#instantbird log on 09 20 2012

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02:55:11 <instantbot> mook.moz+bugs.instantbird@gmail.com requested review from florian@instantbird .org for attachment 1907 on bug 1701.
02:55:28 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1701 nor, --, ---, mook.moz+bugs.instantbird, NEW, XMPP should strip whitespace around JID
02:55:35 * Mook _still_ hasn't actually tried the patch, just wrote it...
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03:01:27 <instant-buildbot> build #636 of linux-nightly-default is complete: Success [build successful]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/linux-nightly-default/builds/636
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05:07:31 <instant-buildbot> build #717 of win32-nightly-default is complete: Success [build successful]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/win32-nightly-default/builds/717
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06:18:38 <instant-buildbot> build #620 of macosx-nightly-default is complete: Success [build successful]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/macosx-nightly-default/builds/620
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07:50:25 <vincent-lg> hi everyone
07:51:34 <vincent-lg> Is there a way to receive sound alerts when a message is sent (by others) on an IRC channel?
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07:56:22 <barlas> 'Play sound on messaging events' doesn't work for IRC?
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08:27:22 <vincent-lg> perhaps so, it's likely that I missed some configuration parameters
08:29:54 <vincent-lg> well, there is a checkbox in the main options, but it works only for other protocols, I guess (MSN, Gtalk, Facebook)
08:30:09 <vincent-lg> I don't receive sound alerts when someone is talking on this channel, for instance
08:30:27 <vincent-lg> and I don't find a specific configuration in the IRC protocol
08:31:51 <flo> vincent-lg: in a chat room, there will only be a sound if an incoming message contains your nick
08:32:21 <flo> wnayes: I think it would simplify the review, especially if you start answering each review comment in new comments, it's likely to get really messy in bug 1495
08:32:27 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1495 enh, --, ---, wnayes, ASSI, Create an account import wizard - GSoC 2012
08:35:09 <vincent-lg> flo: yes, I get the point ;) the IRC chat rooms are not crowded in general
08:35:21 <vincent-lg> thanks for answering
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08:41:41 <flo> vincent-lg: if you need a different behavior, it's likely very easy to implement in an add-on ;)
08:44:00 <vincent-lg> flo: I'll think about it ;)
08:45:32 <flo> and when I say very easy, I really mean it. Probably less than 10 lines
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08:51:44 <vincent-lg> huhu. But every software, addon-engine, extensions and so on needs a time to learn it (more or less short, depending of the software)
08:52:07 <vincent-lg> 10 lines could mean 30 minutes ;)
08:53:45 <flo> 30 minutes is short for 10 lines
08:53:54 <flo> (if you include the time to test that it actually works)
08:55:51 <vincent-lg> true
08:56:24 <vincent-lg> buty 30 minutes is a long time in a working day ;) . Anyway if I have time I'll check it
08:57:27 <flo> if you end up with nothing useful at the end of the 30 minutes it's long. If things work, it's not :).
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09:42:21 <florian> a downside of developing Instantbird in comm-central is that the tree is closed when there are bustages caused by mozilla-central
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10:03:22 * florian is upset by https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=737642
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10:43:09 <florian> so the bitrot that prevents me from landing mconley's patch in ib's repository is actually https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=777873
10:45:54 <florian> which was supposed to be ported in bug 1448, except that didn't happen because aleth sneaked in lots of UI changes that take a long time to review
10:45:58 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1448 nor, --, ---, aletheia2, ASSI, Handle bad log files properly
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12:58:16 <clokep_work> That sneaky aleth...
12:59:43 <florian> clokep_work: he unbitrotted the logger.js part for that patch though :)
12:59:51 <florian> clokep_work: btw, good morning! :)
13:00:29 <clokep_work> florian: Good...afternoon.
13:00:35 <florian> thansk
13:00:50 <florian> the morning wasn't all that good. I just spent my time trying to fix the comm-central bustage
13:01:03 <florian> and that made me wonder if we really want to do ib development there :(
13:01:24 <clokep_work> :-/
13:01:26 <florian> when Standard8 is sick and mconley is asleep, nobody seems to fix things there :(.
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13:08:00 <clokep_work> :-/
13:08:04 <clokep_work> I've noticed that.
13:08:07 <clokep_work> At least it's fixed now? :)
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13:09:49 <florian> clokep_work: I have patches to fix things. They aren't checked-in.
13:12:57 <clokep_work> florian: Well, it's fixed /for you/? :)
13:13:16 <florian> the reason why I wanted c-c to be un-busted was to land things :)
13:13:28 <clokep_work> Ah. :(
13:13:29 <florian> I wanted to land "Bug 792046 - Improve the error message when failing to connect an XMPP/IRC account because of a broken certificate"
13:14:28 <florian> hmm is it time for a "what's up with this work guys?" ping in the DNS SRV bug? :-D
13:14:54 * clokep_work wouldn't be opposed to that.
