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00:01:13 <-- xavior has quit (Quit: Leaving) 00:02:35 --> XaviorPenguin has joined #instantbird 00:03:00 <XaviorPenguin> There, now I am in Instantbird IRC 00:03:52 <XaviorPenguin> copied my profile from my Win7 partition and all my contacts are up! 00:07:17 <Mook_as> oops, went to a meeting and missing flo's ping :\ would check that ASM_SUFFIX is "s" (make -C ... echo-variable-ASM_SUFFIX), I guess? 00:14:32 <clokep> Thanks for taking a look Mook_as. 00:15:36 <Mook_as> I need that to help me transition into work. debugging crashes that look like memory corruption isn't nearly as fun :p 00:16:33 <clokep> Mook_as: You're debugging the MSN prpl? 00:16:43 <Mook_as> no, komodo/pyxpcom 00:16:55 <Mook_as> I _do_ still have my _as tail ;) 00:17:06 * clokep was about to copy openkomodo.... 00:17:15 <clokep> And then I realized my server has been down for a month. :-/ 00:17:19 * clokep sighs. 00:18:23 <Mook_as> if you're going to checkout, using the 7.1.x branch might be better for right now. 00:18:42 <clokep> Opposed to the 8? 00:19:08 <Mook_as> as opposed to trunk (yeah, 8) 00:19:22 <Mook_as> unless, of course, you feel like debugging crashes with me :D 00:19:56 <clokep> No. :) 00:20:33 <clokep> Any chance you know the SVN URL by heart? :-D 00:20:50 <Mook_as> http://svn.openkomodo.com/repos/openkomodo/branches/7.1.x/ 00:20:59 <Mook_as> (by awesomebar instead, but close enough) 00:23:28 * clokep pulls http://svn.openkomodo.com/repos/openkomodo/ ;) 00:24:41 <Mook_as> we should probably stop spamming the logs and go to #komodo, for the sake of the folks who actually read the logs ;) 00:37:45 --> markh has joined #instantbird 00:39:38 <-- XaviorPenguin has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2 -- http://www.instantbird.com) 00:43:53 * clokep has SIPE building on both Linux AND Windows now! :) 00:49:25 <Mook_as> \o/ ...what's that again? XD 00:50:08 <clokep> Microsoft Lync / Office Communicator connectivity. 00:50:13 <clokep> (Which is what I use at work.) 00:50:27 <Mook_as> ah. good dogfooding oppurtunity. 00:50:43 <Mook_as> (let's all pretend I know how to spell, please) 00:51:25 * clokep mumbles about people using GTalk for work... 01:03:48 <-- rosonline has quit (Ping timeout) 01:04:03 <-- Mook_as has quit (Quit: gone) 01:08:39 --> rosonline has joined #instantbird 01:31:49 <-- rosonline has quit (Ping timeout) 01:36:19 --> rosonline has joined #instantbird 02:21:50 <-- rosonline has quit (Quit: Experimentem Instantbird 1.2 -- http://www.instantbird.com) 02:28:34 <instant-buildbot> build #658 of linux-nightly-default is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/linux-nightly-default/builds/658 02:30:56 --> Mook has joined #instantbird 02:41:50 <-- wnayes has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.3a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 03:44:03 <instantbot> clokep@gmail.com cancelled review?(florian@instantbird .org) for attachment 1918 on bug 976. 03:44:04 <instantbot> clokep@gmail.com requested review from florian@instantbird .org for attachment 1948 on bug 976. 03:44:06 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=976 enh, --, ---, clokep, ASSI, Support Microsoft Office Communicator protocol (SIPE) 03:47:05 <instantbot> clokep@gmail.com cancelled review?(florian@instantbird .org) for attachment 1919 on bug 976. 03:47:06 <instantbot> clokep@gmail.com cancelled review?(florian@instantbird .org) for attachment 1920 on bug 976. 03:47:07 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=976 enh, --, ---, clokep, ASSI, Support Microsoft Office Communicator protocol (SIPE) 03:49:27 <instantbot> clokep@gmail.com cancelled review?(florian@instantbird .org) for attachment 1923 on bug 976. 03:49:28 <instantbot> clokep@gmail.com cancelled review?(florian@instantbird .org) for attachment 1924 on bug 976. 