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00:46:37 <-- Mook_as has quit (Quit: Mook_as) 00:48:09 <-- florian has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.3a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 00:54:06 <-- skeledrew has quit (Ping timeout) 00:58:56 --> skeledrew has joined #instantbird 01:00:23 <-- mconley has quit (Input/output error) 01:35:43 <-- wnayes has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.3a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 01:41:08 --> mconley has joined #instantbird 02:00:37 <instant-buildbot> build #302 of macosx-onCommit is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/macosx-onCommit/builds/302 02:15:55 <-- mconley has quit (Input/output error) 02:31:49 --> Mook has joined #instantbird 02:35:04 <instant-buildbot> build #666 of linux-nightly-default is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/linux-nightly-default/builds/666 02:35:20 <clokep> Uhoh...build 666... 02:36:02 <Mook> but it _is_ a success 02:36:07 <clokep> Yes. :) 02:36:15 <clokep> I don't care about the Linux build though. ;) 02:36:58 <EionRobb> because Linux is evil? 02:37:20 <clokep> Mostly. 02:46:24 * clokep wonders if Mook ever got a real MSVC installed... 02:46:58 <Mook> I can keep trying! eventually I'll have a demo version of every single msvc ever released! 02:47:19 <Mook> (and then find out it's broken because my disk is bad, or something) 02:54:47 <clokep> Hahah. 03:05:13 --> mconley has joined #instantbird 03:06:26 <-- Kaishi has quit (Quit: Kaishi) 03:06:30 --> Kaishi has joined #instantbird 03:20:40 --> flo-retina has joined #instantbird 03:20:40 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo-retina flo-retina 03:23:14 <-- clokep has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.3a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 03:33:53 <-- mconley has quit (Input/output error) 03:58:36 --> DGMurdockIII has joined #instantbird 04:04:51 <-- EionRobb has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 04:13:05 <instant-buildbot> build #754 of win32-nightly-default is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/win32-nightly-default/builds/754 04:59:29 --> deltafalcon has joined #instantbird 05:06:18 --> mconley has joined #instantbird 05:17:22 <-- flo-retina has quit (Ping timeout) 05:17:28 --> flo-retina has joined #instantbird 05:17:28 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo-retina flo-retina 05:47:55 <-- Optimizer has quit (Ping timeout) 05:51:12 --> Optimizer has joined #instantbird 05:56:16 <-- Mook has quit (Quit: Mook) 06:19:00 <-- flo-retina has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.3a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 06:26:00 <-- DGMurdockIII has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.89 [Firefox 17.0/20121023124120]) 06:26:28 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/5b0db93ecc3f - aleth - Bug 1697 - Update /mode command syntax, r=clokep. 06:26:29 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/ed95a5461d31 - aleth - Bug 1470 - Reply to tweet only auto-fills the first (of possibly multiple) nicks, r=clokep,fqueze. 06:26:30 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/0b9a66047bcb - aleth - Bug 1726 - Part and join system messages are asymmetric, r=clokep. 06:42:17 <instant-buildbot> build #333 of linux-onCommit is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/linux-onCommit/builds/333 06:49:37 <instant-buildbot> build #662 of macosx-nightly-default is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/macosx-nightly-default/builds/662 07:05:15 <-- mconley has quit (Input/output error) 07:12:43 --> chrisccoulson has joined #instantbird 07:12:51 <-- chrisccoulson has quit (Client exited) 07:52:14 --> jb has joined #instantbird 07:59:51 <-- jb has quit (Quit: jb) 08:00:23 --> jb has joined #instantbird 08:01:29 <-- jb has quit (Quit: jb) 08:01:53 --> jb has joined #instantbird 08:02:58 <-- jb has quit (Quit: jb) 08:03:50 --> jb has joined #instantbird 08:04:23 --> gerard-majax 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#instantbird 10:03:38 * ChanServ sets mode +o clokep 10:04:34 <-- jb has quit (Quit: jb) 10:14:26 <-- Even has quit (Ping timeout) 10:14:26 <-- Even2 has quit (Ping timeout) 10:17:53 --> Even has joined #instantbird 10:17:53 * ChanServ sets mode +o Even 10:17:56 --> Even1 has joined #instantbird 10:18:36 <-- clokep has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.3a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 10:18:42 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 10:18:42 * ChanServ sets mode +o clokep 10:19:57 <instantbot> clokep@gmail.com set the Resolution field on bug 1697 to FIXED. 