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00:17:00 <-- Mook has quit (Quit: Mook) 01:13:21 --> clokep_work has joined #instantbird 01:13:21 * ChanServ sets mode +o clokep_work 01:14:42 <clokep_work> barlas: Doesn't look like any issues, but flo would know better. 01:24:07 <-- Suiseiseki has quit (Ping timeout) 01:25:03 --> Suiseiseki has joined #instantbird 01:43:40 <-- Suiseiseki has quit (Ping timeout) 01:51:30 --> Suiseiseki has joined #instantbird 02:54:34 <instant-buildbot> build #632 of linux-nightly-default is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/linux-nightly-default/builds/632 03:36:07 --> Mook has joined #instantbird 04:30:29 <clokep_work> Someone should reply to that mail on the contact list. :) 04:30:36 <clokep_work> I think I'd be too...not nice. 04:51:12 <instant-buildbot> build #713 of win32-nightly-default is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/win32-nightly-default/builds/713 05:34:07 * clokep_work is happy that Mook is now mook@... 05:38:55 --> meh has joined #instantbird 05:55:03 --> jb has joined #instantbird 05:55:16 <-- clokep_work has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.3a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 06:01:26 --> EionRobb has joined #instantbird 06:06:08 --> barlas has joined #instantbird 06:13:37 <instant-buildbot> build #616 of macosx-nightly-default is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/macosx-nightly-default/builds/616 06:18:02 --> mconley has joined #instantbird 06:26:30 --> Optimizer has joined #instantbird 06:30:51 <-- Optimizer has quit (Ping timeout) 06:31:59 <-- mconley has quit (Input/output error) 06:34:10 --> Optimizer has joined #instantbird 06:37:48 --> jb1 has joined #instantbird 06:39:15 <-- jb has quit (Ping timeout) 06:40:43 --> jb has joined #instantbird 06:40:56 --> jb2 has joined #instantbird 06:41:33 <-- jb1 has quit (Ping timeout) 06:42:30 <-- jb has quit (Ping timeout) 06:50:45 <-- Optimizer has quit (Ping timeout) 07:03:18 --> Optimizer has joined #instantbird 07:38:37 <-- jb2 has quit (Ping timeout) 07:48:00 --> jb has joined #instantbird 07:49:43 <-- jb has quit (Ping timeout) 07:51:56 --> jb has joined #instantbird 08:11:53 <-- nexxuscommand has quit (Ping timeout) 08:13:53 <-- jb has quit (Ping timeout) 08:16:55 <-- Optimizer has quit (Ping timeout) 08:20:05 --> Optimizer has joined #instantbird 08:58:18 --> nexxuscommand has joined #instantbird 09:04:03 --> jb has joined #instantbird 09:04:07 <-- Tonnes has quit (Connection reset by peer) 09:07:09 --> Tonnes has joined #instantbird 09:10:10 <-- jb has quit (Ping timeout) 09:10:33 <-- Mook has quit (Quit: Mook) 09:11:01 --> FeuerFliege has joined #instantbird 09:12:39 <FeuerFliege> hi :) 09:12:44 <FeuerFliege> i am back 09:13:37 --> jb has joined #instantbird 09:16:25 <flo> FeuerFliege: welcome back then :) 09:18:29 <flo> barlas (and clokep): it seems from barlas' log that the "instantbird" line at http://lxr.instantbird.org/instantbird/source/instantbird/build.mk#35 also ended up commented out. 09:20:32 --> Even has joined #instantbird 09:20:32 * ChanServ sets mode +o Even 09:25:10 <-- Optimizer has quit (Ping timeout) 09:31:51 --> deltafalcon has joined #instantbird 09:34:45 <-- jb has quit (Ping timeout) 09:47:01 --> Optimizer has joined #instantbird 10:11:49 --> jb has joined #instantbird 10:26:07 <-- nexxuscommand has quit (Ping timeout) 10:54:03 <-- jb has quit (Ping timeout) 10:56:39 <-- EionRobb has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 10:57:58 <barlas> tier_app_dirs += \ 10:57:59 <barlas> 2 chat \ 10:58:00 <barlas> 1 #purple \ 10:58:02 <barlas> 0 instantbird \ 10:58:03 <barlas> 1 $(NULL) 10:58:14 <barlas> This is how my file looks 10:58:21 <barlas> (ignore the numbers in start) 11:07:07 <flo> barlas: that's the problem :) 11:07:33 <flo> remove the "#purple \" line, or put it after the "$(NULL)" line. 11:22:50 <-- Optimizer has quit (Ping timeout) 11:23:23 <-- gerard-majax__ has quit (Ping timeout) 11:25:38 --> Optimizer has joined #instantbird 11:25:41 <barlas> Okay, that fixed it 11:30:02 --> gerard-majax__ has joined #instantbird 11:30:07 <barlas> So, how can I launch two instanbird at a time? 12:00:30 <-- Optimizer has quit (Connection reset by peer) 12:03:51 --> Optimizer has joined #instantbird 12:25:13 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 12:25:13 * ChanServ sets mode +h Mic 12:26:17 <Mic> barlas: use the command line parameters "P" to open the profile chooser at startup and "no-remote" to tell Instantbird that it shouldn't switch to an already running instance. 12:26:48 <Mic> You'll need the right amount of "-" before the parameters, I think that's - for Windows and -- on Linux? 12:27:04 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 12:27:05 * ChanServ sets mode +h aleth 12:30:26 <-- Mic has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 12:32:35 <-- deltafalcon has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2 -- http://www.instantbird.com) 12:46:29 --> jacta has joined #instantbird 12:46:44 <jacta> jacta@Jactalappen:~/Apps/instantbird$ ./instantbird - Cannot find Instantbird runtime directory. Exiting. 12:47:45 <aleth> jacta: Not heard of that one before. Are you using 64-bit Linux? 12:47:54 <jacta> aleth, yep 12:48:17 <aleth> Strange things can happen if you haven't got 32-bit compatibility libraries installed (the build is 32 bit) 12:48:30 <aleth> (unless you built it yourself) 12:48:30 <flo> Mic: -P and --no-remote; it's not related to the OS. 12:48:58 <jacta> aleth, im not that good with all this :\ 12:49:06 <flo> Mic: usually - for short params, and -- for long parameters (ie full words). -Safe-mode is an (unfortunate) exception though. 12:49:18 <aleth> jacta: You should be able to install 32-bit libs from your distro's repo 12:49:32 <jacta> what libs? :/ 12:49:55 <aleth> Packages. The name differs depending on the distro 12:50:07 <flo> jacta: which distribution is this, and how did you install Instantbird? Is it the binary from our website, or a package from the distribution? 12:50:47 <jacta> binary from homepage - counld'nt find it in xubuntu 12.04 :/ 12:51:13 <jacta> brb 10 min :\ 12:51:49 <aleth> I think I dug out the required lib for ubuntu before, so I can probably tell you what to install 12:52:00 * aleth regrets he didn't add it to the FAQ or somethin 12:52:21 <flo> something called ia32 I think 12:52:33 <aleth> jacta: Install ia32-libs from your package manager (probably synaptic) 12:52:49 <flo> really, we should provide 64 binaries for linux these days :( 12:52:55 <flo> or even better, a ppa for *buntu 12:53:32 <aleth> flo: Even better than the latter would be to get Debian to update their repo to the current IB 12:53:58 <flo> aleth: that sounds easier; just ping the debian maintainer :) 12:54:08 <flo> aleth: I don't think the debian package runs on ubuntu though 12:54:33 <flo> as debian still has xulrunner, and the ib package there depends on it; whereas ubuntu got rid of xulrunner and an ubuntu ib package would need to ship gecko, like tb does 12:54:48 <aleth> flo: I think there was a library issue, either xulrunner or libpurple 12:55:20 <aleth> flo: Interesting! So ubuntu could include it, but debian can't? That would already be a big win 12:55:54 <aleth> I thought the issue with 64bit Linux builds was lacking infrastructure? 12:55:57 <flo> aleth: debian has a xulrunner package used by Firefox, so there's no reason for the ib debian package to include gecko 12:56:14 <flo> aleth: it is. But we can buy more ;). 12:56:24 <flo> aleth: it's also lack of disk space on our server 12:56:25 <aleth> flo: But we release less frequently than FF so that won't work for us 12:56:59 <flo> aleth: "that won't work" that = ? 