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00:04:24 --> mconley has joined #instantbird 00:06:52 <flo> the upload to google code took 13m27 00:07:05 <clokep> That's pretty fast. 00:08:38 <flo> https://twitter.com/twitterapi/status/269230249009618944 00:09:02 * clokep goes to close a bug... 00:09:15 <flo> :) 00:09:46 <instantbot> firstname.lastname@example.org cancelled review?(email@example.com) for attachment 2067 on bug 1774. 00:09:48 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1774 nor, --, ---, nobody, RESO DUPLICATE, Localize the VKontakte/Odnoklassniki chat names 00:10:16 <instantbot> firstname.lastname@example.org set the Resolution field on bug 1799 to WORKSFORME. 00:10:19 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1799 nor, --, ---, nobody, RESO WORKSFORME, Error 401 - Twitter protocol don't connect 00:13:09 <instantbot> email@example.com denied review for attachment 2059 on bug 1769. 00:13:11 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1769 enh, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Make names of protocols localizable 00:19:08 <flo> so, let's finish that release! 00:19:31 <clokep> :) 00:19:39 <flo> http://www-staging2.instantbird.com/ seems to work fine for me, it redirects the downloads to google code, and the download starts 00:19:48 <flo> is everything ready to push that live? 00:20:15 <instantbot> firstname.lastname@example.org granted review for attachment 2058 on bug 1751. 00:20:17 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1751 min, --, ---, aleth, ASSI, No feedback when the /nick command fails 00:20:18 <clokep> I think so. We need to finish the blog post. 00:20:51 <flo> hmm, I also need to find which server actually hosts www.ib.com right now to know where I need to hg pull/up :-D 00:21:00 <flo> ok, it's mine 00:22:38 topic changed by flo to "Ask about Instantbird (http://instantbird.com) here!|Current version is Instantbird 1.3! :) |News: http://blog.instantbird.org/ |Nightlies: http://nightly.instantbird.im/ (for testing only) |IRC logs: http://log.bezut.info/ |Pastebin: http://pastebin.instantbird.org/ | Bugs: http://bugzilla.instantbird.org" 00:24:33 <clokep> :) So....is that blog post decent? Can someone add to the end of it? :P 00:26:05 <flo> maybe just tease, saying that "we will update to a more recent gecko platform with awesome new features and btw, can you imagine what cool things we could do with something like WebRTC?" 00:27:16 <flo> "Could not change to the specified nickname." what about "Could not use the specified nickname."? 00:27:38 <flo> "could not change to blah" makes me think "could not change *what*?!?" 00:28:48 <flo> and why are we writing that system message to all the conversations of the account, rather than just in the conversation where the /nick command was typed? 00:29:47 <clokep> Partially because I'm tired of that bug. :( 00:30:42 <clokep> flo: Any chance you have a nice screenshot w/ show nick? :D 00:31:12 <flo> I think screenshots from my retina screen usually look bad :-/ 00:31:25 <clokep> OK. let me launch another profile. 00:31:53 --> clokep_js has joined #instantbird 00:31:58 <flo> maybe just look in #developers? People are often talking to each other there 00:32:16 <flo> not sure if people would be upset to have some of their messages publicly posted 00:32:37 <clokep> Is there a reasonable way to launch that fake conversation? 00:32:58 <clokep> ( / is there one that is a MUC?) 00:34:18 <flo> oh, are you playing with Fake? :) 00:34:36 <clokep> I was wondering how hard it would be to do? I don't kno whow to launch it or anything... 00:34:49 <flo> is it compiled by default in debug builds? 00:35:10 <clokep> I thought it was. 00:35:12 <-- clokep_js has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.3a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 00:35:51 <flo> it is! 00:35:57 <flo> it seems you just need FAKE=1 in the environment 00:36:15 <flo> do that on a fresh profile! 00:36:57 <clokep> OK. :) 00:42:26 <clokep> Hmm...OK....let's see. 00:42:54 <clokep> :( I'm getting "account is null" errors. :-/ 00:43:06 <clokep> (A bunch of accounts are added to the account manager, but no conversation pops up) 00:43:20 <clokep> http://pastebin.instantbird.com/102782 00:43:51 <clokep> http://pastebin.instantbird.com/102783 is the real error it seems. 00:46:43 <-- flo has quit (Ping timeout) 00:48:17 --> flo has joined #instantbird 00:48:17 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo flo 00:49:26 <flo> fake will keep bitrotting until we integrate it in our unit tests and run it automatically everyday. 00:50:16 <flo> clokep: if you don't have time to unbitrot it, you can probably comment out all the part related to adding buddies in the contact list 00:50:43 <clokep> flo: Yes. I'm working on it right now. 00:50:52 <clokep> I'll get up a blog post tonight, but I think you can feel free to go to bed? 00:52:01 <flo> has anything in jsProtoHelper.jsm related to accounts changed? 00:52:58 <clokep> I don't think so. :( 00:54:17 <flo> it's not actually using the account implementation from jsprotohelper 00:55:23 <flo> but you are right, I should just go to bed, and read planet "tomorrow" :) 00:56:13 <clokep> Ciao! 00:59:12 <-- rosonline has quit (Quit: Experimentem Instantbird 1.2 -- http://www.instantbird.com) 01:05:38 <-- qlum has quit (Connection reset by peer) 01:52:21 <clokep> So it seems like this is bit rotted pretty badly... :-/ 01:52:45 <clokep> But I think some of it is that prplProtocol is missing from the conversation. 02:03:36 --> clokep_js has joined #instantbird 02:03:45 <clokep_js> Hello! 02:04:06 <clokep> clokep_js: Aren't you excited for Instantbird 1.3?! I'm sure instantbot is! 02:04:29 <clokep_js> clokep: I sure am! 02:05:06 <clokep_js> instantbot: Botsnack 02:05:07 <instantbot> :) 02:05:14 <-- clokep has left #instantbird () 02:05:52 <clokep_js> Are you enjoying the "show nick" functionality clokep? 02:06:40 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 02:06:41 * ChanServ sets mode +o clokep 02:06:46 <-- clokep_js has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.3a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 02:11:28 <-- Mook_as has quit (Quit: Mook_as) 02:12:34 <-- mconley has quit (Input/output error) 02:19:36 <instantbot> Just appeared in Blog@instantbird.org - http://blog.instantbird.org : 02:19:37 <instantbot> http://blog.instantbird.org/2012/11/instantbird-1-3-released/ - Instantbird 1.3 Released! 