#instantbird log on 11 22 2012

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00:01:52 <instantbot> florian@instantbird.org cancelled review?(florian@instantbird .org) for attachment 2118 on bug 1815.
00:01:57 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1815 nor, --, ---, aleth, ASSI, Tab completion for nicks that start with "funny" characters
00:04:14 <instantbot> florian@instantbird.org granted feedback for attachment 2119 on bug 1815.
00:04:17 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1815 nor, --, ---, aleth, ASSI, Tab completion for nicks that start with "funny" characters
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00:18:09 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/65e0d49f3692 - Patrick Cloke - Bug 1809 - Minor cleanup of IRC usernames, r=aleth.
00:18:11 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/b13ce903a551 - aleth - Bug 1766 - Automatically authenticate when changing the nick to the account nickname, r=clokep.
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00:39:40 <instantbot> clokep@gmail.com set the Resolution field on bug 1809 to FIXED.
00:39:43 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1809 tri, --, 1.4, clokep, RESO FIXED, Minor cleanup of IRC usernames
00:40:11 <instantbot> clokep@gmail.com set the Resolution field on bug 1766 to FIXED.
00:40:13 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1766 nor, --, 1.4, aleth, RESO FIXED, Automatically authenticate when changing the nick to the account nickname
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00:48:35 <instant-buildbot> build #355 of linux-onCommit is complete: Success [build successful]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/linux-onCommit/builds/355
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03:00:00 <instant-buildbot> build #325 of macosx-onCommit is complete: Success [build successful]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/macosx-onCommit/builds/325
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03:34:49 <instant-buildbot> build #689 of linux-nightly-default is complete: Success [build successful]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/linux-nightly-default/builds/689
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05:15:01 <instant-buildbot> build #780 of win32-nightly-default is complete: Success [build successful]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/win32-nightly-default/builds/780
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07:45:04 <instant-buildbot> build #689 of macosx-nightly-default is complete: Success [build successful]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/macosx-nightly-default/builds/689
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12:44:50 <flo-retina> instantbot: bug 1816
12:44:54 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1816 maj, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, No smilies in Instantbird 1.3
12:48:14 <Mic> :(
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13:14:16 <flo-retina> https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Social_API/Service_worker_API_reference great documentation ;)
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13:19:41 <aleth> complete :D
13:21:31 <aleth> I did mention at one point it would be good to bump all the smiley themes :-/ Is there no relatively easy way to mass-bump categories?
13:22:34 <flo-retina> aleth: define "relatively easy" ;)
13:22:48 <aleth> easier than going through them one by one 
13:27:12 <flo-retina> then yes
13:27:29 <flo-retina> you can to a long MySQL query that will bump them all at once
13:27:44 <aleth> (Of course I know the backend to AIO must be horrible ;) )
13:28:52 <instantbot> aleth@instantbird.org cancelled review?(florian@instantbird .org) for attachment 2119 on bug 1815.
13:28:54 <instantbot> aleth@instantbird.org requested review from florian@instantbird .org for attachment 2121 on bug 1815.
13:28:56 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1815 nor, --, ---, aleth, ASSI, Tab completion for nicks that start with "funny" characters
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14:01:08 <instantbot> aleth@instantbird.org cancelled review?(aleth@instantbird.o rg) for attachment 2115 on bug 1811.
14:01:11 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1811 min, --, ---, clokep, ASSI, IRC password does not work with ZNC server password auth
14:09:35 <instantbot> aleth@instantbird.org denied review for attachment 2120 on bug 1811.
14:09:40 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1811 min, --, ---, clokep, ASSI, IRC password does not work with ZNC server password auth
14:12:28 <instantbot> New Core - IRC bug 1817 filed by aleth@instantbird.org.
14:12:30 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1817 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Don't disconnect when failing to parse a message
14:15:10 <instantbot> New Core - IRC bug 1818 filed by aleth@instantbird.org.
14:15:13 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1818 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, "Couldn't parse message" due to trailing spaces
14:19:18 <aleth> qlum: You may want to cc yourself to the last two bugs ;)
14:20:27 <qlum> done
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15:04:34 <clokep> aleth: Thanks for filing those.