03:49:29 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=976 enh, --, ---, clokep, ASSI, Support Microsoft Office Communicator protocol (SIPE) 03:49:51 <clokep> Bugzilla is slow when uploading big patches... :( 03:52:50 <instantbot> clokep@gmail.com requested review from florian@instantbird .org for attachment 1951 on bug 976. 03:52:54 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=976 enh, --, ---, clokep, ASSI, Support Microsoft Office Communicator protocol (SIPE) 03:55:23 <instantbot> clokep@gmail.com requested review from florian@instantbird .org for attachment 1952 on bug 976. 03:55:26 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=976 enh, --, ---, clokep, ASSI, Support Microsoft Office Communicator protocol (SIPE) 03:56:17 <clokep> florian1: So I think those patches are more reasonable....and split up better. Two of them are raw SIPE code, one of them is glib/libxml code, one of them is Makefile changes (+ misc) and one is changes to the SIPE code. 03:56:25 <clokep> Should be easier to review. 03:58:59 <-- clokep has quit (Ping timeout) 04:10:23 --> zen_monkey has joined #instantbird 04:28:07 <-- markh has left #instantbird () 04:30:53 <-- zen_monkey has quit (Quit: Saliendo) 04:35:54 <-- DGMurdockIII has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.89 [Firefox 16.0/20121002073616]) 04:48:27 <-- jb has quit (Ping timeout) 04:49:26 --> jb has joined #instantbird 05:04:15 <-- jb has quit (Ping timeout) 05:31:22 --> groovecoder has joined #instantbird 05:36:25 --> Optimizer has joined #instantbird 05:50:54 <-- EionRobb has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 05:57:16 <-- groovecoder has quit (Input/output error) 05:57:37 --> groovecoder has joined #instantbird 05:58:43 <instant-buildbot> build #646 of macosx-nightly-default is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/macosx-nightly-default/builds/646 06:01:14 <-- Kaishi has quit (Ping timeout) 06:01:37 --> Kaishi has joined #instantbird 06:08:34 <-- groovecoder has quit (Input/output error) 06:15:25 <instant-buildbot> build #739 of win32-nightly-default is complete: Failure [failed shell_3] Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/win32-nightly-default/builds/739 06:43:17 --> barlas has joined #instantbird 06:44:00 <-- Optimizer has quit (Ping timeout) 06:47:19 --> Optimizer has joined #instantbird 06:49:25 <-- flo has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.3a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 06:49:37 <-- florian1 has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.3a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 07:01:04 <-- Optimizer has quit (Ping timeout) 07:03:58 --> Optimizer has joined #instantbird 07:46:24 <-- micahg has quit (Ping timeout) 07:47:22 --> micahg has joined #instantbird 07:48:20 <-- micahg has quit (Connection reset by peer) 07:48:30 --> micahg has joined #instantbird 07:50:47 <-- Optimizer has quit (Ping timeout) 07:54:01 --> Optimizer has joined #instantbird 08:18:31 <-- Optimizer has quit (Ping timeout) 08:21:24 --> Optimizer has joined #instantbird 08:22:03 --> flo-retina has joined #instantbird 08:22:33 * flo-retina is now known as florian 09:14:53 <-- chrisccoulson has quit (Ping timeout) 09:29:42 --> chrisccoulson has joined #instantbird 09:38:59 <-- Optimizer has quit (Ping timeout) 09:41:14 --> Optimizer has joined #instantbird 09:52:56 <florian> apparently the brokenness of the ppc build wasn't that bad 10:01:03 <florian> https://twitter.com/failometer :-D 10:01:58 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 10:01:58 * ChanServ sets mode +o clokep 10:08:36 <florian> clokep: good morning! :) 10:08:47 <florian> the "Suspended computer with Thunderbird open." STR for the twitter issue seems to work 10:09:56 <florian> the account still thinks it's connected, but it doesn't receive anything any more 10:10:22 <florian> and my irc account didn't get disconnected while the laptop was sleeping 10:17:21 <clokep> florian: Good to know. :) 10:17:29 <clokep> Sorry you had to go to such lengths to reproduce. 