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00:05:17 <flo> Mook_as: we've done some accessibility work too ;) 00:05:49 <flo> gringochapin: I suspect the default message theme (Bubbles) may not be the most accessible. "Simple" may be better. 00:06:32 <flo> Mook_as: I didn't even remember that https://bugs.instantbird.org/ works too. I usually use https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/ 00:08:02 <Mook_as> I dunno, it was in my awesomebar for some reason, so I went with it :) 00:11:46 <flo> I wonder if we need to fix something for "My screen reader didn't make it obvious that that was possible." 00:12:00 <flo> is there some kind of aria attribute we should put on the (+) or (-) ? 00:14:10 <flo> maybe aria-expanded? 00:14:37 <Mook_as> yeah, sounds reasonable 00:14:48 <Mook_as> you're on a mac, you can use voiceover to test :) 00:15:13 <Mook_as> gringochapin: out of curiosity: what OS / AT do you use? 00:15:40 <flo> Mook_as: nope, I have to build with --disable-accesibility for OS X 10.5 compatibility :( 00:16:01 <Mook_as> :( 00:16:16 <flo> but I could test on the other machine I suppose 00:20:54 <flo> Good night :) 00:21:15 <Mook_as> night 00:24:31 <-- wesj has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.3a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 00:29:44 <gringochapin> flo: Not sure if you're still around, but there likely is a aria attribute or two that would help. I use Jaws for Windows, and Windows XP and Windows 7. I think the first issue is getting my screen reader to recognize that there is even an expand button there. 00:30:23 <gringochapin> flo: How is it setup currently? Is it just a clickable div, or is it an actual link? 00:30:57 <Mook_as> looks like a <p class="button"> here 00:32:52 <gringochapin> Ok, so basically it needs a ARIA role, something like role="button" should do. 00:33:38 <gringochapin> And it needs some sort of label to tell what it does. Something like aria-label="Expand message" or something equally appropriate. 00:34:16 <gringochapin> It should probably also be given a tabindex="0" to place it in the tab order, as I don't believe it's possible to tab to it. 00:34:27 <Mook_as> sounds good. (and the channel is logged, and flo is known to read the logs, so I'm sure he'll see it :D ) 00:34:40 <gringochapin> Nice. 00:37:30 <gringochapin> If you folks have any other questions, feel free to email me at cannxxxonxa@firxeantproxductions.com with all the x's removed. I'm always happy to help. 01:06:29 <-- Mook_as has quit (Quit: Mook_as) 01:20:49 <instantbot> wnayes@gmail.com requested review from florian@instantbird .org for attachment 1930 on bug 1521. 01:20:52 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1521 min, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Keyboard behaviour in list of popular networks 01:23:28 <-- wnayes has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.3a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 01:31:44 <-- Optimizer has quit (Ping timeout) 02:20:56 <-- gringochapin has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2 -- http://www.instantbird.com) 02:23:31 --> mconley has joined #instantbird 02:41:42 <instant-buildbot> build #645 of linux-nightly-default is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/linux-nightly-default/builds/645 02:43:58 <-- mconley has quit (Input/output error) 02:44:30 --> mconley has joined #instantbird 02:54:56 --> Mook has joined #instantbird 03:46:00 --> DGMurdockIII has joined #instantbird 04:18:16 <-- skeledrew has quit (Ping timeout) 04:19:25 --> skeledrew has joined #instantbird 04:37:22 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 04:37:22 * ChanServ sets mode +o clokep 04:42:44 <clokep> Mook: From what we've heard Instantbird is surprisingly accesible. 04:42:58 <clokep> (Also I'm constantly surprised by the number of people w/ screen readers. :)) 04:43:04 <clokep> But yes, filing bugs is good! 04:46:13 <instant-buildbot> build #726 of win32-nightly-default is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/win32-nightly-default/builds/726 04:49:57 <-- clokep has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.3a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 04:58:49 <-- mconley has quit (Input/output error) 05:04:07 --> Optimizer has joined #instantbird 05:37:39 --> deltafalcon has joined #instantbird 06:12:04 <instant-buildbot> build #629 of macosx-nightly-default