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 20:25:39 * ChanServ sets mode +h Mic 20:26:12 <Mic> My problem with BMO is that the server seems to be quite busy all the time :P 20:26:16 <Mic> *servers 20:27:04 <aleth> Mic: Maybe that's why their team is so busy? ;) 20:27:42 <Mic> Maybe it's because it gots lots of stuff to serve to its users and lots of stuff to search through? ;) 20:28:32 <aleth> Surely not! 20:28:35 <Optimizer> The isntant search on BMO is super fast, how can you say that the srevers are too busy ? 20:29:09 <-- mconley has quit (Input/output error) 20:29:41 <flo-retina> Optimizer: when committing changes it takes a while, probably because it has lots of emails to send around 20:30:12 <Optimizer> yeah. that . you should see some oh the bugzilla implementations that I have worked with :| 20:31:15 <-- DGMurdockIII has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90 [Firefox 18.0.2/20130201065344]) 20:32:21 <-- Mic has quit (Quit: Output/input error) 20:37:52 --> EionRobb has joined #instantbird 20:46:44 <-- zen_monkey has quit (Ping timeout) 20:53:02 <-- gerard-majax__ has quit (Ping timeout) 20:53:28 --> DGMurdockIII has joined #instantbird 20:54:58 --> gerard-majax__ has joined #instantbird 20:57:52 <-- Optimizer has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.4a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 21:08:01 --> Optimizer has joined #instantbird 21:23:54 <-- Suiseiseki has quit (Quit: Leaving) 21:26:05 --> jb has joined #instantbird 21:33:08 <-- gerard-majax__ has quit (Ping timeout) 21:59:34 <-- jb has quit (Ping timeout) 22:00:51 <flo-retina> aleth: re https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/attachment.cgi?id=2226 I think it would be better to write the error to the conversation before the gotDisconnected call (so that the error appears before the "your account is disconnected" line in the conversation window 22:02:51 <aleth> flo-retina: I wasn't sure about the order, thanks 22:03:02 <aleth> There's a couple of other things/cases which will have to be considered, but first I'd like to see if it addresses Optimizer's concerns 22:03:21 <flo-retina> aleth: my other comment is that the error message is too long 22:03:31 <flo-retina> but I'm not sure of how I would shorten it exactly 22:04:17 <flo-retina> and it doesn't really matter until we know if it actually helps! :) 22:04:31 <aleth> fwiw I agree ;) 22:06:25 --> Suiseiseki has joined #instantbird 22:16:02 * flo-retina has just pushed to mozilla-inbound 2 trivial fixes for startup warnings. 22:19:05 <flo-retina> so if I'm going to spend some time doing review during the next hour or so, I assume bug 1607 should be my priority, right? 22:19:08 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1607 nor, --, ---, clokep, ASSI, Update to Mozilla 18 22:20:32 <aleth> Definitely a good one... 22:26:43 <-- aleth has left #instantbird () 22:35:11 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 22:35:11 * ChanServ sets mode +h Mic 22:37:39 --> jb has joined #instantbird 22:40:02 <-- mpmc has quit (Connection reset by peer) 22:40:21 <flo-retina> so how come that doesn't build :-S 22:41:59 <-- jb has quit (Ping timeout) 22:46:22 <-- Mic has quit (Ping timeout) 22:52:59 --> zen_monkey has joined #instantbird 22:59:37 --> mconley has joined #instantbird 23:05:24 <-- qlum has quit (Quit: Getting the <censored> out.) 23:09:03 <-- skeledrew has quit (Ping timeout) 23:14:58 * flo-retina is already at the third different build error, on a thing he expected to just work :-/ 23:24:05 --> NicoHood has joined #instantbird 23:24:46 <-- NicoHood has left #instantbird () 23:24:52 --> NicoHood has joined #instantbird 23:24:54 <-- NicoHood has quit (Quit: NicoHood) 23:25:10 <flo-retina> so before I forget and in case clokep reads the log, the fix for the first error was http://pastebin.instantbird.com/139917 23:29:02 <flo-retina> the second fix was https://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/0761bc637081 23:29:36 <flo-retina> the third "fix" was http://pastebin.instantbird.com/139938 23:35:12 <flo-retina> the forth fix is https://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/b1a02ad79a22 23:38:09 --> jb has joined #instantbird 23:38:53 <-- jb has quit (Excess Flood) 23:43:23 --> skeledrew has joined #instantbird 23:47:38 <-- skeledrew has quit (Ping timeout) 23:50:15 <flo-retina> now failing with http://pastebin.instantbird.com/139940 23:50:28 <flo-retina> I'm too tired to continue debugging this right now 23:51:01 <flo-retina> the only place I found where this error is mentioned is https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=826111#c13 with a possible "fix" at https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=826111#c21 23:51:47 --> skeledrew has joined #instantbird 23:52:03 <flo-retina> the more I think about it, the more it seems like somehow somewhere in the build config we should have a -std=gnu++0x that's missing. 23:52:22 <flo-retina> it doesn't seem "right" that there are so many build failures on the mozilla/ side if we were using a supported build configuration 23:53:45 <flo-retina> Good night