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15:09:44 <aleth> clokep: btw if you want to leave that if clause the way it is because you are expectihng more NOTICE AUTH cases in the future, feel free ;)
15:13:45 * clokep guesses that would make more sense if he read his email...
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15:18:54 <flo-retina> clokep: aleth just means he agrees with one of my nits
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15:31:56 <clokep> aleth: http://pastebin.instantbird.com/104460 r?
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15:36:15 <aleth> clokep: r+
15:37:29 <instantbot> clokep@gmail.com requested review from aleth@instantbird.o rg for attachment 2122 on bug 1811.
15:37:31 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1811 min, --, ---, clokep, ASSI, IRC password does not work with ZNC server password auth
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15:41:21 <instantbot> aleth@instantbird.org granted review for attachment 2122 on bug 1811.
15:41:24 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1811 min, --, ---, clokep, ASSI, IRC password does not work with ZNC server password auth
15:41:24 <aleth> clokep: You were able to test it, right?
15:41:37 <clokep> aleth: Yes.
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15:47:04 <flo-retina> :)
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17:42:33 <instantbot> clokep@gmail.com requested review from aleth@instantbird.o rg for attachment 2123 on bug 1818.
17:42:35 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1818 nor, --, ---, clokep, ASSI, "Couldn't parse message" due to trailing spaces
17:50:58 <instantbot> aleth@instantbird.org granted review for attachment 2123 on bug 1818.
17:51:02 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1818 nor, --, ---, clokep, ASSI, "Couldn't parse message" due to trailing spaces
18:09:45 * clokep dislikes that emoticon "bug".
18:09:54 <clokep> (And when users make assumptions about how things are implemented. :()
18:10:05 <flo-retina> clokep: If you install an emoticon theme, select it, then disable the theme from the add-on manager and restart Instantbird, are we using "default" or "none" as the emoticon theme?
18:10:29 <clokep> flo-retina: That I don't know. (And didn't know how to ask that in a way that the user would understand WTF I'm talking about.)
18:10:38 <flo-retina> clokep: (and when users don't want to discard these wrong assumptions once they have been told how things are ;))
18:10:56 <flo-retina> clokep: I wonder if that may be part of what he's complaining about
18:11:07 <clokep> flo-retina: That's possible.
18:11:28 <flo-retina> for message themes we fallback to bubbles automatically because having a way to show messages is critical, but I'm not sure we do for emoticons (they don't matter that much)
18:12:55 <flo-retina> http://lxr.instantbird.org/instantbird/source/chat/modules/imSmileys.jsm#62
18:13:08 <flo-retina> when a theme we are trying to load doesn't exist, we seem to just fallback to an empty theme
18:17:48 <clokep> Interesting.
18:17:59 <clokep> I'm pretty sure when I said "Default" he assumed that was what should be used.
18:18:12 * clokep has four IRC bugs ready for check-in.
18:18:16 <clokep> That's a lot in on enight...
18:18:28 <flo-retina> clokep: http://pastebin.instantbird.com/104521 I think that's all we need to fallback to "default" when the current theme can't be loaded
18:18:44 <flo-retina> (completely untested
18:18:46 <flo-retina> )
18:19:09 <clokep> flo-retina: Why line 27?
18:19:23 <clokep> Should getTheme() already do that ||?
18:19:23 <flo-retina> why not?
18:20:06 <flo-retina> we would need to add a boolean to disable that behavior then
18:20:19 <clokep> Ah, OK.
18:20:21 <flo-retina> as the preference window needs to know that the current them is unusable
18:20:34 <flo-retina> *theme
18:20:48 <flo-retina> (the pref window calls getSmileyList)
18:20:51 * clokep needs to go eat turkey. ;)
18:21:11 <flo-retina> well, it could also check that theme.name == aThemeName
18:22:23 <flo-retina> but I'm a bit annoyed that calling getTheme("default") from the catch block of getTheme may cause infinite recursivity if for some reason we throw while getting the default theme
18:22:35 <flo-retina> happy turkey eating :)
18:25:18 * clokep actually doesn't like turkey all that much. :-[
18:27:11 <flo-retina> there are 21 smiley packs on AIO
18:27:22 <flo-retina> how difficult would it be to bump there compatibility?
