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00:05:45 <clokep> Mic: I think that looks better for Windows, yes. 00:06:04 <clokep> flo: Ah, good luck. :) 00:06:10 <clokep> (Don't forget to shower someplace...) 00:07:15 <flo> (of course... If I don't find a nearer place, I'll probably commute between here and my parents' once every other day) 00:08:05 * clokep wonders what Mic had wanted to ask him about regexps to friends. ;) 00:08:23 <clokep> flo: So if I prepare a patch to update to Moz17...that might be reasonable? 00:09:05 <flo> clokep: I need to more lots of things around Saturday 00:09:28 <Mic> When you're tempted to use the regexps, is that to correct something that they said or something that you said yourself? 00:09:30 <flo> clokep: but setting up the mac mini at my parents' Sunday may be possible 00:09:39 <clokep> flo: Well we can always let it bitrot. :-D 00:10:03 <flo> clokep: so I think the soonest an update to moz17 patch can land is for Monday's nightly 00:10:04 <clokep> Mic: Sometimes it is to correct what they said, depending on how much of a dick I'm being, other times what I've said. 00:10:20 <clokep> Mic: Sometimes it is to quickly give "patterns" to match for an answer. 00:10:41 <clokep> (E.g. They ask who I'm hanging out with, I respond B?ryan to mean Bryan or Ryan.) 00:10:55 <clokep> flo: OK! Maybe I'll be able to get it done. 00:12:08 <flo> clokep: do you have to specify that it's a case insensitive match? :-P 00:13:40 <clokep> flo: I would probably have written it all lowercase (all lowercase automatically matches uppercase...at least if the way people type to me is any instance). 00:15:42 <Mic> Interesting (and nerdy :P) 00:16:47 <clokep> For reference, most of my friends wouldn't know what a regular expression is...I don't really send it, I just /want to/. 00:22:39 <Mic> What about an add-on that converts "B?ryan" to "Bryan or Ryan" for you? ;) 00:23:15 <flo> clokep: maybe try shell globbing instead of regexp? Type "{Br,R}yan" :-P 00:23:59 * clokep goes to update Mozilla... 00:24:51 <clokep> Anyone know the current 17 release? 17.0.2? 00:25:49 <clokep> 17.0.1 apparently. 00:27:30 <-- qlum has quit (Quit: Getting the <censored> out.) 00:31:03 <Mic> Good night! 00:31:09 <-- Mic has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.4a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 00:36:27 <flo> Good night :) 00:43:27 <clokep> CIao! 00:49:20 <instant-buildbot> build #362 of linux-onCommit is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/linux-onCommit/builds/362 01:12:11 <instant-buildbot> build #703 of linux-nightly-default is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/linux-nightly-default/builds/703 01:24:02 * clokep is writing a script to update patches... 01:52:47 <-- Mook_as has quit (Quit: Mook_as) 02:04:06 <-- Optimizer has quit (Ping timeout) 02:04:19 <instant-buildbot> build #348 of win32-onCommit is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/win32-onCommit/builds/348 02:17:41 <-- mpmc has quit (Connection reset by peer) 03:08:58 --> Mook has joined #instantbird 03:32:35 <instant-buildbot> build #704 of linux-nightly-default is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/linux-nightly-default/builds/704 03:38:36 --> mconley has joined #instantbird 03:44:35 <Kaishi> hey guys 03:45:24 <Kaishi> I have a text replacement script intended for firefox that I'd like to implement in instantbird. It is intended to pull web-stored emoticons and cache them locally, nothing big. I didn't write it but I know it works well. 03:45:31 --> Optimizer has joined #instantbird 03:46:09 <clokep> Hmm...any reason you wouldn't just create an emoticon theme? 03:46:14 <Kaishi> yes 03:46:22 <Kaishi> because the emoticons change pretty frequently >_> 03:46:34 <Kaishi> this is a SomethingAwful forums thing, if you're wondering 03:47:00 <Kaishi> where users can upload and create their own emoticons as a paid service, and it impacts all other users. It keeps things interesting. 