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00:12:26 <-- flo-retina has quit (Ping timeout) 00:13:10 <instantbot> clokep@gmail.com denied review for attachment 2007 on bug 1419. 00:13:12 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1419 nor, --, ---, aletheia2, ASSI, Handle the remaining MODE responses (user mode in particular) 00:13:20 <clokep> And I think my work here is done... 00:16:34 * clokep agrees w/ flo...it's easier to just r+ things. ;) 00:21:45 --> rosonline has joined #instantbird 00:22:43 <-- rosonline has quit (Client exited) 00:23:33 --> rosonline has joined #instantbird 00:23:58 <-- Optimizer has quit (Ping timeout) 00:27:16 --> Optimizer has joined #instantbird 00:30:59 <-- chrisccoulson has quit (Quit: Ex-Chat) 00:38:18 <-- Mook_as has quit (Quit: Mook_as) 00:49:55 <-- Optimizer has quit (Ping timeout) 00:59:59 <-- rosonline has quit (Quit: Experimentem Instantbird 1.2 -- http://www.instantbird.com) 01:00:58 <instantbot> clokep@gmail.com requested review from florian@instantbird .org for attachment 2012 on bug 1712. 01:01:00 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1712 enh, --, ---, clokep, ASSI, Send long IRC messages in several parts 01:06:23 <clokep> I had told myself I was going to clear out my mq before writing more patches...but eh... 01:09:51 <-- wesj has quit (Input/output error) 01:26:54 <-- wnayes has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.3a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 01:31:26 --> Optimizer has joined #instantbird 01:41:18 --> Mook has joined #instantbird 01:50:41 <clokep> 'night! 01:51:13 <-- clokep has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.3a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 01:58:04 --> deltafalcon has joined #instantbird 02:09:00 --> mconley has joined #instantbird 02:35:45 <instant-buildbot> build #665 of linux-nightly-default is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/linux-nightly-default/builds/665 02:40:03 <-- Optimizer has quit (Ping timeout) 02:43:24 --> Optimizer has joined #instantbird 03:04:43 <-- Optimizer has quit (Ping timeout) 03:08:34 --> Optimizer has joined #instantbird 03:08:37 <-- mconley has quit (Input/output error) 03:22:56 --> flo-retina has joined #instantbird 03:22:56 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo-retina flo-retina 03:31:22 --> wesj has joined #instantbird 03:33:03 <-- wesj has quit (Ping timeout) 04:09:15 <instant-buildbot> build #753 of win32-nightly-default is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/win32-nightly-default/builds/753 04:45:12 --> jb has joined #instantbird 04:47:53 <-- Kaishi has quit (Quit: Kaishi) 05:24:38 <-- EionRobb has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 05:36:53 --> DGMurdockIII has joined #instantbird 05:37:55 <-- flo-retina has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.3a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 05:45:00 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/d30db418fd7c - Patrick Cloke - Bug 1457 - Make use of all WHOWAS 312/314 response pairs, r=aleth. 05:45:01 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/fa89c6203845 - Florian Quèze - Bug 1735 - Shutdown leak if there are opened conversations at shutdown, r=aleth. 05:45:02 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/52437093e47b - Florian Janssen - Bug 1475 - "Connect this account now."-label for checkbox misleading, r=clokep. 05:45:03 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/778e140443c5 - Benedikt Pfeifer - Bug 485 - Re-ordering conversation tabs with the keyboard is broken, r=clokep. 05:45:04 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/d43481fa4668 - Benedikt Pfeifer - Bug 1674 - Accesskey for Add-ons manager not localizable, r=clokep. 05:45:05 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/df0392aaf7af - aleth - Bug 1734 - Smiley regular expression problem in custom smiley themes, r=fqueze. 