#instantbird log on 09 18 2012

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03:01:17 <instant-buildbot> build #634 of linux-nightly-default is complete: Success [build successful]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/linux-nightly-default/builds/634
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04:08:34 <clokep_work> florian: So I think we could do a check above http://lxr.instantbird.org/instantbird/source/chat/components/src/imConversations.js#253 and search for any tracked words there?
04:08:47 <clokep_work> Do you see issues w/ that?
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12:27:00 <florian> clokep_work: good morning :)
12:27:16 <florian> here is what I've been cooking this morning: http://pastebin.instantbird.com/77319
12:27:20 <clokep_work> florian: Yes, it's morning. Not sure if it's good. ;)
12:27:29 <florian> I know it works for XMPP servers with self signed certificates
12:28:07 <florian> my test case for IRC no longer works (the server refuses the connection, so I can't check if we display the right error message). Any idea of an IRC server with a broken cert that I could use?
12:28:19 <clokep_work> You're missing a semi-colon after return on line 65.
12:28:28 <clokep_work> Hmmm...
12:28:47 <florian> fixed
12:28:50 <clokep_work> Not off the top of my head, most of the reports have been about private ones.
12:29:03 <florian> right
12:29:23 <florian> the one I wanted to test with was a private one too, but someone made me an account so that I can debug the pybnc mess ;)
12:29:36 <clokep_work> Ah, nice. :)
12:29:50 <clokep_work> I wonder if I still have an account on that bouncer...
12:30:04 <florian> but apparently now that we have identified the issue there, I'm no longer allowed to connect ;)
12:30:33 <florian> I'm surprised that we haven't done such a patch way earlier
12:30:59 <clokep_work> florian: We're lazy
12:31:06 <florian> I thought it was difficult. It wasn't really, once I found nsINSSErrorsService and that the aStatus value of onStopRequest can be adapted to work with that.
12:31:29 <clokep_work> I have one I can test with...but no way to build. :-/
12:31:33 <florian> nsINSSErrorsService doesn't have a single JS caller, but that's a poor excuse for not finding it ;)
12:31:47 <florian> is the port publicly open?
12:32:03 <florian> I don't need a valid account, just a failing SSL connection :)
12:32:16 <clokep_work> Ah.
12:32:33 <florian> obviously, the next step would be to let the user easily add an exception for the broken cert
12:32:43 <florian> but I'm probably too lazy to go that far
12:32:53 <clokep_work> At least today. ;)
12:33:00 <florian> + I don't see a way to do that without strings, and I want to fix this for Tb17 :)
12:33:21 <florian> too many unclear support requests for the "server closed connection" message :)
12:34:44 <clokep_work> I talked to roland yesterday in #maildev.
12:35:09 <clokep_work> About how support communicates back to developers and he pretty much said to read https://wiki.mozilla.org/Thunderbird/Thunderbird15.0SupportIssues
12:37:00 <clokep_work> And maybe something about a mailing list, but it wasn't clear to me if that was a high volume mailing list or not.
12:37:29 <clokep_work> (Besides that he wanted to know why I wasn't at MozCamp if I live in Europe...to which I responded that I don't live in Europe. ;))
12:37:46 <clokep_work> Btw I'm fairly certain that is r+ with the ; fixed. :)
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12:55:45 <clokep_work> Do we have a bug filed abuot what you're fixing?
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13:53:10 * aleth is in favour of taking mconley's new log viewer tree for IB as well, do people agree on this?
13:53:45 <aleth> And should we invent a "needs-IB-patch" flag?
13:54:25 <aleth> (obviously not asking mconley to do this...)
13:54:32 <mconley> :D
13:54:39 <mconley> Shouldn't be too bad to port
13:55:04 <aleth> I ported your last logger.js patch already ;)
13:55:16 <aleth> Admittedly that one was simpler...
