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00:06:01 <-- chrisccoulson has quit (Ping timeout) 00:09:18 <-- myk has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.3a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 00:10:59 <-- clokep has quit (Ping timeout) 00:27:33 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 00:27:33 * ChanServ sets mode +o clokep 00:31:12 <-- clokep has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.3a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 00:48:38 --> groovecoder has joined #instantbird 01:01:12 <-- aleth has quit (Input/output error) 01:01:16 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 01:01:16 * ChanServ sets mode +h aleth 01:01:37 <-- aleth has quit (Input/output error) 02:56:49 <instant-buildbot> build #598 of linux-nightly-default is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/linux-nightly-default/builds/598 03:15:32 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 03:15:32 * ChanServ sets mode +o clokep 03:21:51 <-- clokep has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.3a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 04:32:19 <-- Suiseiseki has quit (Client exited) 04:32:53 --> Suiseiseki has joined #instantbird 05:01:52 <instant-buildbot> build #680 of win32-nightly-default is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/win32-nightly-default/builds/680 05:33:17 --> sonny has joined #instantbird 05:34:14 --> Optimizer has joined #instantbird 05:36:03 <-- Optimizer has quit (Ping timeout) 05:51:51 <-- sonny has quit (Ping timeout) 06:12:52 <instant-buildbot> build #586 of macosx-nightly-default is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/macosx-nightly-default/builds/586 06:25:33 --> jb has joined #instantbird 06:56:06 --> Optimizer has joined #instantbird 07:18:31 <-- jb has quit (Ping timeout) 07:22:11 --> meh has joined #instantbird 09:03:49 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 09:03:49 * ChanServ sets mode +h aleth 09:12:04 --> Even1 has joined #instantbird 09:31:29 <-- aleth has quit (Quit: Au revoir) 10:22:02 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 10:22:02 * ChanServ sets mode +o clokep 10:34:10 <clokep> aleth: Doesn't bother me that SkyDrive is Windows only. ;) Of course if we actually were to use something like FileLink...people could store it on anything that supported. 10:34:26 <clokep> Any unbelievable photos flo? 10:37:22 <flo> clokep: I haven't finished sorting them / uploading them ;) 10:42:54 <clokep> OK. :P 11:03:22 <-- clokep has quit (Ping timeout) 11:13:11 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 11:13:11 * ChanServ sets mode +h aleth 11:17:02 <aleth> clokep: for syncing profiles/logs, it should bother even you that it is Windows-only, after all the whole point of that is to work across devices ;) 11:17:19 <aleth> But you're right, Filelink means we don't have to worry about any of that 11:37:36 <flo> I don't understand why you all are talking about filelink as a thing to store personal data on 11:37:59 <flo> shouldn't it require some form of login or credential verification before the profile can be downloaded? 11:38:44 <flo> and we want to keep appending more data to the same files, don't we? 12:04:34 <aleth> flo: Maybe I am misinformed, but doesn't filelink include a unified API to Dropbox etc, so you can store/access files privately as well as sharing them? 12:05:13 <flo> I don't think so 12:05:49 <aleth> So it's only "upload file, get a public link"? 12:06:09 <aleth> That wouldn't be enough for syncing logs of course... 12:09:51 <flo> I haven't checked the API, but I don't see why filelink would expose more than that 12:10:03 <flo> there's also a way to know how much space is left on the user's account 12:10:48 <aleth> I thought there was a way to send a link where the recipient would need some form of credential to access it 12:11:00 <aleth> But I haven't checked the API either... there are no docs anyway 12:14:50 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 12:14:51 * ChanServ sets mode +h Mic 12:15:32 <Mic> Hi 12:22:18 <aleth> Watching people trying to MUC via twitter is really really painful 12:23:11 <aleth> Lots of 1/2 and 2/2... crazy abbreviations... most of the 140 chars taken up by @participant names.... totally broken threading... 