05:45:06 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/6a2a88d2c998 - Patrick Cloke - Bug 1739 - Founder should be considered higher than operator, r=fqueze. 05:45:07 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/e7e237578f53 - Florian Quèze - Bug 1725 - L10n repackaging doesn't work on a build from a source tarball, r=clokep. 05:46:10 <-- jb has quit (Ping timeout) 05:47:46 --> jb has joined #instantbird 05:55:54 <instant-buildbot> build #332 of linux-onCommit is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/linux-onCommit/builds/332 06:02:02 <-- Optimizer has quit (Ping timeout) 06:05:24 --> Optimizer has joined #instantbird 06:31:58 <-- Mook has quit (Quit: Mook) 06:48:46 <instant-buildbot> build #661 of macosx-nightly-default is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/macosx-nightly-default/builds/661 06:51:12 <-- Even1 has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.3a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 06:59:52 --> FeuerFliege has joined #instantbird 07:06:18 <instant-buildbot> build #319 of win32-onCommit is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/win32-onCommit/builds/319 07:29:21 <-- jb has quit (Ping timeout) 07:38:27 <-- Gizmokid2005 has quit (Ping timeout) 07:39:05 --> Gizmokid2005 has joined #instantbird 08:28:27 <-- DGMurdockIII has quit (Connection reset by peer) 08:45:52 --> jb has joined #instantbird 08:46:09 --> jb1 has joined #instantbird 08:47:55 <-- jb has quit (Ping timeout) 08:53:55 <-- Optimizer has quit (Ping timeout) 08:56:32 --> chrisccoulson has joined #instantbird 08:56:39 <-- chrisccoulson has quit (Client exited) 08:57:06 --> Optimizer has joined #instantbird 09:03:23 --> meh has joined #instantbird 09:48:27 --> gerard-majax has joined #instantbird 09:54:49 --> sawrubh has joined #instantbird 09:55:05 <sawrubh> can someone answer this : http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/120oif/we_are_mozilla_aua/c6rgo2r 09:55:23 <sawrubh> we have got an AMA going on mozilla and it would be really helpful. Thanks 10:11:01 <-- jb1 has quit (Quit: jb1) 10:14:22 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 10:14:22 * ChanServ sets mode +o clokep 10:17:01 <clokep> sawrubh: Give me a second and I can give you an answer, I don't have (nor wish to have) a Reddit account though. 10:17:25 <sawrubh> clokep: thanks :) 10:17:53 <sawrubh> out of curiosity, you joined after my question, how did you see it :P 10:18:02 <clokep> We log: http://log.bezut.info/instantbird/today/ 10:18:09 <sawrubh> :) 10:18:33 <clokep> I think most of us read the logs too, or at least search for our nicks in them... 10:19:08 <sawrubh> I think I like this channel :) 10:21:18 <clokep> Me too! :-D 10:25:46 <sawrubh> clokep: ping me, when you have the answer 10:27:12 <clokep> sawrubh: Yeah, I'm almost done. 10:27:18 <clokep> Although my breakfast might distract me. ;) 10:28:13 <sawrubh> clokep: np 10:28:18 * sawrubh goes to dance around 10:34:59 <-- Optimizer has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.3a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 10:35:21 --> Optimizer has joined #instantbird 10:36:00 <instantbot> New Instantbird (UI) bug 1740 filed by filipesbim@yahoo.com.br. 10:36:02 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1740 nor, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, start minimized 10:36:36 --> jb has joined #instantbird 10:36:43 * clokep thinks this might be tl;dr 10:39:02 <clokep> sawrubh: http://pastebin.instantbird.com/88279 10:41:54 <-- GeekShadow has quit (Ping timeout) 10:43:11 <clokep> sawrubh: If any other ones come up, feel free to ping me in here (although I'll be gone for a bit soon as I go to work). 