13:15:05 <clokep_work> I'm surprised people haven't been complaining on that yet.
13:15:29 <florian> maybe people don't need it after all? :)
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13:22:09 * clokep_work will stop signing on and off now. ;)
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14:34:14 <clokep_work> florian: So it wasn't clear from your response to wnaye, were you going to have him split each bit into a different bug?
14:34:33 <florian> I wasn't clear?
14:34:36 * florian looks at the log
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14:35:21 <florian> clokep_work: I won't require him to do it, but I think it's a good idea.
14:36:42 <clokep_work> florian: Maybe I just read it before I was awake. :)
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15:43:55 <florian> is aleth doing his patches on Windows?
15:44:11 <florian> the icon he used in bug 1448 seems to exist only in winstripe
15:44:14 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1448 nor, --, ---, aletheia2, ASSI, Handle bad log files properly
15:44:52 * clokep_work doubts it.
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15:56:01 <florian> http://i.imgur.com/8nKzj.png
15:58:54 <clokep_work> florian: That's fancy. :)
16:05:00 <instantbot> florian@instantbird.org granted review for attachment 1841 on bug 1448.
16:05:18 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1448 nor, --, ---, aletheia2, ASSI, Handle bad log files properly
16:06:05 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/8ec7e45f71fd - Florian Quèze - Bug 777873 - Viewing some old Twitter logs breaks log viewer. r=clokep.
16:06:06 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/16d72d5a3089 - aleth - Bug 1448 - Handle bad log files properly, r=fqueze.
16:06:07 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/dc7cb78c3122 - Mike Conley - Bug 787149 - Change Chat log tree so that it aggregates logs into days. r=florian, ui-r=bwinton.
16:06:08 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/4e7c7af0c382 - Florian Quèze - Bug 792046 - Improve the error message when failing to connect an XMPP/IRC account because of a broken certificate, r=clokep.
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16:08:23 <instantbot> florian@instantbird.org set the Resolution field on bug 1448 to FIXED.
16:08:27 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1448 nor, --, 1.3, aletheia2, RESO FIXED, Handle bad log files properly
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17:00:18 <florian> "It is critical for this feature to actually be useful / be chosen over dedicated chat clients for it to have better notifications.  Anyone?" He will probably be glad that we just dropped Growl support :-/.
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17:08:44 <clokep_work> florian: I was just reading that.
17:09:23 <clokep_work> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=787455 could use a resposne though...?
17:10:15 <florian> the guy seems to think that its a bug that he prefers using Instantbird ;)
17:12:00 <clokep_work> Yes. :)
17:12:08 <clokep_work> I'd reply to that bug, but I don't know how notifications work in TB.
17:12:34 <florian> I'm replying
17:14:22 <clokep_work> Thanks. :)
17:14:35 <clokep_work> Replying with "INVALID Not actionable"
17:14:55 <florian> not as aggressive :)
17:15:17 <florian> and I almost DUP'ed it
17:15:29 <florian> but I'll let the next person reading it in a few days do that
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17:17:38 <clokep_work> I almost DUP'ed it too.
17:26:36 <rosonline> Hi everyone!
17:27:16 <florian> hello rosonline :)
17:27:25 <rosonline> I have one question
17:28:10 <rosonline> Is there anyway to view my translation's work on the Instantbird?
17:29:53 <rosonline> I almost finnished the brazilian portuguese translations for Instantbird.
17:30:20 <rosonline> I think I forget something to translate.
17:30:40 <rosonline> and I wanna check it.
17:31:52 <rosonline> I'm sorry for my english
17:32:16 <rosonline> But i need to confirm it
17:35:35 <florian> you need to push your changes to the mercurial repository
17:36:06 <florian> and then we have some tools to show you what's left to do :)
17:37:22 <rosonline> How do I? I am not the management for this repo.
17:37:39 <florian> we will give you the permissions to do it
17:37:46 <rosonline> Ok
17:37:52 <rosonline> I'm waitting
17:37:57 <florian> nobody else seems to have started working on it anyway
17:39:18 <rosonline> It's happens...
17:40:25 <rosonline> Sometimes, the people could forget for a time the translations...
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17:43:50 <rosonline> It's very hard keep building Instantbird. I see the time and knowledge that all you being used for this project.
17:45:27 <rosonline> Back soon, florian. Send me a instructions how i can do the upload
17:52:17 <florian> rosonline: I emailed you a password
17:53:25 <florian> https://wiki.instantbird.org/Instantbird:Translation should be helpful for the "instructions" :)
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18:39:11 <clokep_work> rosonline: Were you able to get that to work? :) Let us know if you need help w/ Mercurial.
