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00:10:48 <instant-buildbot> build #289 of win32-onCommit is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/win32-onCommit/builds/289 00:12:48 <-- wnayes has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 01:36:37 <instant-buildbot> build #269 of macosx-onCommit is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/macosx-onCommit/builds/269 01:37:12 <instantbot> florian@instantbird.org requested review from clokep@gmail.com for attachment 1789 on bug 1524. 01:37:16 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1524 nor, --, ---, florian, NEW, Moving a JS-XMPP buddy from a tag to another should work and save this change on the server 01:40:56 <instantbot> New Core - General bug 1618 filed by florian@instantbird.org. 01:40:57 <instantbot> florian@instantbird.org requested review from clokep@gmail.com for attachment 1790 on bug 1618. 01:40:58 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1618 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Tags are never really removed from contacts 01:42:54 <flo> debugging that tag mess gave me such an headache :( 02:41:25 <instant-buildbot> build #581 of linux-nightly-default is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/linux-nightly-default/builds/581 02:58:01 <-- vicnet has quit (Ping timeout) 02:58:56 --> vicnet has joined #instantbird 03:47:36 <-- vicnet has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 04:15:28 <instant-buildbot> build #666 of win32-nightly-default is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/win32-nightly-default/builds/666 04:23:52 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 04:23:52 * ChanServ sets mode +o clokep 04:31:16 <instantbot> clokep@gmail.com granted review for attachment 1789 on bug 1524. 04:31:18 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1524 nor, --, ---, florian, NEW, Moving a JS-XMPP buddy from a tag to another should work and save this change on the server 04:32:37 <instantbot> clokep@gmail.com granted review for attachment 1790 on bug 1618. 04:32:39 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1618 maj, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Tags are never really removed from contacts 04:39:43 <-- clokep has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 04:42:19 --> Optimizer has joined #instantbird 04:44:01 <-- Optimizer has quit (Ping timeout) 05:20:26 <-- Kaishi has quit (Quit: Kaishi) 05:51:58 --> Kaishi has joined #instantbird 06:08:38 <instant-buildbot> build #573 of macosx-nightly-default is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/macosx-nightly-default/builds/573 06:09:18 <-- Mook has quit (Quit: Mook) 06:48:27 --> Optimizer has joined #instantbird 06:52:18 --> jb has joined #instantbird 08:05:33 <-- jb has quit (Quit: jb) 08:05:48 --> jb has joined #instantbird 08:08:38 <-- jb has quit (Ping timeout) 08:31:48 --> sonny has joined #instantbird 08:36:11 <-- sonny has quit (Ping timeout) 08:43:42 --> jb has joined #instantbird 09:51:07 <-- jb has quit (Ping timeout) 09:54:30 --> sonny has joined #instantbird 10:03:03 --> jb has joined #instantbird 10:09:42 <-- jb has quit (Ping timeout) 11:11:03 <-- sonny has quit (Ping timeout) 11:14:25 --> sonny has joined #instantbird 12:01:57 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 12:01:57 * ChanServ sets mode +o clokep 12:07:41 <clokep> flo: Ithink your evaluation is correct. 12:07:56 <clokep> I've never seen that behavior personally (I probably don't try to change tags often), but that would be EXTREMELY frustrating. 13:06:20 <-- flo has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 13:06:49 --> flo has joined #instantbird 13:06:50 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo flo 13:19:21 <-- flo has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 13:19:37 --> flo has joined #instantbird 13:19:37 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo flo 13:20:25 <flo> how do we feel about http://crash-stats.instantbird.com/query/query?version=Instantbird%3A1.2a1pre&date=&range_value=1&range_unit=weeks&query_search=signature&query_type=exact&query=&build_id=&process_type=all&do_query=1 ? 