#instantbird log on 08 15 2012

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00:01:42 <instantbot> aletheia2@fastmail.fm requested review from clokep@gmail.com for attachment 1805 on bug 1642.
00:01:47 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1642 nor, --, ---, aletheia2, ASSI, Pressing enter or escape after editing display name or status message causes focus to be lost
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00:37:07 <aleth> Hmm, gerv never replied to my email. Is there some secret handshake?
00:37:42 <instantbot> clokep@gmail.com granted review for attachment 1804 on bug 1632.
00:37:45 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1632 enh, --, ---, aletheia2, ASSI, Mark participants as inactive after XXX time
00:37:58 <clokep> aleth: No, how long ago did you send it?
00:38:10 <aleth> When you asked me to... 
00:38:14 <aleth> ah, aug 3
00:39:15 <clokep> I'd say around 2 weeks start getting conerned.
00:39:17 <clokep> He's a busy guy. :)
00:39:38 <aleth> Yeah ;) and it's not exactly urgent...
00:40:04 <aleth> Did you ever get the mailing list working btw?
00:40:06 <instantbot> clokep@gmail.com requested review from florian@instantbird .org for attachment 1805 on bug 1642.
00:40:09 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1642 nor, --, ---, aletheia2, ASSI, Pressing enter or escape after editing display name or status message causes focus to be lost
00:40:19 <clokep> FWIW I tried setting up squid and failed. It's super complicated.
00:40:30 <clokep> aleth: Yes. Waiting until flo gets back so we can switch it over.
00:40:38 <aleth> :)
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00:41:44 <aleth> Proxy pain... maybe somebody will eventually come up with a semi-public one one can use.
00:42:02 <clokep> I searched for a public one too and failed...
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00:43:39 <aleth> EionRobb might know of one ;)
00:44:47 <aleth> Hmm, something like this, is that the same thing? http://www.charlesproxy.com/
00:45:52 <EionRobb> what you trying to achieve?
00:47:04 <clokep> EionRobb: An http proxy that allows IRC traffic.
00:47:11 <EionRobb> ah ok
00:47:26 <EionRobb> any should be able to if they allow the CONNECT http request type
00:47:57 <clokep> Yes, but finding one that alllows that seems to be a fun challenge. :)
00:48:20 <EionRobb> oh ok
00:48:27 <EionRobb> yeah, charlesproxy can do CONNECT 
00:48:57 <clokep> aleth: Any chance of stealing the review for bug 1638? :)
00:49:00 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1638 maj, --, ---, clokep, ASSI, update Instantbird F.A.Q.
00:49:03 <clokep> Sweet, I'll give that a try maybe.
00:54:54 <instantbot> aletheia2@fastmail.fm granted review for attachment 1803 on bug 1638.
00:54:56 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1638 maj, --, ---, clokep, ASSI, update Instantbird F.A.Q.
00:55:16 * clokep was hoping that Charles Proxy would have a zip file...
00:57:30 <aleth> Wow, this review actually has some custom screenshots http://lemagtechno.com/instantbird/
00:58:31 <clokep> aleth: There's an addon in the review queue fyi.
00:59:03 <aleth> not sure what the second screenshot is about, but hey...
01:00:02 <aleth> clokep: thanks. I won't get around to that right now though
01:00:21 <clokep> OK. I wasn't sure if it emails people or how any of that works?
01:00:30 <aleth> No, it doesn't :(
01:01:04 <aleth> You only get an email when someone resubmits an add-on after you r- it. So thanks for pointing it out.
01:01:10 <clokep> Yeah. I'll maybe get to it in a bit.
01:12:54 <clokep> So as far as I can tell...IRC works over the proxy.
01:12:56 <clokep> Oh duh.
01:12:59 <clokep> It's ignoring it. :sigh:
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02:47:33 <instant-buildbot> build #594 of linux-nightly-default is complete: Success [build successful]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/linux-nightly-default/builds/594
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04:35:46 <instant-buildbot> build #677 of win32-nightly-default is complete: Success [build successful]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/win32-nightly-default/builds/677
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06:12:25 <instant-buildbot> build #583 of macosx-nightly-default is complete: Success [build successful]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/macosx-nightly-default/builds/583
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10:23:10 <clokep> http://hg.mozilla.org/comm-central/rev/ca6d6339aee9 will need to be ported to instantbird (talking about the chat/ part of it).
