#instantbird log on 01 23 2013

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00:45:12 <clokep> Mic: That's an excellent idea! :)
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02:34:26 <clokep> flo: Have you seen https://github.com/sipgate/sipgateffx (via #maildev)
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03:35:30 * clokep thinks that https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=628312 is blocking his oscar work right now. :-/
03:35:36 <instant-buildbot> build #755 of linux-nightly-default is complete: Success [build successful]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/linux-nightly-default/builds/755
03:43:21 <clokep> But on the bright side I rewrote a bunch of code so it can handle multiple connections now. :)
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04:28:47 <instant-buildbot> build #753 of macosx-nightly-default is complete: Success [build successful]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/macosx-nightly-default/builds/753
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10:41:54 * Mic just found a link to areweslimyyet.com in a comment on BMO... funny typo :D
10:42:47 <flo-retina> :)
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11:27:28 <clokep> Good morning. :)
11:30:38 <NicoHood> moin
11:31:47 <NicoHood> öhm. whats about skype in thunderbird? is that possible? i heard that skype does not want to have 3rd party chat programs
11:34:47 <clokep> It's possible using SkypeKit or a running Skype instance, I'm not sure how good the integration will be.
11:46:25 <clokep> (Feel free to ask more question if that's nonsense. :))
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12:55:10 <clokep_work> flo-retina: So if I'm really getting a domain mismatch (like I think) on a cert from AIM...is there anyway around that (or should I just try to add an exception for that cert)? Is there an easier way to disable that for now?
13:14:24 <flo-retina> clokep_work: what's the domain you expect and the one in the cert?
13:14:50 <clokep_work> I'm returned an IP address to connect to, the one on the cert is bos.oscar.aol.com (I think).
13:15:00 <clokep_work> (which doesn't exist as far as I can tell)
13:15:14 <flo-retina> :-/
13:15:58 <clokep_work> Yeah...the libpurple code has some weird comment saying "Oh hey we need to check stuff against this host name returned to us", but I haven't checked that info yet....and can't do that even if I want to.
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17:56:58 <NicoHood> morgen
17:57:07 <NicoHood> will ich erst fahren wenns geht
17:57:26 <NicoHood> damit ich im notfall noch was packen kann wenn das heut abend nix mehr wird.
17:57:36 <NicoHood> aber lass das morgen nochmal sehen
17:57:44 <flo-retina> so |git checkout foo| is the equivalent of |hg revert foo|, but |git checkout bar| is also the equivalent of |hg up -C bar| So what happens if I have both a branch and a local folder named "foo"?
17:57:59 <NicoHood> dafuw
17:58:02 <NicoHood> sry
17:58:06 <NicoHood> wrong chat :D:D:D
17:58:24 <NicoHood> i wonder why i have to double klick to start a icq chat. arrrrg
17:58:38 <NicoHood> can you fix that? at least when you post sth to a user
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18:00:50 <Mook_as> from testing, looks like it prefers branch names
18:01:02 <Mook_as> (see `git checkout -- master` for forcing a file name)
18:01:51 <flo-retina> Mook_as: isn't that behavior still a strange UI?
18:02:03 <Mook_as> I'm not arguing that git's UI is... odd
18:02:14 <Mook_as> just that at least things are (usually) doable :p
18:02:38 <clokep_work> flo-retina: Then you need to use --
18:03:07 <clokep_work> Mook_as: I'd saw git's UI is downright awful, personally. :)
18:03:16 <clokep_work> And I really dislike that git checkout is how you revert, yes.
18:03:31 <clokep_work> NicoHood: I don't know what you mean about double clicking...I have a feeling it isn't a bug though, so there's nothing to "fix".
18:03:48 <NicoHood> its odd
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18:04:30 <clokep_work> NicoHood: How so, you need to explain what you expect, what is wrong, etc.
18:04:51 <clokep_work> We don't read minds. :P
18:05:25 <flo-retina> and even if we could, it wouldn't be a productive use of our time ;)
18:07:02 <NicoHood> okay
18:07:09 <NicoHood> sek...
18:12:21 <clokep_work> (It's also unclear if for some reason you want ICQ to be different than other protocols, etc.)
