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01:02:26 <instant-buildbot> build #324 of win32-onCommit is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/win32-onCommit/builds/324 01:09:02 <-- micahg_ has quit (Quit: Ex-Chat) 01:37:57 --> DerpMon has joined #instantbird 01:38:25 <DerpMon> When will some of the nice emoticons and themes for earlier versions be updated to work with the newest Instantbird? 01:46:29 <-- DerpMon has quit (Client exited) 01:49:15 --> DerpMon has joined #instantbird 01:49:29 <DerpMon> Is anyone here? 01:54:57 <DerpMon> Why is everyone quiet? 02:06:52 <-- DerpMon has quit (Ping timeout) 02:10:29 --> DerpMon has joined #instantbird 02:16:03 <DerpMon> hi? 02:16:09 <DerpMon> anyone here? 02:40:57 --> skeledrew has joined #instantbird 02:45:13 <-- skeledrew has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2 -- http://www.instantbird.com) 02:45:50 --> skeledrew has joined #instantbird 02:51:06 --> mconley has joined #instantbird 02:56:31 <DerpMon> hi? 02:56:53 <DerpMon> Someone here? 03:01:46 <-- rosonline has quit (Quit: Experimentem Instantbird 1.2 -- http://www.instantbird.com) 03:36:18 <instant-buildbot> build #668 of linux-nightly-default is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/linux-nightly-default/builds/668 03:52:29 --> clokep_wp7 has joined #instantbird 03:53:38 <clokep_wp7> DerpMon: most people are asleep 03:54:12 <clokep_wp7> You'd need to ask the authors to upgrade them though 03:55:30 <-- clokep_wp7 has quit (Broken pipe) 04:45:50 <DerpMon> ok 04:45:58 <DerpMon> how do u contact them 04:53:07 <instant-buildbot> build #664 of macosx-nightly-default is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/macosx-nightly-default/builds/664 05:19:17 <instant-buildbot> build #756 of win32-nightly-default is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/win32-nightly-default/builds/756 05:24:54 <-- DerpMon has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2 -- http://www.instantbird.com) 06:13:11 <-- mconley has quit (Input/output error) 07:28:20 --> deltafalcon has joined #instantbird 07:32:10 <instant-buildbot> build #306 of macosx-onCommit is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/macosx-onCommit/builds/306 07:53:01 --> jb has joined #instantbird 08:40:55 --> BlueMaxima has joined #instantbird 08:47:42 <-- jb has quit (Ping timeout) 08:52:11 <-- BlueMaxima has quit (Quit: Leaving) 10:03:17 <-- Mook has quit (Quit: Mook) 10:22:44 <-- Even has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.3a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 10:22:54 --> Even has joined #instantbird 10:22:54 * ChanServ sets mode +o Even 10:28:46 --> meh has joined #instantbird 10:59:42 <-- meh has quit (Quit: brb) 11:01:03 --> meh has joined #instantbird 11:11:48 --> FeuerFliege has joined #instantbird 11:24:07 --> BlueMaxima has joined #instantbird 11:27:15 <BlueMaxima> I appear to be having a problem where Twitter keeps giving me a 401 error 11:27:25 <BlueMaxima> "unauthorized" 11:27:32 <BlueMaxima> although I've authorised the app a million times 11:28:00 <BlueMaxima> (I'm running the latest nightly just for the record) 12:09:06 --> Optimizer has joined #instantbird 12:15:54 <-- Optimizer has quit (Ping timeout) 12:19:26 --> Optimizer has joined #instantbird 12:27:45 <FeuerFliege> BlueMaxima: You must use the same username to login as in IB, it won't work if you login with your email adress 12:32:13 <BlueMaxima> FeuerFliege, I did login with just the username 12:36:08 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 12:36:08 * ChanServ sets mode +o clokep 12:44:38 <clokep> BlueMaxima: Is this an account that used to work and is now throwing an error? First thing I'd try is...wait a little bit and then try again. The Twitter servers can be flaky. 