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00:18:55 <-- Optimizer has quit (Ping timeout) 00:21:17 * clokep finally got his test running... 00:22:01 <clokep> Oh wait...now I have to actually write the test cases? :P That's no fun! 00:24:19 --> Optimizer has joined #instantbird 00:44:20 <-- jb has quit (Quit: jb) 00:44:52 --> jb has joined #instantbird 00:55:38 <-- jb has quit (Ping timeout) 00:57:00 <instantbot> clokep@gmail.com requested review from florian@instantbird .org for attachment 2024 on bug 1712. 00:57:03 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1712 enh, --, ---, clokep, ASSI, Send long IRC messages in several parts 01:02:12 <-- Mook_as has quit (Quit: Mook_as) 01:23:04 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/110a690ad94a - aleth - Bug 1747 - _originalMsg property not set on message following unread ruler when rejoining bubbles, r=fqueze. 01:23:05 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/9699eed2d58d - Patrick Cloke - Bug 1733 - Remove purpleStorage, r=fqueze. 01:24:33 <instantbot> clokep@gmail.com set the Resolution field on bug 1733 to FIXED. 01:24:38 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1733 min, --, 1.3, clokep, RESO FIXED, Remove purpleStorage 01:25:03 <instantbot> clokep@gmail.com set the Resolution field on bug 1747 to FIXED. 01:25:06 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1747 nor, --, 1.3, aletheia2, RESO FIXED, _originalMsg property not set on message following unread ruler when rejoining bubbles 01:25:47 --> jb has joined #instantbird 01:25:48 <-- jb has quit (Input/output error) 01:26:09 --> jb has joined #instantbird 01:42:37 <instant-buildbot> build #337 of linux-onCommit is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/linux-onCommit/builds/337 02:02:45 <-- Optimizer has quit (Ping timeout) 02:18:13 <-- DGMurdockIII has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.89 [Firefox 17.0/20121023124120]) 02:30:28 <-- jb 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#instantbird 08:59:16 --> FeuerFliege has joined #instantbird 09:00:59 --> micahg has joined #instantbird 09:27:32 <-- gerard-majax_ has quit (Ping timeout) 09:35:09 <-- Optimizer has quit (Ping timeout) 09:49:37 <-- micahg has quit (Ping timeout) 10:08:27 <-- skeledrew has quit (Ping timeout) 10:12:22 <-- Mic has quit (Ping timeout) 10:13:38 --> micahg has joined #instantbird 10:16:38 --> Optimizer has joined #instantbird 10:17:25 --> gerard-majax_ has joined #instantbird 10:19:45 --> skeledrew has joined #instantbird 10:20:17 <clokep> Looks like the drive is out of space for nightlies? :_/ 10:27:58 <-- FeuerFliege has quit (Ping timeout) 10:44:25 <-- micahg has quit (Ping timeout) 10:47:53 <-- clokep has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.3a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 10:47:56 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 10:47:56 * ChanServ sets mode +o clokep 10:50:53 --> jb has joined #instantbird 10:53:13 <flo> it's sad that it happens on this day :-S 10:57:25 <clokep> I agree. :-/ 10:57:34 <clokep> This happened last year too. 10:57:36 <-- clokep has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.3a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 10:57:38 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 10:57:38 * ChanServ sets mode +o clokep 10:58:50 <clokep> (I think.) 10:59:12 <clokep> Also, whenever builds fail and I touched C++ code, I immediately assume it was my fault. :-D 10:59:14 <instantbot> c++ is e-- ah, nevermind. 