13:41:47 <-- sonny has quit (Ping timeout) 13:49:56 --> sonny has joined #instantbird 13:54:05 <-- clokep has quit (Ping timeout) 14:10:54 * flo reads http://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0071.html 14:56:56 --> skeledrew has joined #instantbird 14:58:50 --> igorko has joined #instantbird 15:01:44 <instantbot> florian@instantbird.org requested review from clokep@gmail.com for attachment 1791 on bug 1231. 15:01:48 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1231 nor, --, 1.2, florian, NEW, 'Display Formatting of incoming messages', not implemented in JS-XMPP 15:02:09 * flo hopes clokep reappears soon. 15:02:52 <flo> the patch is quite straight forward so I may start working on an building RC and let him review post-landing. 15:14:04 --> barlas has joined #instantbird 15:41:07 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/428d3629a9d2 - Florian Quèze - Bug 1618 - Tags are never really removed from contacts, r=clokep. 15:41:08 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/4df52d793c89 - Florian Quèze - Set version number to 1.2, change default revisions in client.py and add shipped-locales. 15:41:09 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/e3147073a9ba - Florian Quèze - Bump the version number to 1.3a1pre for nightlies. 15:41:10 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/600d4b3e2af9 - Florian Quèze - Bug 1524 - Moving a JS-XMPP buddy from a tag to another should work and save this change on the server, r=clokep. 15:41:11 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/4133cec9379f - Florian Quèze - Bug 1231 - JS-XMPP should display HTML messages. 15:43:49 <instant-buildbot> build #303 of linux-onCommit is complete: Exception [exception] Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/linux-onCommit/builds/303 blamelist: Florian Qu?ze <florian@instantbird.org> 15:43:51 <instant-buildbot> build #270 of macosx-onCommit is complete: Exception [exception] Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/macosx-onCommit/builds/270 blamelist: Florian Qu?ze <florian@instantbird.org> 15:43:53 <instant-buildbot> build #290 of win32-onCommit is complete: Exception [exception] Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/win32-onCommit/builds/290 blamelist: Florian Qu?ze <florian@instantbird.org> 15:52:01 <-- igorko has quit (Client exited) 15:58:40 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 15:58:41 * ChanServ sets mode +h Mic 15:58:52 <Mic> Hi 16:11:03 <flo> Mic: hello :) 16:11:57 --> vicnet has joined #instantbird 16:12:40 <instantbot> New Instantbird (UI) bug 1619 filed by benediktp@ymail.com. 16:12:42 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1619 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, [DE] Korrekturen an der Download-Seite (corrections for the download page) 16:14:21 <instantbot> benediktp@ymail.com requested review from the wind for attachment 1792 on bug 1619. 16:14:35 <Mic> pffff... 16:15:51 <instantbot> benediktp@ymail.com requested review from bugi@media.fjmail.d e for attachment 1792 on bug 1619. 16:15:54 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1619 nor, --, ---, benediktp, ASSI, [DE] Korrekturen an der Download-Seite (corrections for the download page) 16:17:13 <Mic> Bugzilla happily suggests possible matches when entering a partial name for the CC list but fails when doing so for a review :( 16:18:26 <flo> wow, why are the build slaves cloning mozilla-release :( 16:20:52 <instant-buildbot> build #0 of win32-release-1.2 is complete: Failure [failed shell_2] Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/win32-release-1.2/builds/0 16:21:40 <flo> pfff 16:24:11 <instant-buildbot> build #1 of win32-release-1.2 is complete: Failure [failed shell_2] Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/win32-release-1.2/builds/1 16:29:00 <Mic> bye 16:29:04 <-- Mic has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 16:49:21 --> igorko has joined #instantbird 17:14:53 <instant-buildbot> build #0 of linux-release-1.2 is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/linux-release-1.2/builds/0 17:16:06 <-- barlas