18:39:48 <rosonline> Yep
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18:40:08 <rosonline> I can't upload my revision
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18:40:48 <clokep_work> rosonline: What do you mean?
18:40:57 <rosonline> I'm leading some articles about Tortoise, but i can't undestand them
18:41:07 <clokep_work> If you ask questions, we can help.
18:41:20 <clokep_work> Personally I use the command line, by the way, you don't /have/ to use TortoiseHg.
18:41:26 <clokep_work> Just whatever you're comfortable w/.
18:41:55 <rosonline> Teach me the easy way to upload my work to repo
18:45:14 <clokep_work> Do you like to use the command line or TortoiseHg?
18:45:45 <rosonline> I'm using the Linux plataform of Tortoise
18:47:36 <clokep_work> OK, so does that add the extra menus to the context menu?
18:47:49 <rosonline> When I press the Commit button, I see the window: Por favor forneça a mensagem de consolidação. (Please enter the commit message)
18:48:12 <rosonline> extra menus?
18:48:43 <rosonline> The Tortoise Nautilus plugin doesn't work
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18:48:59 <rosonline> So, it is doesn't appear
18:50:00 <clokep_work> Alright, did you enter a commit message? "Initial translation of pt-BR." or whatever.
18:52:33 <clokep_work> (And then press commit.)
18:55:30 <rosonline> No
18:55:51 <clokep_work> Do that. :)
18:55:59 <clokep_work> (You should also be able to view all your changes too.)
18:57:40 <rosonline> How? (It's my first time with Tortoise)
18:57:58 <rosonline> I translated with my text editor
18:58:21 <rosonline> I don't use Tortoise
18:58:29 <clokep_work> What do you normally use?
18:59:05 <rosonline> To edit the text?
18:59:17 <clokep_work> Bah no. It doesn't matter how you edit it.
18:59:29 <clokep_work> OK, so when you have you commit window up ti should look like:
18:59:49 <clokep_work> https://wiki.instantbird.org/File:TortoiseHG_Commit.png
19:00:06 <clokep_work> You enter the message you want, And if you click on the files it should show a "diff" of the changes you're making.
19:00:14 <clokep_work> You might need to tick off all the files you want to add on the left.
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19:02:07 <clokep_work> Do you see that?
19:03:13 <rosonline> Yes and No
19:03:40 <rosonline> I see the File Changes area and the Modification area
19:04:15 <rosonline> But I can't see this windws (language) commit
19:05:44 <clokep_work> So is there no "Commit" button" or is there no "Message area"? Maybe you can put up a screenshot on imgur?
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19:06:23 <rosonline> ok
19:06:26 <rosonline> Wait
19:08:32 <rosonline> http://imgur.com/JvY3A 
19:09:24 <clokep_work> You're not in the commit view, you're in the log view.
19:09:51 <clokep_work> THe second menu item should let you change that.
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19:10:00 <clokep_work> "Re..." I can't see the rest.
19:11:05 <rosonline> Registro de Repositório - Repository log
19:12:06 <clokep_work> No, to the righ tof that there's a menu. "Gra..." "Re..." "Ramo" "Descri..."
19:12:10 <clokep_work> The second one of those.
19:13:52 <rosonline> It's Rev
19:14:08 <rosonline> Grafo, Rev, Ramo and Descrição
19:14:41 <rosonline> But they're not a buttons
19:20:49 <clokep_work> I don't know then. Maybe flo knows.
19:20:53 <clokep_work> I haven't used TortoiseHg on Linux.
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19:22:28 <rosonline> Explain me: What is the Commit message?
19:22:48 <rosonline> clokep_work
19:24:05 <Mook_as> those look like tree view column headers
19:24:17 <Mook_as> try moving your mouse to the top of the screen and see if a menu shows up there?
19:24:38 <clokep_work> rosonline: The commit message is a descriptive message of what was change din a commit.
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19:25:39 <Mook_as> you can probably also use the toolbar, the checkmark button. http://tortoisehg.bitbucket.org/manual/2.0/workbench.html
19:26:17 <rosonline1> My nickname change. ..
19:26:34 <rosonline1> for rosonline1
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19:42:48 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo flo 
19:49:52 <flo> is the "oq" vs "qo" order of mode flags something decided by Instantbird, or by the server? Why has it changed? :)
19:51:11 <clokep_work> It's decided by the server, but we might reorder it. I forget if I put a reverse in there or not.
19:51:32 <clokep_work> (And it doesn't matter, if that's your next question.)