10:59:23 <clokep> Glad this wasn't! 11:04:20 <flo> the mac oncommit failure is strange (but doesn't matter) 11:10:44 <-- Optimizer has quit (Ping timeout) 11:13:54 --> Optimizer has joined #instantbird 11:19:40 <-- clokep has quit (Ping timeout) 11:21:01 --> meh has joined #instantbird 11:32:13 --> FeuerFliege has joined #instantbird 11:33:52 <-- Optimizer has quit (Ping timeout) 11:35:15 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 11:35:15 * ChanServ sets mode +h Mic 11:39:11 --> Optimizer1 has joined #instantbird 11:49:49 <-- Mic has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.3a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 11:50:09 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Ah, I didn't even think of those. But probably. :) 12:20:10 <florian1> she works for "betterinstaller.com" ;) 12:27:40 <-- jb has quit (Ping timeout) 12:35:08 <-- Mic has quit (Ping timeout) 12:36:26 * clokep_work marks as spam. 12:50:39 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 12:50:39 * ChanServ sets mode +h Mic 12:55:19 <-- FeuerFliege has quit (Ping timeout) 12:55:33 <-- Mic has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.3a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 12:55:37 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 12:55:38 * ChanServ sets mode +h Mic 13:01:28 <Mic> flo, you're no showing the founder-icon for me at the moment while I'm sure I saw it today already. Did you do something 'special' or do we have a bug somewhere maybe? 13:01:37 <Mic> *not 13:04:37 <clokep_work> Mic: It only shows if flo joins after you. 13:04:45 * clokep_work sees it on florian1 but not on flo right now. 13:04:54 * clokep_work just pings eveyrone in the channel. ;) 13:05:38 <florian1> Mic: what clokep_work said:) 13:06:09 <florian1> Is anybody working on the "Use of Mutation Events is deprecated. Use MutationObserver instead." warnings? They are noisy. 13:06:22 <Mic> ... sounds like an 'interesting' behaviour ;) 13:07:12 <clokep_work> Mic: So when a new user joins, they join and then we get a mode message telling us what modes they have (i.e. +oq for fl o). 13:07:32 <clokep_work> Mic: But when /we/ join a room, their mode is sent to use a prefix (e.g. @fl o). 13:07:39 <clokep_work> @ = +o 13:08:36 <Mic> OK, so there's incomplete information when we join... 13:08:44 <Mic> ... is there something we can do about that? 13:09:56 <clokep_work> There's an extension called NAMESX which will send "all" user modes when someone joins. 13:09:59 <clokep_work> I'm unsure if that includes founder. 13:10:14 <clokep_work> We have no bug about it though if you want to file one. 13:10:34 <Mic> OK, I'll file one. 13:12:07 <clokep_work> Thanks. :) 13:12:16 * clokep_work goes to look up documentation... 13:18:27 <clokep_work> http://wiki.inspircd.org/Modules/2.1/namesx for the interested... 13:20:44 * clokep_work thinks this is like an 15 line change btw. 13:25:27 <instantbot> New Core - IRC bug 1748 filed by benediktp@ymail.com. 13:25:29 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1748 enh, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Add NAMESX support (to get all user modes of someone instead of just one) 13:30:19 --> jb has joined #instantbird 13:31:38 <clokep_work> Thanks Mic. 13:35:33 <florian1> clokep_work: do we know if moznet/freenode support NAMESX? 13:35:50 <clokep_work> florian1: Both do. 13:35:52 <clokep_work> IIRC. 13:35:56 <florian1> cool :) 13:38:01 <clokep_work> Yup. Freenode's requires CAP to be supported first though. 13:38:04 --> mconley has joined #instantbird 13:38:06 <clokep_work> They send it as "multi-prefix" instead of NAMESX. 13:42:19 <clokep_work> Someone want to do me a favor and ping irc.atheme.org? 13:45:01 <Mic> "Couldn't find host" 13:46:00 <florian1> same here ("ping: cannot resolve irc.atheme.org: Unknown host") 13:46:51 <clokep_work> OK, not just my ISP then. 13:46:53 <clokep_work> THanks. :) 13:57:19 <clokep_work> florian1: Just saw a nice NSS error message abou ta cert. :) 13:57:42 <florian1> is "nice" ironical? 