03:14:08 <-- clokep has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.3a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 03:25:39 --> Mook has joined #instantbird 04:01:44 <-- DGMurdockIII has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.89 [Firefox 17.0/20121113065533]) 06:32:50 --> unghost has joined #instantbird 06:33:03 * unghost is now known as unghost_work 06:41:46 --> gerard-majax has joined #instantbird 07:20:05 <-- Mook has quit (Quit: Mook) 07:31:45 <-- gerard-majax has quit (Ping timeout) 07:36:02 --> FeuerFliege has joined #instantbird 08:06:32 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 08:06:33 * ChanServ sets mode +h Mic 08:09:48 <Mic> hI 08:09:51 <Mic> hI 08:10:03 <Mic> pah, "Hi!" 08:15:34 <-- FeuerFliege has quit (Connection reset by peer) 08:20:21 <Mic> Congratulation to all for releasing :) 08:33:26 <Mic> What's the next version by thw way? IB 1.4, 2.0, 17, 18, 19? ;) 08:39:34 --> jb has joined #instantbird 08:40:51 <flo> Mic: Likely 1.4, 2.0 or 20 08:52:28 <flo> ah, the instantbird blog is no longer on planet, we will need Patrick to blog about 1.3 in his own blog if we want something visible on planet :-/ 08:55:44 <Mic> Yes, I didn't like this change (moving "projects" to their own feed), the only thing that always annoyed me were the overly long and poorly formatted meeting minutes posting there... 09:09:12 <-- flo has quit (Ping timeout) 09:09:19 --> flo has joined #instantbird 09:09:20 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo flo 09:47:57 --> deltafalcon has joined #instantbird 09:52:23 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 09:52:23 * ChanServ sets mode +h aleth 10:02:00 --> Optimizer has joined #instantbird 10:03:31 <aleth> flo: We send that system message to all conversations because we don't store the conversation sending a command in IRC anywhere, and I'm not adding a mechanism for that just for this edge case ;) 10:04:06 <aleth> But please do change the string on checkin, I like yours better too. 10:06:18 <aleth> Lots of release RTs :) 10:07:19 <flo> "we don't store the conversation sending a command in IRC anywhere" so how do you handle /whois? :-S 10:07:28 <-- flo has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.3 -- http://www.instantbird.com) 10:07:49 --> mikk_s has joined #instantbird 10:08:20 <-- mikk_s has quit (Client exited) 10:08:21 <aleth> With an observer. 10:08:36 --> mikk_s has joined #instantbird 10:09:00 <-- mikk_s has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2 -- http://www.instantbird.com) 10:14:03 --> mikk_s has joined #instantbird 10:17:09 <aleth> Mic: I was able to upload the addon files to AIO now. 10:17:27 <Mic> OK, will check 10:17:43 <Mic> I need to update my addons too 10:17:50 <-- mikk_s has left #instantbird () 10:18:02 <-- Optimizer has quit (Ping timeout) 10:18:03 <aleth> Ping me if you need an r+ 10:20:26 <aleth> clokep: What's the difference betwen "reject" and "discard" in the mailing list interface? 10:22:05 <aleth> I assume reject informs the sender... 10:26:31 <Mic> aleth, I uploaded a new version of "Smile!" that fixes the position of the arrow panel. All others are compatibility updates only. 10:28:22 --> flo-retina has joined #instantbird 10:28:22 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo-retina flo-retina 10:29:51 <-- aleth has quit (Quit: Au revoir) 10:29:53 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 10:29:54 * ChanServ sets mode +h aleth 10:32:27 <flo-retina> aleth: can't that observer be shared/reused for the /nick command? 10:32:34 <flo-retina> (or any command that can fail...) 10:32:42 <flo-retina> can't /topic also fail? 10:32:57 <aleth> flo-retina: Not really, it's the user-info-received notification 10:33:10 <flo-retina> ah 10:33:21 <aleth> A lot of commands can fail, and that's a bit of a problem 10:33:27 <flo-retina> we will need to fix that some day 10:33:39 <aleth> Because it's not always possible to easily figure out which command the error was in response to 10:33:57 <aleth> The server does not have to respond in order... 10:33:58 <flo-retina> probably have something called for each irc command that stores the conversation and the command name, so that we can then know where to report the error 10:34:22 <aleth> We have something like that for certain errors, and it's already a bit cumbersome, but I agree 10:34:31 <flo-retina> aleth: well, if we never display the error message for a command that isn't the latest one, that doesn't seem too bad 10:34:53 <flo-retina> "it's already a bit cumbersome" sounds like it needs to be cleaned up / generalized 10:35:04 <flo-retina> but I guess I agree that this would be better dealt with in a different bug. 10:35:23 <aleth> Yes, it's definitely not straightforward. 10:41:42 <aleth> Btw, I put the show nick system message styling in my add-on, if anyone wants to see what it looks like. 10:42:02 <-- jb has quit (Quit: jb) 10:42:34 --> jb has joined #instantbird 10:43:59 <instantbot> email@example.com set the Resolution field on bug 1763 to WORKSFORME. 10:44:02 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1763 nor, --, ---, nobody, RESO WORKSFORME, Failed login when nick already taken results in repeated connection attempts 10:53:36 <aleth> Looks like someone translated the release announcement into German :) 10:53:41 <flo-retina> when I get a "This nick isn't registered" message from nickserv, is this a bug? 10:54:02 <flo-retina> It's typically because my nick is already connected (if it hasn't ping timeout'ed yet) and we attempt to auth for "<nick>1" 10:54:22 <aleth> Do you mean, is it a bug that we display the message? 10:54:35 <aleth> Or that we try to ID with that nick? 10:54:37 <flo-retina> no, that we attempt to auth for a nick that isn't what the user specified? 10:55:23 <aleth> Good question. Do we want to assume the user has maybe also registered nick1 and grouped it? 10:55:39 <flo-retina> would users do that? ;) 10:55:53 <aleth> I doubt it... 10:55:58 <flo-retina> or am I asking again in a different way for an advanced pref where you could specify all your grouped nicks? 10:56:24 <flo-retina> I would like to be logged in automatically as "flo", and as "flo-retina" if there's already another "flo" connected 10:56:27 <aleth> We should discuss how we handle grouped nicks anyway now clokep is back (re that other bug) 10:57:38 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 10:57:39 * ChanServ sets mode +o clokep 10:59:25 * aleth is now known as aleth1 10:59:37 <flo-retina> aleth1: and now he's really back! ;) 10:59:53 <aleth1> :D 11:00:55 * aleth1 is now known as aleth 11:09:29 <Mic> aleth: http://www.glazman.org/weblog/dotclear/index.php?post/2012/11/16/MathML-and-Thunderbird 11:09:41 <Mic> You were interested in using math markup in IB, iirc. 11:10:14 <Mic> Maybe you find some inspiration/useful things in this add-on? 11:10:24 <flo-retina> is the .m4v format easily readable? 