10:32:58 <Kissaki> whats the correlation between the error messages in the accounts window (specific to an account) and the error console?
10:34:20 <clokep> I'm not really sure what you're asking...
10:39:48 <clokep> Kissaki: The error console is more for logging while the account manager shows errors that are supposed to show up in the UI. A lot of the "errors" in the error console aren't really errors, libpurple is just dumb.
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10:55:29 <Kissaki> uh, I just noticed there hasn't even been a commit since 1.2 release, so it should definitely not fail, my jabbers connecting
10:55:43 <Kissaki> the icon differs for my own build. Is that because I built debug?
10:56:49 <aleth> It probably uses the nightly icon.
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10:58:26 <aleth> Not even half as many update pings as downloads - how does that work out?
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10:59:59 <barlas> aleth: Lots of new users then :)
11:00:34 <barlas> Two of those new downloads would me. I don't think nightlies are updated to release, so I download a new one.
11:03:10 <aleth> Nightlies just update every day...
11:03:26 <Kissaki> you mean night
11:03:27 <Kissaki> :P
11:03:41 <aleth> Kissaki: depends where you live ;)
11:04:07 <aleth> But yeah, they get built overnight :)
11:04:32 <barlas> And they don't have the shiny release icon.
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11:18:17 <Kissaki> no idea what’s wrong then …
11:18:17 <Kissaki> I put the information together in a gist https://gist.github.com/f01858f5e99c10563324
11:18:17 <Kissaki> shall I file a bug report?
11:21:26 <aleth> Kissaki: If it only happens on your own build, it's pretty unlikely to be an IB bug.
11:22:07 <aleth> Would it help to compare your build logs with those of the buildbot? http://buildbot.instantbird.org/
11:23:22 <aleth> Those are all libpurple bugs, so maybe something goes wrong when building that.
11:23:53 <aleth> I don't know anything about building on Windows unfortunately.
11:37:29 <instantbot> aletheia2@fastmail.fm cancelled review?(florian@instantbird .org) for attachment 1805 on bug 1642.
11:37:30 <instantbot> aletheia2@fastmail.fm requested review from florian@instantbird .org for attachment 1806 on bug 1642.
11:37:32 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1642 nor, --, ---, aletheia2, ASSI, Pressing enter or escape after editing display name or status message causes focus to be lost
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12:16:39 <clokep_work> Kissaki: Did you use my mozconfig?
12:16:44 <Kissaki> yes
12:16:55 <clokep_work> It automatically sets the Halloween branding (so I can tell it apart from nightly and release builds).
12:17:00 <clokep_work> Except on Halloween, obviously. :)
12:17:16 <Kissaki> lol
12:17:22 <clokep_work> And yes, there haven't been any commits since 1.2. Some are waiting for flo though. :)
12:17:30 <Kissaki> so it's not even nightly but halloween...
12:18:21 <clokep_work> Kissaki: jabber.org is being flaky. I'm told...
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12:56:49 <clokep_work> aleth: Ping me when you get online?
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14:14:57 <aleth> clokep_work: ping
14:16:29 <clokep_work> aleth: What did you want to update on the roadmap?
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14:17:06 <aleth> clokep_work: I guess it needs a 1.3 section or at least not treat 1.2 like the next release
14:17:26 <aleth> Huh, looking at it I think it wasn't updated after 1.1 either
14:17:55 <aleth> For past releases I am not sure why it doesn't just link to the release notes
14:18:36 <clokep_work> Because it's meant to serve as a history of what /was/ planned for the release.
14:19:04 <aleth> Hmm, but in that case maybe we shouldnt be linking to it from the FAQ
14:19:26 <clokep_work> Ah, do we really do that?
14:20:02 <aleth> Twice even
14:20:25 <aleth> Cf the comment on the release post...
14:20:27 <clokep_work> :(
14:20:33 <clokep_work> Yes it needs to be updated then.
14:20:46 <clokep_work> OK, let's update it then! :P
14:20:54 <aleth> Or the FAQ should be changed since the roadmap isn't that useful to anyone
14:21:29 <aleth> (as a guide to the next version, I mean)
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14:24:12 <clokep_work> Right.