10:17:53 <florian> now if only I could understand how to make a capture filter on wireshark, I could know if the connection still exists 10:19:59 <clokep> Are you trying to filter between IPs or what? 10:20:20 <florian> I wanted to keep only https traffic 10:21:02 <florian> filtering by process id would be ideal of course, but I'm not sure that's possible at the network interface level 10:23:26 <-- Optimizer has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.3a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 10:23:32 --> Optimizer has joined #instantbird 10:26:10 <clokep> Yeah I don't think you have that info. 10:26:15 <clokep> florian: How long did you sleep it for? 10:26:35 <florian> I pressed a key as soon as I saw the screen was off 10:27:47 <clokep> For IRC we have a fairly long socket timeout. 10:28:11 <clokep> http://lxr.instantbird.org/instantbird/source/chat/protocols/irc/irc.js#549 10:28:38 <florian> my point was mostly that if IRC was still connected, it means the sockets aren't forcefully closed by the OS when going into sleep 10:28:50 --> meh has joined #instantbird 10:29:33 <clokep> Ah. 10:30:30 <clokep> (Regardless, a 5 minute time out on R/W seems excessive. :-D) 10:35:25 <florian> I guess looking at what's going on with NSPR_LOG_MODULES=nsHttp will give more interesting results than wireshark 10:37:46 <-- barlas has quit (Ping timeout) 10:41:03 <clokep> On HTTPS, almost definitely...I would think. 10:44:41 --> barlas has joined #instantbird 10:47:17 <-- Kaishi has quit (Ping timeout) 10:55:47 <florian> so the whole http code is complicated, because it keeps connections around after their request is done, just in case they could be reused later. 11:03:59 <florian> bah, the STR aren't as reliable as I thought 11:04:20 <florian> this time the stream is still alive after sleeping the computer and waking it up 11:09:25 <-- Optimizer has quit (Ping timeout) 11:09:58 <florian> the mac universal build finished 11:10:03 <florian> make package fails though :-/ 11:10:14 --> Optimizer has joined #instantbird 11:15:47 <florian> clokep: re bug 1457, I think what we used to have was displaying the last received one, which was the oldest. If we display only one, we probably want the newest 11:15:50 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1457 min, --, ---, clokep, ASSI, Make use of all WHOWAS 312/314 response pairs 11:52:29 --> clokep_work has joined #instantbird 11:52:29 * ChanServ sets mode +o clokep_work 11:58:46 <clokep_work> florian: Ah, you're probably right. :) 12:02:17 <clokep_work> Hmmm...in that case I think we should not keep the whole list but not overwrite the data if it exists already -- we already clear out the whois information each time it is reqeusted. 12:03:33 <florian> clokep_work: are we sure all servers send it in the same order? 12:06:37 <clokep_work> florian: No, Moznet is the only server we've ever seen send more than one. 12:06:48 <florian> oh, ok 12:23:42 <-- Optimizer has quit (Ping timeout) 12:27:14 --> Optimizer has joined #instantbird 12:31:16 <-- avidal has quit (Input/output error) 12:31:44 --> avidal has joined #instantbird 12:31:50 <clokep_work> Is Kerberos a common library installed on linux? 12:32:19 <clokep_work> (Well libkrb5 or whatever the library is called) 12:33:04 <florian> not sure 12:34:33 * clokep_work was hoping aleth or Even could answer that maybe? 