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00:29:14 <instantbot> New Core - IRC bug 1812 filed by clokep@gmail.com. 00:29:15 <instantbot> clokep@gmail.com requested review from florian@instantbird .org for attachment 2108 on bug 1812. 00:29:16 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1812 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, IRC accounts should timeout when the connection to the server has stalled 00:42:35 <-- mpmc has quit (Connection reset by peer) 00:55:41 <-- qlum has quit (Quit: Getting the <censored> out.) 01:12:19 <-- mconley has quit (Ping timeout) 01:13:15 --> mconley has joined #instantbird 01:21:02 <-- Kaishi has quit (Ping timeout) 01:21:38 --> mconley_ has joined #instantbird 01:22:08 <-- mconley has quit (Ping timeout) 01:24:58 --> Kaishi has joined #instantbird 01:28:20 <-- meh has quit (Quit: The point is: don't lose your dinosaur.) 01:44:24 --> clokep1 has joined #instantbird 01:44:46 <-- clokep has quit (Ping timeout) 01:46:07 <-- clokep1 has quit (Ping timeout) 02:06:57 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 02:06:57 * ChanServ sets mode +o clokep 02:11:20 <-- Mook_as has quit (Quit: Mook_as) 03:01:10 <-- clokep has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.3a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 03:15:22 <-- micahg has quit (Ping timeout) 03:17:05 --> micahg has joined #instantbird 03:37:00 <instant-buildbot> build #687 of linux-nightly-default is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/linux-nightly-default/builds/687 03:38:46 <-- micahg has quit (Quit: Leaving) 03:39:18 --> micahg has joined #instantbird 04:15:00 <-- EionRobb has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 04:43:51 <-- mconley_ has quit (Input/output error) 04:48:48 --> Mook has joined #instantbird 05:02:47 --> Meeep has joined #instantbird 05:02:56 <Meeep> Need help please 05:03:14 <Meeep> I downloaded the newest instantbird but it didn't come with yahoo,msn or aim 05:03:17 <Meeep> :( 05:06:21 <Meeep> They're not in Instantbird's default protocol list 05:06:25 <Meeep> I'm using arch 05:08:23 <douglaswth> weird, do they show up you select "Show all protocols"? does arch have some option for libpurple that maybe you didn't select? 05:12:43 <Meeep> idk. i showed. all but nothing and pigidin was installed but it had yahoo. 05:18:47 <Meeep> Only thing I see is google talk, Facebook and Twitter 05:18:54 <Meeep> MSN, AIM and Yahoo aren't thre 05:18:56 <Meeep> there 05:19:04 <-- Meeep has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.3 -- http://www.instantbird.com) 05:20:36 --> Meeep has joined #instantbird 05:20:47 <Meeep> I tried to redownload but nothing 05:21:02 <Meeep> Where does Instantbird get it's support for yahoo, and other protocols? 05:21:12 <Meeep> Am I missing some of those plugins? 05:23:02 <douglaswth> libpurple 05:23:47 <Meeep> I have libpurple 05:23:57 <Meeep> pidgin is installed. This makes no sense 05:24:18 <instant-buildbot> build #778 of win32-nightly-default is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/win32-nightly-default/builds/778 05:24:48 <Meeep> What is going on? 05:24:56 <Meeep> Is this an arch issue? 05:25:31 <Mook> Meeep: you downloaded it from instantbird.com? Or does arch have it in AUR? 05:25:42 <Meeep> Arch's AUR is out of date 05:25:48 <Meeep> I had to download the tar.gz 05:26:07 <Meeep> Luckily it runs portablly without hassle but it's missing those vital protocols 05:26:25 <Mook> Okay, so http://instantbird.com/downloads/1.3/instantbird-1.3.en-US.linux-i686.tar.bz2 or something along those lines, hmm. 05:26:40 <Meeep> I downloaded the linux package yes 05:27:01 * Mook wonders if it's missing some dependency for libpurple 05:27:12 <Mook> this would be the 32-bit version, of course :) 05:27:20 <Meeep> Hmmmm... 05:27:31 <Meeep> lib32-libpurple? Or what? 05:28:41 <Meeep> If it was missing libpurple, wouldn't it not launch? 05:29:13 <Mook> no, because xmp (facebook/gtalk), IRC, and twitter are written in JS 05:29:30 <Meeep> I see 05:29:41 <Meeep> What's the arch 32bit libpurple called? 05:29:59 <Mook> I'm going to assume you're comfortable with a shell.. 05:30:13 <Mook> can you run `./run-mozilla.sh $(which ldd) -r components/libpurplexpcom.so` ? 05:30:43 <Meeep> Not that comfortable 05:30:46 <Meeep> But... 05:30:50 <Meeep> From what directory 05:31:02 <Mook> from the instantbird directory (the one with run-mozilla.sh in it) 05:31:07 <Meeep> ok... 05:31:32 <Mook> (my output: http://hastebin.com/reqomisiqo ) 05:31:58 <Mook> (also, I'm not on arch, so things might be slightly different) 05:32:25 <Meeep> I think I messed up 05:32:27 <Meeep> one more try 05:33:48 <Meeep> Uhhh yeah 05:33:55 <Meeep> I'm getting some bash errors 05:34:08 <Mook> huh. I'm using bash, at least.. paste the errors? 05:34:12 <Meeep> I'm not very competent from terminal and I usually depend on notes so I may have screwed up 05:34:22 <Mook> (if it's long, put it on a pastebin somewhere) 05:34:30 <Meeep> bash: ./run-mozilla.sh $(which ldd) -r components/libpurplexpcom.so: No such file or directory 05:34:32 <Meeep> Not long 05:35:09 <Mook> huh. 05:35:35 <Mook> did you end up quoting the whole command? 05:35:43 <Meeep> I think I did. 05:35:47 <Meeep> I may suppressed it 05:35:59 <Meeep> I'll try without the quotes 05:36:02 <Mook> the ` was just meant to say "this is the thing to type", don't include it :) 05:36:34 <Meeep> Ok then 05:36:49 <Meeep> I'm still getting some no file or directory found errors 05:37:19 <Meeep> Am I meant to include the $(which ldd) part? 05:37:33 <Meeep> ldd: components/libpurplexpcon.so: No such file or directory 05:37:58 <Mook> yeah. also, it's xpcom, not xpcon :) 05:38:04 <Mook> (my full command looked something like http://pastebin.instantbird.com/103815 ) 05:38:07 <Meeep> ooo 05:39:55 <Meeep> http://pastebin.com/NehrJH0g 05:40:00 <Meeep> Got a big readout 05:40:05 <Meeep> Hopefully it helps 05:40:32 <Mook> ah! it's getting some undefined symbols. that can be useful. 