19:52:05 <flo> it used to be "+qo flo" (libpurple) then "flo +qo" (js-irc) and now it's "flo +oq"
19:52:27 <flo> clokep_work: I know it doesn't matter, it was just the "OMG change!!!" reaction :)
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19:53:27 <clokep_work> flo: We /should/ leave it in the same order though (as the server sends it), I'd consider it a bug otherwise.
19:54:01 <flo> well, IMHO it's a bug that we show such technical garbage to the user ;)
19:54:38 <clokep_work> I agree. :)
19:54:42 <clokep_work> Go fix it? :P
19:55:15 <flo> if you review what remains of wnayes' patch for me, maybe? :-P
19:55:42 * clokep_work hides.
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20:12:33 <flo> clokep_work: are you hiding behind a layer of MATLAB IRC code? :-P
20:13:15 <clokep_work> flo: No, networking in MATLAB is too painful.
20:14:00 <flo> I really liked the gif of m conley coding in matlab :)
20:14:20 <clokep_work> Yes. :) It's like me coding C++.
20:14:38 <clokep_work> (Well C++ in Mozilla. I can write C++ for MATLAB like it's my job.)
20:14:39 <instantbot> c++ is e-- ah, nevermind.
20:14:44 <clokep_work> (Wait a second....)
20:17:21 <flo> IIRC I had a course for which we were expected to do something in matlab, it was awful :(
20:17:45 <clokep_work> I just hate that it is single threaded.
20:17:54 <flo> but it's that kind of courses where it isn't completely clear if the most awful part is the teacher or the technology
20:17:55 <Mook_as> was that something "suffer"?
20:18:18 <flo> a bit like the ruby on rails course :-D
20:19:04 <flo> where the teacher was so enthusiastic about his awesome language (probably the only one he could code in) that he forgot that what he was getting all exicted about already existed in most other languages
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20:21:51 <clokep_work> :(
20:22:35 <flo> I also loved the guy from Adobe who explained that flash was a better technology than JavaScript based websites because it could sort arrays faster.
20:23:08 <flo> and I'm sure his JS version of the benchmark spent most of the time not sorting the array (likely moving around dom nodes)
20:28:25 <clokep_work> :)
20:28:30 <clokep_work> Benchmarks are easy to fake.
20:29:11 <flo> yeah
20:29:38 <flo> who would trust a benchmark made by a man claiming that Flash is faster (and paid to say that)? :)
20:41:07 <Mook_as> was it being benchmarked against the flash applet running on shumway? :p
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20:45:03 <flo> Mook_as: that didn't exist at the time
20:45:10 <flo> but maybe on IE6 or 7 ? :-D
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21:00:22 <clokep_work> Is there any blog or something about Shumway?
21:01:05 * Mook_as isn't sure it exists now :p
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21:05:06 <flo> clokep_work: https://github.com/mozilla/shumway
21:05:20 <flo> one of these projects openly developed on github ;)
21:05:21 <clokep_work> flo: I know where the code is. :P
21:08:27 <clokep_work> (But thanks.)
21:08:32 <clokep_work> I just wish it actually worked...:-/
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21:14:59 <clokep_work> (Or maybe it does and I just don't get to flash sites often. :-D)
21:15:31 <flo> I think the only flash site I use is Vidyo
21:15:52 <flo> + a few random videos (mostly youtube)
21:15:58 <clokep_work> Me too.
21:16:02 <clokep_work> Minus the Vidyo.
21:16:02 <clokep_work> ;)
21:16:17 * clokep_work was going to take Tuesday off and dial into that...
21:16:22 <clokep_work> But not anymore. :)
21:17:55 <flo> I hope dialing into that meeting isn't the goal of your day off :)
21:18:35 <clokep_work> No, it was relaxing.
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21:35:09 <clokep_work> Bah I wish we could remove old messages....
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21:52:30 <GeekShadow> yo
21:53:07 <GeekShadow> hey flo, my local open source association is likely to give me a 2008 iMac :)
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22:36:46 <flo> GeekShadow: cool :)
22:43:27 <EionRobb> GeekShadow: as a kind of punishment?
22:43:43 <GeekShadow> ahahaha
22:43:54 <GeekShadow> well it's only for dev purposes
22:44:00 <GeekShadow> I kinda hate Apple ^^'
22:55:21 <flo> Good night :)
22:59:09 <EionRobb> yeah, we have a macmini at work that we needed for compiling ios apps
22:59:33 <EionRobb> we hate it so much we scripted everything we needed it to do and have a web interface for it instead
23:04:08 <clokep_work> You could always just use it as a paperweight.
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23:14:42 <EionRobb> but then you'd have to see it when you see the papers :(
23:14:45 <EionRobb> we put ours under the sink
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