11:10:35 <aleth> Mic: Could be- thanks :) 11:10:46 <aleth> I like MathJax because it's just JS. 11:11:46 <aleth> So you don't even need an extra "enter formula" layer 11:12:15 <flo-retina> or is .mov more readable? 11:12:15 <aleth> The JS just auto-converts the formulas in the html. 11:12:42 <aleth> flo-retina: I'm not sure. 11:12:43 <flo-retina> I'm finishing a screencast showing Jb and me demo'ing the WebRTC in Tb/Fx demo. 11:13:08 <aleth> What does html5 video support? 11:13:22 <flo-retina> I guess exporting to youtube would be the easiest way to ensure it's readable, but I'm not sure all the people who are in the contact lists would like to have their names showed there 11:14:05 <clokep> aleth: Reject informs the sender, discard does not. You usually want discard. 11:14:15 <clokep> (There's a little button there which explains them too. ;)) 11:14:38 <clokep> flo-retina: We use the normal tooltip mechanism for whois and just add an observer to the conversation. 11:14:43 <flo-retina> you probably want "reject" if you don't want to let the email go through because it is insulting, or that kind of reasons 11:14:50 <flo-retina> (ie you are actually moderating it, not just filtering spam) 11:16:36 <clokep> flo-retina: I find m4v more readable, I think. I don't install quicktime ever... 11:16:40 <clokep> It's garbage on Windows. 11:16:55 <flo-retina> isn't m4v an Apple format too? 11:17:10 <clokep> Maybe. 11:17:13 <clokep> Use a real format? :P 11:17:38 <flo-retina> clokep: the question is "what's a real format?" (I don't think VP8 is in iMovie's list) 11:18:04 <jb> flo-retina: can't wait to see it! should have put my sunglasses on!! 11:18:09 <clokep> :( I don't know. It's surprisingly hard to find formats everything can read. 11:18:15 <flo-retina> m4v seems to be "apple tv" 11:19:04 <clokep> aleth: Does that mean you moderated the three spam emails? :) 11:20:56 <clokep> flo-retina: http://blog.instantbird.org/2012/11/instantbird-1-3-released/comment-page-1/#comment-2346 ;) 11:21:42 <flo-retina> clokep: http://www.opennet.ru/opennews/art.shtml?num=35348 11:23:11 --> mikk_s has joined #instantbird 11:23:25 <-- mikk_s has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2 -- http://www.instantbird.com) 11:23:27 <clokep> We should update libpurple btw. 11:24:23 --> rosonline has joined #instantbird 11:26:31 --> gerard-majax has joined #instantbird 11:28:05 <clokep> flo-retina: And I'll post on my blog soon, yes. :) 11:28:29 <flo-retina> and I think I'll really need to get an en-US blog, and syndicate it on planet 11:29:18 <rosonline> clokep: I like the post about Instantbird 1.3 11:29:44 <clokep> rosonline: Thanks. 11:29:59 <rosonline> I'll write about the two new languages 11:30:11 <rosonline> russian and portuguese ( ;) ) 11:30:35 <flo-retina> russian isn't really new, it was just missing in 1.2 11:35:08 <-- Mic has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.3 -- http://www.instantbird.com) 11:35:12 <rosonline> ah, ol 11:35:14 <rosonline> ok 11:35:20 <clokep> The release announcements/notes should probably say the languages it is available in though... 11:37:56 <rosonline> I'll send the address to visualization... 11:40:37 <rosonline> http://openetherpad.org/DTewVBkONu 11:43:05 * clokep posted on his blog. 11:44:21 * clokep sighs http://blog.instantbird.org/2012/11/instantbird-1-3-released/#comments 11:44:30 <clokep> So tired of hearing about OTR, if someone wants it so bad...implement it! 11:46:19 <flo-retina> rosonline: "Instantbird", not "InstantBird" 11:46:47 * aleth wishes the Russian announcement didn't recommend the tab complete add-on 11:47:04 <flo-retina> aleth: :( 11:47:14 <aleth> Can we obsolete it on AIO? 11:48:16 <rosonline> flo-retina: thanks. I always translate Instantbird as InstantBird 11:48:41 <flo-retina> clokep: that comment about OTR isn't completely useless, it points to a JS MPL2 implementation! 11:50:13 <clokep> flo-retina: I looked at that implementation months ago and was unhappy w/ it. 11:50:37 <flo-retina> clokep: aren't we unhappy just at the mention of "OTR"? ;) 11:50:44 <clokep> Yes. :) 11:50:55 <flo-retina> clokep: and the commenter has no way to know that "I looked at that implementation months ago" ;) 11:51:21 <clokep> I know. :) 11:51:56 --> Even1 has joined #instantbird 11:52:31 <aleth> The commenter should write an add-on ;) 11:52:43 <-- Even1 has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.3a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 11:52:50 --> Even1 has joined #instantbird 11:53:02 <clokep> flo-retina: I wa smostly unhappy w/ that code btw because it does things in cross browser ways (and uses weird crypto libraries), but possibly we could rip it apart and reassembly it in a non-cross-browser way... 11:53:25 <flo-retina> aleth: looks like he intends to, he wrote "Maybe this [...] will help us eventually to bake a plugin for IB eventually." 11:55:30 * clokep doubts it. 11:55:42 <clokep> People often use "us" or "we" with OSS without any plans to contribute. 11:55:53 * clokep should stop ranting. ;) 11:56:52 <flo-retina> clokep: oh, I think he intends to do it. That doesn't mean I think he will do it. 11:57:09 <flo-retina> clokep: lots of people never get to doing the things they honnestly think they will do. 11:57:16 <clokep> True. :) 11:57:26 <clokep> So...we can talk about 1.4 now, right? :P 11:57:41 <flo-retina> you can 11:58:30 <clokep> Ah well at least someone read my blog post and tweeted about it... 11:58:36 <flo-retina> I'm afraid for me it will mean mostly getting rid of PPC/10.5, setting up the new mac build slave, updating the OS on my other macbook (which still runs 10.5), rewritting the update server, updating Mozilla, syncing the build system 11:58:43 <flo-retina> (ie nothing fun in the near future :-/) 11:59:07 <clokep> :-/ 11:59:14 <clokep> I'll try to do the Mozilla update for you. 11:59:25 <flo-retina> clokep: why no screenshot on planet mozilla? 11:59:30 <flo-retina> I only see the mathml thing there :-/ 11:59:39 <clokep> flo-retina: Because I did it quickly... 