12:34:45 <clokep_work> (Or anyone else here who thinks they're a Linux guru. ;)) 12:36:42 <florian> clokep_work: if you have an ubuntu around, just check if it's there by default or if you installed it ;) 12:38:00 <florian> so now that I've fixed the packaging code, I have a packaged build that crashes at startup 12:38:27 <florian> (and I must admit I'm not that surprised, as the packaged build weighted 3MB less than the latest nightly) 12:39:15 <clokep_work> Package: libkrb5-3, State: installed, Automatically installed: no 12:39:16 <clokep_work> :( 12:39:57 <clokep_work> Required by smbclient...and who doesn't have that installed? ;) 12:40:43 <florian> do you mean "who needs SIPE but not smb?", right? 12:40:46 <florian> s/do// 12:42:44 <clokep_work> Probably that too. :) 12:42:59 <clokep_work> I'm more of concerned about linking against it and having it cause crashes if that library isn't available at all. 12:43:04 * florian hasn't needed smb in a long while 12:48:20 <clokep_work> :P Fine. 12:49:00 <clokep_work> (I'm wondering if you can still use the NTLM authentication that's part of SIPE if we compile it with Kerberos enabled but you don't have Kerberos available...if that makes sense?) 12:50:12 <florian> do you mean "if you can still use SIPE if we compile with kerberos but it's not on the system"? 12:50:52 <clokep_work> Yes. I mean obviously you won't be able to use the Kerberos authentication method, but there's a different authentication method as well. 12:51:13 <florian> how is kerberos linked? 12:51:32 <clokep_work> It's not, right now. ;) 12:51:33 <florian> using dl_open (or equivalent) calls, or just linked from the makefile? 12:51:56 <clokep_work> I'll check. 12:52:05 <clokep_work> I think just in makeifles. 12:52:57 <clokep_work> Well dl_open isn't in the source at all... 12:53:08 <florian> I said "or equivalent" 12:53:13 <florian> g_module, etc... 12:58:32 <florian> so the PPC build works, the i386 build works, but the universal build (that just merges the two) crashes at startup 12:58:34 <florian> :( 12:59:31 <clokep_work> :-/ 12:59:41 <clokep_work> (Yes, krb5 is just directly linked into it...) 13:00:55 <-- barlas has quit (Connection reset by peer) 13:06:11 --> mikk_s has joined #instantbird 13:24:58 <-- mikk_s has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2 -- http://www.instantbird.com) 13:26:22 <clokep_work> florian: BTW my question about Mozilla Gear...I wasn't expecting them to pay for it or anything, it'd just be nice if we could get the logistics for free. :) 13:39:48 <-- skeledrew has quit (Ping timeout) 13:45:26 --> skeledrew has joined #instantbird 13:51:00 --> mconley has joined #instantbird 14:04:25 <florian> after a rebuild, my universal build works 14:04:43 <florian> so I suspect the previous build was busted by the same thing that busted the packaging 14:07:36 <florian> clokep_work: should I just go ahead and push the moz15 update, or do you want to have a look at the patches in bug 1488? 14:07:40 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1488 nor, --, ---, florian, NEW, Update to Mozilla 15 14:12:56 <clokep_work> florian: I looked briefly. 14:13:00 <clokep_work> But go ahead and push. 14:17:23 <avidal> got my xulrunner hello world going, so that's cool :P 14:24:35 <-- deltafalcon has quit (Client exited) 14:24:49 --> deltafalcon has joined #instantbird 14:27:13 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/43332aa5e2b0 - Florian Quèze - Bug 1488 - Update to Mozilla 15. 14:35:04 <clokep_work> :) 14:42:52 <-- Optimizer has quit (Ping timeout) 14:46:23 --> Optimizer has joined #instantbird 15:03:29 <-- micahg has quit (Ping timeout) 15:05:16 --> micahg has joined #instantbird 15:48:34 <-- Optimizer has quit (Ping timeout) 15:48:48 --> jb has joined #instantbird 15:51:53 --> Optimizer has joined #instantbird 15:55:28 <-- micahg has quit (Quit: Leaving) 15:55:42 --> micahg_ has joined #instantbird 16:02:46 <-- wesj has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.3a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 16:02:48 --> wesj has joined #instantbird 16:26:01 <-- jb has