13:57:48 <florian1> it's rarely pleasing to have a cert error 13:58:31 <clokep_work> florian1: It was nice instead of just "Can't connect". :-D Told me that the cert was out of date. 14:03:38 <florian1> :) 14:26:51 <-- Mic has quit (Ping timeout) 14:29:56 --> micahg has joined #instantbird 14:30:36 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 14:30:36 * ChanServ sets mode +h Mic 14:37:11 --> jb1 has joined #instantbird 14:37:16 <-- jb has quit (Connection reset by peer) 14:37:22 <-- jb1 has quit (Input/output error) 14:42:09 --> jb has joined #instantbird 14:45:21 <florian1> I'm wondering how much of chat/ I could reuse for a Social API provider adding XMPP support to Firefox. 14:46:10 <florian1> I'm a bit worried that the way we handle contacts may be way too complicated. And the blist.sqlite with synchronous SQL queries really sucks :-/. 14:48:18 <florian1> I don't think supporting MUCs in the small floating Social API chat windows makes sense, so there's probably not much value in supporting IRC. 14:48:32 <florian1> I'm not sure if I care about multi-account support or not. 14:48:40 <florian1> if I don't, our handling of accounts is probably overkill too. 14:50:46 <florian1> I wonder how much JS-XMPP relies on the APIs implemented by imContacts.js 14:53:40 <florian1> I'm not volunteering to do that right now (nor soon), but how would you all feel about getting rid of blist.sqlite, and rewriting (parts of) imContacts.js to use an asynchronously written JSON cache file instead? 14:57:11 <florian1> (it's probably at least the third time that I think our chat/ core would be in a better shape after that change) 14:58:31 <clokep_work> florian1: So using a JS object as a database, essentially? 14:58:52 <florian1> maybe one JS object for each table we currently have in SQLite 14:59:08 <florian1> like one JS object for tags, one for accounts, one for contacts, ... 14:59:19 <-- micahg has quit (Ping timeout) 14:59:26 <clokep_work> Hmm....I wouldn't be opposed to that, as long as we can easily and quickly do the queries we currently do. 14:59:40 <clokep_work> "10:48:32 AM - florian1: I'm not sure if I care about multi-account support or not." I'm not sure what is meant by this. 14:59:53 <florian1> clokep_work: I think it would be faster, as everything would always be in memory. 15:00:02 <florian1> so no disk I/O penalty 15:00:13 <clokep_work> Ah, I guess I wasn't thinking we did disk I/O every time. 15:00:44 <florian1> clokep_work: I'm looking at building a demo Social API provider implementing XMPP (and then will try to add jingle support there for voice & video in JS-XMPP). 15:01:01 <florian1> clokep_work: and I'm not sure if I care about the user being able to configure & connect several XMPP accounts at once. 15:01:30 <florian1> clokep_work: we usually don't do it every time. But there are a few corner cases that still require disk I/O (and that were frowned upon by Tb reviewers ;)) 15:01:54 <clokep_work> florian1: Ah, I see...is the overhead of supporting multiple accounts that unreasonable? 15:02:02 <clokep_work> Doesn't the core mostly handle that without changes? 15:02:06 <clokep_work> I don't see how it would be in your way, I guess. 