18:28:10 <flo-retina> only 17 if we ignore those that are in the sandbox (bumping the compatibility on AIO wouldn't help for them anyway)
18:28:35 <clokep> flo-retina: It would probably take 15 - 20 minutes.
18:28:37 <clokep> I can do it tonight.
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18:29:14 <flo-retina> maybe even less
18:31:14 <flo-retina> clokep: we need to go to https://addons.instantbird.org/en-US/developers/versions/<add-on id>/ and then there's 3 clicks to do.
18:31:28 <clokep> flo-retina: Make a Macro? ;)
18:32:32 <flo-retina> the list of smiley packs is https://addons.instantbird.org/en-US/instantbird/browse/type:1/cat:5?show=20&sort=newest minus the "SmileyBar" add-on that's different
18:32:46 <flo-retina> 16 add-ons * 3 clicks
18:32:51 <flo-retina> shouldn't be 20 minutes ;)
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18:37:58 <instantbot> clokep@gmail.com requested feedback from the wind for attachment 2124 on bug 1817.
18:38:01 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1817 nor, --, ---, clokep, ASSI, Don't disconnect when failing to parse a message
18:40:51 <instantbot> clokep@gmail.com requested feedback from aleth@instantbird .org for attachment 2124 on bug 1817.
18:40:54 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1817 nor, --, ---, clokep, ASSI, Don't disconnect when failing to parse a message
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18:53:05 * clokep notes that that patch depends on the other one he just posted.
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18:53:10 <clokep> Goodnight!
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19:23:45 <instantbot> aleth@instantbird.org granted feedback for attachment 2124 on bug 1817.
19:23:53 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1817 nor, --, ---, clokep, ASSI, Don't disconnect when failing to parse a message
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20:48:04 <instantbot> New Core - Twitter bug 1819 filed by mte90net@gmail.com.
20:48:08 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1819 enh, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, [Wish] Twitter report for Mention, Reply, Favorite
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20:49:10 <Mte90> https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1819
20:49:27 <Mte90> the method for the suggestion/wish it's correct?
20:52:53 <flo> Mte90: filing a bug with "severity: enhancement" is the correct method, yes
20:53:31 <flo> Mte90: I don't understand what you want when reading the bug description though :-/
20:54:02 <Mte90> uhm
20:54:03 <Mte90> I improve the description then
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21:00:17 <Mte90> i have added a better comment
21:04:02 <flo> uh, colors in quit messages :(
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21:11:53 <Mook_as> write an extension to filter out colors in quit messages? :D
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21:13:36 <instantbot> New Core - Twitter bug 1820 filed by mte90net@gmail.com.
21:13:39 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1820 enh, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, [Wish] Better Button for reply and Retweet
21:13:58 <Mte90> wow
21:15:00 <Mte90> i have see now that in kde menù i don't have instantbird
21:15:10 <Mte90> but i have installed 
21:15:20 <Mte90> uhm i need to open a new bug for this?
21:17:15 <flo> Mte90: that's something your linux distribution should fix, not something we can fix
21:17:21 <Mte90> ok
21:19:34 <flo> Mook_as: a css rule with !important should be enough ;)
21:20:15 <instantbot> New Core - Twitter bug 1821 filed by mte90net@gmail.com.
21:20:17 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1821 enh, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, [Wish] Window of FB Chat/Twitter etc. minimized on tray
21:24:23 <flo> Mte90: you can just press the 'Escape' key and the current conversation tab will be put on hold (it will be visible in the contacts window)
21:26:54 <Mte90> uhm i think that this window should be indipendent by the contact window
21:29:33 <instantbot> New Core - General bug 1822 filed by mte90net@gmail.com.
21:29:36 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1822 nor, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, [Wish] Notification system native
21:30:09 <aleth> Mte90: If you want a KDE button you just have to make a .desktop file for instantbird in .local/share/applications
21:31:51 <Mte90> I was going to use the menu editor for KDE
21:31:53 <Mte90> XD
21:32:08 <flo> aleth: should we mention that in the faq, or explain it on the wiki, with an example .desktop file?