has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) 17:24:22 <-- sonny has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 17:24:30 --> sonny has joined #instantbird 17:42:43 <flo> the linux 1.2 rc is ready, if any one wants to start testing it :) 17:50:26 <flo> so, who's on linux here? vicnet maybe? :) 17:53:54 <vicnet> flo: yep, getting i 17:53:58 <vicnet> it* 17:56:55 <-- vicnet has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 17:57:15 --> vicnet has joined #instantbird 18:05:08 <flo> vicnet: found the link on the server? :) 18:06:26 <vicnet> I can't find it XD 18:07:26 <flo> so you got it, restarted, by couldn't find the link? :-S 18:07:31 <flo> *but 18:08:01 <flo> vicnet: http://ftp.instantbird.com/instantbird/releases/1.2-candidates/2012-08-05-18-instantbird/ 18:08:17 <vicnet> I used the updater in IB, that's why I restarted⦠18:08:55 <vicnet> thanks 18:09:04 <flo> hmm, my ubuntu started with an horrible looking GTK theme, don't know why :-S 18:11:36 <-- vicnet has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 18:11:58 --> vicnet has joined #instantbird 18:12:21 <vicnet> flo: alright, NOW I got it :) 18:14:23 --> flo1 has joined #instantbird 18:14:55 <flo1> http://i.imgur.com/LeF9o.png 18:30:53 <-- Kaishi has quit (Quit: Kaishi) 18:30:57 --> Kaishi has joined #instantbird 18:32:18 <-- flo1 has quit (Client exited) 18:41:08 --> Mnyromyr has joined #instantbird 19:01:54 <-- sonny has quit (Ping timeout) 19:18:52 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 19:18:53 * ChanServ sets mode +h aleth 19:19:12 <-- igorko has quit (Client exited) 19:19:35 <aleth> 1.2rc :) 19:20:33 <aleth> easy to tell because all add-ons are disabled ;) 19:21:19 --> Mook has joined #instantbird 19:22:27 <aleth> Something is odd though: e.g. https://minus.com/mbfPRWmfvw/1f 19:23:19 <aleth> I wonder if that's IB or something else changing the way fonts are handled 19:32:18 <-- aleth has quit (Quit: Au revoir) 19:32:25 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 19:32:25 * ChanServ sets mode +h aleth 19:33:01 <flo> aleth: what's strange with fonts? 19:33:29 <aleth> Probably nothing to do with IB... but look at the exclamation marks 19:34:06 <aleth> They didn't look like 'l's last time I checked... 19:49:03 <-- vicnet has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2 -- http://www.instantbird.com) 19:49:10 --> vicnet has joined #instantbird 19:53:05 <aleth> Yup, not an IB issue. 19:54:20 <aleth> (The only IB thing I could think of that could do it would have been some moz14 change anyway...) 20:03:25 <-- aleth has quit (Quit: Au revoir) 20:03:27 <instantbot> New Instantbird (UI) bug 1620 filed by florian@instantbird.org. 20:03:28 <instantbot> florian@instantbird.org requested review from the wind for attachment 1793 on bug 1620. 20:03:29 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1620 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, If the external protocol service is misconfigured, the thanks page shouldn't load inside the about d 20:04:53 <flo> that patch is trivial, anybody can review it ;) 20:05:11 <flo> aleth, clokep, Mic, whoever looks at it and feel confident about it first 20:08:51 <instantbot> aletheia2@fastmail.fm granted review for attachment 1788 on bug 1338. 20:08:55 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1338 nor, --, 1.2, florian, RESO FIXED, Connect button is disabled after an account spends more than half a second in the disconnecting stat 20:30:37 <instantbot> mook.moz+bugs.instantbird@gmail.com granted review for attachment 1793 on bug 1620. 20:30:40 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1620 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, If the external protocol service is misconfigured, the thanks page shouldn't load inside the about d 20:30:41 <Mook> muahahahaha 20:33:49 <flo> Mook: <3 20:34:29 <Mook> given that I haven't done much, no hard feelings if you don't like my r+ either :p 20:36:54 <flo> Mook: I like anybody spending time to look at our code and help us improve it! 20:37:11 <flo> :) 20:37:25 <Mook> oh, yeah, I meant that more as "haven't worked hard enough to consider myself as a peer, so probably can't give r+s, but I don't think you care" :p 20:38:25 <flo> doesn't mozilla have a policy these days saying the a module owner or peer can request reviews from non-peers and treat them as valid? 