10:20:03 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1697 tri, --, 1.3, aletheia2, RESO FIXED, Update /mode command syntax 10:20:48 <instantbot> clokep@gmail.com set the Resolution field on bug 1470 to FIXED. 10:20:50 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1470 nor, --, 1.3, aletheia2, RESO FIXED, Reply to tweet only auto-fills the first (of possibly multiple) nicks 10:21:28 <instantbot> clokep@gmail.com set the Resolution field on bug 1726 to FIXED. 10:21:31 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1726 min, --, 1.3, aletheia2, RESO FIXED, Part and join system messages are asymmetric 10:21:44 <-- Optimizer has quit (Ping timeout) 10:25:02 --> Optimizer has joined #instantbird 10:27:42 <clokep> Yay, the found patch works well. :) 10:30:56 <FeuerFliege> HI 10:36:14 <clokep> Hello. 10:42:25 --> meh has joined #instantbird 11:03:14 <-- clokep has quit (Ping timeout) 11:12:02 <-- Optimizer has quit (Ping timeout) 11:15:23 --> Optimizer has joined #instantbird 11:18:34 <-- Optimizer has quit (Ping timeout) 11:22:11 --> Optimizer has joined #instantbird 11:52:40 --> clokep_work has joined #instantbird 11:52:40 * ChanServ sets mode +o clokep_work 11:52:53 <-- clokep_work has quit (Input/output error) 11:53:04 --> clokep_work has joined #instantbird 11:53:04 * ChanServ sets mode +o clokep_work 12:15:02 --> mikk_s has joined #instantbird 12:15:28 <-- 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<-- barlas has quit (Ping timeout) 14:00:28 --> jb has joined #instantbird 14:02:03 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 14:02:05 * ChanServ sets mode +h aleth 14:02:18 <-- jb has quit (Ping timeout) 14:02:24 --> jb has joined #instantbird 14:03:48 --> jb1 has joined #instantbird 14:03:58 <-- jb has quit (Connection reset by peer) 14:04:39 <flo-retina> if the lufthansa flash crap for only check-in could avoid ignoring 2/3 of my clicks, freezing, and requesting passport info again (is it really likely to have changed since Monday?) I could almost forgive that it's in flash. 14:08:05 <flo-retina> also if it could avoid expecting that people don't have a popup blocker, that would be nice too 14:08:15 --> mikk_s has joined #instantbird 14:18:15 <-- mikk_s has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2 -- http://www.instantbird.com) 14:37:09 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 14:37:09 * ChanServ sets mode +h Mic 14:37:46 <-- Mic has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.3a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 14:39:35 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 14:39:35 * ChanServ sets mode +h Mic 14:42:33 <Mic> Check-ins and no new nightly. Meh :( 14:43:00 <Mic> Couldn't it please fail when there were no check-ins instead? ;) 14:43:04 <meh> I know, I know, it's my fault but let's not make a big deal out of it 15:01:26 <flo-retina> Mic: it's because the nightlies start too early for this timezone, and the check-ins happened after the nightly started 15:02:43 <Mic> Ah, wrong column, indeed. 15:02:49 <-- FeuerFliege has quit (Ping timeout) 15:02:53 <Mic> The oncommit build failed, not the nightly. 15:13:24 <-- flo-retina has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.3a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 15:18:28 --> FeuerFliege has joined #instantbird 15:41:32 <-- Mic has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.3a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 15:55:38 <-- gerard-majax has quit (Ping timeout) 16:02:18 <-- mconley has quit (Ping timeout) 16:03:05 --> mconley has joined #instantbird 16:15:43 <-- deltafalcon has quit (Ping timeout) 16:16:01 <aleth> clokep_work: Sorry I haven't had a chance to look at SASL yet. 16:18:21 <aleth> Naive question: if we always send a password with PASS first, what is SASL good for in practice? Are there servers that accept only SASL for Nickserv? 