10:46:10 --> GeekShadow has joined #instantbird 10:49:58 <clokep> sawrubh: So it actually seems extremely easy to make an account...so if you would prefer I post it, let me know. 10:57:21 <clokep> Meh I'll do it when I get to work if it hasn't been done yet... 10:59:02 <-- clokep has quit (Ping timeout) 11:43:58 --> rosonline has joined #instantbird 11:44:38 <-- rosonline has quit (Quit: Experimentem Instantbird 1.2 -- http://www.instantbird.com) 11:44:40 --> rosonline has joined #instantbird 11:58:48 --> clokep_work has joined #instantbird 11:58:48 * ChanServ sets mode +o clokep_work 12:02:47 <-- rosonline has quit (Ping timeout) 12:03:33 * clokep_work posted a response. 12:03:58 <clokep_work> Micbot: I couldn't find a dup for start minimized, so I encouraged him to file it. But I could have sworn we had it too. 12:06:42 <instantbot> clokep@gmail.com set the Resolution field on bug 1457 to FIXED. 12:06:44 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1457 min, --, 1.3, clokep, RESO FIXED, Make use of all WHOWAS 312/314 response pairs 12:06:57 --> rosonline has joined #instantbird 12:07:03 <instantbot> clokep@gmail.com set the Resolution field on bug 1735 to FIXED. 12:07:06 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1735 nor, --, 1.3, florian, RESO FIXED, Shutdown leak if there are opened conversations at shutdown 12:07:30 <-- rosonline has quit (Quit: Experimentem Instantbird 1.2 -- http://www.instantbird.com) 12:07:44 <instantbot> clokep@gmail.com set the Resolution field on bug 1475 to FIXED. 12:07:46 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1475 enh, --, 1.3, bugi, RESO FIXED, "Connect this account now."-label for checkbox misleading 12:10:26 <instantbot> clokep@gmail.com set the Resolution field on bug 485 to FIXED. 12:10:28 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=485 nor, --, 1.3, benediktp, RESO FIXED, Re-ordering conversation tabs with the keyboard is broken 12:10:56 <instantbot> clokep@gmail.com set the Resolution field on bug 1674 to FIXED. 12:10:59 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1674 nor, --, 1.3, benediktp, RESO FIXED, Accesskey for Add-ons manager not localizable 12:11:10 <-- jb has quit (Ping timeout) 12:12:18 <instantbot> clokep@gmail.com set the Resolution field on bug 1734 to FIXED. 12:12:23 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1734 nor, --, 1.3, aletheia2, RESO FIXED, Smiley regular expression problem in custom smiley themes 12:12:49 <instantbot> clokep@gmail.com set the Resolution field on bug 1739 to FIXED. 12:12:53 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1739 min, --, 1.3, clokep, RESO FIXED, Founder should be considered higher than operator 12:13:19 <instantbot> clokep@gmail.com set the Resolution field on bug 1725 to FIXED. 12:13:21 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1725 nor, --, 1.3, florian, RESO FIXED, L10n repackaging doesn't work on a build from a source tarball 12:13:36 <-- clokep_work has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.3a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 12:13:45 --> clokep_work has joined #instantbird 12:13:45 * ChanServ sets mode +o clokep_work 12:15:59 <sawrubh> clokep_work: sorry was off for a while 12:16:12 <sawrubh> but I see you've posted quite a good response, nice! 12:16:16 <sawrubh> thank you so much 12:17:21 <clokep_work> sawrubh: Of course. Thanks for letting us know about it. :) 12:17:31 <sawrubh> np 12:17:58 <clokep_work> But now that I have a captive audience. I do need to ask if you've tried Instantbird for IRC! :-D 12:18:53 <sawrubh> clokep_work: heh, actually I use IRCCloud because of it's persistent capability, although I've heard that instantbird is really good 12:19:07 <sawrubh> a few of my friends use it and they are happy :) 12:21:17 <clokep_work> :) 12:27:26 --> rosonline has joined #instantbird 12:33:31 <sawrubh> clokep_work: there are 2 of you having the same nick and being op..interesting 12:33:43 <sawrubh> I guess you get to do whatever you want when you're the Op :P 12:33:55 * sawrubh ducks 12:38:03 <clokep_work> sawrubh: What do you mean? There shouldn't be two of me online, my other computer is asleep now. 12:39:55 <sawrubh> clokep_work: I see 2 clokep_work in the Ops category..wonder if this is a fault with irccloud, irc.mozilla.org , #instantbird or I dunno 12:40:05 <sawrubh> clokep_work: sending a screenshot 12:40:12 --> jb has joined #instantbird 12:41:06 <clokep_work> irccloud, I'd guess. I only see one. :) 12:41:49 <-- jb has quit (Input/output error) 12:41:55 --> jb has joined #instantbird 12:47:39 * clokep_work wlil check out any screenshot though... 