05:40:55 <Meeep> Hmmm.... 05:41:01 <Mook> libxml2.so.2 => not found 05:41:07 <Meeep> Really? 05:41:17 <Meeep> 32 bit? or 64 bit? 05:41:23 <Mook> (it's on line 12 of what you pasted) 05:41:27 <Mook> yeah, 32 bit 05:42:28 <Meeep> I see 05:42:32 <Meeep> I just installed it 05:42:41 <Meeep> pacman is really awesome at speed 05:43:09 <Meeep> that actually seems like all it didn't find. 05:43:13 <Meeep> I'll try and restart 05:43:16 <Meeep> instantbird 05:43:21 <-- Meeep has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.3 -- http://www.instantbird.com) 05:43:55 --> Meeep has joined #instantbird 05:43:59 <Meeep> Booyeah 05:44:03 <Meeep> Thanks for the help 05:44:25 <Meeep> :) 05:44:31 <Mook> yay! 05:44:53 <Meeep> Would be nice if the AUR was updated. That way I could actually install 05:45:00 <Meeep> But...I'm fine with the portable for now 05:45:41 <Mook> or you can start trying to maintain the aur? :p 05:45:58 <Meeep> Uhhh...I couldn't code my way out of a bean burrito. 05:46:07 <Mook> (or poke the maintainer, I guess, since the last update was august) 05:46:19 <Meeep> I can't find a way to contact him 05:46:31 <Meeep> It doesn't list anything about him other then his name 05:46:35 <Mook> huh. I can't code my way out of burritos, either; I usually just eat things instead. 05:47:36 <Meeep> ...And while it is technically arch. I'm using Manjaro, so that really speaks about my skill level. XD 05:48:05 <douglaswth> there is an email address in the PKGBUILD file 05:49:16 <Meeep> Really? 05:49:21 <Meeep> I'll download that then 05:49:25 <Meeep> thanks 05:49:38 <Meeep> take care 05:52:46 <-- MMN-o_ has quit (Ping timeout) 05:54:01 --> MMN-o has joined #instantbird 05:54:07 <-- Even has quit (Ping timeout) 05:57:31 --> Even has joined #instantbird 05:57:32 * ChanServ sets mode +o Even 06:03:39 --> FeuerFliege has joined #instantbird 06:10:35 <-- skeledrew has quit (Ping timeout) 06:11:17 --> skeledrew has joined #instantbird 06:14:01 <-- skeledrew has quit (Ping timeout) 06:18:33 --> skeledrew has joined #instantbird 06:22:01 <-- skeledrew has quit (Ping timeout) 06:26:24 --> skeledrew has joined #instantbird 06:29:10 <-- skeledrew has quit (Ping timeout) 06:29:41 --> skeledrew has joined #instantbird 06:37:41 <douglaswth> I've bumped the maxVersion for inputhistory and minimumheightinput 06:49:17 <-- Meeep has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.3 -- http://www.instantbird.com) 06:57:50 <-- dew has quit (Ping timeout) 07:05:10 --> dew has joined #instantbird 07:08:05 --> gerard-majax_ has joined #instantbird 07:19:17 <-- gerard-majax_ has quit (Ping timeout) 07:21:24 --> gerard-majax_ has joined #instantbird 07:25:45 <-- gerard-majax_ has quit (Ping timeout) 07:40:49 --> gerard-majax_ has joined #instantbird 07:42:56 <-- gerard-majax_ has quit (Ping timeout) 07:45:34 <instant-buildbot> build #687 of macosx-nightly-default is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/macosx-nightly-default/builds/687 07:55:51 --> gerard-majax_ has joined #instantbird 08:12:31 <-- gerard-majax_ has quit (Ping timeout) 08:38:45 <-- skeledrew has quit (Ping timeout) 08:48:29 --> jb has joined #instantbird 08:53:39 --> skeledrew has joined #instantbird 08:53:50 --> EionRobb has joined #instantbird 08:54:10 --> Optimizer has joined #instantbird 08:57:26 --> gerard-majax_ has joined #instantbird 09:06:06 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 09:06:06 * ChanServ sets mode +h Mic 09:09:51 <-- EionRobb has quit (Ping timeout) 09:12:17 <-- Mook has quit (Quit: Mook) 09:16:15 --> Secretss has joined #instantbird 09:16:34 <Secretss> hihi 09:16:53 <Secretss> is there a way to set "close conversation" as default instead of minimising to the instantbird window? 09:17:01 --> EionRobb has joined #instantbird 09:17:31 <Secretss> or maybe a way to auto close irc windows like hostserv and global and stuff like that that rizon throws at me 09:23:17 --> rosonline has joined #instantbird 09:24:46 <-- FeuerFliege has quit (Ping timeout) 09:26:54 <Mic> Secretss: I've read your comments, please give me a few minutes to check something 09:27:22 <Secretss> :D 09:30:41 <Mic> By "minimizing to the Instantbird window" you meant that the conversation is "put on hold" as we call it? 09:33:03 <-- Optimizer has quit (Ping timeout) 09:33:41 <Mic> Secretss: I see the annoying messages by the way. One with random junk from "Global", the other is about port scans 09:34:06 <Secretss> yes yes 09:34:10 <Secretss> same xD 09:34:48 <Mic> Was any of these yes's about "Conversations on hold"? 09:34:49 <Secretss> now that instantbird is automatically identifying me with rizon's nickserv (AWESOME btw) i'd really like to do away with the welcoming committee 09:35:07 <-- jb has quit (Ping timeout) 09:35:23 <Secretss> mm I meant in agreement with global and port scans. those are among the welcoming committee I get on rizon 09:37:51 <Mic> It shouldn't be hard to hide these conversations, there was an addon that did that for nickserv already: 09:37:58 <Mic> https://addons.instantbird.org/en-US/instantbird/addon/209 09:39:14 <Mic> It could be adapted... 