03:47:03 <clokep> Ah, I see. 03:47:13 <clokep> OK. Is there a question somewhere in here then? ;) 03:47:24 <Kaishi> http://sae.tweek.us/ <-- packages for various IM clients to do something to this effect 03:47:49 <Kaishi> most of the IM clients use a local store of the icons but the firefox and chrome variants are just JS 03:48:01 <Kaishi> so I'm wondering how I could get instantbird to load said JS, if at all 03:48:06 <Kaishi> to see if it works 03:48:28 <Kaishi> I tried just dragging the js file into the extensions list, a la chrome, but it doesn't work (XPI and JAR only) 03:48:30 <clokep> Well Instantbird has a way for extensions to modify text content before displaying it. 03:48:57 <clokep> Yes, youd' have to actually write an extension. 03:49:16 <clokep> The firefox one seems to run via Greasemonkey. 03:49:19 <Kaishi> I considered that, but I have no familiarity with it. I've modified other people's extensions to meet my needs before 03:49:25 <Kaishi> Yeah, you're right, it does 03:49:28 <Kaishi> I just realized that 03:49:47 <clokep> You could modify that script to actually run as an extension, it shouldn't be too hard to do. 03:50:07 <clokep> You would need it to check for updates when started + on a timer. Parse the page (you should be aable to take that part directly from the Fx one). 03:50:10 <Kaishi> I would love to do that. Is there a primer on doing such things? 03:50:13 <clokep> Then the text replacement part. 03:50:17 <clokep> Hmm.... 03:50:35 <clokep> There's https://wiki.instantbird.org/Instantbird:Extension 03:50:50 <clokep> I'm not sure exactly how much of that is useful and how much just points to Mozilla documents though. :) 03:51:20 <clokep> https://addons.instantbird.org/en-US/instantbird/addon/4 is an add-on that kind of implements what you'd want, but intsead of creating a link you'd create an image. 03:52:53 <Kaishi> hmmmmm 03:53:13 <Kaishi> I'll look into it! Thanks. 03:53:16 <Kaishi> I'll keep you informed. 03:54:16 <clokep> :) 03:54:20 <clokep> Please ask if you have any questions! 03:54:38 <clokep> If nothing else we can probably point you to the right locations of code, etc. 03:54:52 <clokep> Hmm...you could probably make a restartless extension, which that one isn't. 03:54:57 <clokep> But I don't have an example of that ATM. :-/ 03:55:25 <clokep> (Well something like https://bitbucket.org/clokep/irc-extras/src/809af6d5f0214946ce64f3c758c4051e19ff504e/example?at=default is an example, but fairly unrelated.) 04:12:07 <instant-buildbot> build #794 of win32-nightly-default is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/win32-nightly-default/builds/794 04:15:47 <-- mconley has quit (Quit: Leaving...) 04:28:33 <Kaishi> bah, can't sleep 04:32:04 <-- EionRobb has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 04:32:23 <Mook> will the clown will eat you? 04:35:03 <Kaishi> no 04:35:30 <Kaishi> but I'm not remotely tired. I've been trying to go to bed early so I can have the same sleep cycle as my lady but it just doesn't work sometimes. 04:35:48 <Kaishi> 11pm and she's out like a light. I'll be up until 2am 04:35:57 * Kaishi shrugs 04:56:19 <-- Optimizer has quit (Ping timeout) 05:00:13 --> Optimizer has joined #instantbird 05:05:13 <-- clokep has quit (Ping timeout) 05:06:56 <-- Kaishi has quit (Quit: Kaishi) 05:17:07 <-- Optimizer has quit (Ping timeout) 05:48:37 --> FireFly_TB has joined #instantbird 06:00:17 <-- FireFly_TB has quit (Ping timeout) 07:04:53 <instant-buildbot> build #796 of win32-nightly-default is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/win32-nightly-default/builds/796 07:15:10 --> jb has joined #instantbird 07:29:20 --> FireFly_TB has joined #instantbird 07:29:46 <-- jb has quit (Ping timeout) 07:31:07 <-- FireFly_TB has quit (Ping timeout) 07:33:18 <-- Mook has quit (Quit: Mook) 07:47:17 <instant-buildbot> build #704 of macosx-nightly-default is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/macosx-nightly-default/builds/704 08:03:27 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 08:03:27 * ChanServ sets mode +o clokep 08:04:51 --> gerard-majax has joined #instantbird 08:07:23 <-- clokep has quit (Ping timeout) 08:13:42 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 08:13:42 * ChanServ sets mode +h Mic 08:28:14 --> jb has joined #instantbird 08:36:02 --> qlum has joined #instantbird 08:36:05 <-- qlum has quit (Quit: qlum) 08:37:13 <Mic> clokep, kaishi: what about creating an emoticon theme with an "updater" added to it, which would store new emotion files in the extension folder (em:unpack=true!) and create a matching theme.js file too? 08:44:55 <Mic> It would only work after restarts, I suppose. And you might need to purge the cache first (I think I saw a way to do that in some Mozilla file (in a test iirc)?) 