15:02:20 <florian1> I need an account manager UI 15:02:38 <florian1> (which can obviously be copied from Instantbird if I don't mind having dialogs) 15:02:55 <florian1> (that's what I did for my "Presence in Firefox" experiment a few months ago) 15:02:59 <clokep_work> (Or you can copy from IB, remove the awful dialogs and upstream it? :P) 15:03:16 <florian1> I'm more or less trying to do the same thing again, but with the UI integrated into social API, and then to use it as a base for WebRTC experiments 15:03:28 <clokep_work> If it is easier to just allow multiple accounts because of code re-use...seems like you should just go w/ it. 15:03:52 <florian1> I'm now considering taking the whole blist.xul/js (almost) as is :-D 15:04:07 <florian1> I couldn't for the previous experiment because I was supposed to display the list of "interesting" contacts in a popup 15:04:14 --> wesj1 has joined #instantbird 15:04:16 <florian1> but now I have the whole Social API sidebar... 15:04:42 <clokep_work> Do it. :) 15:04:58 <florian1> that will look so much like "Instantbird in Social API" :-P 15:05:12 <florian1> except it would only support XMPP without MUCs 15:05:26 * clokep_work thinks Mic asked about this once http://ircv3.atheme.org/extensions/account-notify-3.1 15:06:30 <florian1> seems interesting :) 15:06:42 <florian1> (as long as I'm not the one supposed to implement support for it :-P) 15:09:40 <clokep_work> Of course not. That will end up being me. :P 15:10:04 <clokep_work> florian1: So I'm not sure exactly what you're going for, but it seems to me that if you can get multiple XMPP accounts for free, I don't see the "bad" part of that. 15:10:30 <florian1> confusing UX 15:14:07 <-- wesj1 has quit (Quit: wesj1) 15:15:02 --> wesj1 has joined #instantbird 15:16:11 * clokep_work thinks people need to get smarter. :P 15:16:25 --> micahg has joined #instantbird 15:16:31 <florian1> clokep_work: right, they really need to learn to use IRC in telnet 15:16:35 <florian1> ;) 15:16:53 <-- wesj1 has quit (Quit: wesj1) 15:17:15 <clokep_work> florian1: Not what I was suggesting. :P But having multiple accounts doesn't seem too strenuous... 15:23:15 <clokep_work> But besides UI stuff (which is instantbird/ not chat/), I'd hope you could reuse all of chat/... 15:25:42 * clokep_work is being told that generally the extensions in RFC 2812 are a "bad idea"... (o_O) 15:26:44 <florian1> clokep_work: I hope that the parts that can't be reused as is can be fixed so that they can be shared anyway. 15:28:38 <-- florian1 has quit (Input/output error) 15:28:39 --> florian1 has joined #instantbird 15:30:02 <clokep_work> :) 15:36:04 --> rosonline has joined #instantbird 15:44:11 <clokep_work> Is it worth bumping Instantbird to the Firefox 16.0.2 release tag? 15:59:18 <florian1> why not? 16:00:00 <clokep_work> Someone needs to write the patch. ;) 16:01:42 <-- micahg has quit (Ping timeout) 16:18:18 <-- Optimizer1 has quit (Ping timeout) 16:26:01 <Mic> clokep_work: do you prefer one of the checks regarding containsNick/isMentioned-check in bug 1728? 16:26:06 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1728 enh, --, ---, benediktp, NEW, Show mentions of tracked keywords in own conversations 16:29:26 <clokep_work> Mic: So Twitter actually tells us if we're mentioned in the user_mentions entities, correct? Seems to make sense to use that one. 16:36:06 <-- jb has quit (Ping timeout) 16:37:14 <Mic> clokep_work: what does the prpl-specific loglevel pref name look like again? 16:37:28 <Mic> I thought is were purple.debug.loglevel.twitter but it didn't seem to work :( 16:39:46 --> Mook_as has joined #instantbird 16:43:09 <Mic> Works now. 16:49:37 --> jb has joined #instantbird 16:50:02 --> Optimizer has joined #instantbird 17:21:10 --> Kaishi has joined #instantbird 17:23:25 --> FeuerFliege has joined #instantbird 17:30:56 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 17:30:56 * ChanServ sets mode +h aleth 17:32:46 <aleth> bad luck - no special nightly :-/ 17:33:12 <florian1> ah, I need to fix that today! 17:44:45 --> DGMurdockIII has joined #instantbird 17:54:36 <-- Optimizer has quit (Ping timeout) 17:57:04 <-- rosonline has quit (Ping timeout) 17:57:52 --> Optimizer has joined #instantbird 17:58:32 <clokep_work> Mic: Did you hae to restart? 