09:41:34 <Secretss> cool 09:41:41 <Secretss> pity I can't code :( 09:42:35 --> jb has joined #instantbird 09:46:46 <Mic> Secretss: that's exactly the point where all of us started from ;) 09:47:13 <Secretss> true xD 09:47:27 --> flo has joined #instantbird 09:47:27 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo flo 09:47:59 <flo> Secretss: needs to change the value of messenger.conversations.alwaysClose 09:48:23 <flo> and clokep may be interested in a bug report with all the messages of the "welcoming committee" 09:48:30 * Mic didn't know we had a pref for that 09:49:16 --> mpmc has joined #instantbird 09:49:21 <flo> and as surprising as it seems, my new ISP seems to work correctly! 09:50:52 <mpmc> =D 09:54:20 <Secretss> flo: awesome, many thanks! :D 09:55:36 <Secretss> it's not a bug though, the welcoming committee 09:55:41 <Secretss> just rizon being silly 09:55:45 <Secretss> :P 09:56:26 <flo> Secretss: we got rid of the moznet welcoming committee, and most of the freenode one 09:56:40 <flo> Secretss: something that annoys Instantbird users is a bug ;). 09:56:47 <flo> Secretss: even if it's not fully our fault 09:57:17 <-- rosonline has quit (Quit: Experimentem Instantbird 1.3 -- http://www.instantbird.com) 09:59:28 <Secretss> awww that's an amazing philosophy 09:59:35 <Secretss> so that's why I love instantbird :D 10:00:32 --> FeuerFliege has joined #instantbird 10:02:42 <flo> Secretss: well, I should have said "something related to Instantbird that annoys Instantbird users" 10:03:01 <flo> Secretss: ISPs that don't work are really not something worth filing an Instantbird bug, even if it makes using Instantbird impossible 10:21:32 <-- flo has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.3 -- http://www.instantbird.com) 10:30:11 <instantbot> New Core - IRC bug 1813 filed by benediktp@ymail.com. 10:30:14 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1813 enh, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Suppress "welcome messages" on Rizon network 10:31:15 <Mic> Secretss: you can add yourself to the CC list if you have a bugzilla account and are interested in following what happens regarding this issue. 10:36:28 <Secretss> oooh 10:36:35 <Secretss> yeah I do 10:36:36 <-- EionRobb has quit (Connection reset by peer) 10:36:45 <Secretss> i've submitted another report before on google talk 10:36:58 <Secretss> it's still not fixed :( but i'm not bugged about it really 10:37:14 --> Optimizer has joined #instantbird 10:40:22 <Secretss> submitted a screenshot 10:40:33 <Secretss> rizon opens up 5 windows 10:49:08 <-- Optimizer has quit (Ping timeout) 10:51:24 --> flo-retina has joined #instantbird 10:51:24 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo-retina flo-retina 10:52:34 --> Optimizer has joined #instantbird 10:57:28 <-- skeledrew has quit (Ping timeout) 10:57:43 --> skeledrew has joined #instantbird 11:16:18 <-- skeledrew has quit (Ping timeout) 11:16:58 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 11:16:59 * ChanServ sets mode +o clokep 11:20:04 --> skeledrew has joined #instantbird 11:20:59 <-- Optimizer has quit (Ping timeout) 11:22:36 <clokep> That's fairly obnoxious of them... 11:24:21 --> Optimizer has joined #instantbird 11:26:27 <flo-retina> I think I'll need to look at the patch in bug 1811 too 11:26:31 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1811 min, --, ---, clokep, ASSI, IRC password does not work with ZNC/server password auth 11:26:45 <clokep> Secretss: Out of curiosity, do you have "Show the server tab" checked in the advanced options? 11:33:25 <clokep> flo-retina: So what does "this.onXmppStanza == this.stanzaListeners.accountListening" mean? 11:33:58 <flo-retina> it checks that we are after the authentication, ie in a situation where sending iq ping stanza makes sense 11:34:15 <clokep> Ah! OK. :) 11:34:49 <clokep> Then my patch is missing something like that. 11:35:27 <flo-retina> I'm not sure if that part really makes sense 11:35:43 <flo-retina> but I think if we haven't received anything in 2 minutes before the auth is done, we want to just disconnect, not send a ping 11:36:11 <flo-retina> (I don't see any valid reason for the auth to take more than 2 minutes) 11:37:02 <-- Mic has quit (Ping timeout) 11:40:36 <clokep> Right. 11:41:54 <flo-retina> so there's maybe a risk that JS-XMPP account never stop a connection attempt if the server stops responding during the auth 11:43:38 --> rosonline has joined #instantbird 11:44:31 <instantbot> clokep@gmail.com requested review from florian@instantbird .org for attachment 2107 on bug 1811. 11:44:33 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1811 min, --, ---, clokep, ASSI, IRC password does not work with ZNC/server password auth 11:46:47 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 11:46:48 * ChanServ sets mode +h Mic 11:52:18 * clokep has a partial patch for bug 1748 done too. :) 11:52:21 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1748 enh, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Add NAMESX support (to get all user modes of someone instead of just one) 11:59:00 <-- clokep has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.3a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 12:09:59 --> qlum has joined #instantbird 12:11:41 <rosonline> hello! Any solution to QQ issue? 12:12:33 <rosonline> I'd upgrade of the libqq-pidgin, but the version of QQ that's available is QQ 2010 12:12:55 <rosonline> so, QQ doesn't allow to connect on my account 12:20:04 --> meh has joined #instantbird 12:26:47 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 12:26:47 * ChanServ sets mode +h aleth 12:26:56 <-- jb has quit (Ping timeout) 12:35:53 --> datiecher has joined #instantbird 12:36:39 <flo-retina> heh, http://micropipes.com/blog/2012/05/31/adding-a-debug-language-to-%C8%A7%E1%B8%93%E1%B8%93-%C7%BF%C6%9Es-%E1%B8%BF%C7%BFzill%C8%A7-%C7%BFr%C9%A0/ so AMO has an equivalent of our cot website locale :) 12:39:26 <-- aleth has quit (Quit: Au revoir) 12:39:33 <-- meh has quit (Quit: The point is: don't lose your dinosaur.) 