12:44:45 <clokep> If it's a new account...it could be something else... 12:45:44 <BlueMaxima> Just wiped and upgraded to Windows 8 but Twitter was working fine (minus that bug where your feed would stop working after a random amount of time) while I was on W7 12:46:31 <clokep> OK, so it's a new account then? (Or did you transfer your profile.) 12:47:05 <clokep> Hmm....I know we used to have a weird bug about having to have the capitalization the same as when you log into Twitter, but I think we had fixed that. 12:49:10 <BlueMaxima> New account 12:49:24 <BlueMaxima> I didn't know you could transfer your profile 12:58:58 <clokep> Yeah, you can just copy and paste it. 12:59:07 <clokep> What I plan to do when my Windows 8 copy gets here. ;) 13:00:07 <BlueMaxima> sounds like fun :D 13:02:07 <BlueMaxima> But yeah; it's annoying that Twitter never seems to work properly for me on Instantbird :( 13:19:34 <clokep> I'm sorry to hear that. :-/ 13:21:50 <BlueMaxima> If I knew how to duplicate it I would but it happens at complete random 13:22:24 <BlueMaxima> The funny thing is, the bug I'm getting with the 401 error would actually sorta kinda fix the problem by throwing the Twitter account offline for a second and then reconnecting so it grabs all the new tweets 13:41:46 <-- FeuerFliege has quit (Ping timeout) 13:48:21 <flo-retina> 401 can often mean that the oauth signature is wrong 13:48:39 <flo-retina> I wonder if there could be specific characters that are mis-encoded before signing them 13:48:58 <flo-retina> BlueMaxima: do you have something in the "tracked keywords" field? 13:49:35 <BlueMaxima> Nothing in there, no 13:50:36 <BlueMaxima> Also, I noticed something on Windows 8's default settings... 13:50:39 <BlueMaxima> Needs a screenshot 13:51:57 <flo-retina> pfff @ https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=789745#c30 13:52:00 <flo-retina> stupid server :( 13:52:32 <clokep> :-/ 13:52:42 <clokep> Checking the version is the exact way you're supposed to check, right? 13:52:51 <BlueMaxima> http://i.imgur.com/sz1Zd.png 13:55:17 --> rosonline has joined #instantbird 13:55:18 <clokep> BlueMaxima: Looks like bug 935 13:55:22 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=935 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, em and pt usage in CSS causes size/alignment errors for certain font sizes and DPI settings 13:56:45 <BlueMaxima> Yeah that's pretty much it 13:57:02 <BlueMaxima> Problem is that Windows 8's default text side is 125%/150% (I forget which one) 13:57:14 <BlueMaxima> So anyone who upgrades to Windows 8 and uses Instantbird is gonna run face first into that 13:57:39 <flo-retina> clokep: some part of some spec says that it's possible for servers supporting both SASL and the legacy auth to advertise the legacy auth in the feature list, to keep backward compatibility with old clients that don't support SASL. 13:57:59 <flo-retina> clokep: but in this case the server advertizes the legacy auth, and doesn't support SASL. (ie it sucks.) 14:00:23 <clokep> Oh. :-/ 14:00:26 <GeekShadow> hello 14:00:39 <GeekShadow> flo-retina, I have a question for you ;) 14:00:47 <clokep> BlueMaxima: Default for me was 100%. 14:00:57 <GeekShadow> flo-retina, can I cross-compile universal dmg on a ppc ? 14:00:57 * clokep is off to play disc golf... 14:00:58 <BlueMaxima> clokep, wasn't for me...that's weird 14:01:08 <GeekShadow> in case of mozilla products 14:01:19 <flo-retina> GeekShadow: can you be more specific? 14:01:31 <flo-retina> which universal build? Which PPC machine? 