12:00:08 <flo-retina> lots of people only read when there's a shiny picture :( 12:00:16 <flo-retina> (maybe we should try to include a kitten next time? :)) 12:01:10 <flo-retina> thanks for posting anyway! :) 12:01:20 <-- clokep has quit (Ping timeout) 12:01:58 <flo-retina> oh, I also need to sync ib's chat/ with c-c again 12:02:09 <flo-retina> if possible before the next merge (happening monday or tuesday) 12:03:06 * aleth added a review to the tab complete add-on page 12:03:36 <flo-retina> should we just retire the page/add-on? 12:04:35 <aleth> Wouldn't the add-on author have to do that? 12:04:37 <flo-retina> http://www.mozilla.cz/zpravicky/instantbird-s-mensimi-zmenami/ 12:04:48 <flo-retina> ah, it's not our add-on, right 12:05:04 <flo-retina> isn't the author douglaswt h? 12:05:06 <aleth> Sadly douglaswth hasn't bumped his add-ons for a while 12:08:02 <flo-retina> aleth: the russian article also recommands Reply To Nick ;) 12:08:12 <aleth> Oh great... 12:08:43 <aleth> Sounds like someone has been using IB for a long time ;) 12:10:16 <flo-retina> he just copy pasted his 1.1 article 12:10:18 <flo-retina> or is that 1.0? 12:10:32 <aleth> 1.0 probably... 12:12:42 <flo-retina> the comments on that post are all completely stupid 12:13:02 <flo-retina> lots of them are about how ugly Windows 8 is, just because the screenshot was taken on Windows 8 12:22:49 <rosonline> aleth: Who's translated the Instantbird russian version 12:22:52 <rosonline> ? 12:23:39 <aleth> No idea - unghost maybe? 12:24:06 <rosonline> hum. 12:24:45 <rosonline> I'm writting the text to blog, and I'm talking about the translations.... 12:30:51 <aleth> someone is going to be disappointed... https://twitter.com/philsniff/status/269417011224932352 12:36:22 --> meh has joined #instantbird 12:38:08 --> clokep_work has joined #instantbird 12:38:08 * ChanServ sets mode +o clokep_work 12:39:48 <clokep_work> flo-retina: I just forwarded an interesting emails from ludo. 12:42:13 <clokep_work> flo-retina, aleth: "We" (meaning flo-retina and I) can modify other user's add-ons...if we really need to. 12:43:12 <aleth> Maybe we should bump at least the recommended add-ons (if they don't look complex) 12:44:44 <aleth> There are still people out there using IB 0.2, 1.0 and 1.1 :-S 12:44:56 <aleth> single digits, but still, daily users 12:45:13 <clokep_work> Yes, there are still people using Firefox 1. :P Not everyone updates their software. 12:45:58 <clokep_work> I was just going to request a http://queze.net/goinfre/instantbird-1.3.download-count.txt...but then I checked and the page worked. ;) 12:46:11 <aleth> I assumed 0.2 was dated Linux repos, but is there a permissions issue why 1.1 won't autoupdate for some? 12:46:58 <rosonline> flo-retina: Please, look my text and check it 12:49:00 <aleth> I suppose things might improve if/when we get the recent update improvements for FF 12:50:38 <clokep_work> Some people disable auto-updating too aleth. 12:50:54 <clokep_work> I think we don't support Win 2000 either. So some users could be stuck on a random version. 12:51:06 <aleth> Right. 12:51:27 <aleth> 1.1 would have been the last Win2k version 12:55:03 <rosonline> http://openetherpad.org/DTewVBkONu 12:55:17 <rosonline> there's a final text... 12:57:05 <clokep_work> aleth: Is bug 490 fixed now with the Show Nick stuff? 12:57:08 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=490 enh, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Use a Class for Each Buddy 12:58:54 <aleth> It depends what the goal of the bug was\. You have to look inside the ib-nick class text content to get the actual nick 12:59:50 <clokep_work> Do we have documentation of what was added? 12:59:54 <aleth> Yes 13:00:03 <clokep_work> ...where? :P 13:00:12 <aleth> https://wiki.instantbird.org/Instantbird:Message_Styles:Differences_with_Adium 13:00:18 <clokep_work> Thanks. 13:01:05 * clokep_work didn't really pay attention to those check-ins... 13:01:46 <aleth> What we have is definitely enough for a context menu on nicks for example 13:02:06 --> BlueMaxima has joined #instantbird 13:02:40 <-- jb has quit (Input/output error) 13:02:43 --> jb has joined #instantbird 13:03:13 <-- BlueMaxima has quit (Quit: Leaving) 13:04:06 <instantbot> firstname.lastname@example.org set the Resolution field on bug 490 to FIXED. 13:04:08 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=490 enh, --, ---, florian, RESO FIXED, Use a Class for Each Buddy 13:04:47 <clokep_work> aleth: The goal was to be able to be able to piece together a conversation from mentions in the text. 13:11:17 <clokep_work> rosonline: I made some changes, but it was really good overall! :) 13:12:21 <rosonline> clokep_work: Thanks for your opinion 13:15:44 <aleth> clokep_work: OK :) there were some examples in the bug, but I wasn't sure if those were actual intended projects ;) 13:15:53 <rosonline> clokep_work: In the part "clicking here" should be insert a link to translation Wiki. In the selection "it comes with new features (you can see them clicking here)", clicking here should be insert a link to release notes 13:16:02 <clokep_work> aleth: If they are, we need to file separate bugs. :P 13:16:15 <aleth> or add-ons :P 13:16:16 <clokep_work> rosonline: Yes, I figured those would be made links. :) 13:18:28 <rosonline> Yes; but I was pointed what's links 13:21:04 <clokep_work> OK. 13:26:05 <rosonline> clokep_work: I have a suggestion: An image, the Instantbird logo with speak ballons, where could be written "Hi" in various languages.... 13:26:08 * clokep_work waits for the 1.3 bugs to file in... 13:27:15 <aleth> You mean "I can't log in with my bouncer anymore!" :P 13:28:11 <clokep_work> That's one of them, yes. 13:28:27 <aleth> If that's all it'll be good... 13:33:25 <clokep_work> Yes. :) 13:52:35 <rosonline> clokep_work: Who will post my tet? 13:52:38 <rosonline> text? 13:55:31 <flo-retina> rosonline: if you want it on blog.instantbird.org, I think either clokep or me can do it. I don't know how often you intend to write new content for the blog, but if it's not very frequent, we should probably not post twice on the same day and then nothing for a month. Waiting a few days (or even a week?) would be a good idea. 13:56:59 <flo-retina> I don't know if there's an easy way to post this with you as the author, or if we should create an account for you on the blog 13:57:42 <clokep_work> flo-retina: I think we would have to create an account. 13:58:20 <-- jb has quit (Input/output error) 13:58:24 --> jb has joined #instantbird 13:58:28 <rosonline> I would like to post with regularity. For to do it, I need to some feature or ideas to post... 13:59:35 <flo-retina> posting regularly would be nice (are you thinking once a week? once a day? every other day?) 13:59:48 <flo-retina> I think we could relatively easily contribute ideas of things to talk about 14:00:06 <aleth> not daily please ;) 14:00:15 <rosonline> kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk Ok 14:00:26 <flo-retina> showing nice add-ons maybe? 14:00:39 <flo-retina> aleth: have we ever posted about the completion? 