12:50:15 <sawrubh> yeah, I think it's not possible for 2 nicks which are similar to be connected at the same time 12:51:05 <sawrubh> clokep_work: http://i.imgur.com/SQpu2.png 12:52:03 <clokep_work> It's not. :) 12:52:28 <clokep_work> Yeah, Something is messed up w/ IRCCloud there. 12:52:33 <clokep_work> But it's only beta, cut them a break. ;) 12:53:37 <sawrubh> hah 12:54:55 * sawrubh goes to inform the creators of irccloud of their bug 12:57:00 <clokep_work> :) 12:59:39 <-- skeledrew has quit (Ping timeout) 13:00:25 <-- jb has quit (Ping timeout) 13:08:25 <clokep_work> That's not open source, right? 13:10:18 --> skeledrew has joined #instantbird 13:12:25 <sawrubh> https://github.com/irccloud 13:12:37 * sawrubh wonders if that's all the source 13:13:10 <sawrubh> clokep_work: btw one of dev just told me that was a bug with irccloud and has been fixed in the upcoming version 13:17:08 <clokep_work> sawrubh: Cool! :) 13:17:53 <clokep_work> I don't actually see irccloud source there, but I didn't look very hard... 13:19:02 <sawrubh> clokep_work: yeah, I asked the dev and he said and I qoute : "yup that's where all our code goes. most of it is an will probably remain closed source though" 13:19:17 <sawrubh> so I guess it's closed source 13:19:19 <sawrubh> :) 13:20:26 <clokep_work> Mmhmm. Fair enough. 13:20:34 <clokep_work> IRCCloud looks a bit prettier than Mibbit, I have to say. 13:21:40 <sawrubh> yeah, that's why I'm sticking to it and plus the feature to keep me logged into IRC :P 13:22:00 <sawrubh> and while I don't have to pay for it, it's pretty good 13:38:45 <clokep_work> Mmm...yes. Free is good. :) 13:38:58 <clokep_work> I don't really feel the need to persist on IRC, but we log this channel...so... 13:40:21 <dew> how is it free? 13:43:12 <clokep_work> Hmm...checkin-needed queue is still fairly long. =-o 13:49:14 --> mconley has joined #instantbird 14:05:10 <-- rosonline has quit (Quit: Experimentem Instantbird 1.2 -- http://www.instantbird.com) 14:05:41 --> jb has joined #instantbird 14:07:34 <-- jb has quit (Ping timeout) 14:09:15 --> jb has joined #instantbird 14:09:26 <-- jb has quit (Connection reset by peer) 14:09:28 --> jb1 has joined #instantbird 14:15:10 --> jb has joined #instantbird 14:15:29 --> jb2 has joined #instantbird 14:15:31 <-- jb1 has quit (Ping timeout) 14:15:35 <-- jb has quit (Connection reset by peer) 14:17:00 --> jb has joined #instantbird 14:17:10 <-- skeledrew has quit (Ping timeout) 14:17:21 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 14:17:21 * ChanServ sets mode +h aleth 14:17:29 <-- jb2 has quit (Ping timeout) 14:17:38 --> skeledrew has joined #instantbird 14:26:49 <aleth> oh, checkins :) better update then... 14:26:57 <-- aleth has quit (Quit: Au revoir) 14:27:01 <clokep_work> aleth: Update your repo?! ;) 14:27:12 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 14:27:12 * ChanServ sets mode +h aleth 14:30:19 <-- Optimizer has quit (Ping timeout) 14:31:15 <instantbot> aletheia2@fastmail.fm set the Resolution field on bug 1740 to DUPLICATE of bug 1680. 14:31:17 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1740 enh, --, ---, nobody, RESO DUPLICATE, start minimized 14:31:18 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1680 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Enable "minimize on startup" 14:33:36 --> Optimizer has joined #instantbird 14:36:03 --> flo-retina has joined #instantbird 14:36:03 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo-retina flo-retina 14:37:13 <flo-retina> clokep_work: I cut more than half of the checkin-needed list before going to sleep, so but I was pretty tired, so I ignored patches that I would want to double check, and patches that may not apply with just an hg import call. 14:44:42 <clokep_work> flo-retina: That's what I figured. :) Thanks for checking them in though! 