14:02:04 <GeekShadow> flo-retina, I have an iMac G5 PPC, and want to compile for Intel/PPC 14:03:00 <flo-retina> GeekShadow: is it running OS X 10.5? 14:03:33 <-- BlueMaxima has quit (Quit: Leaving) 14:04:38 <GeekShadow> it will 14:05:15 <GeekShadow> currently it's 10.3 but I will upgrade it 14:05:57 --> ecmuller has joined #instantbird 14:06:44 <flo-retina> GeekShadow: so with an OS older than 10.5, there's just no way you can compile recent mozillas 14:07:07 <flo-retina> GeekShadow: with 10.5, it should be possibly but painful to build Gecko up to 16. 14:07:21 <GeekShadow> flo-retina, it's for nightingale so 1.9.2 14:07:24 <flo-retina> Gecko 17 dropped support for 10.5, and 10.6 dropped support for PPC. 14:07:40 <GeekShadow> I know 14:08:09 <flo-retina> ok, I think 1.9.2 still supported PPC out of the box, so there shouldn't be any issue 14:08:36 <GeekShadow> yup, but can it produce universal builds on ppc ? 14:09:13 <flo-retina> GeekShadow: Instantbird mac builds are built from a PowerMac G5 ;) 14:10:08 <GeekShadow> but you are using an higher version of gecko... 14:10:09 <flo-retina> so fastmail is running an XMPP server which has its latest version released in 2008? :-S 14:10:41 <flo-retina> GeekShadow: we've been doing universal builds of Instantbird from that machine since Instantbird 0.1.2 14:11:43 <flo-retina> and 0.1.2 was based on Mozilla 1.9.0.1 ;) 14:12:31 <flo-retina> GeekShadow: instantbird 0.2 was on Mozilla 1.9.2.7. 14:12:43 <GeekShadow> ok 14:13:27 <GeekShadow> well I have to upgrade my iMac and then set up everything to build then :D 14:16:30 <flo-retina> and be very patient 14:16:43 <GeekShadow> I guess ^^ 14:16:50 <GeekShadow> with only 256mb of ram 14:16:51 <flo-retina> an universal build takes 4-6 hours on our PowerMac G5, which is one of the fastest PPC machines that have been shipped... 14:16:55 <flo-retina> ouch 14:17:06 <flo-retina> we have 2.5GB of RAM ;) 14:22:20 <GeekShadow> ohoh ^^ 14:31:19 --> micahg has joined #instantbird 14:39:04 --> chrisccoulson has joined #instantbird 15:12:33 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 15:12:33 * ChanServ sets mode +h aleth 15:26:44 <instantbot> aletheia2@fastmail.fm requested review from florian@instantbird .org for attachment 2019 on bug 1694. 15:26:47 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1694 enh, --, ---, aletheia2, ASSI, Use twitter icon for twitter tabs 15:32:29 <instantbot> aletheia2@fastmail.fm requested review from florian@instantbird .org for attachment 2020 on bug 1694. 15:32:32 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1694 enh, --, ---, aletheia2, ASSI, Use twitter icon for twitter tabs 15:35:10 <rosonline> aleth: Hello! Would I create an Instantbird PPA? 15:36:59 <aleth> rosonline: Hi! None of the devs uses ubuntu, so we don't know how to package things for ubuntu. But it would be great if someone did! ;) 15:38:06 <rosonline> So, I'll try it. I'm search ways to do i 15:38:07 <rosonline> t 15:38:18 <aleth> Great :) 15:39:01 <rosonline> So, I'll creat an PPA. Any sugestions for the name of PPA? 15:39:29 <-- Optimizer has quit (Ping timeout) 15:39:47 <-- chrisccoulson has quit (Ping timeout) 15:40:46 <aleth> I don't know what the naming conventions are on Launchpad. My guess is you would make one in your own launchpad account first, test that it works, and then maybe it could be moved to a more "official" one. But that is just my guess (I don't know anything about packaging). 15:42:20 <aleth> By the way, there is already a (really old and out of date) Instantbird package in the official ubuntu/debian repo, you would probably want to make sure that your PPA 'replaces' it if it is already installed. 15:43:04 <aleth> But those are details for when you get it working... 