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13:56:41 <mconley> aleth: the treeview stuff is kinda hairy, yeah
13:56:47 <mconley> aleth: but I think a lot of it can just be copy-paste
13:57:00 <mconley> mind, I've not looked at the IB log viewing code
13:57:02 <mconley> so maybe I'm way off base
14:01:58 <florian> clokep_work: "Do we have a bug filed abuot what you're fixing?" if that question was for me, I had "- Bug 780749 poor error message ("Server closed the connection") when connecting to a server with a broken certificate" in my tracking etherpad, but the bug actually seems to say "Tb should connect to servers with self-signed certs without bothering me", so I may file a new clean one for improving the error messages.
14:02:47 <florian> mconley: I think it will be trivial to port for Instantbird, as we don't even have to bother about the case of displaying a search result
14:02:56 <florian> aleth: and yes, I think you can go ahead and port that, I'll r+ ;)
14:03:04 <mconley> woo! :)
14:03:10 <mconley> I do like code-reuse. Feels good, man.
14:03:34 <florian> aleth: and another suggestion: add an horizontal ruler between each conversation, so that we can scroll between conversations easily :)
14:04:05 <florian> aleth: and if you do that in a way that Tb can re-use, jb will love you for that ;).
14:04:15 <mconley> share the love
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14:34:09 <clokep_work> florian: Yes that was directed at you.
14:34:43 <florian> clokep_work: I'm filing a new clean bug right now
14:35:47 <clokep_work> COol.l
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14:50:55 <clokep_work> florian: Is that the same patch I saw already? Exactly the same, I mean.
14:51:20 <florian> I hope it has an additional semi colon
14:51:42 <florian> yes, it has :)
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15:01:08 <clokep_work> Thanks. :)
15:01:41 <florian> clokep_work: you set the OS to Android ;)
15:10:10 <clokep_work> florian: Oops. "a" for us is "All" :(
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16:17:13 <clokep_work> florian: You see that bug about growl support?
16:17:24 <florian> clokep_work: I cc'ed me
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16:27:58 * clokep_work was thinking of making it block Instantbird.
16:28:07 <clokep_work> Say hi at the meeting for me. :P
16:29:32 <florian> clokep_work: these days if I can be heard at all at this meeting, I consider myself lucky ;)
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16:54:47 <mconley> florian: you've been remarkably audible lately! :)
16:55:17 <florian> mconley: :)
16:56:30 <florian> mconley: that's possibly thanks to the vidyo update a few weeks ago, and the new more powerful macbook. Vidyo used to take almost 100% of the CPU on the older one.
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17:57:24 <clokep_work> floian: Can't we get vidyo in Instantbird?! COme on! :P
18:01:19 <clokep_work> florian: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=787455 could probably use a reply, but I don't really know the state of notifications in TB. :-/
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20:05:04 <flo> hmm, should I trust a dealer of auto parts that makes his website with Excel, and writes "Bad display with Google Chrome ® ? Install IE-Tab   ®" on the home page? (needless to say the display is completely messed up with anything but IE)
20:06:07 <clokep_work> How cheap is the part? ;)
20:09:10 <flo> and the pdf of their catalog doesn't display accentuated characters correctly on Preview :-S
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20:52:05 <Mook_as> hmm, ib 1.2, I'm having problems adding gtalk buddies from the menu. Warning: received presence stanza for unknown buddy foo@example.com Source File: resource:///modules/xmpp.jsm Line: 879
20:52:22 <Mook_as> (where foo@example.com is the person I just tried to add.) nothing seems to change in the contact list.
20:52:45 <clokep_work> Mook_as: Is the person in a group that's removed/ hidden.
20:52:57 <clokep_work> (Did you hit the little "X" to not display it.)
20:53:02 <flo> clokep_work: doesn't matter, it's a back-end issue
20:53:09 <clokep_work> Oh OK.
20:53:36 <Mook_as> no, I'm trying to add into a group that has about two dozen visible people in it
20:53:42 <flo> Mook_as: I think we would need a log of all the exchanged stanza to see where something went wrong :(
20:53:53 <Mook_as> (and all tags are visible)
20:54:17 <Mook_as> flo: okay; how do I make one? (... I'll anonymize it somewhat first, of course)
20:54:23 <flo> is your new contact visible after disconnecting and reconnecting?
20:55:00 <Mook_as> no change. (still not visible.)