09:08:16 --> qlum has joined #instantbird 09:14:27 <-- Mic has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.4a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 09:26:37 <-- flo-retina has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.4a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 09:28:10 <-- flo has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.4a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 09:47:56 --> flo-retina has joined #instantbird 09:47:57 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo-retina flo-retina 10:13:41 --> jb1 has joined #instantbird 10:14:03 <-- jb has quit (Ping timeout) 11:17:11 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 11:17:11 * ChanServ sets mode +o clokep 11:24:06 <clokep> Mic: It could work, but wouldn't that involve rewriting the emoticon file in the extension? That sounds messy. 11:25:30 * clokep grumbles. 11:25:38 <clokep> My build failed in purpleTimer...I think with he new changes wnayes made. 11:27:24 <clokep> (o_O) I wonder how this code ever compiled... 11:28:17 <flo-retina> clokep: that file is just a JSON file, it should be trivial to write from an add-on 11:28:34 <flo-retina> clokep: pastebin? 11:28:35 <clokep> flo-retina: It jsut seems hacky. 11:28:46 <flo-retina> clokep: I don't remember wnayes touching purpleTimer :-S 11:28:50 <clokep> flo-retina: I got it, it was a bad merge. 11:28:58 <clokep> I think I touched it, in fact. :-D 11:29:02 <flo-retina> clokep: well, Mic's suggestion is actually a very easy way to bypass the security restrictions ;) 11:29:19 <flo-retina> clokep: loading remote images from a conversation would be (purposefully) difficult 11:30:40 <clokep> flo-retina: Right. :-/ 11:36:52 <instantbot> clokep@gmail.com requested review from florian@instantbird .org for attachment 2156 on bug 1606. 11:36:55 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1606 nor, --, ---, clokep, ASSI, Update to Mozilla 17 11:37:50 <clokep> I should mention that was only tested on Windows so far. 11:38:40 * clokep thinks flo-retina has some reason to update the builders now. :) 11:38:44 <-- clokep has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.4a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 11:38:46 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 11:38:46 * ChanServ sets mode +o clokep 11:43:01 * flo-retina smiles at the removal of disable-sps-on-Mac-because-PPC-is-not-supported.patch 11:46:43 <clokep> I greatly enjoyed hg rming each of those files. :-D 11:46:54 <clokep> Especially because those were the ones that usually had conflicts when updating. 11:47:51 <flo-retina> :) 11:47:58 <flo-retina> no longer patching the JS engine is nice ;) 11:54:22 <clokep> :-D Plus Moz 17 gives us...not really anything exciting. :( 11:54:31 * clokep "Probably more warnings." 11:54:39 * clokep sighs. 11:54:43 <clokep> I meant to include a "mumbles" in there. 12:01:45 <-- clokep has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.4a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 12:12:02 <flo-retina> "not really anything exciting", but removing the disable-sps-on-Mac-because-PPC-is-not-supported.patch means we will now be able to use the gecko profiler ;) 12:30:56 <-- deltafalcon has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.3 -- http://www.instantbird.com) 12:35:18 --> meh has joined #instantbird 12:48:06 --> sabret00the has joined #instantbird 12:48:16 --> sabret00the_ has joined #instantbird 12:48:32 --> clokep_work has joined #instantbird 12:48:32 * ChanServ sets mode +o clokep_work 12:48:36 <-- sabret00the_ has quit (Connection reset by peer) 12:50:41 <-- sabret00the has left #instantbird (Leaving) 12:51:48 <clokep_work> flo-retina: We had a bug on that already. ;) 12:52:24 <clokep_work> There's a totally off topic email to the dev-chat list, but it is a /real/ email. :-S 12:58:45 <flo-retina> what's the correct mailing list for this one? 12:59:19 <flo-retina> so what are you going to do about ppc support? :) 13:00:34 --> rosonline has joined #instantbird 13:00:34 <clokep_work> flo-retina: probably m.d.a.thunderbird. 