14:24:31 <clokep_work> Well, we don't fully plan this stuff out, but I guess it's been discussed a bit. Do we know what we /really/ hope to be in 1.3?
14:24:51 <aleth> The import wizard!
14:25:03 <aleth> Other than that... who knows
14:27:27 <aleth> On the blog post I ended up commenting something like "come to #instantbird if you want to know more"
14:29:58 <clokep_work> aleth: Oh, you can't edi tthis page it seems...
14:30:04 <aleth> No...
14:30:32 <clokep_work> My bad. :)
14:30:36 <clokep_work> OK well I can do it then...
14:30:46 <clokep_work> I don't think we need a separate page like 1.0 / 0.2 had, right?
14:31:28 <aleth> Not really. Keeping it simple I guess...
14:31:59 <aleth> Could grab some long term plans from here https://etherpad.mozilla.org/ib-1-3
14:32:14 <clokep_work> Yes...
14:32:17 <aleth> but that might be too detailed idk
14:35:54 <clokep_work> I think so. :)
14:36:53 <clokep_work> aleth: Well I'll add the stuff I'm hoping to do on it, is there anything you're hoping to do I should add?
14:37:27 <aleth> Not really, as I haven't decided yet, thanks :)
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14:43:32 <clokep_work> Alright. :) Sounds like a plan then. :P
14:48:06 <clokep_work> aleth: https://wiki.instantbird.org/Instantbird:Roadmap#1.3
14:49:47 <aleth> nice :)
14:50:11 <aleth> You think switching to JSXMPP is going to happen? Would be nice...
14:50:22 <clokep_work> Maybe it should be in the eventually list. ;)
14:50:37 <aleth> Kind of out of our hands...
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15:43:46 <groovecoder> is the 'dark' variant of the 'simple' theme included with InstantBird, or do I have to download it?
15:44:12 <clokep_work> groovecoder: I think it's included.
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15:44:17 <clokep_work> Where did you see it listed?
15:44:26 <clokep_work> (Also it's "Instantbird" not "InstantBird", no capitable B. :))
15:44:31 <clokep_work> I'm not sure why everyone does that. :-S
15:44:45 <wnayes> groovecoder: I have a Simple Dark and never installed it.
15:45:03 <groovecoder> wnayes: same here. bro just downloaded and installed on Ubuntu and doesn't have the dark variant
15:48:43 <clokep_work> groovecoder: What version are you on?
15:48:56 <groovecoder> clokep_work: it's a fresh download just now, so I assume 1.2
15:49:09 <clokep_work> Tools > Options > Themes > Message Styles > Choose "Simple" > Choose "Dark" as the variant in the bottom.
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15:56:50 <clokep_work> groovecoder: Do you not have that option there? (Also what OS?) wnayes ^
15:57:17 <wnayes> Win7 nightly.
15:57:47 <groovecoder> clokep_work, wnayes: ubuntu
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16:06:56 <groovecoder> he was able to download and install it
16:07:06 <groovecoder> clokep_work: ^
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16:08:01 <clokep_work> groovecoder: "download and install it"? Install what? It's included by default (or should be...unless it's not packaged on ubuntu for some reason).
16:08:41 <aleth> groovecoder: I don't believe you haven't got it. Look for "Variant" after selecting Simple and then change normal -> Dark
16:09:08 <groovecoder> aleth: the variant dropdown was disabled
16:09:24 <aleth> You have to select the Simple style first
16:09:55 <aleth> If it still doesn't work, file a bug with a screenshot please ;)
16:10:29 <clokep_work> groovecoder: Please check your version? Did you install from aptitude or from the website?
16:11:13 <aleth> It would be very weird if it wasn't there.
16:11:16 <groovecoder> aptitude
16:11:21 <groovecoder> clokep_work: ^
16:12:24 <clokep_work> groovecoder: Yeah that's like Instantbird 0.2 (i.e. it's ancient).
16:12:26 <aleth> groovecoder: To our knowledge nobody has volunteered to package IB for ubuntu.
16:12:31 <aleth> Sadly :(
16:12:35 <groovecoder> aleth, clokep_work: ah
16:12:40 <clokep_work> Maybe aleth can provide you with that awesome link he found for install Instantbird in Ubuntu?