14:00:41 <rosonline> I couldn't write every day.. I'm studying yet 14:00:46 <aleth> flo-retina: yes 14:01:10 <flo-retina> aleth: I think that question shows that I definitely haven't paid enough attention to our blog :( 14:01:28 <aleth> you probably noticed at the time ;) 14:02:36 <flo-retina> aleth: sure 14:02:52 <flo-retina> aleth: but I remember more clearly spending time reviewing drafts than looking at the final post 14:03:04 <flo-retina> once it's posted, I don't have anything to do with it any more, so I quickly forget 14:03:43 <aleth> It's too hard to find old feature posts again :-/ 14:03:54 --> MMN-o_ has joined #instantbird 14:04:38 <-- MMN-o has quit (Ping timeout) 14:06:30 <clokep_work> aleth: Are they not tagged well? 14:06:47 <clokep_work> Once a week or every other week would be a good goal, I think. 14:06:49 <rosonline> My intention is to post something new every half month 14:07:23 <aleth> clokep_work: They are tagged, but to the casual website visitor that's not much use 14:07:43 <rosonline> and to response the comments/answers in all the posts.... 14:15:44 <flo-retina> rosonline: ok, that would be very appreciated I think :) 14:15:47 <-- gerard-majax has quit (Ping timeout) 14:16:04 <flo-retina> rosonline: if you are targeting "every half month" I don't think we want to post today just after the 1.3 release announcement. 14:16:34 <aleth> clokep_work: Maybe we should put the categories list somewhere on the main page as well? 14:16:58 <clokep_work> aleth: Isn't it there? 14:17:06 <aleth> Or maybe just the 'Features' tag results 14:17:27 <aleth> clokep_work: only when you click through to a blog post 14:17:38 <clokep_work> I don't think so. 14:17:57 <rosonline> flo-retina: Fine! 14:18:12 <clokep_work> aleth: On the top right side "Categories" 14:18:35 <aleth> yes, but not on http://www.instantbird.com/ 14:18:44 <clokep_work> Oh. 14:19:05 <clokep_work> The recent posts are listed right there. I think that's a reasonable amount. 14:20:22 <-- deltafalcon has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2 -- http://www.instantbird.com) 14:20:27 <aleth> Or we could somehow link to the features posts from the features page http://www.instantbird.com/features.html 14:21:10 * clokep_work just wants to work on Instantbird and doesn't care about the blog or website. :P 14:21:23 <aleth> I think that goes for all of us :P 14:28:58 <flo-retina> clokep_work: "15:21:13 * clokep_work just wants to work on Instantbird and doesn't care about the blog or website. :P" I think that's why we all have been communicating so poorly :-/. 14:34:22 <clokep_work> flo-retina: Yes...I know. :( 14:34:37 <flo-retina> clokep_work: not your fault though :) 14:39:25 <flo-retina> we need to post on freshmeat too 14:41:09 <clokep_work> I can't figure that site out, can someone else do that... 14:41:56 <flo-retina> I'll do that tonight I think 14:43:35 <rosonline> flo-retina: Who is freshmeat? 14:44:05 <flo-retina> rosonline: http://freecode.com/ 14:46:54 <rosonline> Ok. It's new for me, but I think I undestood it 14:53:06 --> mconley has joined #instantbird 15:00:13 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 15:00:13 * ChanServ sets mode +o clokep 15:01:57 <-- clokep has quit (Ping timeout) 15:03:17 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 15:03:17 * ChanServ sets mode +h Mic 15:06:44 <-- jb has quit (Input/output error) 15:06:47 --> jb has joined #instantbird 15:07:15 <-- rosonline has left #instantbird () 15:15:53 <-- unghost_work has quit (Quit: Ð£Ñ Ð¾Ð¶Ñ Ñ Ð¾Ñ Ð²Ð°Ñ (xchat 2.4.5 Ð¸Ð»Ð¸ ÑÑÐ°ÑÑÐµ)) 15:22:00 * Mic is looking into bug 1511 again and the wrappedJSObject-not-working in particular. 15:22:03 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1511 nor, --, ---, benediktp, ASSI, Possible to add duplicate accounts 15:22:36 <Mic> Could it be that it doesn't work because the accounts are implementing more than one interface? 15:23:27 <aleth> are you accessing it before it's initialized? 15:24:24 <Mic> No, I'm using the accounts as returned by Services.accounts.getAccounts() (or whatever it is called). 15:25:19 <aleth> prplAccount.wrappedJSObject doesn't work? 15:29:10 <Mic> It returns an object, yes, but it doesn't work as it just fails at other places then 15:29:15 <flo-retina> that comment in bug 1669 doesn't seem helpful :-/ 15:29:19 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1669 maj, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, Certain IRC channels cause freeze in conversation window. 15:29:47 <flo-retina> I'm confused by the "it no longer freezes" comment followed by "I stopped using Instantbird because it keeps freezing" :-S 15:29:48 <aleth> :( 15:29:56 <aleth> me too. 15:30:09 <aleth> That is one bug that was definitely harmed by not being able to get a proper log. 15:30:29 <aleth> Mic: what do you mean it "just fails"? 15:30:45 <-- Kaishi has quit (Quit: Kaishi) 15:30:55 <flo-retina> aleth: + I think we really need a try catch somewhere, so that something failing in the UI doesn't cause JS-IRC to report unhandled messages 15:32:31 <Mic> aleth: give me a moment... 15:32:32 <aleth> flo-retina: I have absolutely no idea what could have happened in that bug 15:32:48 <-- Even has quit (Ping timeout) 15:32:57 <flo-retina> comment 5 seems to say mIRC is sending junk 15:33:15 <aleth> None of that should affect the UI though :-S 15:33:48 <flo-retina> aleth: if it caused us to fail to parse a QUIT message, then when the nick re-enters the UI breaks 15:34:29 <aleth> The UI shouldn't break though, it throws instead of adding the buddy twice 15:34:39 <flo-retina> aleth: look in http://lxr.instantbird.org/instantbird/source/instantbird/content/conversation.xml#1569 15:35:37 <flo-retina> if we throw while adding buddies during a getParticipant call (we are there when restoring the conv from hold), line 1584 will never be executed 15:35:46 <Mic> aleth: hmm, I'd need to apply this patch here to get to the error message. 15:36:35 <Mic> If I recall correctly, it failed here with imAccount == null: http://lxr.instantbird.org/instantbird/source/chat/modules/jsProtoHelper.jsm#48 15:36:52 <Mic> So something's seriously going wrong then imo... 15:37:11 <aleth> Put a dump() in _init and see if it is called before the error? 15:37:51 <aleth> It does sound strange... 15:38:04 <flo-retina> aleth: I don't see any way getParticipants could return the same nick twice though, as it's using the keys of an object :-S (http://lxr.instantbird.org/instantbird/source/chat/modules/jsProtoHelper.jsm#484) 15:38:42 <flo-retina> aleth: or can we have 2 participants with the same nick, but a different key in this._participants? 