quit (Ping timeout) 16:27:24 --> jb has joined #instantbird 16:28:14 <-- jb has quit (Connection reset by peer) 16:28:17 --> jb1 has joined #instantbird 16:30:35 <-- deltafalcon has quit (Client exited) 16:31:11 <-- jb1 has quit (Ping timeout) 16:31:49 --> jb has joined #instantbird 16:34:13 <avidal> man, OSS licenses are confusing if you don't have a lot of exposure mixing projects 16:37:06 <avidal> if instantbird is available under the mozilla tri-license, and I snag a block of code from one of the files and include it in a separate file; how do I properly attribute? Do I decorate the function, stating that it's from instantbird and licensed under the mozilla tri-license? Do I put something in the license header for that file stating that parts of it 16:37:06 <avidal> are from instantbird? What if I change the function and only use a small snippet? 16:39:49 <clokep_work> avidal: Instantbird is licensed under MPL 2, not the tri-license. 16:39:59 <avidal> Well, there's a start 16:40:02 <clokep_work> If you change the function you it is still licensed under the original license. 16:40:32 <avidal> Right, but how am I supposed to attribute the function back to instantbird? Document the function's license above the actual function? 16:44:08 <clokep_work> MPL usually works on a per file basis. 16:44:21 <clokep_work> But I guess you could say that the following function is MPL, etc. 16:44:29 <clokep_work> What function are you trying to use? 16:44:34 * clokep_work doesn't like theoretical discussions. 16:44:55 <clokep_work> (Do you know what you're going to license your code under? If it's going to be under MPL 2 then just don't care and use whatever you want.) 16:45:02 <clokep_work> Although we'd appreciate it if you upstream fixes. :) 16:46:55 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 16:46:55 * ChanServ sets mode +h Mic 16:47:22 <-- Mic has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 16:47:38 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 16:47:39 * ChanServ sets mode +h Mic 16:48:06 --> mikk_s has joined #instantbird 16:48:14 <-- mikk_s has quit (Quit: mikk_s) 16:48:29 <clokep_work> avidal: Note that I'm no licensing expert, but that's my understanding. ;) 16:48:39 <clokep_work> We use code from other Mozilla projects and just C&P it in, it's all MPL. 16:48:44 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 16:48:44 * ChanServ sets mode +h aleth 16:48:49 <avidal> I'd probably use MPL just for ease of licensing 16:48:51 <clokep_work> If you want to attribute it somewhere...you'd need to add another comment block somewhere, I think. 16:49:08 <clokep_work> (The MPL 1.1 has a decent template you could use, I suppose.) 16:49:12 * clokep_work goes home. 16:49:42 <-- clokep_work has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.3a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 16:52:34 <florian> avidal: attributing the origin of the code is useful, because it helps you remember the where you took it from, and when you debug something, you can check if the upstream has already fixed a bug in that area of the code 16:53:13 <avidal> i'll keep it in mind as i hack on the project 16:53:19 <avidal> i haven't even gotten anywhere yet 16:53:23 <avidal> i don't want to bog myself down in silly details 16:58:59 <-- meh has quit (Ping timeout) 17:05:11 <-- Mic has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 17:07:01 --> Mook_as has joined #instantbird 17:15:49 <-- Optimizer has quit (Ping timeout) 17:15:52 --> aleth1 has joined #instantbird 17:16:12 <-- aleth1 has quit (Quit: Au revoir) 17:16:15 <-- aleth has quit (Ping timeout) 17:16:17 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 17:16:17 * ChanServ sets mode +h aleth 17:16:42 <aleth> uh, IB just crashed :( 17:16:55 <aleth> that almost never happens... 