12:39:39 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 12:39:40 * ChanServ sets mode +h aleth 12:41:33 <aleth> neat, tests unicode at the same time ;) 12:41:51 <Mic> Looks like it was created by a spammer :P 12:42:16 <datiecher> hey guys! 12:42:51 <Mic> Hi 12:43:38 <datiecher> sorry for nagging you on this channel about some xmpp questions i have but i really like the stability your 1.3 has over the xmpp protocol :) 12:44:27 <flo-retina> datiecher: so what are the questions? :) 12:44:47 <aleth> rosonline: clokep's been updating QQ, but the upstream library doesn't seem to have fixed the problem yet 12:44:48 <datiecher> i have built a custom xmpp client on html5 for a client that talks to gtalk and facebook chat 12:45:26 <datiecher> but am habing problems with presence propagation, as sometimes the servers don't send it (specially Facebook...) 12:46:01 <datiecher> and as such, would like to know what you guys are doing to address this issue 12:46:39 <datiecher> i've tought of disconnecting/connecting the user and forcing a presence propagation but this is definitely not ideal 12:47:04 <datiecher> and i don't know if i get presence information when asking for a users' roster :) 12:48:27 <flo-retina> how do you handle parsing an XML stream purely from an HTML5 application? 12:49:49 <datiecher> i'm actually using node-xmpp on the server to ease this but one could go to strophe.js and xmpp over bosh as well in the browser 12:49:55 <rosonline> aleth: Is there any solution for it? 12:50:28 <aleth> rosonline: What do you mean by solution? Until someone fixes the bug in libqq-pidgin, no. 12:51:04 <flo-retina> datiecher: but gtalk and facebook don't support BOSH, do they? 12:51:24 <rosonline> aleth: Is there anyway to create an JScrip version to QQ? 12:51:42 <rosonline> aleth: or another script? 12:51:45 <aleth> rosonline: In principle, yes, in practice - are you volunteering? 12:52:08 <aleth> rosonline: That would be a lot of work 12:52:22 <rosonline> aleth: Only for testing it! :P 12:52:33 <datiecher> flo-retina as i have not delve into using strophe.js because node-xmpp was sufficient i can't answer you :) 12:53:10 <flo-retina> datiecher: so you don't use xmpp to communicate between the node server and the html5 application? 12:53:43 --> clokep_work has joined #instantbird 12:53:43 * ChanServ sets mode +o clokep_work 12:54:11 <datiecher> flo-retina: no, node communicates with the xmpp servers and communication between the node server and the browser happens over socket.io 12:54:32 <rosonline> aleth: I don't undestand about Jscript or another language, but I can search about! 12:54:54 <aleth> rosonline: If you want to learn JS, I would suggest you pick an easier project to start with ;) 12:55:11 <datiecher> flo-retina: as such, the xmpp connection is actually on the node server 12:55:14 <aleth> rosonline: You could write an add-on for example 12:55:44 --> jb has joined #instantbird 12:56:57 <clokep_work> rosonline: Just a note "JScript" is different than "JavaScript". :) 12:57:42 <clokep_work> Although Wikipedia says I'm wrong... 12:57:43 * clokep_work shrugs 12:57:50 <-- rosonline has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 12:58:15 --> rosonline has joined #instantbird 12:58:43 <rosonline> aleth: Can you repeat, please? Mibbit has reset 12:59:14 <aleth> rosonline: I suggested you could write an add-on if you wanted a project to learn JS with 12:59:20 <Mic> rosonline: we have logs of the channel at http://log.bezut.info 12:59:35 <-- jb has quit (Ping timeout) 12:59:50 <datiecher> flo-retina: so, do you have any suggestions for me problem? ;) 13:00:03 <flo-retina> not at all, these problems are not related to Instantbird 13:00:21 <flo-retina> I haven't even fully understood why you are asking here 13:00:26 <aleth> clokep_work: the comments here suggest libqq can be got to work? https://code.google.com/p/libqq-pidgin/wiki/QQ2011Protocol 13:00:36 <rosonline> aleth: I'l try one day... But, is possible update the QQ version on Instantbird? 13:00:52 <aleth> rosonline: I told you before. 13:01:43 <datiecher> flo-retina: as i've said. i've come here talk to instantbird devs because i really like your xmpp support from a user point of view 13:01:45 <clokep_work> aleth: Yes...I updated all the code and it still didn't connect. 13:02:32 <datiecher> flo-retina: and my question is concerning the better way to handle buddies status using xmpp from a dev point of view 13:02:45 <flo-retina> you just handle presence stanzas 13:03:21 <-- Optimizer has quit (Connection reset by peer) 13:03:24 --> Optimizer has joined #instantbird 13:03:25 <datiecher> flo-retina: but don't always get presence stanzas when a contact status changes, specially on facebook chat :( 13:03:27 <rosonline> When I try to connect, the only version that appears is QQ 2010. The same error appears on Pidgin? 13:03:30 <clokep_work> datiecher: I think we're not seeing the issues you are of not getting presence stanzas, we're not doing anything special. 13:05:18 <datiecher> clokep_work: hmm, as i've debugged this issue, it happens a few times over a week period on gtalk and a few times a day on facebook chat 13:06:37 <clokep_work> rosonline: I'm not sure what that means. 