17:58:59 <Mic> Sorry, I don't understand? 17:59:29 <clokep_work> 12:37:29 PM - Mic: I thought is were purple.debug.loglevel.twitter but it didn't seem to work :( / 12:43:10 PM - Mic: Works now. 18:00:01 <-- gerard-majax_ has quit (Ping timeout) 18:00:40 <Mic> I don't remember but it can well be that I did. 18:00:46 <clokep_work> Ah OK. 18:00:48 <clokep_work> Was just curious. :) 18:01:39 <Mook_as> hmm, it's _supposed_ to have a pref observer... 18:06:12 <instantbot> New Instantbird (UI) bug 1749 filed by spangler.robert@gmail.com. 18:06:19 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1749 maj, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, Accessibility broken with screen reading software used by the blind 18:13:01 <-- DGMurdockIII has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.89 [Firefox 17.0/20121023124120]) 18:13:18 --> Mnyromyr has joined #instantbird 18:15:35 <-- Kaishi has quit (Input/output error) 18:16:37 <clokep_work> florian1: Doh, I knew I had another point on that bug... 18:17:22 <florian1> your reply was nicer than mine (I basically just thought "this is nonsense" when reading that comment, and had to wait a few seconds before replying to him :)) 18:17:45 <clokep_work> Mic: That patch looks pretty good. :) 18:17:49 <clokep_work> I think I have a couple of nits, but besides that.... 18:18:04 <clokep_work> It'd be nice if the search API returned what keywords were found in it, eh? :( 18:19:01 <clokep_work> Do you want those as an r- or is there more you want to do? 18:19:19 <-- FeuerFliege has quit (Ping timeout) 18:27:31 --> FeuerFliege has joined #instantbird 18:44:23 --> gerard-majax_ has joined #instantbird 18:46:09 <-- gerard-majax_ has quit (Ping timeout) 18:46:49 * aleth is surprised by the problems described in that screen reader bug 18:47:05 <aleth> Those seem like they would be issues with standard XUL controls 18:50:17 <instantbot> clokep@gmail.com granted feedback for attachment 2025 on bug 1728. 18:50:19 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1728 enh, --, ---, benediktp, NEW, Show mentions of tracked keywords in own conversations 18:50:19 <clokep_work> aleth: Yes... 18:51:03 --> micahg has joined #instantbird 18:52:01 <aleth> clokep_work: Should "Show each tracked keyword..." be "Show results for each tracked keyword..." for clarity, or is it obvious enough? 18:53:40 --> gerard-majax_ has joined #instantbird 18:55:17 <clokep_work> aleth: That's getting pretty long then... 18:55:31 <aleth> Yes :-/ 18:56:57 <aleth> The word 'tracked' could be dropped in both cases. 18:59:39 <-- jb has quit (Ping timeout) 19:00:14 <aleth> Whoa, that throwing-all-jsm's-together patch is pretty drastic... Does not affect FF (or us) at all though right? 19:00:49 --> DGMurdockIII has joined #instantbird 19:01:05 * Mic should fix his editor :S 19:01:46 <Mic> The "." mentioned in your feedback are perfectly aligned there but the column count is different. Maybe using a different font could fix that ... 19:02:14 <aleth> Mic: You use a proportional font for editing code? o_O 19:04:03 <Mic> No, but it seems that the bold font that it uses for keywork isn't handled nicely. 19:04:08 <Mic> +keywords 19:05:43 <aleth> That's unfortunate :( 19:06:07 <-- FeuerFliege has quit (Ping timeout) 19:06:46 <clokep_work> Mic: Ah, yeah. bold fonts aren't good in editing... What editor do you use? 19:06:55 * clokep_work thinks Mook_as could suggest one... ;) 19:07:32 <Mic> Notepad2 19:08:59 <clokep_work> Ah, I see. 19:10:09 --> FeuerFliege has joined #instantbird 19:10:53 <Mook_as> if I'm finding the right project, that looks scintilla-based as well 19:12:07 <Mook_as> also, what's with you and using software written by people named Florian? :p 19:13:32 <Mic> Mook_as: sounds like the right one 19:13:56 <clokep_work> I had used Notepad2 at some point, I found it...'s lack of faith disturbing? 