16:20:50 <aleth> (You mentioned freenode, but that seems to work fine with PASS) 16:23:52 <aleth> Hmm... if I understand correctly, it seems freenode may require SASL if you login from certain IPs? 16:27:15 <aleth> (My concern is that googling seems to suggest the benefit of SASL is that your password is transmitted encrypted... but if we already send it via PASS... anyway that doesn't make much sense to me unless one is not using SSL) 16:31:09 <-- jb1 has quit (Ping timeout) 16:31:51 <aleth> Elaborate... http://userbase.kde.org/Konversation/Configuring_SASL_authentication 16:46:46 <-- barlas_ has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) 16:51:39 <-- Optimizer has quit (Ping timeout) 16:54:59 --> Optimizer has joined #instantbird 17:09:23 <clokep_work> 12:23:53 PM - aleth: Hmm... if I understand correctly, it seems freenode may require SASL if you login from certain IPs? 17:09:26 <clokep_work> bing ^ 17:09:28 <clokep_work> *bingo 17:11:40 <clokep_work> aleth: We could not send the password and try to use SASL...but then servers like moznet (that don't support SASL) won't let you login automatically. 17:12:38 <clokep_work> I'd rather not ask users to choose how to authenticate, but it looks like we need to. :-/ 17:13:04 --> flo-retina has joined #instantbird 17:13:04 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo-retina flo-retina 17:13:06 <aleth> Right, thanks. Just wanted to make sure I understood what it was for... 17:13:18 <flo-retina> so growl support is coming back (!) https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=805837 17:13:36 <clokep_work> flo-retina: I'm not surprised. 17:13:53 <clokep_work> flo-retina: You think they'll add it back for comm-central too? 17:13:58 <flo-retina> clokep_work: I'm surprised it's coming back from the same person who removed it ;) 17:14:14 <flo-retina> it's not on -central, only on -aurora 17:14:26 <flo-retina> but yes, I think we can back out my patch from comm-aurora :-D 17:14:53 <flo-retina> or maybe we don't care if Tb18 isn't going to be released anyway 17:15:54 <dew> I need to read up on the release schedule for thunderbird :/ 17:16:29 <clokep_work> aleth: Yes, it is more secure. Idk what to do about it. I'd really like to auto-authenticate...:( 17:16:34 <clokep_work> flo-retina: Are you enjoying your flag icon? 17:17:12 <flo-retina> clokep_work: it doesn't make a big difference for me. It's not really like I could forget I created this channel :) 17:19:04 * clokep_work likes it. 17:19:55 <flo-retina> clokep_work: I may discover who founder other channels though :) 17:20:07 <flo-retina> *founded 17:20:37 <clokep_work> I've only seen it on this channel and one other that I made... 17:21:07 <flo-retina> jb should have it in #WebRTC-Apps. 17:21:27 <clokep_work> flo-retina: So....the mode is only set properly if they join /after/ you do. 17:21:39 <flo-retina> clokep_work: really? :( 17:21:43 <clokep_work> I'm hoping that implementing NAMESX will fix that. 17:22:15 <flo-retina> another obscure IRC spec? 17:30:30 <clokep_work> Not so obscure. :) 17:30:31 <clokep_work> But yes. 17:30:42 <clokep_work> It has it so all prefixes are sent whenever someone joins a room. 17:30:56 <clokep_work> So if I had +ov, I would be @+clokep instead of just @clokep. 17:31:03 <clokep_work> So if you take away my op people still now I'm +v. 17:31:10 <clokep_work> I'm /hoping/ that part of that is sending founder flags. :) 17:31:50 <clokep_work> But I haven't checked yet. :-/ 17:32:53 <flo-retina> are you really +v in addition to +o? 17:33:03 <clokep_work> No. 17:33:11 <clokep_work> It was an example. 17:33:16 <clokep_work> It's a bug in the protocol. :-/ 17:33:27 <flo-retina> you may still be half op though :) 17:33:44 * clokep_work has ben tempted to make Mic +v instead of +h. 17:33:48 <clokep_work> He has all the bugs memorized. :p 17:33:59 <flo-retina> ahah 17:40:45 <-- FeuerFliege has quit (Ping timeout) 17:48:20 <clokep_work> But NAMESX is something I think we should support...it's fairly straight forward, not too much more work and fixes a (somewhat rare?) bug in the protocol. 17:48:25 <clokep_work> So it's certainly on my todo list. 17:48:31 <clokep_work> My ever growing todo list. ;) 17:49:26 * clokep_work wishes that tab completion of channel names worked. :( 17:50:36 <clokep_work> git fetch 17:50:40 <clokep_work> Oops... 17:50:49 <clokep_work> That wasn't my terminal. :-D 17:51:06 <aleth> The perils of using the simple theme... ;) 17:55:02 <clokep_work> The perils of ctrl+tab + immediately typing and pressing enter? ;) 17:55:04 <clokep_work> At least it wasn't my password. 