13:06:44 <datiecher> i guess i'll need to probe their presence from time to time, because disconnecting and reconnecting the user is not ideal 13:07:34 <datiecher> because as i've looked when asking for a users' roster i don't get any presence for them, right? 13:09:08 <rosonline> clokep_work: This is libqq-pidgin. If this same error appears in Instantbird, is it appears too in Pidgin? 13:11:32 <clokep_work> rosonline: If you're using the same version of the plugin, we'd expect the error to be the same. 13:11:38 <clokep_work> datiecher: I don't know much about XMPP, sorry. 13:11:48 <flo-retina> datiecher: you can try sending ping stanza if the issue happens because you get disconnected without noticing it 13:12:37 <rosonline> clokep_work: I'm searching for the same error on the internet. If I find some solution, I'll post here... 13:13:27 <clokep_work> rosonline: I'm pretty sure we just need to wait for libqq-pidgin to be updated, as aleth mentioned earlier. 13:13:57 <clokep_work> Unfortunately none of "us" use QQ, so we're not going to modify libqq ourselves to fix it. 13:15:50 <rosonline> Only I use QQ, for testing Instantbird... 13:16:44 <clokep_work> Yes, I understand that. 13:17:01 <instantbot> aleth@instantbird.org granted review for attachment 2107 on bug 1811. 13:17:02 <clokep_work> aleth: Any thoughts on that ZNC bug? 13:17:04 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1811 min, --, ---, clokep, ASSI, IRC password does not work with ZNC/server password auth 13:17:08 <clokep_work> Oh...haha. 13:17:13 <clokep_work> I read your mind? ;) 13:17:24 <aleth> clokep_work: Synchronicity! :D 13:18:13 <aleth> rosonline: It's not a simple thing. You'd have to really understand the protocol interna and possibly reverse-engineer the protocol because it's not documented... 13:18:51 <datiecher> flo-retina: didn't knew about it, will look into it, thanks! 13:19:50 <rosonline> aleth: Ok! It isn't for me. It's for an experts (like you) 13:20:18 <aleth> rosonline: It's for an expert in QQ (or someone who wants to make themselves one) 13:21:15 <aleth> clokep_work: When you say "masked option" what do you mean by "masked" exactly? 13:23:07 <-- FeuerFliege has quit (Ping timeout) 13:23:22 --> FeuerFliege has joined #instantbird 13:23:32 <clokep_work> aleth: http://lxr.instantbird.org/instantbird/source/chat/components/public/prplIPref.idl#22 13:24:39 <clokep_work> We totally ignore it in the UI, but it is meant to deal with "sensitive" information that isn't to just be displayed. 13:24:49 <clokep_work> (I.e. a "masked" text field.) 13:25:04 <aleth> i.e. the effect of setting that to true should be to store it in the password manager and not display it unmasked. 13:25:17 * Mic wonders what a masked list would look like ;) 13:26:28 <clokep_work> aleth: Yes. 13:26:33 <clokep_work> Mic: It is only available for text fields. 13:27:22 <aleth> We should probably do that before we delete the old passwords from the legacy prefs then 13:27:56 <clokep_work> aleth: Why? They're unrelated. 13:28:28 <aleth> Yes, but it means we don't have to do it twice ;) 13:28:45 <aleth> Not that it really matters I guess 13:29:23 <clokep_work> You could just use the same code to do it...it's not like we're going to leave it in there for only one version. :) 13:30:32 <clokep_work> Regardless, it's a totally different bug. 13:31:18 <aleth> Sure. 13:31:48 <aleth> Anyway, it's nice we can tell znc users to "just use the nightly" now ;) 13:35:11 --> jb has joined #instantbird 13:35:13 <clokep_work> Yup! :) 13:59:28 * flo-retina doesn't have time to write a detailed comment in bug 1811 now, but will likely r- 13:59:32 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1811 min, --, ---, clokep, ASSI, IRC password does not work with ZNC server password auth 13:59:58 <flo-retina> (well, except if the ideas I want to suggest turn out to be impossible when looking at the code) 14:00:48 <-- Mic has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.4a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 14:17:38 <-- jb has quit (Ping timeout) 14:18:00 --> jb has joined #instantbird 14:28:40 <aleth> Looks like the RTL patches are landing :) 14:30:05 <clokep_work> flo-retina: Take your time. ZNC not working isn't bothering me. ;) 14:30:13 <flo-retina> ahah :) 14:40:46 <-- rosonline has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 14:40:52 --> rosonline has joined #instantbird 14:45:07 --> mconley has joined #instantbird 14:49:53 <-- rosonline has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 14:53:38 <-- FeuerFliege has quit (Ping timeout) 14:55:15 --> Mte90 has joined #instantbird 15:04:42 <-- jb has quit (Input/output error) 15:05:20 --> jb has joined #instantbird 15:06:44 <-- Kaishi has quit (Quit: Kaishi) 15:17:04 <-- datiecher has quit (Client exited) 15:30:33 <clokep_work> Anyone know how to say "Lunch" in Italian? 15:30:43 <Mte90> pranzo 15:30:47 <Mte90> i'm italian XD 15:31:21 <clokep_work> Mte90: Thanks. :) We didn't believe Google Translate. ;) 15:31:29 <Mte90> :-P 15:31:39 <flo-retina> clokep_work: "I Think there are a good reflection after to migrate to mozilla mailing lists ... !" ;) 15:33:32 <clokep_work> flo-retina: Yes...It is also mirrored on Google Groups. ;) I'll respond when I'm no longer "hangry". :P 15:33:47 <clokep_work> (That's being angry because you're hungry... ;)) 15:33:58 <flo-retina> (I understood :)) 15:34:23 <Mte90> uh 15:34:34 <Mte90> i get an error when i try to compile instantbird on debian sid 64 bit 15:34:35 <flo-retina> clokep_work: italian lunch time, right? :) 15:35:00 <Mte90> xpcomModule.cpp:52:1: error: invalid suffix "x" on integer constant 15:35:06 <flo-retina> I think we saw that on twitter recently ;) 15:35:11 <flo-retina> here is a better place to ask! :) 15:35:16 <Mte90> ya 15:35:16 <clokep_work> flo-retina: Hah, we eat lunch at 11:30, normally. 