15:39:04 <aleth> flo-retina: Also that issue couldn't happen after a conversation has been open for a while, which is how it looks on the screenshot 15:39:37 <flo-retina> isn't that the screenshot of a conversation just restored from hold? 15:39:52 <aleth> Those don't look like context messages to me 15:40:04 <flo-retina> why would they be? 15:40:20 <flo-retina> if the conv was on hold and had 30 unread messages that arrived while it was on hold? 15:40:24 <aleth> Right... could be 15:41:19 <aleth> I just didn't read the bug description that way. 15:41:36 <aleth> "after a variable amount of time, this channel will become "locked" in the 15:41:37 <aleth> conversation window and the tab blanks" 15:43:57 <flo-retina> "If I close the conversation window via the windows X, the channel goes to held conversations and I can recall it but am unable to pull up any other held or new conversations by any means." I assumed the screenshot was showing that part of the bug 15:44:22 <aleth> Hmm... "the tab blanks" could mean different things 15:44:27 <aleth> You're right. 15:44:52 <aleth> The actual breakage is like in that Do not Disturb bug 15:45:19 <aleth> The problem is what's causing it... 15:45:25 <flo-retina> aleth: you need to take into account that in the reviewer's words, "Doesn't seem to be freezing now" means "I stopped using Instantbird", so take everything else with a grain of salt :) 15:45:45 <aleth> Yes... and we did try to reproduce 15:45:49 <flo-retina> s/reviewer/reporter/ 15:46:06 <aleth> Though I'm sure IB never freezes if you stop using it. 15:46:16 <flo-retina> aleth: "The actual breakage is like in that Do not Disturb bug" maybe he had that add-on installed? :) 15:46:17 <aleth> Technically. 15:46:39 <flo-retina> aleth: I think "freeze" and "blank" are equivalents too for him 15:47:32 <aleth> We never asked about add-ons... 15:53:04 <aleth> this.linkedconversation not being defined sounds like a problem in registering a binding with tabbrowser 15:53:56 <aleth> well, a conversation, but you know what I mean. 15:54:09 <flo-retina> aleth: what do you think happens if we throw at http://lxr.instantbird.org/instantbird/source/instantbird/content/tabbrowser.xml#439 15:54:26 <flo-retina> ie at http://lxr.instantbird.org/instantbird/source/instantbird/content/conversation.xml#1745 15:54:42 <flo-retina> I think http://lxr.instantbird.org/instantbird/source/instantbird/content/tabbrowser.xml#449 will never execute ;) 15:54:51 <aleth> Oh, I see 15:55:12 <aleth> I missed that. I thought it was only called from updateCurrentBrowser. 15:55:42 <flo-retina> I'm almost sure we throw at http://lxr.instantbird.org/instantbird/source/instantbird/content/conversation.xml#1575 for some reason 15:58:39 <aleth> It would explain it 16:02:15 <aleth> I have no idea why it would happen though, the _participants keys are normalized 16:08:15 --> Optimizer has joined #instantbird 16:15:35 <clokep_work> Mic, flo-retina, aleth: Can't we just add it to the interface for bug 1511 and do it that way? It seems like that's the "right" way to do it. 16:15:39 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1511 nor, --, ---, benediktp, ASSI, Possible to add duplicate accounts 16:22:18 <-- groovecoder has quit (Ping timeout) 16:23:50 <-- jb has quit (Input/output error) 16:23:53 --> jb has joined #instantbird 16:25:10 <flo-retina> clokep_work: you would need a purplexpcom implementation then 16:25:23 <clokep_work> Yes. 16:29:22 --> rosonline has joined #instantbird 16:30:56 <clokep_work> Just wondering if that's the "proper" way to do it. 16:31:00 <Mic> flo-retina: it wouldn't have to do anything, would it? 16:31:26 <flo-retina> now I don't even know what you are talking about any more :( 16:34:21 --> jb1 has joined #instantbird 16:35:19 <-- jb has quit (Ping timeout) 16:40:04 <Mic> hmm, forget that, maybe... 16:43:40 <-- jb1 has quit (Connection reset by peer) 16:43:43 --> jb has joined #instantbird 16:51:10 --> jb1 has joined #instantbird 16:51:33 <-- jb has quit (Ping timeout) 16:56:37 <instantbot> email@example.com requested feedback from the wind for attachment 2092 on bug 1511. 16:56:40 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1511 nor, --, ---, benediktp, ASSI, Possible to add duplicate accounts 16:57:18 <instantbot> firstname.lastname@example.org requested feedback from florian@instantbi rd.org for attachment 2092 on bug 1511. 16:57:33 --> groovecoder has joined #instantbird 16:57:56 <aleth> That looks like a painful bug... 16:59:19 --> modris has joined #instantbird 17:00:03 <modris> i search for IM for LAN. 17:00:16 <Mic> Hello modris 17:00:38 <Mic> IM in LAN should be possible by using Bonjour if I'm not mistaken 17:01:46 <Mic> Or do you have a particular service for LAN-messaging in mind already? 17:01:53 <rosonline> One question: When is update the QQ proptocol? 17:02:50 <modris> i already find some im who design for LAN, but all that need install additional. It would be great if IM will be integrate in thunderbird mail client. (there are only public irc and messengers). 17:03:19 <modris> is i understand correct that instantbird is not integrate with thunderbird 17:04:01 <modris> and TB LDAP address book 17:05:47 <aleth> modris: Have you tried the extra protocols add-on for TB? https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/additional-chat-protocols/ 17:05:48 <modris> for me important is that users dont use public irc for not-work only inside lan or only between coleques inside organization 17:06:22 <Mic> Thunderbird uses parts of Instantbird's program code for chatting. How or how well it integrates with Thunderbird isn't directly related to the Instantbird project, though. 17:06:40 <aleth> modris: If I understand you right, you don't want to use Instantbird, only TB? 17:07:11 <modris> ops, for default in TB i got irc, faceb,google, twiter... 17:07:13 <-- rosonline has quit (Quit: Experimentem Instantbird 1.2 -- http://www.instantbird.com) 17:07:18 --> rosonline has joined #instantbird 17:07:20 <modris> i check out that addon 17:07:36 <modris> thank all, for now 17:20:03 <modris> Mic: not, bonjour use external servers and high port connection, that is not for me... 17:21:09 <aleth> What protocol do you mean for "LAN" then? 17:21:20 <modris> in with chanal i can ask complicate q about firebird integrate chat feature? 