17:17:34 <florian> it happened to me several times today, but my build was busted ;) 17:17:38 <-- florian has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.3a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 17:18:12 --> jb1 has joined #instantbird 17:18:24 <-- jb has quit (Ping timeout) 17:18:39 --> meh has joined #instantbird 17:18:57 <aleth> well, you're on moz15 already too ;) 17:19:28 --> Optimizer has joined #instantbird 17:31:37 <clokep> aleth: Do you have the crash report? 17:31:57 <aleth> clokep: I posted it, yes 17:32:26 <aleth> Umm, how do I find it? 17:33:09 <clokep> openDialog("about:crashes") in the error console. ;) 17:33:09 <aleth> just shows how rarely IB crashes ;) 17:33:14 --> Tomek has joined #instantbird 17:33:27 <clokep> :) 17:34:02 <-- jb1 has quit (Ping timeout) 17:36:22 <aleth> copy/paste from that dialog is quite nonexistent/broken :/ 17:36:51 <clokep> Yup 17:37:09 <aleth> adda0ea1-533c-4dc0-9d88-91cb92121012, fwiw 17:38:16 <clokep> http://crash-stats.instantbird.com/report/index/adda0ea1-533c-4dc0-9d88-91cb92121012 17:38:46 * clokep gets to see what extensions aleth uses now... 17:39:25 <instantbot> clokep@gmail.com set the Resolution field on bug 1488 to FIXED. 17:39:27 <aleth> lots installed probably, most of them are disabled... 17:39:27 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1488 nor, --, ---, florian, RESO FIXED, Update to Mozilla 15 17:41:07 <aleth> Hmm, so it just failed somewhere deep down in a library? 17:41:53 <clokep> Looks like it. 17:41:59 <aleth> Oh well. 17:42:08 <aleth> If it doesn't happen again... 17:43:21 <-- Tomek has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2 -- http://www.instantbird.com) 17:45:40 --> jb has joined #instantbird 17:45:55 <-- jb has quit (Connection reset by peer) 17:46:06 --> jb has joined #instantbird 17:47:44 <-- jb has quit (Ping timeout) 18:28:47 <instantbot> clokep@gmail.com requested review from aletheia2@fastmail. fm for attachment 1955 on bug 1457. 18:28:49 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1457 min, --, ---, clokep, ASSI, Make use of all WHOWAS 312/314 response pairs 18:28:55 <clokep> aleth: Maybe that one is simpler? 18:31:20 <aleth> clokep: Yes, but ... more likely to cause unintended consequences later on? 18:31:23 <-- Mook_as has quit (Quit: Mook_as) 18:31:29 <clokep> aleth: Yes. 18:31:48 --> Mook_as has joined #instantbird 18:31:55 <aleth> Do we really care that the longer one stores more info than is currently made use of? 18:32:18 <-- GeekShadow has quit (Ping timeout) 18:32:28 <clokep> I'm not concerned that it is longer, just that it is more complicated. 18:32:29 * aleth basically just thinks we shouldn't spend too much extra time on that bug 18:32:55 <aleth> That it is. 18:33:05 <clokep> I agree. :) 18:33:14 * clokep is waiting for flo to review his SIPE patch anyway. ;) 18:33:49 <aleth> Then you can convert your workplace to IB? ;) 18:33:56 <clokep> Yes. 18:33:57 --> GeekShadow has joined #instantbird 18:34:03 <clokep> And then I can get pissed off and implement file transfer. ;) 18:34:18 <aleth> You said it ;) 18:34:34 <clokep> (Work is the one place I use file transfer FWIW.) 18:36:56 * clokep prefers the second patch. 18:37:02 <clokep> I like that it's a lot simpler. 18:37:10 <clokep> aleth: Did you see my conversation w/ flo this morning about krb5? 18:37:13 <aleth> It would need a comment though 18:37:19 * aleth goes look 18:37:34 <clokep> A comment where? 18:38:23 <aleth> Explaining why we are throwing away what seems to be newer (more recently arrived) information 18:39:45 <aleth> I don't really have any useful info on how standard krb5 is as a default package 18:39:57 <clokep> Alright. 18:40:58 <aleth> What you suggested (check if its present, otherwise fall back to an alternative) seems like a good idea 18:41:38 <clokep> ? I suggested that? 18:41:42 <clokep> I don't think that is possible? 