16:12:53 <clokep_work> groovecoder: But nothing to be sad about! The new version is wayyy better. :)
16:13:12 <aleth> groovecoder: I doubt he needs it, but here goes... http://www.samundra.com.np/installing-instantbird-in-ubuntu11-10/1121
16:13:22 <groovecoder> clokep_work, aleth: cool, thanks for the help
16:14:00 <aleth> groovecoder: If you know someone who knows about packaging we'd be happy :) It would be great to have an up to date IB in the ubuntu repos
16:14:38 <groovecoder> aleth: I don't know anyone off the top of my head
16:16:23 <aleth> clokep_work: It would probably be better if they removed 0.2 from the repos altogether, that would spare the confusion
16:16:40 <clokep_work> Possibly...I'd guess it doesn't update to our versions.
16:16:53 <aleth> They'll have disabled that so it only updates via the repo
16:19:32 <clokep_work> Right.
16:20:37 <aleth> After all if you install an app "properly" it generally won't have the permissions to update itself when you just run it
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16:28:50 <kowey> hello #instantbird, just a random bit of feedback: w/ IB 1.1 I reported that for some reason IB wasn't able to give my password to the company IRC server (which was annoying because I'd have to manually msg NickServ and not be able to auto-join my channel)
16:29:00 <kowey> well, somehow IB 1.2 fixed it! happy kowey!
16:29:14 <kowey> thanks, IB crew!
16:29:39 <aleth> kowey: clokep fixed it :) (though I'm not sure what did it exactly)
16:30:28 <aleth> Well, he fixed it by rewriting all of IRC... ;)
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16:46:43 <clokep_work> kowey: Excellent. :) I have no idea what I did to fix it, but I'm glad it works.
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17:05:48 <Tomek> Hi! 
17:05:48 <Tomek> I'd like to give some feedback and ask some questions about the new IB 1.2 :)
17:05:48 <Tomek> You have all done very good job, and I'm excited to see all the improvements from nightlies to finally land in stable release!
17:06:43 <Tomek> However, I have some difficulties on an a bit older linux system (Scientific linux 6 - basically equivalent to Red Hat Enterprise 6)
17:06:43 <Tomek> the problem is, I have no sound and system notifications from the time of update
17:07:09 <Tomek> everything is ok on another distro (openSUSE12.1)
17:08:06 <clokep_work> Does sound work on newer versions of Mozilla in general on that system?
17:08:10 <clokep_work> Moz 14.0.1 specifically.
17:08:16 <Tomek> i tried clearing all folders with cashe in it's name, but it helped for like a minute, and now i still have no sound (andother cleaning doesn't help)
17:08:36 <clokep_work> Hmm...that's strange.
17:08:42 <clokep_work> I don't remember us changing anything w/ sounds...
17:08:48 <Tomek> and one thing
17:09:14 <aleth> any error messages in the error console?
17:09:45 <Tomek> when i downloaded just new IB 1.2 and used empty profile folder, sound worked
17:10:22 <Tomek> when I started this newly donwloaded (not updated via updater) IB with my old profile folder, sound didn't work...
17:10:41 <Tomek> but it worked on the other dostro with the same profile folder
17:12:09 <aleth> Very strange... maybe there is some about;config setting in the old profile you can tweak to fix this
17:12:26 <clokep_work> But if it works w/ the same profile on a diff distro...I'm stumped.
17:12:56 <Tomek> nothing in the error console that seems related..
17:13:09 <aleth> It's not like we do anything strange with the sounds
17:13:39 <Tomek> note: the system notifications disappeared too
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17:14:24 <clokep_work> You don't have like a weird extension installed on only one system?
17:15:02 <Tomek> I have just two extensions: Hide auto joins, and Toggle participant list
17:15:12 <Tomek> DND extension is disabled
17:15:38 <aleth> Those are in the profile folder anyway
17:15:49 <clokep_work> They can be in the installation folder too, actually.
17:16:23 <Tomek> they are in the profile folder, I installed them on one of the systems and use them on others too
17:16:47 <aleth> It doesn't sound related anyway.
17:17:09 <aleth> Do you see notifications with Firefox 14?
17:17:39 <Tomek> repos are quite rigid here, got 10.0.6
17:18:16 <Tomek> (high stability required since they use this system in CERN :-P)
17:18:26 <aleth> because really it's the mozilla code which handles the sound and notifications...
17:18:52 <aleth> yeah, universities are very slow to update anything generally.