15:48:48 <rosonline> I did create the PPA. I'll learn how compile a deb package. 15:49:27 <aleth> Excellent - let us know how it goes! :) 15:52:54 <rosonline> the PPA address? 15:53:15 <aleth> I meant, let us know if you manage to get it working ;) 15:54:04 <aleth> I am sure there are a lot of ubuntu users who would prefer to install IB from a PPA. 15:55:24 <aleth> clokep: Could you test the contact list keyboard accessibility changes work/look the way they should on Windows now they have landed? 15:56:03 <rosonline> ok! I'll do it 16:01:07 --> Optimizer has joined #instantbird 16:04:09 <-- aleth has quit (Quit: Au revoir) 16:05:15 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 16:05:15 * ChanServ sets mode +h aleth 16:10:47 <-- aleth has quit (Input/output error) 16:11:47 --> mconley has joined #instantbird 16:31:39 <-- micahg has quit (Ping timeout) 16:32:23 <rosonline> Is anyone uses Ubuntu? 16:33:01 --> Mnyromyr has joined #instantbird 16:33:04 <-- gerard-majax has quit (Quit: Ex-Chat) 16:34:03 <flo-retina> is fastmail common enough that we should offer a protocol override for it by default? 16:34:16 <flo-retina> it seems painful to setup 16:34:38 --> gerard-majax has joined #instantbird 16:49:33 <-- rosonline has quit (Quit: Experimentem Instantbird 1.2 -- http://www.instantbird.com) 16:49:46 --> rosonline has joined #instantbird 16:51:42 --> go8765 has joined #instantbird 16:52:05 <-- go8765 has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.3a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 17:04:31 --> chrisccoulson has joined #instantbird 17:04:49 <-- chrisccoulson has quit (Client exited) 17:05:57 --> FeuerFliege has joined #instantbird 17:06:57 <-- rosonline has quit (Quit: Experimentem Instantbird 1.2 -- http://www.instantbird.com) 17:10:03 --> chrisccoulson has joined #instantbird 17:16:03 --> wnayes has joined #instantbird 17:16:31 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 17:16:32 * ChanServ sets mode +h aleth 17:18:03 <-- skeledrew has quit (Ping timeout) 17:18:46 --> rosonline has joined #instantbird 17:22:54 <aleth> flo-retina: I don't think fastmail for email is that common, using their chat server is probably even less so. If they should update their software, maybe pinging them about it would be an easier solution? 17:24:51 <aleth> Unless - fastmail the company is part of Opera now, maybe the same server is offered to Opera users in some way? 17:25:06 <-- rosonline has quit (Quit: Experimentem Instantbird 1.2 -- http://www.instantbird.com) 17:26:02 --> mikk_s has joined #instantbird 17:26:26 --> rosonline has joined #instantbird 17:26:40 <aleth> Hmm, that's odd, now it's landed, the CSS for tabbing through the blist acts slightly differently. I wonder if that's down to the intervening gecko updates... 17:26:43 <-- mikk_s has quit (Client exited) 17:27:45 <rosonline> aleth: Use you an Ubuntu PC? 17:29:20 <-- chrisccoulson has quit (Ping timeout) 17:29:22 <aleth> rosonline: No, sorry 17:30:53 <rosonline> I did the deb package, and I would know if it'll work in the Ubuntu. There's an Instantbird version in my PC 17:31:12 <rosonline> I need the other ubuntu PC 17:31:28 <rosonline> or a virtual machine 17:57:04 <-- deltafalcon has quit (Connection reset by peer) 18:03:06 <-- rosonline has quit (Client exited) 18:05:36 --> rosonline has joined #instantbird 18:06:08 <-- Optimizer has quit (Ping timeout) 18:08:01 <-- rosonline has quit (Quit: Experimentem Instantbird 1.2 -- http://www.instantbird.com) 18:08:20 --> rosonline has joined #instantbird 18:15:38 <flo-retina> aleth: I don't think they would update the version of their customized server just for us. 18:15:46 <flo-retina> aleth: I think we should just support that edge case in the auth code. 18:16:36 <aleth> flo-retina: I don't have any context, I just saw what looked like the last half of a conversation in the logs... 18:16:55 <aleth> (So I don't know what the edge case is you are referring to ;) ) 18:17:31 <flo-retina> aleth: JS-XMPP can't login to the fastmail XMPP servers because they announce version 1.0 but don't support SASL. 18:17:42 <flo-retina> They do advertize support for the legacy auth though, so we could use it. 18:17:53 --> Optimizer has joined #instantbird 18:20:32 * aleth is unhappy that something has broken the blist CSS he added :( 18:21:02 <aleth> flo-retina: When you tab to the status message on Mac, does the text shift position for you? 18:22:11 <flo-retina> aleth: my current nightly is 2 days old, so I don't think it includes your changes already 18:27:27 --> TestTiger has joined #instantbird 18:31:15 <aleth> Something must have changed in the way negative margins are applied... 18:37:28 <-- TestTiger has left #instantbird () 18:44:04 <-- mconley has quit (Ping timeout) 18:46:09 --> mconley has joined #instantbird 18:53:12 <-- aleth has quit (Input/output error) 18:53:15 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 18:53:15 * ChanServ sets mode +h aleth 19:02:42 <-- aleth has quit (Quit: Au revoir) 19:02:57 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 19:02:58 * ChanServ sets mode +h aleth 19:03:27 <aleth> Aha! Problem found :) It was an add-on that did it. 19:04:35 <aleth> The nightly on its own is fine. 19:09:32 <-- gerard-majax has quit (Ping timeout) 19:13:48 --> gerard-majax_ has joined #instantbird 19:16:48 --> skeledrew has joined #instantbird 19:29:24 <-- aleth has quit (Quit: Au revoir) 19:29:30 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 19:29:30 * ChanServ sets mode +h aleth 19:32:34 <-- aleth has quit (Quit: Au revoir) 19:33:05 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 19:33:05 * ChanServ sets mode +h aleth 19:42:32 <-- FeuerFliege has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.3a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 19:53:31 --> EionRobb has joined #instantbird 19:56:26 <instantbot> New Instantbird (UI) bug 1745 filed by aletheia2@fastmail.fm. 19:56:28 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1745 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Tweets in twitter logs don't have the full context menu 20:26:33 <clokep> flo-retina: Doesn't someone here use fastmail? aleth maybe? 20:26:46 <clokep> aleth: I can test stuff sure, just let me know what you want me to test! 20:27:03 --> Tonnes has joined #instantbird 20:27:22 <aleth> clokep: I don't think there's a problem anymore, but just tab through the contact window 20:27:49 <aleth> (and make sure everything is accessible) 20:27:56 <aleth> clokep: I don't use fastmail XMPP though 20:28:11 <clokep> aleth: Yes, but I thought you might know how popular it is. :-D 20:28:22 <clokep> What should tab cycle through? 20:29:17 <aleth> clokep: That's why I replied earlier ;) 20:29:18 <clokep> It's possible chriscoulson has some information about ppas btw, he (I think?) made the old Instantbird one and he maintains the Thunderbird ones? 20:29:32 <aleth> rosonline ^^ 20:29:41 * clokep thinks 1745 is a dup... 20:29:45 <aleth> clokep: To the user icon, status message, etc 20:30:24 <clokep> aleth: Yes it works fine. 20:30:33 <clokep> aleth: Although you can't tell half the time what is focused... 20:30:54 <aleth> Why can't you tell? 20:33:17 <aleth> (That's one of the things that should be fixed...) 