17:21:41 <aleth> #maildev for TB-specific issues 17:21:55 <aleth> But you can't just ask for "LAN", you need to tell us which protocol you want to use ;) 17:21:59 <modris> aleth: i hope something that don't go outside from lan (private subnets) 17:22:26 <aleth> modris: I understand that part - but it still uses some protocol or standard 17:22:36 <modris> excuse - my english is not good 17:22:55 <aleth> For example you could have a local XMPP server, then nothing would have to go outside ;) 17:23:02 <aleth> We support that... 17:24:01 <modris> ok, maybe i start understand you 17:24:18 <aleth> If you are chatting over LAN, you are still using some protocol 17:24:24 <modris> before i think about something like http://www.r2.com.au/page/products/show/tonic but integrate in thunderbird 17:24:37 <modris> aleth: yes You are right 17:25:41 <flo-retina> modris: the bonjour protocol doesn't use any server 17:25:44 <modris> try this tonic... it-s wonder me, simple and work like charm out of box 17:26:14 <flo-retina> modris: and it's restricted to the local network. 17:26:25 <modris> flo-retina: hmm... ok, maybe then i need just sleep and dig deeper bounjour chat in TB 17:27:50 <-- Even1 has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.3a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 17:28:48 --> wesj1 has joined #instantbird 17:30:01 <modris> flo-retina: i start TB chat function with bonjour. and get that i need bonjor toolkit for windows. i dont use before anything from that, but is that not gateway for users to get outside (i gess only) 17:30:31 <flo-retina> advice: stop guessing, and start googling when you don't know what you are talking about. 17:30:40 <modris> try this toolkit and hope then get clear about all this, excuse about my dumb q 17:31:00 <aleth> modris: For info about bonjour wikipedia is your friend ;) 17:31:23 <flo-retina> and whatever I would answer to your question is completely irrelevant to you, as you already ignored my previous answer. 17:34:03 <aleth> modris: Tonic is likely Windows-only, and possibly XP-only 17:34:15 <rosonline> aleth: When ther QQ protocol is updated? 17:34:35 <aleth> rosonline: I have no idea. 17:34:58 <aleth> Don't we get it from libpurple? 17:35:02 <flo-retina> rosonline: If nobody starts working on it, we should probably just remove that broken plugin. 17:35:11 <flo-retina> aleth: no, libpurple dropped it a while ago because it was broken 17:35:35 <flo-retina> aleth: we moved on to a less broken version we got from http://code.google.com/p/libqq-pidgin/ 17:36:04 <-- jb1 has quit (Quit: jb1) 17:36:17 <flo-retina> oh wait, it's been updated in september 2012! 17:36:20 <aleth> OK, thanks 17:36:35 <flo-retina> clokep_work: we should see if they have a version that actually works 17:37:06 <aleth> looks promising 17:37:19 <aleth> "apply patch for new QQ version support" etc 17:37:28 --> Mook_as has joined #instantbird 17:37:32 <Mic> bye! 17:38:03 * Mic hopes Mook didn't take that as a greeting ;) 17:38:15 <-- Mic has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.3a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 17:39:27 <rosonline> I filled a bug with the error: It is warning to update the QQ version... 17:40:00 <aleth> yes, we saw the bug 17:40:42 <Mook_as> well, yeah, it's missing "Name" and "Job" ;) 17:42:39 * flo-retina doesn't know what Mook_as is talking about 17:48:48 <aleth> BlackSheep is using mIRC, and _every single message_ isn't UTF8 :-/ 17:50:00 <clokep_work> flo-retina: Yes, we can update that. SOmeone file a bug and assign to me? :P 17:50:51 <flo-retina> rosonline already filed the bug ;) 17:51:05 <flo-retina> aleth: do you care if you are using Instantbird? 17:51:10 <clokep_work> It is vague. ;) 17:51:23 <aleth> flo-retina: not particularly, but it is spamming my console ;) 17:51:36 * aleth mutters something about mIRC 17:51:50 <flo-retina> aleth: isn't it awesome that even in the case of messed up character encoding, it just works? ;) 17:52:03 <flo-retina> aleth: if it really annoys you, you could tell him to go fix his settings 17:52:14 <aleth> flo-retina: It really doesn't annoy me 17:52:40 <aleth> though of course he should switch clients ;) 17:53:06 <flo-retina> aleth: feel free to tell him if you think there are better IRC clients than mIRC 17:53:34 * groovecoder is now known as groovecoder|food 17:54:01 <flo-retina> aleth: Jb will not like if during my work time I tell people who I'm supposed to encourage to contribute to my paid work to get instantbird ;) 17:54:17 <aleth> right ;) 17:55:21 <Mook_as> okay, tell them to use thunderbird for IRC, then ;) 17:55:48 <clokep_work> flo-retina: Looks like a bunch of changes were made from Jun through Sep this year, yes. 17:55:50 <aleth> Mook_as: I'm not sure TB has a different status to IB any more these days ;) 17:55:58 <aleth> Well, a little. 17:56:12 <-- rosonline has quit (Ping timeout) 17:57:06 <flo-retina> Mook_as: I guess I can still do that until Tuesday :-D 17:58:13 --> rosonline has joined #instantbird 17:58:39 <clokep_work> rosonline: What bug did you file about updating QQ? 18:00:33 <rosonline> this bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1798 18:00:36 <instantbot> Bug 1798 nor, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, Error while connects to QQ account 18:01:05 * clokep_work guesses that Tonic thign is just Bonjour underneath. ;) 18:01:37 <aleth> Didn't there use to be a built in XP messenger service thing that was abused for spam? 18:01:42 <aleth> That was my guess... 18:02:24 <clokep_work> Yes. 18:02:29 <clokep_work> netsend 18:02:54 <flo-retina> clokep_work: I wouldn't be surprised if they had a proprietary protocol for that tonic thing 18:05:21 <clokep_work> rosonline: Thanks. I'll look at that tonight (assuming I don't need to repull the repo...) 18:05:33 <clokep_work> flo-retina: Maybe. There's a lot of crappy LAN based protocols around... 18:05:46 <flo-retina> s/LAN based // 18:05:46 * aleth wonders if even is making 64bit Linux builds ;) 18:05:55 <flo-retina> aleth: why not? 18:06:21 <aleth> flo-retina: Oh, has he already? 18:06:38 <flo-retina> aleth: what's the question? 18:06:43 <flo-retina> he does everyday 18:07:04 <aleth> flo-retina: really? I didn't realize they were nightlies 18:07:13 <flo-retina> they aren't uploaded anywhere 18:08:43 <clokep_work> Would it make sense to officially support them btw? 18:08:51 <clokep_work> (Is it "more work" or just a matter of disk space, etc.?) 18:09:54 <flo-retina> mostly a matter of disk space and bandwith 18:10:04 <clokep_work> Alright. 