13:00:43 <flo-retina> we could also change bug 1588 into a "prevent OS X 10.5 from updating to Instantbird 1.4" 13:00:46 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1588 maj, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Drop PPC support 13:00:51 <clokep_work> I'm going to attach at patch to that other bug and remove PPC support. :P 13:00:55 <clokep_work> Ah, we could do that too. 13:00:59 <flo-retina> ok :) 13:01:03 <flo-retina> do as you prefer 13:01:11 <flo-retina> we need the new mac builder soon anyway 13:01:50 <clokep_work> :) 13:01:53 <flo-retina> I'll try to set it up tonight or tomorrow morning (before moving, while I can download xcode in a few minutes with the cable connection) and put it online Sunday 13:02:04 <clokep_work> rosonline: I don't remember if we asked you this before, but is there any reason you use Mibbit and not Instantbird for IRC? 13:02:21 <flo-retina> (by "set it up" I mean "install whatever's required to build Instantbird") 13:02:47 <clokep_work> Cool! :) 13:02:47 <flo-retina> clokep_work: I think he uses Mibbit in his school and Instantbird at home 13:03:10 <rosonline> clokep_work: Yes! we're asked it before. 13:03:42 <rosonline> clokep_work, flo-retina: Yes. I'm working now 13:04:08 <rosonline> and I use Mibbit for look at the IRC channel 13:05:01 <rosonline> :D 13:19:09 <clokep_work> OK. :) 13:31:00 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 13:31:00 * ChanServ sets mode +h aleth 13:34:22 <clokep_work> flo-retina: Is glibconfig.h a file that we created? I was always confused by that. 13:34:30 <clokep_work> Oh haha. 13:34:36 <clokep_work> I should have finished reading your comment. :) 13:53:59 <flo-retina> so it seems I can now guess your questions before you even ask them? :) 13:56:45 <clokep_work> Apparently. 14:00:09 <clokep_work> Seems like all those extra changes are real easy though. 14:02:04 <flo-retina> yes :) 14:02:19 <clokep_work> And we're just assuming Linux will work, right? ;) 14:02:33 <flo-retina> what do you mean? 14:04:05 <flo-retina> usually when updating Mozilla I check that things build and work on Mac, and then push to nightlies (except if I have a specific reason to believe things will be broken on Windows/Linux, in which case I will test there too before pushing). 14:04:26 <flo-retina> if buildbot refuses to build, or if nightly testers (ie us the next day) complain, we fix it 14:05:21 <aleth> yay, clokep_work is crafting the enable-profiler patch :) 14:05:36 * aleth wonders which mozilla version the chrome debugger is in 14:06:38 * flo-retina wonders what it would take to have silent updates 14:07:03 <aleth> right, that was also a while ago now! 14:08:04 <aleth> (in FF) 14:11:34 <flo-retina> I didn't know that fourth parameter to addEventListener existed: http://mxr.mozilla.org/comm-central/source/mozilla/dom/interfaces/events/nsIDOMEventTarget.idl#68 14:11:45 * flo-retina has learned something today 14:47:28 <clokep_work> aleth: What am I doing? 14:47:31 <-- jb1 has quit (Quit: jb1) 14:47:40 <clokep_work> flo-retina: I think it's a bit, at least looking at the TB bug. :-/ 14:47:44 <clokep_work> I filed an IB bug for it 14:48:25 --> jb has joined #instantbird 14:48:40 <-- jb has quit (Input/output error) 14:50:28 <flo-retina> clokep_work: you filed bug 1780 14:50:31 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1780 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Provide a Windows service to update applications without asking Administrator password 14:50:43 <flo-retina> I don't think it will really affect me ;) 14:51:41 <aleth> clokep_work: we should be able to get the profiler to work post-moz17 14:53:11 --> mconley has joined #instantbird 14:53:23 <flo-retina> maybe we just need |pref("app.update.staging.enabled", true);| 14:54:04 <clokep_work> flo-retina: Is there silent updates for Mac/Linux? 