14:44:56 * clokep_work wonders how he didn't find 1680. :( 14:48:28 <-- deltafalcon has quit (Connection reset by peer) 14:50:10 <instantbot> aletheia2@fastmail.fm requested review from clokep@gmail.com for attachment 2013 on bug 1419. 14:50:12 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1419 nor, --, ---, aletheia2, ASSI, Handle the remaining MODE responses (user mode in particular) 14:56:01 <clokep_work> aleth: " Also, it was actually your code ;) But I changed it." I was hoping you wouldn't notice that. :-D 14:56:50 <aleth> clokep_work: You could argue it was more legible before ;) 14:58:08 <clokep_work> aleth: Maybe I'll have you change it back. :P 14:58:25 <aleth> or change it both places :P 15:00:56 * clokep_work thinks aleth should feel free to look over bug 1511 too... 15:00:59 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1511 nor, --, ---, benediktp, ASSI, Possible to add duplicate accounts 15:01:04 <clokep_work> I just set that to flo since I think he had some specific ideas of how it should work. 15:01:08 <clokep_work> Oh...not the one I meant. :( 15:01:18 * clokep_work meant bug 1712 15:01:22 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1712 enh, --, ---, clokep, ASSI, Send long IRC messages in several parts 15:04:50 <-- FeuerFliege has quit (Connection reset by peer) 15:09:54 <-- flo-retina has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.3a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 15:26:37 <aleth> clokep_work: Looks alright to me at first glance, though I think you can save yourself the length < maxlength by using length >= maxlength in the first if clause. 15:34:30 <-- sawrubh has left #instantbird () 15:42:56 <clokep_work> aleth: Ah, maybe. 15:46:07 <clokep_work> Thanks. :) 15:46:24 <aleth> clokep_work: Looking at it again, I'm not sure my proposed fix is right, but something can probably be improved there... 15:47:22 <clokep_work> aleth: I think that does fix it actually, but I'd have to reproduce the issue first. 15:47:41 <aleth> I also wonder whether it might be useful to trim() each message before splitting 15:48:04 <clokep_work> It's handled already. 15:48:06 <clokep_work> Look closer. ;) 15:48:12 <aleth> OK :) 15:48:17 <clokep_work> That's what indexNext does. 15:48:19 <clokep_work> It skips spaces. 15:54:42 <aleth> But a message might fit in length if you remove trailing spaces. 15:55:19 <aleth> OK, these are edge cases... 15:55:55 <aleth> Basically I'm concerned about instances where there is more than one space. 15:56:00 <aleth> (consecutively) 15:56:11 <clokep_work> Ah, I see what you're saying. 15:56:18 <clokep_work> Well I was expecting users to not do silly things. ;) 15:56:31 <aleth> Some people double space after periods. Silly, I know... 15:56:43 * clokep_work notes he's one of those people. 15:56:44 <aleth> ;) 15:56:59 <clokep_work> aleth: Yes, we could trim at each step and only track 1 index. 15:57:23 <aleth> Yes, or ensure some other way that all of the split whitespace is removed 16:10:52 <-- jb has quit (Ping timeout) 16:10:58 --> jb has joined #instantbird 16:21:01 <-- gerard-majax has quit (Ping timeout) 16:25:41 <-- Optimizer has quit (Ping timeout) 16:26:31 <-- jb has quit (Ping timeout) 16:27:28 --> Optimizer has joined #instantbird 16:31:35 --> flo-retina has joined #instantbird 16:31:36 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo-retina flo-retina 16:34:06 --> Even has joined #instantbird 16:34:06 * ChanServ sets mode +o Even 16:45:15 --> jb has joined #instantbird 16:47:07 --> Mook_as has joined #instantbird 16:47:14 <-- jb has quit (Quit: jb) 16:47:59 --> jb has joined #instantbird 16:55:32 --> gerard-majax has joined #instantbird 17:06:22 --> DGMurdockIII has joined #instantbird 17:18:40 --> mikk_s has joined #instantbird 17:35:14 <clokep_work> Mook_as: Your fault? https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=805493 17:35:20 <-- mikk_s has left #instantbird () 17:36:59 <Mook_as> what, the bug I just filed? :p 17:37:19 <clokep_work> Mook_as: Ah, I didn't recognize your AS email address. :) 17:38:03 <Mook_as> let's just say the channel isn't _actually_ named #firefox ;) 17:38:28 * clokep_work has no idea what that means... 