15:35:21 <Mte90> i have retried now to compile 15:35:23 <Mte90> but same error 15:35:34 <Mte90> in italy laucnh is at the 13:00 15:35:36 <clokep_work> Mte90: Can you give more context to the error? feel free to use pastebin.instantbird.org 15:35:40 <Mte90> uhm ok 15:36:26 <Mte90> http://pastebin.instantbird.com/103915 15:36:32 <Mte90> i not have inserted all the log 15:36:35 <Mte90> is bigg XD 15:36:40 <Mte90> the error as the end of the log 15:37:02 <flo-retina> pastebining the content of xpcomModule.cpp could help 15:37:15 <Mte90> iit's the 1.3 version of instantbird 15:37:32 <flo-retina> Mte90: that file is generated (at line 57 in your pastebin) 15:37:39 * clokep_work wonders if libavahi is installed. 15:37:57 <flo-retina> although I guess just s/@PROTOCOL@/bonjour/g shouldn't cause any issue 15:38:21 <Mte90> are installed 15:38:24 <Mte90> libavahi-common-dev libavahi-client-dev 15:38:27 <flo-retina> Mte90: next thing to do is: 15:38:27 <flo-retina> cd /home/mte90/Desktop/obj-instantbird/purple/libpurple/protocols/bonjour && make xpcomModule.i 15:38:50 <flo-retina> that will produce a large file though, so I'm not sure how you can show it to us :( 15:40:09 <Mte90> i have doit this command 15:41:24 <Mte90> i retry to compile now 15:42:30 <Mte90> same error 15:43:55 <flo-retina> Mte90: that command wouldn't change anything to the error 15:44:17 <Mte90> ah 15:44:19 <flo-retina> Mte90: it's to create the xpcomModule.i file that we can then examine 15:44:28 <Mte90> where is this file? 15:45:14 --> FeuerFliege has joined #instantbird 15:45:42 <Mte90> ok i have find it 15:46:27 <Mte90> http://www.sendspace.com/file/lky09v 15:46:30 <Mte90> i have uplaoded 15:48:11 <flo-retina> next time try to use a file sharing service with less annoying ads ;) 15:48:21 <Mte90> suggest for fiel sharing? 15:48:26 <Mte90> i use adblock on the browser XD 15:50:08 <flo-retina> Mte90: you need to install the uuidgen tool 15:50:30 <flo-retina> then delete the xpcomModule.cpp file, and try compiling again. 15:50:38 <Mte90> ok i have isntalled uuid-runtime 15:50:45 <clokep_work> flo-retina: Should we check for that in configure? 15:50:53 * clokep_work ran into that once before too. 15:50:53 <flo-retina> what happens if you type "uuidgen" in your terminal? 15:50:55 <flo-retina> clokep_work: yes 15:51:07 <Mte90> 46bb2255-4ca9-40a6-9c58-8e1551dda649 15:51:09 <flo-retina> ok 15:51:13 <flo-retina> then try compiling again :) 15:51:30 <Mte90> i have added the flag -16 to make for speed the compile XD 15:52:24 <-- Secretss has quit (Ping timeout) 15:55:00 <Mte90> same error 15:55:30 * clokep_work wonders if a clean is necessary first. 15:55:35 <Mte90> ok 15:55:45 <Mte90> make clean not work 15:57:50 <Mte90> ok i have cleaned 15:57:52 <Mte90> retry 15:59:02 <-- jb has quit (Connection reset by peer) 16:00:30 <-- Optimizer has quit (Ping timeout) 16:01:05 --> jb has joined #instantbird 16:03:38 <flo-retina> Mte90: oh sorry, it's xpcomCid.h that you should delete 16:03:59 --> Optimizer has joined #instantbird 16:04:09 <Mte90> i have removed the obj-instantbird dir 16:04:19 <flo-retina> that should do. (longer though :)) 16:04:46 <Mte90> but with -j16 it's more fast than before XD 16:08:54 <-- Optimizer has quit (Ping timeout) 16:10:26 --> Optimizer has joined #instantbird 16:25:36 <clokep_work> Ah-ha! http://blog.instantbird.org/2012/11/instantbird-1-3-released/#comment-2393 " It work's; Symantec no longer detects a Instantbird 1.3 as a security risk. :)" 16:25:50 * flo-retina is using node-xmpp, and thinking the XML API it uses is much better than our JS-XMPP XML API 16:26:28 <clokep_work> flo-retina: Rewrite ours? :P You've wanted to forever! 16:26:38 <flo-retina> not now 16:27:16 <flo-retina> I'll do it only once I'm familiar enough with the API used by node-xmpp to know what I don't like about it, and then either adopt it or design something better 16:35:09 <Mte90> work! 16:35:13 <Mte90> i have nstall it! 16:40:18 <Mte90> uhm a support for opendesktop? 16:41:17 <-- jb has quit (Ping timeout) 16:41:43 <-- FeuerFliege has quit (Ping timeout) 16:42:55 --> mikk_s has joined #instantbird 16:43:04 <Mte90> uhm i need to associate the https program 16:43:12 <-- mikk_s has left #instantbird () 16:44:15 <Mte90> uhm not show avatar with twitter 16:44:39 <aleth> Mte90: that depends on the message style you are using 16:44:51 <aleth> for example Minimal 2 will show the avatars 16:45:39 <aleth> Mte90: It's true Linux desktop integration could be better, file bugs and help us fix them ;) 16:47:09 <-- Optimizer has quit (Ping timeout) 16:48:36 --> jb has joined #instantbird 16:48:39 <Mte90> uhm how to open timeline of twitter? 16:49:06 <aleth> Your own? 16:49:26 <Mte90> i have 2 account but when i start instantbird not open the windows of the timeline 16:49:41 <aleth> They will be opened if there are new tweets 16:49:51 <aleth> You can open by hand using "Join chat" 16:49:55 <Mte90> ahh ok 16:50:46 <Mte90> for minimize on tray the timeline window? 16:51:07 --> Optimizer has joined #instantbird 16:51:32 <aleth> The conversation window doesn't minimize to tray, only the contact list 16:51:39 <Mte90> d'oh 16:51:43 <aleth> But if you close the timeline it will appear in the contact list 16:53:54 <Mte90> a button near the tweet for retweet it's useful 16:54:05 <Mte90> i need to right click and retweet 16:54:07 --> FeuerFliege has joined #instantbird 16:54:07 <aleth> Use the context menu 16:54:31 <aleth> But we have thought about adding some kind of button 16:54:49 <aleth> It would have to work for all message styles though, that's not easy 16:55:58 <aleth> Mte90: now you can use Instantbird for IRC too ;) 16:56:07 <-- gerard-majax_ has quit (Ping timeout) 16:56:21 <Mte90> ok but a button for show all the reply or mention tweet it's possible? 