18:41:55 <aleth> I probably misunderstood something skim-reading then 18:42:12 <clokep> aleth: Do we reset the howisInformation somewhere? I thought we reset it each time we requested whois info? 18:43:32 <aleth> http://lxr.instantbird.org/instantbird/source/chat/protocols/irc/irc.js#754 18:44:29 <clokep> Ah-ha, I'm ont crazy! 18:45:15 <aleth> Otherwise the patch would have been instant r- ;) 18:45:19 <clokep> :) 18:46:50 <-- meh has quit (Ping timeout) 18:48:44 --> meh has joined #instantbird 18:54:29 <-- meh has quit (Quit: I don't want to live on this planet anymore.) 18:55:20 <clokep> aleth: http://pastebin.instantbird.com/84813? 18:56:36 <aleth> clokep: Maybe mention 312/314 as an example? 18:56:54 --> jb has joined #instantbird 18:57:26 <clokep> aleth: Does it seem too verbose? 18:57:50 <clokep> This applies to responses 312 and 314, in particular. 18:58:52 <aleth> clokep: Just checked my Linux - no libkrb installed 18:59:08 <aleth> Does not seem to be standard, sorry... 18:59:11 <clokep> aleth: Thanks. Ubuntu doesn't have it by default either so I think the answer is "no" 19:02:44 <aleth> "Copies the fields of aFields into the whois table. If the field already exists, that field is ignored (it is assumed that the first server response is the most up to date information, as is the case for 312/314 in particular). Note that the whois info for a nick is reset whenever whois information is requested, so the first response from each whois is recorded." 19:03:06 <aleth> How's that? Not sure it's much shorter, but I moved the parenthesis... 19:03:40 <clokep> I removed the " in particular" 19:03:45 <clokep> Besides that I think it is good. 19:03:55 <-- jb has quit (Ping timeout) 19:04:02 <clokep> r+ if I attach that? 19:04:10 <aleth> Not <140 characters, but I don't think anyone ever complained about too much info in a comment 19:04:22 <clokep> :) 19:04:25 <aleth> Yes :) 19:05:07 <instantbot> clokep@gmail.com cancelled review?(aletheia2@fastmail. fm) for attachment 1955 on bug 1457. 19:05:08 <instantbot> clokep@gmail.com requested review from florian@instantbird .org for attachment 1956 on bug 1457. 19:05:09 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1457 min, --, ---, clokep, ASSI, Make use of all WHOWAS 312/314 response pairs 19:18:08 --> meh has joined #instantbird 19:24:57 <-- Optimizer has quit (Ping timeout) 19:25:51 * clokep is cleaning up his mq... 19:26:06 --> DGMurdockIII has joined #instantbird 19:28:48 --> Optimizer has joined #instantbird 19:53:23 <-- Optimizer has quit (Ping timeout) 20:01:24 --> Optimizer has joined #instantbird 20:06:05 --> rosonline has joined #instantbird 20:16:52 --> Kaishi has joined #instantbird 20:42:05 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 20:42:05 * ChanServ sets mode +h Mic 20:44:29 --> wnayes has joined #instantbird 20:56:50 <Mic> Hello 21:24:41 <-- aleth has quit (Quit: Au revoir) 21:57:23 <-- mconley has quit (Input/output error) 22:10:41 --> chrisccoulson_ has joined #instantbird 22:11:04 <-- chrisccoulson has quit (Ping timeout) 22:17:01 <-- chrisccoulson_ has quit (Quit: Ex-Chat) 22:21:10 <-- sabret00the has quit (Connection reset by peer) 22:21:28 --> chrisccoulson has joined #instantbird 22:21:38 --> sabret00the has joined #instantbird 22:31:14 <-- sabret00the has quit (Connection reset by peer) 22:31:38 --> sabret00the has joined #instantbird 22:32:32 <-- Optimizer has quit (Ping timeout) 22:34:28 <-- Mic has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.3a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 22:35:55 --> Optimizer has joined #instantbird 23:25:43 <-- GeekShadow has quit (Ping timeout) 23:28:22 --> GeekShadow has joined #instantbird 23:31:40 <-- meh has quit (Quit: I don't want to live on this planet anymore.) 23:57:30 <-- rosonline has quit (Ping timeout) 23:59:50 --> rosonline has joined #instantbird