17:18:57 <Tomek> that sounds like we're getting closer
17:19:25 <aleth> What puzzles me is that you say it all works with a fresh profile.
17:19:52 <Tomek> (the use SL5 for daily use actually - kernel from 2007, 6 is still in testing phase :-D)
17:19:59 <aleth> The only thing I can suggest is looking at about:config in your old profile and looking at the bolded (modified) entries to see if anything jumps out at you.
17:20:24 <Tomek> ok
17:20:43 <Tomek> can I filter out just the changed values?
17:20:52 <aleth> Tomek: Right, that's ... cautious :)
17:21:22 <aleth> Btw if you wanted to you could also download a tarball of ff14 and run that locally, see if the same thing happens.
17:21:31 <Tomek> will do
17:22:04 <aleth> It's possible there is some library that is not new enough I guess...
17:22:49 <aleth> Tomek: You can click on the status column header to sort the user set ones to the top
17:23:13 <Tomek> hey, I see notifications now, but still no sound
17:23:41 <Tomek> that's probably i werent in a situation to see notification since the cashe clearing
17:24:09 <Tomek> i was testing the sound by sending a message to myself
17:24:12 <aleth> Btw one way to guarantee weird behaviour is to have two instances of IB with different versions of mozilla in it open at the same time.
17:24:47 <Tomek> I never did that
17:24:51 <aleth> OK.
17:25:05 <aleth> Multiple instances are fine, but don't mix geckos ;)
17:26:19 <Tomek> can i force FF to use specific profile directory? I dont want the new one to make some irreversible changes
17:26:38 <Tomek> or I'll just do a backup...
17:26:39 <aleth> Sure. use firefox -P
17:26:45 <Tomek> ok
17:27:02 <aleth> Also take a look at the system requirements here https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/system-requirements.html
17:32:25 <Tomek> looks like the sound is ok, notifications too
17:32:37 <Tomek> (not flash based sound)
17:35:35 <Tomek> no sound related changes in about: config
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17:41:40 <aleth> If all else fails, just use a fresh profile. You can always copy the log files across after adding the accounts.
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17:45:30 <Tomek> I will experiment a bit, I considered what you say as possible solution, but I wanted to discus the problem a bit first :) thans
17:45:34 <Tomek> thanks
17:45:43 <aleth> Let us know if you figure it out :)
17:46:00 <Tomek> sure, bye ;)
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18:01:42 <clokep_work> :-S
18:01:46 <clokep_work> Confusing issues around upgrades always...
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18:08:41 <wnayes> Hmm, I may have found a bug in the account wizard (present in 1.2 without my changes). It seems menulist options in the Advanced Options panel are not set properly all the time. Can anyone else confirm? (Open the wizard, select AIM, enter any user/pass, on the page with alias open the groupbox and change the Encryption dropdown to a non-default, then hit next and finish. The value will still be default in the Properties dialog)
18:09:12 <wnayes> I have a fix in my wizard code, as I thought this was due to my changes.
18:09:59 <wnayes> Not sure if a bug should be filed, as the import wizard changes could fix it as a side effect :)
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18:13:00 <clokep_work> wnayes: Does it only happen w/ dropdowns?
18:13:09 * clokep_work is curious what the fix is. ;)
18:14:09 <wnayes> Yeah, to my knowledge. It seems to be some issue with the attribute/property value not giving the updated selection. I fixed it by grabbing the attribute (instead of property) when checking all the options for non-defaults.
18:14:39 <wnayes> Yet if you visit the summary page, go back and select it again, it will be preserved :s
18:14:52 <clokep_work> :-/
18:15:03 <clokep_work> I'd file the bug.
18:15:10 <clokep_work> "Bugs are cheap."
18:15:57 <clokep_work> And you can either spin that patch out and put it in there and I can r+ it if it looks good...or you can include it in the other patch.
18:16:07 * clokep_work would probably prefer it be spun out...
18:17:36 <wnayes> OK, it's a one-liner to fix but I don't have the IB code in any patchable form right now (the account wizard has been changed quite a bit)
18:18:04 <clokep_work> Hmm...I mean if that line has significantly changed then don't worry about it.
18:18:49 <aleth> Especially if you are making lots of surrounding changes anyway quite soon...
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18:36:02 <instantbot> New Instantbird (UI) bug 1650 filed by wnayes@gmail.com.