19:14:10 <clokep_work> (Totally off topic, but Disney bought Lucasfilm, not sure if I should laugh or die.) 19:14:22 <Mook_as> die laughing. 19:15:20 <clokep_work> (And Episode 7 in 2015.) 19:15:54 <aleth> Star Wars is a bit of a zombie at this point. 19:16:50 <aleth> Though they could probably do a 'reboot' and start over :P 19:17:46 <Mic> aleth: sure, just hand it over to J.J. Abrams and this will happen on its own :P 19:18:14 <Mic> He's got lots of experience, he successfully *$%&$%& up Star Trek already ;) 19:21:02 <clokep_work> Mic: Don't worry about inlining it if it look sugly. 19:21:05 <clokep_work> looks ugly. 19:21:07 <clokep_work> Just asking. :) 19:24:17 <Mic> bye 19:24:23 <-- Mic has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.3a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 19:28:07 --> jb has joined #instantbird 19:34:18 <-- jb has quit (Ping timeout) 19:38:31 <-- Mnyromyr has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [SeaMonkey 1.1.19/2010030105]) 19:41:04 --> jb has joined #instantbird 19:48:15 --> EionRobb has joined #instantbird 20:13:32 <-- meh has quit (Quit: I don't want to live on this planet anymore.) 20:21:45 <-- Optimizer has quit (Ping timeout) 20:24:40 --> mikk_s has joined #instantbird 20:39:17 --> Kaishi has joined #instantbird 20:49:52 --> FireFly_TB has joined #instantbird 20:50:43 <-- FeuerFliege has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.3a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 20:59:14 <-- mikk_s has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2 -- http://www.instantbird.com) 21:01:09 <-- aleth has quit (Input/output error) 21:01:11 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 21:01:11 * ChanServ sets mode +h aleth 21:14:48 --> mikk_s has joined #instantbird 21:16:16 <-- clokep_work has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.3a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 21:17:17 <-- mikk_s has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2 -- http://www.instantbird.com) 21:22:42 <-- mconley has quit (Input/output error) 21:23:48 <-- DGMurdockIII has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.89 [Firefox 17.0/20121023124120]) 21:38:38 <florian1> I can't find the 2008 nightlies 21:38:50 <florian1> anybody remember where I put them the last time we were out of disk space? 21:39:01 <florian1> (I would like to put the 2009 nightlies with them...) 21:41:59 <instantbot> aletheia2@fastmail.fm denied review for attachment 2021 on bug 1573. 21:42:02 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1573 enh, --, ---, clokep, ASSI, Support SASL for IRC 21:44:10 <flo> ahah "2012-07-30.110423+0200.json:89:{"date":"2012-07-30T16:40:08.000Z","who":"flo","text":"I moved the 2008 nightlies too http://queze.net/goinfre/ftp.instantbird.org/nightly/2008/","flags":["outgoing"]}" 21:44:14 <flo> what a stupid place 21:46:26 <florian1> the even more stupid thing is that I've only got 12GB available there 21:47:57 <florian1> the 2009 folder weights 34GB 21:49:52 <aleth> Do those years even have to be online anymore? 21:56:15 <-- jb has quit (Connection reset by peer) 21:57:42 <-- micahg has quit (Ping timeout) 21:58:07 <florian1> aleth: maybe not really. But I dislike when things that have been online disappear for no reason. 21:59:40 <-- FireFly_TB has quit (Quit: blubb blubb) 22:01:09 <-- aleth has quit (Input/output error) 22:01:11 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 22:01:11 * ChanServ sets mode +h aleth 22:01:47 <instantbot> aletheia2@fastmail.fm cancelled review?