#instantbird log on 02 07 2013

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03:35:57 <instant-buildbot> build #770 of linux-nightly-default is complete: Success [build successful]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/linux-nightly-default/builds/770
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11:32:10 <clokep> Good morning.
11:33:42 <flo> hello :)
11:36:35 <clokep> No more -retina?
11:40:41 <aleth> hullo :)
11:51:13 <aleth> Mic++ for the Instant Add-on ;)
11:53:35 <clokep> Is that something that should be included by default? It seems to be an accessibility concern?
11:53:57 <aleth> Reading the logs, it seems it's a workaround for an accessibility concern
11:54:17 * aleth hopes a screenreader user will file a bug suggesting a proper solution
11:55:02 <aleth> (and that a windows user fixes the bug that has been filed ;) shouldn't be hard...)
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12:01:38 * clokep can't think of a better way of doing https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/attachment.cgi?id=2221
12:02:13 * aleth hopes it works on Windows
12:02:32 <flo> clokep: -retina will be back after a restart
12:02:43 <flo> clokep: I would really like to be able to give that account a list of nicks ;)
12:04:02 <flo> clokep: if it's going to check some mintrayr prefs, I almost wonder if it shouldn't just live in the mintrayr code
12:05:18 <clokep> flo: I was wondering that too.
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12:07:32 <flo> clokep: I almost said "ah, but then it wouldn't work on Mac"
12:07:41 <flo> but that code isn't useful on mac anyway
12:08:01 <flo> minimizing the blist window there doesn't make sense, it's easier to just close it and reopen it later if needed
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12:31:21 <flo> Mic: is this a mozilla bug?
12:31:30 <flo> (that the button of the add-on manager isn't focusable)
12:31:42 <Mic> I think so, I'm going to file it with us first and check for a mozilla bug later
12:31:58 <Mic> Just to have it written down somewhere.
12:34:09 <instantbot> New Instantbird (UI) bug 1873 filed by benediktp@ymail.com.
12:34:11 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1873 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Tools menu of add-on manager not keyboard accessible.
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12:36:07 <aleth> Mic, flo: FF certainly seems to have the same bug
12:36:35 <flo> aleth: but File -> Open in Firefox will work for an xpi file
12:37:09 <flo> and the other items of that menu don't seem very useful
12:45:51 <Mic> bye
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13:15:12 <instantbot> clokep@gmail.com denied review for attachment 2221 on bug 1680.
13:15:14 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1680 enh, --, ---, aleth, ASSI, Enable "minimize on startup"
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13:17:17 <aleth> clokep_work: I agree with that, apart from the pref name. It's part of the IB code, not mintrayr (eg should we ever update it from upstream). Otoh I don't really mind changing it if you insist...
13:19:14 <flo> aleth: mintrayr is part of Instantbird now (unfortunately)
13:19:27 <flo> I think the upstream has been fully rewritten to use js ctypes
13:21:29 <aleth> flo: Do you also think the pref should live in extensions.mintrayr.* rather than messenger.* then?
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13:22:58 <flo> aleth: yes
13:23:39 <flo> or if you put it in messenger, make it do something useful on mac too
13:25:35 <clokep_work> aleth: I agree w/ flo, mintrayr is part of IB now, so...
13:25:47 <clokep_work> There really isn't an "upstream" either, as it's been rewritten into (gross) ctypes.
13:26:37 <flo> if someone wants to rewrite that code more cleanly btw, feel free ;)
13:29:43 <instantbot> aleth@instantbird.org requested review from clokep@gmail.com for attachment 2223 on bug 1680.
13:29:45 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1680 enh, --, ---, aleth, ASSI, Enable "minimize on startup"
13:32:50 * aleth suspects if anyone was going to rewrite mintrayr cleanly it would have happened already ;)
13:34:45 <aleth> or to put it another way, I was forlornly hoping there was an upstream that might do it...
13:38:58 <aleth> Oh, I didn't realise mintrayr never gets loaded for Mac. Sorry.
13:41:24 <instantbot> aleth@instantbird.org cancelled review?(clokep@gmail.com) for attachment 2223 on bug 1680.
13:41:25 <instantbot> aleth@instantbird.org requested review from clokep@gmail.com for attachment 2224 on bug 1680.
13:41:26 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1680 enh, --, ---, aleth, ASSI, Enable "minimize on startup"
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15:54:55 <clokep_work> aleth: Probably should move the pref checking underneath the definition of this._prefs?
16:00:31 <aleth> clokep_work: If you prefer. I thought it an independent bit of code which logically makes sense to put first
16:00:46 <aleth> There isn't really any duplication.
16:07:51 <aleth> It would make sense either way I guess...
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20:43:02 <clokep_work> aleth: Please change it.
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