12:57:14 <aleth> The gecko versions won't always match 12:57:37 <flo> we would need an updated instantbird package for each gecko update, yes 12:57:46 <flo> that would suck, and it's the reason why xulrunner has been removed from ubuntu 12:58:09 <aleth> And getting IB into the ubuntu repos would be the more important part anyway 12:58:20 <aleth> so it's nice it's also easier ;) 12:59:15 <flo> aleth: it's not really "easier" 13:00:01 <flo> I discussed it with Chris at MozCamp. He couldn't come up with a clear answer as to how one can add in ubuntu's repository an application that isn't in debian's packages (or for which the debian packages are unsuitable for ubuntu) 13:00:13 <aleth> Oh. 13:00:16 <aleth> :( 13:00:37 <aleth> That does sound like a PPA is the only option then. 13:00:39 <flo> aleth: but I think anyway, having someone volunteering to do the actual work would be a good first steam 13:00:43 <flo> *step 13:00:51 <flo> even if that only gives us a PPA at first 13:01:03 <aleth> flo: Yes, I put up a post asking for volunteers on the ubuntu forum once, no replies (what a surprise) 13:01:17 <flo> and once usable packages do exist, we can talk more about it and probably convince chris to take it ;) 13:01:23 <-- barlas has quit (Ping timeout) 13:01:44 <flo> aleth: I think a *good* ubuntu package should include some add-ons for ubuntu integration (some exist on AIO; never tried them) 13:02:04 <aleth> flo: Hopefully sooner or later a happy IB ubuntu user will show up on #instantbird someday... 13:02:05 <flo> aleth: should at least integrate the menu bar correctly, and probably try to do something with the global messaging thing they have need the clock. 13:02:13 <flo> aleth: and fix the stupid tray icon that doesn't work with unity 13:02:20 <aleth> Yes, it's getting it to integrate well with unity that requires someone that actually uses it 13:02:39 <flo> aleth: I don't really see how an "happy IB ubuntu user" is possible without all that done btw ;) 13:03:09 <aleth> flo: Other apps get their ubuntu integration from users that are happy enough with the app to do the remaining polish ;) 13:03:12 <flo> I installed Ib 1.2 on an up to date ubuntu yesterday (yes, I finally updated everything on that laptop my parents have ;)) and the UX really sucks. It's not correctly integrated out of the box 13:03:32 <aleth> So maybe there will not be anyone happy enough :( 13:03:39 <flo> aleth: I think idechix has done a fair amount of that work actually ;) 13:03:43 <aleth> I was hoping the author of those unity add-ons might want to ... 13:03:47 <flo> aleth: he's indeed an ubuntu user ;) 13:03:50 <aleth> probably him 13:04:09 <flo> I really wouldn't be on him doing that work. 13:04:28 <flo> and he doesn't understand how these add-ons work anyway. He just took the ubuntu integration add-ons for Tb, and ported them. 13:05:05 <aleth> So... we need to attract some more knowledgeable ubuntu users ;) 13:05:24 <flo> aleth: I think what we really need is someone already familiar with ubuntu packaging, and really frustrated with both Pidgin and Empathy ;). 13:06:56 <aleth> The tricky part would be for the ubuntu ppa to turn off the unity bits when the window manager is not unity 13:07:29 <aleth> Unless those add-ons are smart enough to do that. 13:07:41 <-- Even has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.3a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 13:07:41 <flo> maybe it's already working that way? :) 13:07:48 --> Even has joined #instantbird 13:07:48 * ChanServ sets mode +o Even 13:09:40 <aleth> douglaswth has not bumped his add-ons to 1.3 :( 13:09:55 <aleth> I just tried to use Input History... 