14:54:09 <clokep_work> flo-retina: I hope so! :) 14:54:25 <flo-retina> clokep_work: of course! :) 14:54:39 <clokep_work> I didn't know that. 14:54:47 <flo-retina> bug 1780 is not "silent update", it's "update even if the user isn't administrator on his machine" 14:54:50 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1780 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Provide a Windows service to update applications without asking Administrator password 14:54:59 <clokep_work> Hmm...I meant for it to be silent updates. :-/ 14:55:28 <aleth> The moz17 string.startsWith/endsWith would have been used a lot in the IRC code ;) 14:55:36 <flo-retina> silent update is cross platform (it just applies the update in a folder next to the current install folder, and the next restart swaps the files); it gets rid of the update progress dialog 14:55:55 <flo-retina> aleth: s/would have been/will be/ ;) 14:56:01 <flo-retina> aleth: happy bug filing ;) 14:57:37 <flo-retina> hmm, apparently there's another app.update.silent pref to ignore all the update dialogs :-S 14:58:00 <flo-retina> ok, so what *I* am really interested in is called "background updates" 14:59:11 <clokep_work> flo-retina: We might also need to update the about dialog to take into account some of these changes? 14:59:21 <clokep_work> aleth: Possibly, the default parameters could be used in a lot of our code too. 14:59:27 <clokep_work> I'm using it in the oscar code, it's really nice. :) 14:59:46 <flo-retina> background updates seem to be enabled since gecko 16 15:00:03 <flo-retina> (and they were enabled but kinda broken in 15 apparently, with a fix in 15.0.1) 15:00:13 <aleth> clokep_work: Yes :) that was moz16 I think 15:00:25 <flo-retina> clokep_work: I think that's only needed if we want to get rid of the "check for updates" dialog and menu item (we do!) 15:00:32 <flo-retina> (but there's no emergency for that) 15:01:47 <flo-retina> so I guess if we have current nightlies, we can just create app.update.staging.enabled in our profiles with about:config and see the result 15:02:05 <clokep_work> aleth: Yes, I didn't say it was Moz17, just improvements that can be made. 15:02:08 <aleth> Great, we should just try it 15:03:04 * aleth can't find a TB profiler bug on BMO 15:03:14 <aleth> Maybe all that's needed is to port the add-on? 15:04:21 <flo-retina> "port"? 15:04:23 <aleth> ah, bug 740946 15:04:34 <-- rosonline has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 15:04:35 <flo-retina> can't we just send them a pull request to include whatever's needed for Instantbird? ;) 15:04:51 <aleth> :) 15:05:09 <clokep_work> Only if you can wrap your head around the confusing concept of pull requests. :( 15:05:49 <aleth> It's easy, just imagine it's 5 years ago and you are using svn :P 15:08:04 <clokep_work> Nah, that just forces you to pull and merge before committing. 15:08:26 <aleth> flo-retina: The bmo bug also has "need to include profiler.xpt in our package-manifest.in", but that looks fairly trivial 15:08:53 <aleth> clokep_work: Right. Pull requests are actually worse :-/ 15:09:55 <flo-retina> clokep_work: well, I'm already sending pull requests for the work I do on the webrtc demo, so... 15:10:32 <aleth> clokep_work: want to add the equivalent of this to your moz17 patch? https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=632819 15:16:26 <clokep_work> aleth: Let's file a new bug about that. 15:40:25 --> jb has joined #instantbird 15:44:26 <clokep_work> flo-retina: So who originally registered the mailing list then? We should "disable" it. 15:51:29 <flo-retina> Julien 15:53:11 --> Optimizer has joined #instantbird 16:02:33 --> Mnyromyr has joined #instantbird 16:09:02 <-- Optimizer has quit (Ping timeout) 16:12:22 --> Optimizer has joined #instantbird 16:13:44 <-- jb has quit (Ping timeout) 16:13:56 --> jb has joined #instantbird 