18:10:06 <flo-retina> I think we will support them eventually 18:10:09 * clokep_work doesn't care either way. ;) 18:10:17 <clokep_work> aleth might. :P 18:10:20 <flo-retina> would be nice to finally migrate to the newer faster server 18:11:12 <modris> flo-retina: thank all for support - bonjour work in TB as i need, just need install bonjour for windows toolkit on all pc before use it... 18:12:26 <-- rosonline has quit (Quit: Experimentem Instantbird 1.2 -- http://www.instantbird.com) 18:12:50 <clokep_work> Great. :) 18:12:54 * clokep_work is glad someone is using that. ;) 18:15:05 <flo-retina> clokep_work: :) 18:15:10 --> rosonline has joined #instantbird 18:15:36 <-- flo-retina has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.3 -- http://www.instantbird.com) 18:27:39 <-- Optimizer has quit (Ping timeout) 18:31:13 <clokep_work> Nightly builds are off right now, right? 18:50:26 <-- wesj1 has quit (Quit: wesj1) 18:57:27 --> unghost has joined #instantbird 19:03:17 --> wesj1 has joined #instantbird 19:03:30 <wesj1> mfinklemeeting ping? 19:04:03 <Mook_as> wesj1: I don't think he's in this channel 19:04:18 <Mook_as> (also, review my (unrelated) patch :p ) 19:24:00 <instantbot> New Instantbird (UI) bug 1800 filed by email@example.com. 19:24:02 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1800 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Exception on opening "show all protocols" page 19:30:36 <clokep_work> aleth: That's a lame 1800 bug. :P 19:30:55 <aleth> clokep_work: quick, file another 100! :P 19:38:10 * clokep_work wonders what the unrelated patch is. ;) 19:40:48 <Mook_as> oh, that was... dumping files on osx desktop in one of firefox's download manager tests, or something 19:41:50 <clokep_work> Nothing interesting. :) 19:41:57 <aleth> clokep_work: bug 2000 will probably end up being something like "unhandled irc message 934: ERR_INCORRECT_HYPHENATION" ... 19:42:53 <clokep_work> aleth: Is that a real error message? :( 19:43:02 <aleth> I hope not :P 19:45:12 * aleth wonders if bug 1800 is just Bonjour dying on init? 19:45:15 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1800 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Exception on opening "show all protocols" page 20:00:51 <-- wesj1 has quit (Quit: wesj1) 20:10:47 <instantbot> firstname.lastname@example.org requested review from email@example.com for attachment 2093 on bug 1800. 20:10:49 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1800 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Exception on opening "show all protocols" page 20:14:57 <aleth> Not sure if there is a reason we should keep the original error, but hey. 20:16:48 <clokep_work> I'll look at it at home. 20:18:02 <aleth> The alternative would be Bonjour throwing something more useful, that's why I r?'d it to you 20:18:16 <clokep_work> Yeah, yeah... 20:21:01 <-- clokep_work has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.3a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 20:39:06 * groovecoder|food is now known as groovecoder 21:00:03 --> jb has joined #instantbird 21:19:54 --> Kaishi has joined #instantbird 21:28:44 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 21:28:44 * ChanServ sets mode +o clokep 21:29:09 --> DGMurdockIII has joined #instantbird 21:47:10 --> Even has joined #instantbird 21:47:11 * ChanServ sets mode +o Even 22:02:51 <aleth> minus the angry language, still a precedent http://www.marco.org/2012/11/16/twitter-being-a-dick-again 22:03:36 <aleth> better link here http://www.windowsobserver.com/?p=17250 22:04:35 <aleth> well, complementary 22:07:45 <clokep> Mmhmm. 22:10:24 <aleth> there's another client that has made itself quite expensive so as to not exceed the user limit 22:23:50 <-- rosonline has quit (Client exited) 22:25:04 <clokep> :-S updating libqq made a bunch of line ending changes. 22:26:05 <-- mconley has quit (Input/output error) 22:28:08 <-- jb has quit (Ping timeout) 22:33:56 <instantbot> New Core - XMPP bug 1801 filed by firstname.lastname@example.org. 22:33:58 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1801 nor, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, Logon failure when password contain russian (unicode?) symbols 22:49:18 <-- unghost has quit (Input/output error) 22:57:35 <-- groovecoder has quit (Ping timeout) 23:05:32 --> flo-retina has joined #instantbird 23:05:32 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo-retina flo-retina 23:06:24 <flo-retina> aleth: so is bug 1801 FIXED or WONTFIX? ;) 23:06:28 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1801 nor, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, Logon failure when password contains russian (unicode?) symbols 23:07:39 <aleth> Dunno... 23:08:23 <aleth> Have a look at that line I pointed at for JS-XMPP though, it might still need fixing (unless there is no unicode any more at that point) 23:13:30 <flo-retina> aleth: see the first patch in bug 1203 23:13:33 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1203 maj, --, 1.2, florian, RESO FIXED, No longer able to log into Facebook Chat via Instantbird since patches enabling JS XMPP 23:14:25 <aleth> Ah OK :) 23:14:40 <aleth> maybe with luck we can switch to JS-XMPP for 1.4 anyway ;) 23:15:48 <flo-retina> the line you pointed to doesn't touch the password anyway 23:16:34 <aleth> I really just lxr'd for btoa, I don't know that part of the code at all. Just unicode in btoa came up in the IRC SASL patch. 23:17:04 <flo-retina> when working on bug 1203, I assumed the guy had a non-ascii character in his password, tested that (I changed the password of my test facebook account to have an accent), it failed (yes! I could reproduce! :)), I fixed it... and then I noticed that the libpurple prpl failed with that password too, so that couldn't be the regression the user was complaining about... 23:17:08 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1203 maj, --, 1.2, florian, RESO FIXED, No longer able to log into Facebook Chat via Instantbird since patches enabling JS XMPP 23:17:23 <aleth> and now it becomes clear ;) 23:17:58 <aleth> that there is nothing to be done unless we decide to patch libpurple 23:18:50 <aleth> Good to know JS-XMPP works well there already though :) 23:18:59 <-- aleth has quit (Input/output error) 23:23:28 <flo-retina> memoserv told me "You have 2 new memos." 23:23:50 <flo-retina> and when I typed "LIST NEW", I saw they were numbered 2 and 3 23:23:55 <flo-retina> I wondered why it wasn't 1 23:24:16 <flo-retina> when I typed "READ 1", it printed "Memo 1 from clokep (Sep 13 11:37:37 2011 PDT)." 23:24:32 <flo-retina> (I had never seen that message :-|) 23:25:12 <clokep> flo-retina: That's unfortunate. :( 23:29:49 <flo-retina> it took me a few seconds to figure out what you were talking about ;) 23:29:52 <flo-retina> until I saw the date 23:51:48 <-- flo-retina has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.3 -- http://www.instantbird.com) 23:56:45 <-- clokep has quit (Ping timeout)