17:39:36 <flo-retina> Mook_as: couldn't we just change the conversation icon, and have an icon per known IRC network? 17:40:54 <Mook_as> sure, that would work 17:41:04 <Mook_as> (for known networks, anyway) 17:42:11 <clokep_work> I mean we could display the network name (or server name) somewhere... 17:42:31 <Mook_as> ooh. looks like my other IRC server (on the local network, so it makes no sense to be known) does run enough of a httpd to have the default apache icon as favicon.ico 17:42:31 <clokep_work> It's better than how we treat buddies currently though. ;) 17:42:52 <Mook_as> well, for buddies, it doesn't matter that much how you talk, it's the same person 17:42:57 <Mook_as> for MUCs... that's different people :) 17:43:06 <clokep_work> On different networks? Not necessarily.... 17:43:37 <Mook_as> oh, I assumed if you were grouping buddies they're the same person :) 17:43:59 <Mook_as> but, yeah, if you have single-user chats to separate people with the same name... ugh 17:44:14 --> chrisccoulson has joined #instantbird 17:46:53 <clokep_work> Yeah... 17:47:03 <clokep_work> Mook_as: Using the favicon is reasonable (and we might have a bug about that somewhere?) 17:50:59 <aleth> Mook_as: for now, use the tooltip ;) 17:51:18 <Mook_as> for now, I'm looking at how long the user list is ;) 17:51:27 <aleth> I think we do have a bug about that, it's in with the "improve IRC account settings" one 17:51:47 <clokep_work> aleth: Ah, probably. That can be more incrementally done than "everything at once" though. :-D 17:51:48 <Mook_as> (it's extra amusing because the order changed between yesterday and today) 17:52:19 <clokep_work> That seems like that shouldn't happen... 17:52:28 <clokep_work> (We should use the account name as a tie breaker when ordering.) 17:52:34 <aleth> clokep_work: I think it's one of those bugs that serve as a place to dump ideas... 17:52:47 <clokep_work> aleth: Which generally means nothing can come out of them. :( 17:53:01 <aleth> clokep_work: Until someone can be bothered ;) 17:53:45 <clokep_work> aleth: Until someone gets a sensible way of doing it. 17:53:59 <aleth> clokep_work: Isn't that almost the same thing? 17:54:09 <clokep_work> aleth: Mostly. :) 17:54:20 <clokep_work> aleth: I mostly havent' touched it because I'm scared of the UI considerations. :-[ 17:56:13 <aleth> Mook_as: I suspect the ordering is just determined by speed of server response 17:56:41 <clokep_work> Yes, but it shouldn't be. 17:56:54 <aleth> clokep_work: Well, that would imply session restore or something like that 17:58:26 <Mook_as> I suspect it was partly because it wasn't auto-joined yesterday 17:58:31 <clokep_work> aleth: No it wouldn't. It should be the same everytime, I stayed this above. 17:58:37 <clokep_work> 1:52:19 PM - clokep_work: That seems like that shouldn't happen... 17:58:37 <clokep_work> 1:52:28 PM - clokep_work: (We should use the account name as a tie breaker when ordering.) 17:58:55 <Mook_as> or we can blame it on tbird :p 18:00:36 <aleth> clokep_work: I saw that and didn't understand it. Ordering tabs? 18:03:16 <aleth> Or are you actually talking about conversations on hold and I am missing the point :-S 18:06:30 <clokep_work> aleth: I'm talking about conversations on hold. 18:06:40 <clokep_work> But Thunderbird just lists thema ll out, there is no tabs. 18:07:07 <aleth> clokep_work: Right, sorry, I forgot about the TB part 18:07:22 <aleth> Yeah, we should order that list. 18:07:43 <aleth> (in the way you suggested) 18:09:06 * clokep_work doesn't know what binding that is. 18:09:10 <clokep_work> Mook_as: should file a bug though! 