16:15:23 --> jb1 has joined #instantbird 16:15:44 <-- jb has quit (Ping timeout) 16:47:41 <-- gerard-majax has quit (Ping timeout) 16:49:38 <-- jb1 has quit (Ping timeout) 16:56:22 --> jb has joined #instantbird 16:57:06 --> jb1 has joined #instantbird 16:58:07 <-- jb has quit (Ping timeout) 16:58:40 --> jb has joined #instantbird 16:58:44 <-- jb1 has quit (Ping timeout) 16:59:35 --> jb1 has joined #instantbird 17:00:21 <-- jb has quit (Ping timeout) 17:00:48 --> jb has joined #instantbird 17:00:59 --> jb2 has joined #instantbird 17:00:59 <-- jb has quit (Connection reset by peer) 17:01:26 <-- jb1 has quit (Ping timeout) 17:06:32 <-- Optimizer has quit (Ping timeout) 17:14:24 --> Optimizer has joined #instantbird 17:33:28 --> mpmc has joined #instantbird 17:46:11 --> Mook_as has joined #instantbird 18:21:48 <instantbot> New Instantbird (UI) bug 1850 filed by aleth@instantbird.org. 18:21:49 <instantbot> aleth@instantbird.org requested review from florian@instantbird .org for attachment 2157 on bug 1850. 18:21:50 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1850 tri, --, ---, nobody, ASSI, Fix indentation of conversation.xml 18:22:11 * aleth thought he was going to patch something and got annoyed by indentation instead :-/ 18:25:41 <instantbot> aleth@instantbird.org cancelled review?(florian@instantbird .org) for attachment 2157 on bug 1850. 18:25:43 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1850 tri, --, ---, nobody, ASSI, Fix indentation of conversation.xml 18:25:48 <aleth> Didn't mean to attach that yet 18:26:18 * flo-retina will wait for aleth's third version of the attachment before looking ;) 18:28:53 --> unghost has joined #instantbird 18:33:10 * clokep_work hasn't learned to do that yet. :( 18:33:24 <clokep_work> Also I find space changing patches totally unreadable. :-D 18:43:35 --> sabret00the has joined #instantbird 18:45:23 <-- sabret00the has quit (Ping timeout) 18:46:48 --> sabret00the has joined #instantbird 18:51:42 <aleth> Yup, the diff is completely illegible. 18:55:09 <aleth> Unless you add -b, in which case it's pretty short :P 18:56:14 <flo-retina> aleth: isn't it -w to ignore whitespace? 18:56:29 <aleth> flo-retina: I think -w is even more aggressive? 18:56:42 <aleth> Can't remember the exact difference though 19:04:51 --> darren has joined #instantbird 19:05:28 <darren> i am pretty unsavvy when it comes to bug reports or even describing a bug. how would i go about complaining about something going wrong with instant bird 19:06:26 <-- flo-retina has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.4a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 19:06:47 <Mook_as> darren: showing up here is a good start? :) 19:07:10 <darren> so should i complain to you then? ;) 19:11:23 <Mook_as> well, complaining to me _personally_ likely won't get you results, since I just hang around and don't actually code... :p 19:16:07 <darren> oh wait. 19:16:28 <darren> i need to make a bugzilla account at instantbird? it wont use my mozilla bugzilla account? 19:19:17 <darren> hmm i guess that was dumb of me to assume that my account would cross over. 19:19:27 <darren> i didnt realize bugzilla was drop in software. 19:22:45 --> adev has joined #instantbird 19:23:35 <clokep_work> darren: Yes, please file a bug. :) 19:23:44 <clokep_work> But you can ask me or aleth or flo (people with stars next to their name, usually). 19:27:41 --> igorko has joined #instantbird 19:36:17 <-- adev has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.4a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 19:36:28 --> adev has joined #instantbird 19:37:29 <-- adev has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.4a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 19:37:36 --> adev has 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22:43:23 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1588 maj, --, ---, clokep, ASSI, Drop PPC support 22:48:41 <flo> now it crashes in sqlite3MallocSize :( 22:50:06 <-- Optimizer has quit (Ping timeout) 22:54:08 --> Optimizer has joined #instantbird 23:03:13 <-- aleth has quit (Input/output