20:55:08 <flo> hmm, it's possible the server just sucks and hasn't sent the roster push correctly :-S
20:56:40 <Mook_as> Hmm, he doesn't appear to have been added. (that is: not showing up in the contact list in gmail's chat either)
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20:58:05 <flo> Mook_as: but you wouldn't receive presence stanzas for a buddy that hasn't been added yet
20:58:21 <flo> hmm, or maybe if the contact rejects your request? I don't think I've tested that case
20:58:30 <Mook_as> don't look at me, I'm just copying things out of the error console!
20:59:04 <Mook_as> of course, I initially screwed up and had a leading space. (removed that, didn't help.)
20:59:29 <Mook_as> (also: I owe the guy $10 and want to figure out where his desk is to give him money, he probably isn't going to reject :p )
21:00:59 <flo> ahah
21:01:18 <flo> send the money through paypal? :-P
21:01:30 * clokep_work wonders if Mook_as is giving out $10 to anyone who asks.
21:01:36 <flo> Mook_as: the server may have rejected the request automatically with an error
21:01:55 <Mook_as> maybe; ib isn't telling me about it, though
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21:02:34 <flo> clokep_work: I wouldn't ask, as my bank would likely charge ~$20 for the currency change and another $20 for receiving money from outside Europe. That's too expensive for only $10 :)
21:02:35 <Mook_as> oh bloody... I also had a space at the _end_ that I didn't see
21:02:57 <flo> I hope we trim the string, but I wouldn't bet on it
21:03:24 <Mook_as> we don't, since when I had a leading space, it was visible in the unknown buddy message
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21:04:06 <clokep_work> flo: I'll take it in Canadian, it's pretty much 1-to-1 right now. Mook_as can just drive it down to me.
21:04:37 <Mook_as> clokep_work: sorry, this was in exchange for a viking helmet. if you also had one of those...
21:05:20 <Mook_as> hmm, on second thought: I already have one, I don't need one more.
21:07:55 * flo would be happy to send $10 or even 10€ to whoever can send him a correctly-functioning fuel pump for his AMI
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21:11:13 <clokep_work> Mook_as: :( I don't sorry.
21:13:36 <Mook_as> ... but I can sell you _my_ helmet for $10, canadian or american, if you come and pick it up! :p
21:15:32 * clokep_work doesn't have a car. :(
21:15:47 <clokep_work> Well not with me.
21:16:18 * flo doesn't understand Mook_as' helmet business
21:16:23 <Mook_as> oh, you're west-coast-in-driving-distance, so not southern CA or anything like that :D
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21:16:37 <flo> Mook_as: why are you selling it for the same price you bought it?
21:17:00 <Mook_as> flo: .... I'll make up for it in volume?
21:17:18 <Mook_as> (also, I haven't actually paid yet, so if I invest those $10 in the mean time...)
21:18:18 <flo> maybe ask deOmega for some advice about investments in the helmet market next time he comes? :-P
21:18:33 * flo doesn't know if deOmega still reads the logs
21:22:20 <flo> Mook_as: so if I understood correctly, the longer it will take you to add that gtalk contact, the more money you will make out of your investment? :-P
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21:26:44 <flo> Good night
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21:30:26 <clokep_work> Mook_as: http://lxr.instantbird.org/instantbird/source/chat/protocols/xmpp/xmpp.jsm#989 neesd a trim() in it.
21:30:29 <clokep_work> I think.
21:33:42 <Mook_as> seems reasonable.
21:33:53 <Mook_as> I don't know any of this code, I just know how to complain :p
21:37:39 <clokep_work> Mook_as: Want to file a bug / put up a patch? :-D
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21:40:15 <Mook_as> make MemoServ poke Mook about it :p
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21:53:42 <clokep_work> (Done.)
21:56:26 <Mook_as> thanks.
21:57:37 * clokep_work thinks it would have been faster to write the patch.
22:01:10 <Mook_as> it would! :p
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22:43:43 <clokep_work> Even: Do you have any 64-bit Linux Instantbirds around?
22:43:52 * clokep_work wonders if we can start building that by default... :-S
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