#instantbird log on 08 18 2012

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02:56:49 <instant-buildbot> build #598 of linux-nightly-default is complete: Success [build successful]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/linux-nightly-default/builds/598
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10:34:10 <clokep> aleth: Doesn't bother me that SkyDrive is Windows only. ;) Of course if we actually were to use something like FileLink...people could store it on anything that supported.
10:34:26 <clokep> Any unbelievable photos flo?
10:37:22 <flo> clokep: I haven't finished sorting them / uploading them ;)
10:42:54 <clokep> OK. :P
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11:17:02 <aleth> clokep: for syncing profiles/logs, it should bother even you that it is Windows-only, after all the whole point of that is to work across devices ;)
11:17:19 <aleth> But you're right, Filelink means we don't have to worry about any of that
11:37:36 <flo> I don't understand why you all are talking about filelink as a thing to store personal data on
11:37:59 <flo> shouldn't it require some form of login or credential verification before the profile can be downloaded?
11:38:44 <flo> and we want to keep appending more data to the same files, don't we?
12:04:34 <aleth> flo: Maybe I am misinformed, but doesn't filelink include a unified API to Dropbox etc, so you can store/access files privately as well as sharing them?
12:05:13 <flo> I don't think so
12:05:49 <aleth> So it's only "upload file, get a public link"?
12:06:09 <aleth> That wouldn't be enough for syncing logs of course...
12:09:51 <flo> I haven't checked the API, but I don't see why filelink would expose more than that
12:10:03 <flo> there's also a way to know how much space is left on the user's account
12:10:48 <aleth> I thought there was a way to send a link where the recipient would need some form of credential to access it
12:11:00 <aleth> But I haven't checked the API either... there are no docs anyway
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12:15:32 <Mic> Hi
12:22:18 <aleth> Watching people trying to MUC via twitter is really really painful
12:23:11 <aleth> Lots of 1/2 and 2/2... crazy abbreviations... most of the 140 chars taken up by @participant names.... totally broken threading...
12:28:39 <aleth> There is a need for a protocol that is public but scales better from "1 to everyone" to "many to many"
12:32:08 <aleth> The equivalent of a party where people can spontaneously form transient groups, without any overhead
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12:35:49 <Mic> http://xkcd.com/927/
12:36:34 <aleth> yeah...
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12:45:41 <Mic> aleth: but you have a point, yes
12:48:35 <flo> aleth: isn't this what people try to do when following a hashtag?
12:48:57 <aleth> flo: of course. It's a channel.
12:49:19 <aleth> My point is that twitter should and could have supported @... and #... better once they showed up in the wild
12:52:45 <aleth> as they showed users were trying to do something the protocol didn't support
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12:56:49 <aleth> They have this linear threading model which only works for conversations between 2 people (at best) even though that's really the exception in a public medium such as twitter
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13:00:07 <flo> aleth: isn't threading purposefully difficult to discourage long threads without preventing it completely?
13:01:31 <aleth> flo: Maybe... it just seems broken to me. Half the time it even fails between 2 people as somebody forgets to "reply" explicitly.
13:01:58 <aleth> I agree it was never the intended use of the protocol
13:02:04 <flo> aleth: or as someone replies twice to the same message, and threading is no longer linear ;)
13:02:31 <aleth> yes ;)
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