16:56:30 <-- Optimizer has quit (Ping timeout) 16:56:34 <Mte90> for irc i use konversation 16:56:40 <Mte90> XD 16:56:57 <aleth> What do you mean, show all the reply? 16:57:08 <Mte90> in choqok i have a button that 16:57:20 <Mte90> show all the tweet when i'm mentioned 16:57:26 <Mte90> *where 16:57:37 <aleth> Like a filter for the timeline? 16:57:40 <Mte90> yes 16:57:52 <aleth> If you see missing features like that please file bugs ;) 16:58:29 <Mte90> ok 16:59:17 <aleth> Our twitter support is still fairly basic... there is much more that could be done with it. 17:00:42 <aleth> Btw for now I guess search is you best bet for finding all the mentions 17:00:53 <aleth> (ctrl+F) 17:04:39 --> Optimizer has joined #instantbird 17:09:07 <mpmc> Didn't think it was possible to search in the window, thanks for the tip aleth! 17:15:40 <-- jb has quit (Ping timeout) 17:19:35 <Mte90> uhm the sound for notify it's low 17:21:27 <aleth> There is an add-on that allows tweaking some sound options 17:21:44 <aleth> If that's not enough, you can easily write one to do it ;) 17:23:25 <aleth> That's also how you change the sounds 17:26:03 --> jb has joined #instantbird 17:40:18 --> Mook_as has joined #instantbird 17:41:23 <-- Optimizer has quit (Ping timeout) 17:45:24 --> Optimizer has joined #instantbird 17:52:49 <clokep_work> There's no way to increase the volume AFAIK. That's kind of an OS thing IMO. 17:58:04 --> wnayes has joined #instantbird 18:01:28 <-- Optimizer has quit (Ping timeout) 18:02:18 <-- jb has quit (Ping timeout) 18:06:13 --> Optimizer has joined #instantbird 18:07:34 --> jb has joined #instantbird 18:07:59 <-- mpmc has quit (Connection reset by peer) 18:14:02 <-- flo-retina has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.4a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 18:25:25 <-- Mte90 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) 18:27:19 --> meh has joined #instantbird 18:27:50 <-- jb has quit (Ping timeout) 18:40:17 <-- Optimizer has quit (Ping timeout) 18:44:34 --> Optimizer has joined #instantbird 19:03:38 <-- Optimizer has quit (Ping timeout) 19:11:56 --> unghost has joined #instantbird 19:14:36 --> Optimizer has joined #instantbird 19:26:50 --> Mnyromyr has joined #instantbird 19:30:15 * clokep_work would still like it if we automatically went away when locking the computer. 19:44:41 --> gerard-majax_ has joined #instantbird 19:53:40 <instantbot> clokep@gmail.com set the Resolution field on bug 1794 to DUPLICATE of bug 1100. 19:53:43 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1794 nor, --, ---, nobody, RESO DUPLICATE, Connecting to a self-signed SSL irc server is unfriendly due to the UI making exceptions difficult 19:53:44 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1100 cri, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Use Firefox untrusted cert dialog for "SSL Handshake failed" errors 19:58:10 --> Mic|web has joined #instantbird 20:06:52 <-- Optimizer has quit (Ping timeout) 20:11:50 --> EionRobb has joined #instantbird 20:15:05 <-- Mic|web has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 20:18:28 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 20:18:28 * ChanServ sets mode +h Mic 20:29:15 --> flo has joined #instantbird 20:29:15 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo flo 20:31:47 <-- flo has quit (Ping timeout) 20:37:07 <-- EionRobb has quit (Ping timeout) 20:48:33 --> EionRobb has joined #instantbird 20:52:54 <-- FeuerFliege has quit (Ping timeout) 20:57:48 <-- unghost has quit (Quit: Ð£Ñ Ð¾Ð¶Ñ Ñ Ð¾Ñ Ð²Ð°Ñ (xchat 2.4.5 или ÑÑаÑÑе)) 21:03:33 --> wesj1 has joined #instantbird 21:06:35 --> flo has joined #instantbird 21:06:36 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo flo 21:06:53 <-- flo has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.3a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 21:07:46 --> flo has joined #instantbird 21:07:46 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo flo 21:19:01 <instantbot> aleth@instantbird.org set the Resolution field on bug 1629 to DUPLICATE of bug 1591. 21:19:04 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1629 nor, --, ---, nobody, RESO DUPLICATE, Facebook disconnecting silently whilst still appearing connected 21:19:05 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1591 nor, --, ---, nobody, RESO DUPLICATE, XMPP connection doesn't notice disconnection 21:37:58 <Mic> clokep_work: fix bug 840 then;) 21:38:01 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=840 enh, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Set to "away" automatically when locking the OS. 21:43:55 <Mic> Good night 21:44:00 <-- Mic has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.4a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 21:58:43 <-- Mnyromyr has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [SeaMonkey 1.1.19/2010030105]) 22:13:36 <-- meh has quit (Quit: The point is: don't lose your dinosaur.) 22:15:34 <flo> ah this time Norton as decided that purplexpcom-tb16.dll from the Tb add-on is a virus because it doesn't have a good enough reputation :-S. 22:16:18 <aleth> They identify viruses by reputation these days? :-S 22:16:49 <flo> https://addons.mozilla.org/fr/firefox/addon/additional-chat-protocols/reviews/401512/ 22:16:54 <flo> aleth: apparently 22:17:13 <EionRobb> ur a virus 22:17:40 <flo> I wonder why people keep paying for a piece of software that randomly removes .dll files from their Windows system... 