13:10:25 <flo> maybe he uses 1.2? :) 13:11:24 <flo> anyway, I'll go refuel the AMI :) 13:11:40 <aleth> :) 13:21:10 --> clokep_work has joined #instantbird 13:21:10 * ChanServ sets mode +o clokep_work 13:25:27 <jacta> aleth, ia32-libs is already the newest version. - ia32-libs set to manually installed. 13:25:29 <jacta> :( 13:26:16 <aleth> jacta: So you have it installed already? 13:26:21 <jacta> it was, yes :\ 13:27:05 <aleth> Hmm, that wasn't the problem then. 13:27:25 <-- aleth has quit (Quit: Au revoir) 13:27:33 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 13:27:33 * ChanServ sets mode +h aleth 13:29:42 <-- clokep_work has quit (Input/output error) 13:32:51 <jacta> aleth, not really, no :/ 13:33:23 <aleth> When you unpacked the downloaded file, you kept the directory structure intact? 13:33:39 --> barlas has joined #instantbird 13:33:45 <aleth> i.e. you instantbird dir has lots of subdirectories? 13:37:17 <jacta> yep 13:37:25 <jacta> rebooting, but just uncpaked 13:37:29 <-- jacta has quit (Quit: Leaving) 13:39:21 <aleth> Does it have a file "run-mozilla.sh"? 13:44:07 --> jacta has joined #instantbird 13:44:37 <aleth> jacta: Does the instantbird folder contain a file "run-mozilla.sh"? 13:44:50 <jacta> -rw-r--r-- 1 jacta jacta 10380 Sep 14 08:18 run-mozilla.sh 13:45:35 <aleth> I don't know why you are getting that error message. 13:45:39 <aleth> Are you using the bash shell? 13:45:51 <jacta> yep i do 13:46:17 <aleth> So that should be OK 13:47:02 <jacta> how should I launch it? tried ./instantbird ? 13:48:16 <aleth> Yes, I don't see why that is failing. 13:49:05 <jacta> Cannot find Instantbird runtime directory. Exiting. 13:49:05 <jacta> :( 13:49:42 <aleth> Try "./run-mozilla.sh ./instantbird-bin" 13:51:02 <jacta> that actually works :o 13:51:10 <aleth> Huh. 13:51:18 <jacta> Client started up :o 13:51:30 <jacta> jacta@Jactalappen:~/Apps/instantbird$ sh run-mozilla.sh ./instantbird-bin 13:51:45 <aleth> Well, if you use that, you should probably put the full path instead of . to be safe. 13:52:02 <aleth> In case the current directory changes while it is runnning... 13:52:06 <jacta> but still strange it works that way :o 13:52:28 <aleth> Yes, I don't understand why the startup script is failing for you 13:52:46 <jacta> Really strange yes, buut yeaah :) 13:53:42 <aleth> ah! 13:53:42 <jacta> thanks for your great help, can I provide anything logs for the devs that could help them 13:53:46 <aleth> try "which test" 13:54:09 <aleth> (from the command line) 13:54:32 <jacta> aleth, /usr/bin/test 13:54:46 <aleth> OK, so that's not the reason either :-/ 13:54:54 <jacta> :( 13:54:56 <aleth> Anyway, I guess it's working for you now :) 13:55:07 <aleth> But do file a bug. 13:55:22 <aleth> In case this comes up in the future, maybe we can figure out what is causing it on xubuntu 13:55:41 <jacta> Good point, but yeaah, atleast its up and running :))) 13:56:07 <aleth> Just, next time you start it, put the full path in the command line. 13:56:21 <jacta> Ill do that, thaaaanks 13:56:48 <aleth> i.e. run-mozilla.sh (full path to instantbird-bin) 13:57:27 <jacta> yep :) 14:09:51 <-- aleth has quit (Quit: Au revoir) 14:13:09 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 14:13:09 * ChanServ sets mode +h aleth 14:14:40 --> clokep_work has joined #instantbird 14:14:40 * ChanServ sets mode +o clokep_work 14:36:21 <clokep_work> Can someone respond to that support email please? :) 15:06:43 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 15:06:43 * ChanServ sets mode +h Mic 15:07:22 <flo> clokep_work: the one who can't install add-ons? 15:07:46 <Mic> flo: http://log.bezut.info/instantbird/today#m96 is not quite correct either. I've checked my shortcut, it has "-P -no-remote -purgecaches" and it's working fine on Windows. 