17:57:09 --> FeuerFliege has joined #instantbird 18:01:23 --> Mnyromyr has joined #instantbird 18:01:24 <dew> I end up typing my git commands in my ide a lot so I feel your pain 18:03:36 <-- FeuerFliege has quit (Ping timeout) 18:07:53 <-- Kaishi has quit (Quit: Kaishi) 18:09:42 --> igorko has joined #instantbird 18:11:30 --> Kaishi has joined #instantbird 18:18:40 <aleth> Yup, one too few alt-tabs happens quite often to me too... 18:19:22 <aleth> clokep_work: It's a shame there doesn't seem to be a way we can simply start with the most secure auth method and then gracefully degrade :( 18:20:31 <clokep_work> aleth: Right, you don't find out if you can use SASL until after you've sent the PASS command. 18:21:19 <aleth> Yes, great spec design there :( 18:25:13 <clokep_work> I mean you /can/ do it. 18:25:27 <clokep_work> If you pause sending PASS/NICK/USER until you get a response from CAP LS 18:25:31 <clokep_work> But you don't know how long to wait for that. 18:25:40 <clokep_work> And are likely to time out the connection (or just make it stupid long for the user) 18:37:48 <clokep_work> aleth: I'd love a smart way to do this, I just haven't been able to think of one. :( 18:38:11 <clokep_work> If most people implemented SASL I'd say just don't use PASS.... 18:39:10 <aleth> Can't think of anything either so far... 18:39:57 <aleth> The only thing I came up with was doing what you suggest the first time connecting to a server. When the connection fails, retry with PASS and set a pref on the account 18:41:25 <clokep_work> Yeah, that does seem to be doable. 18:42:04 <aleth> or can we tell what software the server is running and guess/learn from that? 18:42:40 <clokep_work> No. 18:42:46 <clokep_work> You don't know that until successful connection. 18:43:05 <aleth> Right. 18:45:13 <aleth> OK, so assuming we used a pref, we could unset it if we notice on connection that CAP is suddenly supported on a server (because it got upgraded or something) 18:47:07 <clokep_work> We could possibly do something like that, yes. :-/ 18:47:27 <aleth> It's all so hackish :-/ 18:54:26 <clokep_work> I concur. 18:59:52 --> gerard-majax has joined #instantbird 19:02:14 <-- gerard-majax has quit (Connection reset by peer) 19:02:19 --> gerard-majax has joined #instantbird 19:16:10 --> chrisccoulson has joined #instantbird 19:40:29 <-- gerard-majax has quit (Connection reset by peer) 19:40:33 --> gerard-majax_ has joined #instantbird 20:12:49 <-- igorko has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2 -- http://www.instantbird.com) 20:30:31 <-- Optimizer has quit (Ping timeout) 20:33:15 --> Mook_as has joined #instantbird 20:34:28 --> Optimizer has joined #instantbird 20:42:41 --> wnayes has joined #instantbird 21:09:57 <-- meh has quit (Quit: I don't want to live on this planet anymore.) 21:18:14 <-- Mnyromyr has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [SeaMonkey 1.1.19/2010030105]) 21:19:27 <-- zen_monkey has quit (Ping timeout) 21:19:55 --> zen_monkey has joined #instantbird 21:20:33 <-- clokep_work has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.3a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 21:39:33 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 21:39:33 * ChanServ sets mode +h Mic 21:44:43 <-- Mic has quit (Connection reset by peer) 21:52:32 <-- mconley has quit (Input/output error) 21:52:36 <-- Optimizer has quit (Ping timeout) 21:54:07 --> Optimizer has joined #instantbird 22:04:57 <-- zen_monkey has quit (Ping timeout) 22:16:34 <-- aleth has quit (Quit: Au revoir) 22:19:43 --> zen_monkey has joined #instantbird 22:25:08 <-- flo-retina has quit (Ping timeout) 22:28:34 --> flo-retina has joined #instantbird 22:28:34 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo-retina flo-retina 22:30:14 --> jb has joined #instantbird 22:31:00 <-- zen_monkey has quit (Ping timeout) 22:31:48 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 22:31:49 * ChanServ sets mode +h Mic 22:36:07 --> zen_monkey has joined #instantbird 22:41:45 <-- jb has quit (Ping timeout) 22:43:57 <-- Mic has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.3a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 22:50:40 <-- zen_monkey has quit (Ping timeout) 22:56:27 <-- Optimizer has quit (Ping timeout) 22:59:12 --> zen_monkey has joined #instantbird 22:59:47 --> Optimizer has joined #instantbird 23:00:55 <-- zen_monkey has quit (Ping timeout) 23:02:26 --> zen_monkey has joined #instantbird 23:12:37 <-- zen_monkey has quit (Connection reset by peer)