18:09:11 <aleth> We currently just sort by title 18:09:19 <aleth> http://lxr.instantbird.org/instantbird/source/instantbird/content/blist.js#710 18:10:26 <Mook_as> I'll wait for tomorrow, maybe it'll end up being consistent 18:19:59 <clokep_work> Until one day it isn't....;) 18:21:38 <clokep_work> Warning: Unused mode parameters: [5c#C5,7j#R5,3k#K5,10m#M5,5n#N5]:10 (o_O) 18:21:47 <clokep_work> That's a....not useful error message, I think. 18:22:06 <aleth> unicode mode parameters? O_o 18:22:20 * clokep_work doesn't know. 18:25:57 --> mikk_s has joined #instantbird 18:26:09 <-- mikk_s has quit (Client exited) 18:26:56 <Mook_as> no, that's for things like how fast can people join before flood protection comes in 18:28:24 <clokep_work> Yeah that sounds vaguely familiar... 18:28:57 <aleth> Probably an unhandled mode message in there too... 18:29:40 <Mook_as> http://www.unrealircd.com/files/docs/unreal32docs.html#feature_antiflood or something 18:30:45 <clokep_work> Yeah so...there's nothing we can do with that information. 18:31:07 <clokep_work> I feel like a lot of IRC is built around theoretical issues that could occur that I really don't care about. 18:31:15 <clokep_work> But maybe because we don't have issues w/ malicious users... 18:31:17 <aleth> bug 1662 probably 18:31:20 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1662 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Unhandled IRC MODE message: +j 18:33:02 <clokep_work> aleth: Seems like it, yeah. 18:33:03 <aleth> Those sound more like server-internal options than things to expose to users 18:33:38 <Mook_as> they're useful when annoying people hop on moznet, yeah. happens... infrequently; about once a year or something? maybe longer? 18:33:38 <clokep_work> aleth: I agree, but I guess they could be exposed so that someone can change it for the channel... 18:34:01 <clokep_work> aleth: But it's not like we'll rate limit our sends according to those, that would be insane. 18:34:47 <aleth> Yes, I agree... 18:35:25 <Mook_as> yeah, it seems more like a feature that can be exposed directly to the user, as in, "if you want to touch this, you should know enough to be able to deal with everything yourself" 18:35:52 <aleth> Anyone who knows enough to send /mode +j whatever is free to do so ;) 18:37:00 <aleth> But I'm not sure we should handle that message by parsing the details and putting a "flood protection xyz" system mesage in the channel 18:37:14 <aleth> Sounds like noise to me. 18:37:40 <aleth> I suppose one could make the display conditional on being op for that channel or something... 18:37:44 <clokep_work> I would r+ > /dev/null 18:38:10 <clokep_work> (Although /someone/ is going to want to see it...) 18:38:55 <aleth> "All other IRC clients show it" ;) 18:40:25 <clokep_work> Most IRC clients are a thin layer over telnet. :( 18:40:48 <dew> really? 18:44:44 <clokep_work> dew: What do you mean "really?" 18:45:40 <clokep_work> Don't take that statement literally, they're not like calling telnet underneath. 18:45:52 <aleth> dew: that's not what your typical IRC client looks like ;) https://i.minus.com/jcawpnKlYnwbi.png 18:46:33 <aleth> They tend to show IRC's origins of being run in a terminal. 18:51:25 <dew> oh sorry 18:51:43 <clokep_work> No need to apologize! 18:51:50 <clokep_work> I just wasn't sure what you meant. 18:53:42 <dew> I thought you meant that literally and I was blown away 18:57:33 <clokep_work> Nooooo. 18:57:41 <clokep_work> Just giving good quotes for someone to put into a quotes database. ;) 18:58:28 <aleth> old pros don't need IRC clients, they just send the right commands :P 18:59:02 * clokep_work has done that in a pinch. :( 19:00:39 <dew> haha I'm not skilled enough 19:00:49 <dew> I remember when i broke my linux kernel... 