error) 23:03:41 --> FireFly_TB has joined #instantbird 23:11:18 <-- Optimizer has quit (Ping timeout) 23:14:49 --> Optimizer has joined #instantbird 23:16:39 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 23:16:39 * ChanServ sets mode +h Mic 23:17:56 <-- Mic has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.4a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 23:17:59 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 23:17:59 * ChanServ sets mode +h Mic 23:19:28 <flo> clokep: so how are these patches supposed to land? 23:19:34 * Mic tried the app.update pref and I think it worked? It was a partial update so I'm not completely sure if it was too fast either way? 23:19:38 <clokep> flo: drop PPC first. 23:19:47 <flo> shouldn't all the removal of ppc fixes go with bug 1588 rather than the other one? 23:19:50 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1588 maj, --, ---, clokep, ASSI, Drop PPC support 23:19:59 <clokep> flo: I can split it that way, yes. 23:20:28 <-- Mic has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.4a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 23:20:28 <flo> I'm almost sure an universal i386 / x86_64 build isn't possible unless we remove some of the ppc fixes 23:23:02 * clokep is coming up w/ a new one. 23:23:57 --> flo-retina has joined #instantbird 23:23:57 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo-retina flo-retina 23:25:39 <instantbot> clokep@gmail.com cancelled review?(florian@instantbird .org) for attachment 2156 on bug 1606. 23:25:40 <instantbot> clokep@gmail.com requested review from florian@instantbird .org for attachment 2160 on bug 1606. 23:25:41 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1606 nor, --, ---, clokep, ASSI, Update to Mozilla 17 23:25:59 <instantbot> clokep@gmail.com cancelled review?(florian@instantbird .org) for attachment 2159 on bug 1588. 23:26:00 <instantbot> clokep@gmail.com requested review from florian@instantbird .org for attachment 2161 on bug 1588. 23:26:01 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1588 maj, --, ---, clokep, ASSI, Drop PPC support 23:27:09 <-- flo-retina has quit (Connection reset by peer) 23:27:09 --> flo-retina has joined #instantbird 23:27:09 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo-retina flo-retina 23:28:54 <flo-retina> ok, let's see what that mac mini has to say :) 23:30:20 <clokep> :) 23:30:27 <clokep> Poor Mac Mini, doesn't know what it is getting into... 23:33:10 <flo-retina> there's a giant translation mistake on the welcome screen 23:33:35 <clokep> :-/ 23:33:37 <flo-retina> it says "to use English for the main language, press the return key" 23:33:59 <flo-retina> it's been translated in French by "Pour utiliser le français comme langue principale, appuyer sur la touche retour" 23:34:15 <flo-retina> 'retour' means 'back'... 23:36:34 <clokep> You can switch back to English with a key press? :-S 23:37:00 <flo-retina> The first thing it asks on the first startup is which language you want to have the OS X UI in 23:37:24 <clokep> Ohhh, I gotcha. 23:37:30 <clokep> You mean Mac OS X, not Instantbird! 23:37:32 <clokep> Duh. 23:37:52 <flo-retina> the mini doesn't come with Instantbird from the factory ;) 23:38:50 <clokep> Right. :) 23:44:14 <flo-retina> https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Developer_Guide/Build_Instructions/Mac_OS_X_Prerequisites 23:44:27 <flo-retina> whoever has written the "one line bootstrap" part hasn't used a brand new mac :-/ 23:45:05 * clokep wonders if we'll use clang now? 23:45:09 <clokep> Or have we been using that? 23:45:30 <flo-retina> we use clang on OS X 10.8, yes 23:48:24 * flo-retina is slowly downloading xcode 23:52:08 <flo-retina> clokep: so how should I review that drop pcc patch? 23:52:08 <flo-retina> do you want me to try building an universal build on the retina mac with that patch applied? 23:54:11 <clokep> flo-retina: I think that's a good way to try it yes. 23:54:22 <clokep> Honestly if there are more changes, you're in a better place to fix it then I am. :-/ 23:54:55 <flo-retina> that will take a while, even on a fast machine