18:13:02 <flo-retina> or which application you are talking about
18:19:28 <NicoHood> i only use icq
18:19:29 <NicoHood> okay
18:19:37 <NicoHood> on the left side the is a list
18:20:10 <NicoHood> irc +people i am chatting in icq
18:20:23 <NicoHood> below there is a list of online contacts
18:21:01 <NicoHood> i i 1click on them and write down something in the chat they dont get the message. instead the opened chat gets it
18:21:20 <NicoHood> you have to doubleclick the to go to the "chatting" list
18:21:26 <NicoHood> *them
18:21:36 <flo-retina> that may be a focus issue
18:22:07 <flo-retina> when the user starts typing, we put the focus back to the input box automatically
18:22:31 <flo-retina> NicoHood: I think you can also do a single click and press enter
18:23:18 <NicoHood> jop
18:23:51 <NicoHood> but i want if i write them they should go up. and the message shouldnt get the opended chat before
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18:25:57 <flo-retina> NicoHood: file a bug if you think something needs to be fixed.
18:26:09 <NicoHood> :/
18:26:23 <NicoHood> my english bug writing describing skills are awefull
18:26:45 <flo-retina> NicoHood: if you don't I can guarantee you that tomorrow nobody will remember what you asked here.
18:27:04 <NicoHood> ...
18:27:28 <flo-retina> (+ it's not really the correct place to ask about things related to the Thunderbird user interface)
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18:32:02 <clokep_work> NicoHood: A good way to file a bug (by the way) is a numbered list of short sentences for someone to follow to get the behavior you see, followed by a list of short sentences about what you expected to do/happen/see.
18:32:16 <clokep_work> But flo-retina is right, TB UI issues sohuld be discussed in #thunderbird or #maildev.
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18:58:53 <aleth> Mic: your unread count hider would make a nice add-on ;) (maybe adding "hide counter" to the context menu of a conv on hold)
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19:24:09 <flo-retina> FYI, I haven't been reading instantbot's logs everyday during the last few days, and I'm not completely sure if I'll start doing it again or not, so if something discussed here needs my attention, please ping me about it when I'm online, or email me :)
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20:31:31 <clokep_work> flo-retina: I left you a couple messages last night / early this morning.
20:32:51 <flo-retina> hm, maybe I should write a script that everyday parses the log to see if I was pinged when I was offline
20:33:03 <flo-retina> well, or we should just fetch previous messages from the log when reconnecting
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21:11:22 <flo-retina> clokep_work: so you have new arguments to push https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=628312 forward it seems? :)
21:16:16 <clokep_work> flo-retina: I do, should I mark it as blocking the OSCAR bug? :P
21:16:38 <flo-retina> you can
21:16:58 <flo-retina> but it seems the r- there was real, so I'm afraid someone would have to do some real work to get it to move forward :-/
21:20:29 <clokep_work> Right, I'll do it anyway though. At least make it email some people.
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21:21:04 * clokep_work is kind of at a standstill on that work and doesn't know what to do next though. :(
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21:35:42 <Mic> Good evening
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22:24:37 <clokep> flo-retina: So I found a dirty dirty way around that SSL issue. ;)
22:24:52 <clokep> Don't connect w/ SSL!
22:24:57 <EionRobb> lol
22:25:09 <clokep> It'll let me develop at least...
22:25:59 <aleth> So AOL uses an incorrect cert for oscar?
22:26:32 <clokep> aleth: Yes, you hit the login server, you do a dance, it returns a "BOS" server ("basic operation server" or something)
22:26:52 <clokep> And that's just an IP address, but it seems the cert is at bos.oscar.aol.com, (which doesn't even resolve)
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22:27:05 <aleth> Sounds great...
22:27:26 <clokep> Mic: I think Twitter has a "client library" on GitHub, that might have some code we can use. I think it's apache, last time I checked.
22:30:34 <clokep> aleth might have info on that library too, I think he looked at it at one point :)
22:31:00 <aleth> Did I miss a question?
22:31:16 <clokep> aleth: Do you follow all bugs?
22:31:53 <aleth> No, not automatically
22:32:14 <aleth> Ah, I did get an email for that one though :P
22:34:14 <aleth> Mic: the link to that library (if its the same one) would be in that bug about the character count for URLs
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22:44:43 <flo-retina> Good night
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23:56:59 <DGMurdockIII> you finaly fix the aol bug?
23:57:05 <DGMurdockIII> connecting