15:08:20 <clokep_work> Mic: Is right, it's -no-remote and -purgecaches on Windows, not -- as it should be. 15:08:22 <clokep_work> flo: Yes. 15:08:43 <flo> maybe both - and -- work then? :) 15:09:28 <clokep_work> I don't think they do... 15:12:59 <-- Mic has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 15:23:49 <-- Tonnes has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88.2 [Firefox 15.0.1/20120905151427]) 15:32:32 <-- Optimizer has quit (Ping timeout) 15:35:54 --> Optimizer has joined #instantbird 15:45:21 <-- Optimizer has quit (Ping timeout) 15:45:37 <-- Kaishi has quit (Quit: Kaishi) 15:45:42 --> Kaishi has joined #instantbird 15:45:51 <-- Kaishi has quit (Quit: Kaishi) 15:48:45 --> Optimizer has joined #instantbird 15:56:13 --> jb has joined #instantbird 15:57:03 --> nexxuscommand has joined #instantbird 15:57:58 <-- clokep_work has quit (Input/output error) 15:58:39 --> clokep_work has joined #instantbird 15:58:39 * ChanServ sets mode +o clokep_work 15:59:20 <-- nexxuscommand has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2 -- http://www.instantbird.com) 16:03:49 <clokep_work> Adding buddies on GTalk works, right? :) 16:09:49 <-- aleth has quit (Quit: Au revoir) 16:10:14 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 16:10:14 * ChanServ sets mode +h aleth 16:22:26 --> igorko has joined #instantbird 16:24:00 <barlas> clokep_work: Yes 16:24:34 <barlas> But if the tag you added them in is already hidden, you have to show/hide that tag before they show up. 16:28:21 <clokep_work> Right. 16:39:07 <-- Optimizer has quit (Ping timeout) 16:47:39 --> Optimizer has joined #instantbird 16:51:36 --> Tonnes has joined #instantbird 16:55:06 <-- clokep_work has quit (Ping timeout) 17:17:26 <-- jb has quit (Ping timeout) 17:31:03 --> clokep_work has joined #instantbird 17:31:04 * ChanServ sets mode +o clokep_work 17:31:14 --> wnayes has joined #instantbird 17:45:10 <-- igorko has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2 -- http://www.instantbird.com) 17:47:35 --> Mnyromyr has joined #instantbird 17:56:17 * flo needs to fix or replace that part: http://queze.net/goinfre/mamie/pompe-essence-mamie-hs.jpg 17:56:29 <flo> (no, the AMI didn't work this afternoon) 17:57:25 <clokep_work> flo: Make one? ;) 17:58:47 <flo> make a fuel pump? 17:58:59 <-- aleth has quit (Input/output error) 17:59:59 <clokep_work> I bet a coffee machine has all the parts you need. 18:00:02 * clokep_work rolls eyes. 18:00:19 * clokep_work goes to do _work... 18:00:28 <flo> clokep_work: on Sunday? 18:07:02 <-- clokep_work has quit (Ping timeout) 18:29:04 <-- Optimizer has quit (Ping timeout) 18:31:27 --> clokep_work has joined #instantbird 18:31:27 * ChanServ sets mode +o clokep_work 18:33:12 <-- clokep_work has quit (Ping timeout) 18:36:00 --> Optimizer has joined #instantbird 18:51:05 <-- jacta has left #instantbird (Leaving) 19:23:54 <-- barlas has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) 19:43:38 <-- FeuerFliege has quit (Input/output error) 19:53:14 --> clokep_work has joined #instantbird 19:53:14 * ChanServ sets mode +o clokep_work 19:58:36 <-- Optimizer has quit (Ping timeout) 20:00:20 --> Optimizer has joined #instantbird 20:04:55 <-- Mnyromyr has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [SeaMonkey 1.1.19/2010030105]) 20:43:39 --> DGMurdockIII has joined #instantbird 21:06:34 <-- Optimizer has quit (Ping timeout) 21:10:37 --> Optimizer has joined #instantbird 21:13:59 --> EionRobb has joined #instantbird 21:15:01 <-- flo has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.3a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 22:20:05 --> clokep_work1 has joined #instantbird 22:20:45 <-- clokep_work has quit (Ping timeout) 22:30:41 --> Kaishi has joined #instantbird 22:57:43 <-- DGMurdockIII has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88.2 [Firefox 15.0.1/20120905151427]) 23:09:11 <-- wnayes has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.3a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 23:43:40 <-- Optimizer has quit (Ping timeout)