18:36:05 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1650 min, --, ---, nobody, NEW, The value of list type options is not always preserved
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18:38:54 <instantbot> wnayes@gmail.com requested review from clokep@gmail.com for attachment 1807 on bug 1650.
18:38:56 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1650 min, --, ---, wnayes, ASSI, The value of list type options is not always preserved
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18:41:04 <clokep_work> wnayes: Did you check what part of that fails? Is the if statement checking for "value" not work or does elt.value not work?
18:42:03 <wnayes> clokep_work: It returns the default despite that not being the selected option.
18:42:55 <wnayes> The UI does not like to give me any errors in the console, I'm not sure if this is due to some incorrect setting or if that is how it usually is.
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18:44:05 <clokep_work> wnayes: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/XUL/menulist#a-value
18:44:22 <clokep_work> I think we're just misusing "value" there.
18:44:44 * clokep_work wonders if what you want to do is check for "selectedItem" in elt, and then return selectedItem.value
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18:47:23 <wnayes> clokep_work: That works too (just checked it). Do you want another patch?
18:47:44 <clokep_work> I think to keep it in the same style, yes.
18:48:52 <wnayes> The selectedItem probably makes more sense, yes. There probably doesn't even need to be a comment added then
18:49:54 <clokep_work> Yup.
18:54:47 <clokep_work> Thanks wnayes. :)
18:56:28 <instantbot> clokep@gmail.com denied review for attachment 1807 on bug 1650.
18:56:31 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1650 min, --, ---, wnayes, ASSI, The value of list type options is not always preserved
18:57:29 <instantbot> wnayes@gmail.com requested review from clokep@gmail.com for attachment 1808 on bug 1650.
18:59:36 <wnayes> clokep_work: Ah, didn't see your comment until I posted that.
19:00:08 <clokep_work> I don't particularly like the "elt.tagName.toLowerCase() === "menulist""
19:00:14 <clokep_work> Checking a name like that seems really awful. :-/
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19:04:46 <instantbot> wnayes@gmail.com cancelled review?(clokep@gmail.com) for attachment 1808 on bug 1650.
19:04:47 <instantbot> wnayes@gmail.com requested review from clokep@gmail.com for attachment 1809 on bug 1650.
19:04:48 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1650 min, --, ---, wnayes, ASSI, The value of list type options is not always preserved
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19:05:27 <clokep_work> Sorry for the confusion. :)
19:06:39 <clokep_work> Cool I'll test that out when I get home.
19:06:57 <wnayes> clokep_work: No problem, now hopefully that patch will apply. getValue() wasn't changed but the lines around it were.
19:07:48 <clokep_work> Yeah it probably won't apply...but it's easy enough to apply by hand.
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19:16:24 <clokep_work> aleth: (You seem like you might know this), do you know if there's a way to check if URIs are equivalent?
19:21:41 <aleth> Hmm
19:23:28 <aleth> Nothing immediately springs to mind
19:23:49 <aleth> For the definition https://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc3986.txt
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19:25:18 <aleth> You'd think there'd be a method somewhere in mozilla for that...
19:26:43 <aleth> Heh, Berners-Lee et al ;)
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19:27:50 <aleth> clokep_work: how's this? https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/XPCOM_Interface_Reference/nsIURI?redirectlocale=en-US&redirectslug=nsIURI#equals%28%29
19:27:52 <clokep_work> I'm not reading that RFC. :P
19:28:08 <aleth> You're definitely not implementing it :P
19:29:48 <clokep_work> aleth: Ah, that seems what I want, yes. :)
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19:47:55 * aleth tidies up his folder of patches
19:53:14 <aleth> Uh, bug 1498 should have been in 1.2 :(
19:53:18 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1498 nor, --, ---, aletheia2, ASSI, "this.buddy is undefined" on merging two IRC buddies
19:59:00 <clokep_work> :(
19:59:11 <clokep_work> Hopefully flo will clean out his review queue when he gets back.
19:59:53 <aleth> Maybe things will be a little less hectic post-TB15... 
19:59:57 <aleth> and maybe not ;)
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21:44:20 <instantbot> New Instantbird (UI) bug 1651 filed by mk3ll3r@gmail.com.
21:44:22 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1651 nor, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, Introduce a profile editor
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