22:18:06 <aleth> ...and probably eats quite a lot of system resources as a bonus 22:18:12 <Mook_as> unfortunately, I think you need to either 1) get your own cert (probably from startssl or something, I hear they have an offer for open source things), or 2) somehow convince mozilla to sign your binary :( 22:18:28 <Mook_as> or 3) convince your users to switch a non-stupid system, I guess 22:18:41 <EionRobb> 4) stop using norton trash 22:18:54 <Mook_as> well, that was 3), since I hope flo isn't using it himself :p 22:19:01 <flo> Mook_as: the file is built from Mozilla's try server 22:19:36 <Mook_as> ack. and try _definitely_ has no access to the certs (that would be... either silly or crazy) 22:19:54 <flo> Mook_as: well, I use OS X 10.8 half of the time, and that system also stupidly refuses to install (by default) files that haven't paid the Apple tax, errr... I mean been signed. 22:20:13 <Mook_as> oh, right, that. yeah, I have... some experience with that 22:20:19 <-- mconley has quit (Input/output error) 22:21:56 <-- wesj1 has quit (Ping timeout) 22:28:07 --> wesj1 has joined #instantbird 22:28:25 <flo> so it seems the peak on http://ftp.instantbird.com/instantbird/stats/last2years.php wasn't just due to the disabled nightlies :) 22:29:53 <Mook_as> so... what happened in july 2011 again? :D 22:30:21 <Mook_as> interesting that there's a dip and coming back up 22:31:15 <flo> http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Instantbird-1-3-released-with-Twitter-and-IRC-improvements-1753590.html 22:31:24 <aleth> That was 1.1 I guess 22:31:52 <flo> Mook_as: July 2011 was 1.0, featured on lifehacker 22:32:13 <flo> 1.1 was october 2011, 1.2 was august 2012 22:32:26 <Mook_as> ha, yeah, 1.0 sounds like a good reason for the jump :) 22:33:06 <flo> Mook_as: the jump is even more obvious if you look at the full picture: http://ftp.instantbird.com/instantbird/stats/ 22:33:15 <aleth> The nicest thing about that graph is the recent trend ;) 22:33:32 <flo> and there's another visible jump around july 2010, that was 0.2 22:33:41 <clokep_work> I'm glad all these news outfits just blatantly copy our release announcement. ;) 22:33:53 <aleth> "news" 22:34:14 <flo> clokep_work: At least they don't include non-sense 22:34:27 <flo> clokep_work: this one took the time to do some research to add links that make sense! 22:34:33 <clokep_work> flo: Btw I've found Microsoft's AV software to be really good. :) 22:34:51 <flo> clokep_work: that's what I have on my Win7 laptop 22:35:57 <clokep_work> :) 22:35:58 <flo> (although an OS maker producing AV software instead of plugging the holes that make the viruses possible in the first place is... errr... "interesting"(?)) 22:36:37 <flo> aleth: yes, the trend since 1.2 is nice 22:36:45 <clokep_work> Yes...hmm...Mozilla's social API announcement is very 1984-ish. 22:37:19 <-- wnayes has quit (Ping timeout) 22:37:31 <flo> what's been announced? 22:37:53 <clokep_work> flo: http://pastebin.instantbird.com/103990 22:38:05 <flo> clokep_work: ah, the mozillians post? 22:38:10 <clokep_work> Yes. 22:38:19 * flo hadn't checked email in the last hour or so 22:38:31 * clokep_work just got back and checked it. ;) 22:38:45 <clokep_work> Also, I do enjoy the trends in there. :) We've had some great growth since 1.2! 22:39:23 <aleth> clokep_work: glad I'm not the only one who thought that a bit underwhelming 22:40:33 <aleth> Though I saw the blogpost instead 22:40:37 --> wnayes has joined #instantbird 22:45:41 * clokep_work hopes his last post on the mailing list wasn't too blunt. 22:46:52 <aleth> Which mailing list? 22:47:55 <clokep_work> aleth: instantbird-contact. 22:48:05 <clokep_work> Hey wnayes! How goes your semester? 22:48:12 * clokep_work assumes you just took your second round of exams... 22:48:35 <aleth> clokep_work: ah, I thought that was dead already 22:48:55 <clokep_work> aleth: It is "dead", but we haven't disabled emails on it yet. 22:49:15 <flo> clokep_work: can we make the old list read-only? 22:49:46 <clokep_work> flo: Yes, we have to "disable" it, I think. 22:49:56 <clokep_work> I saw the option in there, but it's owner only -- I'm just an admin. 22:50:24 <flo> ahah, so we would have to ask Julien ? :-D 22:50:39 <clokep_work> Ah, are you not the owner? 22:50:53 <flo> I don't think so 22:52:18 <-- gerard-majax_ has quit (Ping timeout) 22:52:48 <wnayes> clokep_work: It's going well :) not much free time though. 22:54:11 <clokep_work> wnayes: Busy isn't bad. ;) 22:55:10 * flo hopes the import wizard will ship in 1.4! :) 23:04:10 <wnayes> Hopefully over thanksgiving break I'll be able to make some more changes/fixes. It's a tough task to start because it seems like there's an endless amount of things to do :) 23:04:30 <clokep_work> wnayes: That's why splitting it up might be a good start! 23:04:33 --> Kaishi has joined #instantbird 23:05:41 <flo> clokep_work++ 23:05:57 <flo> wnayes: btw, "It's a tough task to start because it seems like there's an endless amount of things to do" also applies to reviewing it ;). 23:06:01 <clokep_work> (Which, next year, we should make sure a GSoC student does smaller bits...) 23:06:29 <clokep_work> Goodnight! 23:06:41 <-- clokep_work has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.4a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 23:10:17 <-- aleth has quit (Ping timeout) 23:13:34 <-- Kaishi has quit (Quit: Kaishi) 23:13:39 --> Kaishi has joined #instantbird 23:44:19 <-- qlum has quit (Quit: Getting the <censored> out.)