(benediktp@ymail.com ) for attachment 2022 on bug 1746. 22:01:48 <instantbot> aletheia2@fastmail.fm requested review from benediktp@ymail.com for attachment 2026 on bug 1746. 22:01:49 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1746 nor, --, ---, aletheia2, ASSI, Recent shortcut change eschews cursor shortcuts to moves tabs instead 22:04:26 <flo> the server hosting AIO has 1.6TB available. I'm moving the 2009 folder to that server's disk (even though it won't be available via http there) 22:05:11 <Mook_as> it'll just be an odd addon ;) 22:05:19 --> ecmuller has joined #instantbird 22:14:25 --> jb has joined #instantbird 22:14:42 --> mconley has joined #instantbird 22:26:06 --> wnayes has joined #instantbird 22:31:46 --> DGMurdockIII has joined #instantbird 22:48:33 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 22:48:33 * ChanServ sets mode +o clokep 22:50:31 <clokep> florian1: You going to move the 2008 ones there too? :P 22:50:45 <flo> clokep: do you mean you want me to put them offline? 22:50:46 --> mconley_ has joined #instantbird 22:51:10 <clokep> I figured it'd make more sense to have them altogether...so next time we have this conversation we don't need to find them both! :-D 22:51:18 <-- mconley has quit (Ping timeout) 22:51:52 * mconley_ is now known as mconley 22:52:02 <flo> the new mac builder will have 2TB of disk, so I hope I can put all the nightlies there, rsync'ed automatically, and host archive.instantbird.org or something like that on it 22:52:18 <clokep> :) 22:52:38 <flo> I wanted to do that with the current Mac builder at the time it had a good connection 22:53:10 <flo> but now it's at my parents', so the connection sucks and it takes forever to upload the builds, so I don't want to add webservices there (+ it's not even running the whole day) 22:53:34 * flo wonders if the old mac builder should go on ebay 22:53:51 <clokep> Let's get the new one working first? 22:54:33 <-- mconley has quit (Ping timeout) 22:54:52 <clokep> aleth: "I know IRC nicks can't be unicode, are you sure about passwords?" I doubt that's true. :) 22:55:01 --> rosonline has joined #instantbird 22:56:39 <clokep> (But your point is well taken, it needs to handle Unicode.) 22:57:46 <aleth> What, you can have unicode in nicks and #ubuntu is not full of strange characters? I'm amazed ;) 22:58:34 <flo> clokep: "Let's get the new one working first?" of course. And probably even a release from the new one. (as we would still need the old builder if we somehow need to rush out an 1.3.1 compatible with PPC) 22:59:00 <aleth> clokep: So it's not forbidden everywhere, it's a server by server thing? 22:59:06 <clokep> aleth: I think so. 22:59:13 <clokep> Passwords can have it, I'm sure. 22:59:29 <-- rosonline has quit (Ping timeout) 22:59:56 <aleth> clokep: It would make sense for nicks, but IRC is odd sometimes. 23:00:03 --> rosonline has joined #instantbird 23:00:06 <flo> putting accentuated characters, quotes, backslashes and that kind of 'special' characters in passwords is usually a bad idea. :) 23:00:44 <clokep> backslashes ftw! 23:00:46 --> mconley has joined #instantbird 23:00:50 <clokep> I've certainly broken accounts before by using quotes. :( 23:01:11 <-- aleth has quit (Input/output error) 23:01:13 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 23:01:13 * ChanServ sets mode +h aleth 23:01:15 <clokep> aleth: Yeah. I'm not sure. I'll probably give you a new patch tonight though, thanks for the feedback. :) 23:14:03 <-- aleth has quit (Input/output error) 23:41:06 <-- DGMurdockIII has quit (Ping timeout) 23:42:08 --> DGMurdockIII has joined #instantbird 23:53:44 <-- rosonline has quit (Ping timeout)