12:28:39 <aleth> There is a need for a protocol that is public but scales better from "1 to everyone" to "many to many" 12:32:08 <aleth> The equivalent of a party where people can spontaneously form transient groups, without any overhead 12:33:07 <-- meh has quit (Ping timeout) 12:35:49 <Mic> http://xkcd.com/927/ 12:36:34 <aleth> yeah... 12:37:36 --> Andrey has joined #instantbird 12:45:41 <Mic> aleth: but you have a point, yes 12:48:35 <flo> aleth: isn't this what people try to do when following a hashtag? 12:48:57 <aleth> flo: of course. It's a channel. 12:49:19 <aleth> My point is that twitter should and could have supported @... and #... better once they showed up in the wild 12:52:45 <aleth> as they showed users were trying to do something the protocol didn't support 12:53:15 <-- Andrey has quit (Quit: ) 12:54:13 --> meh has joined #instantbird 12:56:49 <aleth> They have this linear threading model which only works for conversations between 2 people (at best) even though that's really the exception in a public medium such as twitter 12:57:21 <-- Even1 has quit (Input/output error) 13:00:07 <flo> aleth: isn't threading purposefully difficult to discourage long threads without preventing it completely? 13:01:31 <aleth> flo: Maybe... it just seems broken to me. Half the time it even fails between 2 people as somebody forgets to "reply" explicitly. 13:01:58 <aleth> I agree it was never the intended use of the protocol 13:02:04 <flo> aleth: or as someone replies twice to the same message, and threading is no longer linear ;) 13:02:31 <aleth> yes ;) 13:15:28 <-- Mic has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.3a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 13:16:04 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 13:16:04 * ChanServ sets mode +h Mic 13:48:42 <-- Kaishi has quit (Ping timeout) 13:52:11 --> Kaishi has joined #instantbird 13:53:13 --> sonny has joined #instantbird 13:55:53 <-- sonny has quit (Ping timeout) 13:56:03 <-- Kaishi has quit (Input/output error) 13:56:08 --> Kaishi has joined #instantbird 13:58:30 <-- groovecoder has quit (Ping timeout) 13:59:40 <-- Mic has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.3a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 14:02:34 --> groovecoder has joined #instantbird 14:10:11 <-- Optimizer has quit (Ping timeout) 14:23:35 --> sonny has joined #instantbird 14:24:29 <-- sonny has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.3a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 14:45:43 --> mikk_s has joined #instantbird 14:52:45 --> Optimizer has joined #instantbird 14:55:35 <-- groovecoder has quit (Ping timeout) 14:58:45 <-- mikk_s has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2 -- http://www.instantbird.com) 14:59:30 --> mikk_s has joined #instantbird 15:00:39 <-- mikk_s has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2 -- http://www.instantbird.com) 15:11:13 <-- meh has quit (Ping timeout) 15:11:25 --> meh has joined #instantbird 15:50:38 --> groovecoder has joined #instantbird 15:55:27 --> mikk_s has joined #instantbird 16:22:33 <-- mikk_s has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2 -- http://www.instantbird.com) 16:39:28 --> igorko has joined #instantbird 17:20:36 <-- Suiseiseki has quit (Connection reset by peer) 17:21:07 --> Suiseiseki has joined #instantbird 17:40:32 <-- meh has quit (Ping timeout) 17:54:03 --> meh has joined #instantbird 17:55:49 <-- meh has quit (Ping timeout) 18:00:17 --> meh has joined #instantbird 20:16:07 <-- igorko has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2 -- http://www.instantbird.com) 20:39:00 --> igorko has joined #instantbird 20:41:33 --> ea4eoz has joined #instantbird 20:45:37 <-- ea4eoz has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2 -- http://www.instantbird.com) 21:11:02 <-- Suiseiseki has quit (Connection reset by peer) 21:11:50 --> Suiseiseki has joined #instantbird 22:04:17 <-- igorko has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2 -- http://www.instantbird.com) 22:11:15 <-- Optimizer has quit (Ping timeout) 22:15:41 --> deOmega has joined #instantbird 22:16:03 <-- deOmega has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.3a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 22:16:04 --> deOmega has joined #instantbird 22:22:10 <-- deOmega has quit (Client exited) 22:22:12 --> deOmega has joined #instantbird 22:28:59 <-- deOmega has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.3a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 22:29:05 --> deOmega has joined #instantbird 22:29:31 <-- deOmega has quit (Client exited) 22:29:32 --> deOmega has joined #instantbird 22:36:17 <-- deOmega has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.3a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com)