20:34:27 <clokep> aleth: Because there's no like dotted box or anything when I'm on display name saying that's focused? If I hit enter it'll start editing it. 20:34:42 <aleth> clokep: I just added a focus ring :( 20:34:51 <aleth> Are you sure you're on the latest nightly? 20:35:08 <clokep> aleth: I'm not on the latest nightly. 20:35:22 <aleth> OK then :D 20:35:57 <clokep> You didn't specify. ;) 20:36:17 <aleth> Sorry... that's why I asked, because the changes have not been tested on Windows 20:36:35 <EionRobb> you chaps planning on a win8 version of IB? 20:36:51 <clokep> EionRobb: I assume you mean one actually using the Metro UI? 20:37:18 <EionRobb> yeah 20:40:23 <-- clokep has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.3a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 20:40:30 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 20:40:30 * ChanServ sets mode +o clokep 20:40:48 <clokep> aleth: Fixed. 20:41:24 <aleth> Good :) I asked because Aero sometimes gets separate style rules... 20:42:38 <clokep> Yup. 21:19:47 * aleth misses interdiff 21:21:11 <aleth> Any news on the BIO-BMO move? Wasn't it slated for Q4? 21:24:47 <aleth> Is this a mac issue or a larger problem? https://twitter.com/AustinNix123/status/262611530997190656 21:25:58 <EionRobb> worksforme 21:26:32 <aleth> EionRobb: I think it refers to a11y not the site being down. 21:26:47 <EionRobb> ah ok 21:28:21 <-- gerard-majax_ has quit (Ping timeout) 21:28:21 <-- Optimizer has quit (Ping timeout) 21:29:20 <-- mconley has quit (Input/output error) 21:31:38 --> Optimizer has joined #instantbird 21:34:56 <-- skeledrew has quit (Ping timeout) 21:37:30 --> skeledrew has joined #instantbird 21:42:27 <clokep> aleth: "soon" still... 21:43:12 --> gerard-majax_ has joined #instantbird 21:45:24 <-- Mnyromyr has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [SeaMonkey 1.1.19/2010030105]) 21:47:03 <instantbot> aletheia2@fastmail.fm granted feedback for attachment 2009 on bug 1573. 21:47:05 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1573 enh, --, ---, clokep, ASSI, Support SASL for IRC 21:50:11 <aleth> There are around 65 daily users of the Dark Chat message style. 21:50:17 * aleth is surprised... 21:52:03 --> DGMurdockIII has joined #instantbird 21:56:55 <clokep> Thanks aleth. 22:00:11 <aleth> Oops, referring to a channel name on twitter just looks like a hashtag :-S 22:00:40 <clokep> Yeah well, Twitter probably isn't made to refer to IRC channels... ;) 22:00:47 <-- Optimizer has quit (Ping timeout) 22:04:09 --> Optimizer has joined #instantbird 22:12:14 --> mconley has joined #instantbird 22:17:18 <-- gerard-majax_ has quit (Ping timeout) 22:26:33 <-- aleth has quit (Input/output error) 22:35:05 --> gerard-majax_ has joined #instantbird 22:45:13 <clokep> aleth: Thanks for the feedback. I have no idea what the best user experience is still... :-/ 23:05:02 <-- flo-retina has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.3a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 23:20:40 <-- Kaishi has quit (Ping timeout) 23:21:43 --> Kaishi has joined #instantbird 23:36:43 <instantbot> clokep@gmail.com set the Resolution field on bug 1744 to FIXED. 23:36:45 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1744 nor, --, 1.3, florian, RESO FIXED, Fix Windows test failures from Mozilla 16 update 23:37:44 <instantbot> clokep@gmail.com set the Resolution field on bug 1489 to FIXED. 23:37:46 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1489 nor, --, 1.3, florian, RESO FIXED, Update to Mozilla 16 23:38:59 <clokep> Guess no one ever closed those. ;) 23:52:44 <clokep> Quite a few bugs fixed for 1.3 already... https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/buglist.cgi?resolution=FIXED&target_milestone=1.3&list_id=3164