is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/macosx-nightly-default/builds/629 06:29:21 --> barlas has joined #instantbird 06:43:19 <-- Gizmokid2005 has quit (Ping timeout) 06:43:31 --> Gizmokid2005 has joined #instantbird 07:03:06 <-- Mook has quit (Quit: Mook) 07:06:17 <-- Optimizer has quit (Ping timeout) 08:06:15 --> Optimizer has joined #instantbird 08:27:16 <-- Optimizer has quit (Ping timeout) 08:42:36 <DGMurdockIII> duckduckgo for searches 08:56:35 <-- chrisccoulson has quit (Ping timeout) 09:35:20 <-- Gizmokid2005 has quit (Ping timeout) 09:35:31 --> Gizmokid2005 has joined #instantbird 10:32:59 --> rosonline has joined #instantbird 10:49:53 --> meh` has joined #instantbird 10:50:33 <-- meh has quit (Ping timeout) 10:50:52 <-- rosonline has quit (No route to host) 11:08:00 <instantbot> New Instantbird (UI) bug 1714 filed by florian@instantbird.org. 11:08:04 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1714 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, The expand button of Bubble system messages is not accessible 11:08:10 <flo> just so that we don't forget :) 11:36:42 --> igorko has joined #instantbird 12:05:42 --> rosonline has joined #instantbird 12:47:08 <-- Kaishi has quit (Input/output error) 12:47:12 --> Kaishi has joined #instantbird 12:47:54 --> rosonline1 has joined #instantbird 12:48:40 <-- rosonline has quit (Ping timeout) 13:05:46 <-- rosonline1 has quit (Quit: Experimentem Instantbird 1.2 -- http://www.instantbird.com) 13:05:50 --> rosonline has joined #instantbird 13:25:45 --> mconley has joined #instantbird 13:36:36 --> zen_monkey has joined #instantbird 14:03:46 <-- igorko has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2 -- http://www.instantbird.com) 14:31:42 <-- DGMurdockIII has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.89 [Firefox 15.0.1/20120905151427]) 14:36:21 <-- Tonnes has quit (Ping timeout) 14:42:54 --> wesj has joined #instantbird 14:44:28 <-- wesj has quit (Quit: wesj) 14:50:02 --> Tonnes has joined #instantbird 14:55:05 --> Optimizer has joined #instantbird 15:49:39 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 15:49:39 * ChanServ sets mode +h aleth 15:59:41 <-- Optimizer has quit (Ping timeout) 16:02:21 --> Optimizer has joined #instantbird 16:15:48 --> wnayes has joined #instantbird 16:16:33 <-- deltafalcon has quit (Client exited) 16:19:04 <-- Optimizer has quit (Ping timeout) 16:22:33 --> Optimizer has joined #instantbird 17:12:04 <-- Kaishi has quit (Quit: Kaishi) 18:17:41 <-- barlas has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) 18:34:35 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 18:34:35 * ChanServ sets mode +h Mic 18:34:53 <Mic> Good evening 18:53:37 <-- aleth has quit (Input/output error) 19:13:34 <-- Mic has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 19:36:26 <-- Optimizer has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.3a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 19:51:59 <-- rosonline has quit (Quit: Experimentem Instantbird 1.2 -- http://www.instantbird.com) 20:13:52 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 20:13:52 * ChanServ sets mode +h Mic 20:17:25 <-- Mic has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.3a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 20:25:50 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 20:25:50 * ChanServ sets mode +h Mic 20:27:36 <-- Mic has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.3a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 20:27:51 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 20:27:51 * ChanServ sets mode +h Mic 20:41:47 <-- Mic has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.3a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 20:41:54 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 20:41:54 * ChanServ sets mode +h Mic 21:19:37 <-- Mic has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.3a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 21:19:49 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 21:19:49 * ChanServ sets mode +h Mic 21:20:52 <-- Mic has quit (Input/output error) 21:55:52 --> Optimizer has joined #instantbird 22:25:29 --> Mook has joined #instantbird 22:40:15 <-- mconley has quit (Input/output error) 23:35:55 --> clokep_work has joined #instantbird 23:35:55 * ChanServ sets mode +o clokep_work 23:36:26 <-- flo has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.3a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com)