19:01:21 <dew> luckily I had an old flash drive with arch on it. Come to think of it I still haven't fixed it. I guess I'll reinstall :( 19:01:50 <clokep_work> :) 19:17:29 <clokep_work> aleth: Is that your bubble's light? 19:19:28 <-- Optimizer has quit (Ping timeout) 19:19:53 <aleth> clokep_work: on the screenshot? this one https://addons.instantbird.org/en-US/instantbird/addon/324 19:20:30 <clokep_work> aleth: It's fancy looking. 19:20:36 <clokep_work> Very Mac-esque. 19:20:55 <aleth> Just another variant I played with... 19:21:01 <clokep_work> Mmhmm. :) 19:21:04 * clokep_work uses simple at work still. ;) 19:22:07 --> Optimizer has joined #instantbird 19:23:46 <aleth> Simple's quite useful too sometimes, for sheer density 19:24:40 <aleth> (or that classic IRC feel ;) ) 19:25:31 <clokep_work> Hah. I use it because I feel like it's less obvious. 19:25:50 <aleth> Didn't someone ask for a 'boss button' recently? ;) 19:26:30 * aleth suspects the nick colours give it away... 19:27:02 <clokep_work> I frequently have open a handful of Lync windows oto... 19:27:23 <aleth> Soon they will be gone ;) 19:32:46 <clokep_work> I hope so. :) 19:33:21 <aleth> Is that protocol basically ready? 19:33:51 <clokep_work> flo-retina needs to review the Makefiles. 19:34:00 <clokep_work> I'm sure it'll need an iteration or two. 19:34:02 --> wnayes has joined #instantbird 19:34:21 <clokep_work> Ah wnayes must just be getting up...those college students. ;) 19:35:01 <wnayes> clokep_work: Nah, I keep a pretty consistent schedule in the school year :) 19:35:22 <clokep_work> Good to know. :) 19:45:35 <-- Gizmokid2005 has quit (Ping timeout) 19:49:00 <-- DGMurdockIII has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.89 [Firefox 17.0/20121023124120]) 19:54:05 --> Gizmokid2005 has joined #instantbird 20:08:39 <-- Optimizer has quit (Ping timeout) 20:09:19 <-- jb has quit (Ping timeout) 20:09:38 --> Optimizer has joined #instantbird 20:17:22 --> EionRobb has joined #instantbird 20:29:43 --> Kaishi has joined #instantbird 20:48:12 <-- clokep_work has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.3a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 20:49:19 --> Optimizer1 has joined #instantbird 20:49:27 <-- Optimizer has quit (Ping timeout) 21:09:47 <-- Optimizer1 has quit (Ping timeout) 21:11:26 --> Optimizer has joined #instantbird 21:16:15 --> jb has joined #instantbird 21:16:51 <-- meh has quit (Quit: I don't want to live on this planet anymore.) 21:26:01 <-- skeledrew has quit (Ping timeout) 21:37:00 --> skeledrew has joined #instantbird 21:54:10 <-- gerard-majax has quit (Ping timeout) 22:04:52 <-- jb has quit (Quit: jb) 22:10:50 <-- Optimizer has quit (Ping timeout) 22:14:44 --> Optimizer has joined #instantbird 22:17:56 <-- aleth has quit (Input/output error) 22:19:47 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 22:19:48 * ChanServ sets mode +o clokep 22:41:42 <clokep> Good evening. :) 22:43:16 <EionRobb> hi mister clokep 22:45:25 <clokep> Mister is a funny word when spelled out... 22:46:02 <EionRobb> and missus 22:46:17 <EionRobb> not sure what the expansion of "ms" is though 22:47:20 <clokep> milliseconds? ;) 22:47:24 <EionRobb> lol 22:47:46 <clokep> Miss though. 22:49:49 <Mook_as> just don't go around calling people as mme. 23:03:26 <-- Optimizer has quit (Ping timeout) 23:03:50 <flo-retina> Mook_as: what's the problem with "Mme"? 23:03:55 <-- chrisccoulson has quit (Ping timeout) 23:04:58 <Mook_as> it's weird in English? :) 23:05:44 * flo-retina is now known as florian 23:07:06 --> Optimizer has joined #instantbird 23:09:55 <clokep> I've been told it makes people feel old. ;) 23:29:28 <-- Optimizer has quit (Ping timeout) 23:32:49 --> Optimizer has joined #instantbird 23:45:01 <-- Optimizer has quit (Ping timeout) 23:49:02 --> Optimizer has joined #instantbird 23:53:49 --> zen_monkey has joined #instantbird 23:54:11 <-- zen_monkey has left #instantbird (Saliendo)