21:32:57 <flo> aleth: or maybe an install.sh script in the tarball we ship for linux, that would generate a desktop file pointing to the location where Instantbird has been extracted?
21:33:03 <aleth> flo: I'm not sure. Where to put it and what to put in it will depend on where you installed IB, which distro, which window manager...
21:33:14 <aleth> It's really part of packaging.
21:33:33 <Mte90> uhm the .desktop fiel are indipendent of the DE
21:33:41 <aleth> Mte90: It can contain distro-specific features
21:33:57 <Mte90> but a generic file not be create problem
21:34:38 <aleth> That's true, but it has to be moved into the right place.
21:35:02 <Mte90> http://pastebin.instantbird.com/104611
21:35:11 <aleth> I'm not saying we shouldn't do it, but I think the right way to do it is as part of .DEB or .RPM or PPAs.
21:35:12 <Mte90> with the menu editor of kde i have get this
21:35:33 <Mte90> the flag of kde are not mandatory
21:36:09 <flo> aleth: can pkg-config or a similar command tell us where to install the .desktop file?
21:36:35 <flo> aleth: I think just giving examples on the wiki for the top 3 or 4 linux distributions would already be very helpful
21:36:42 <aleth> flo: I don't know.
21:36:49 <Mte90> my desktop file are of debian
21:37:12 <flo> aleth: I think we all agree that the right way to do it is to be in all package management systems ;)
21:37:26 <flo> aleth: but it's not something *we* can easily do
21:37:37 <aleth> No, unfortunately...
21:37:52 <Mte90> http://linuxcritic.wordpress.com/2010/04/07/anatomy-of-a-desktop-file/
21:38:15 <Mte90> t's a standard file
21:38:19 <aleth> Thanks Mte90
21:38:29 <Mte90> it's indipendent of de and distro
21:38:33 <aleth> Yeah, I know it's standard
21:38:57 <Mte90> the only filed important are the path that are distro related
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21:39:20 <aleth> For example the paths stated on that page would be incorrect for me.
21:39:27 <aleth> That's the problem.
21:40:19 <Mte90> there will be an automatic system that generates these files on make install
21:40:25 <aleth> But flo is right, maybe we should create a desktop file and then leave it up to the user to move it to the right place
21:40:52 <Mte90> http://freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/desktop-file-utils
21:41:43 <flo> aleth: currently it's difficult/painful enough that I didn't do it on my father's computer. I just extracted instantbird somewhere, and put on the desktop a link to the "instantbird" script
21:42:24 <aleth> flo: Good point. You could have moved the .desktop file to the Desktop, that would work
21:43:19 <Mte90> Place this file in the /usr/share/applications directory so that it is accessible by everyone, or in ~/.local/share/applications if you only wish to make it accessible to a single user.
21:43:31 <Mte90> extract here http://developer.gnome.org/integration-guide/stable/desktop-files.html.en
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23:04:28 <Mic> Hi
23:08:06 <Mic> I can update the smiley packs' compatibility instead of clokep btw
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23:08:44 <Mic> I'm not sure which three clicks you meant @ http://log.bezut.info/instantbird/today/#m225 , flo. I can look up the packs using the addon manager though and go through the edit-addon section there.
23:10:10 <flo> Mic: that may require being Admin, not just editor
23:10:58 <Mic> I can do that, yes. You granted me some of these rights some time in the past.
23:11:15 <Mic> *at some
23:13:33 <flo> Mic: on https://addons.instantbird.org/en-US/developers/versions/337/ I click on "Version 1.1", in the "Compatible Applications" section, it's possible to select another maxVersion value (ok, that's 2 clicks that I counted as only one...), and finally validate with the "Update Versions" button at the bottom of the page
23:14:24 <Mic> OK, that's what I already did for some
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23:17:48 <flo> ah, you did? I wondered if there 6 themes that have the 1.4a1pre max version were bumped by the add-on authors or if one of us had already started going through the list
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23:35:22 <Mic> I updated all of the public ones and reverted "GG7 Emoticons" after they didn't work in a current nightly.
23:35:36 <Mic> All others were fine,
23:35:40 <Mic> *.
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