20:39:09 --> sonny has joined #instantbird 20:39:40 <Mook> hmm, not sure, haven't been following close enough. but it sounds reasonable. 20:41:00 <-- gerard-majax has quit (Ping timeout) 20:41:06 <flo> Instantbird policies don't have to match Mozilla's exactly and aren't even written anyway :) 20:41:57 <Mook> you can write it down now! "whatever happens, happens", or some such :D 20:42:01 <flo> Mook: is "Always prevent the default action even if loading fails, to avoid replacing the current document with an external page." to your liking as a comment? 20:42:12 <Mook> sounds good! 20:42:23 <Mook> (it just needed to say something, anything) 20:42:44 <Mook> well, anything on-topic. "kittens are cute" isn't quite it... 20:42:50 <flo> Mook: I think the rules would be "do whatever makes most sense; if in doubt ask flo to double check it indeed makes sense." ;) 20:43:13 <Mook> sounds good. works even better if you like talking to yourself ;) 20:43:45 <flo> Mook: in my case it would be "if in doubt ask around and sleep on it" ;) 20:44:29 <flo> I'm replacing "fails" by "throws" 20:45:05 <flo> so it looks like this now: http://pastebin.instantbird.com/58947 20:45:07 <Mook> try { ... stuff ... } finally { event.preventDeafult(); } would also have been acceptable, but there's no need to add spammy lines, I guess 20:45:25 <Mook> A++++ would r again 20:49:33 --> EionRobb has joined #instantbird 20:54:22 <-- sabret00the has quit (Ping timeout) 20:56:07 <-- Optimizer has quit (Ping timeout) 21:08:11 --> sabret00the has joined #instantbird 21:10:13 <flo> that would have been a perfect use case for try/finally, yes :) 21:10:34 <flo> but it adds more lines for no real benefit (except slightly improved code readability) 21:12:10 <-- sonny has quit (Ping timeout) 21:26:47 <-- Kaishi has quit (Quit: Kaishi) 21:45:09 --> sonny has joined #instantbird 21:50:03 <-- meh has quit (Quit: I don't want to live on this planet anymore.) 21:53:09 <-- Mnyromyr has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [SeaMonkey 1.1.19/2010030105]) 21:57:18 --> igorko has joined #instantbird 21:58:17 <flo> the mac rc is being uploaded now. 21:59:04 <flo> there's 1.14GB to upload, it's sloooow :( 22:00:19 <flo> there's no way it can upload that from the connection here in less than the 7200s timeout. 22:04:44 <flo> iirc after the timeout builbot pretends it has killed the process, but the upload actually continues and finishes 22:05:00 <flo> but when the nightly will start (4am I think) buildbot will rm -rf the folder :-S. 22:05:09 <flo> maybe I should disable nightlies in buildbot until we have released. 22:05:50 <Mook> what do you upload with? rsync? 22:07:06 <flo> scp 22:07:36 <flo> and we never found a way to make scp print a line in the log after each file (that would prevent buildbot from timeouting) 22:10:59 <flo> is rsync a drop in replacement for scp with a line printed after each file? :) 22:11:41 <Mook> I don't think it's that drop-in (it needs different arguments), but I believe it can print progress 22:12:13 <Mook> also, scp -vv seems to spew more 22:12:21 <Mook> (rcvd adjust messages) 22:14:20 * Mook doesn't know how well rsync works from windows 22:15:27 <flo> scp prints a line for each file when running in a tty 22:15:37 <flo> but it seems to shutup when it's in a script 22:15:59 <Mook> yeah, I'm testing with scp | cat 22:16:31 <-- igorko has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 22:18:12 <flo> is scp -vv doing what we need? I thought we tried it already last year without success :-S 22:23:32 <Mook> I tested SCPing to localhost, your mileage may vary? :p 22:35:20 <-- sonny has quit (Ping timeout) 22:41:14 <flo> most files are very similar with just different localized strings inside. I wonder how much bandwidth it would save to make a solid archive before sending, and to unpack when the files arrive 22:48:31 <flo> Mook: do you know a compression format that would help for that? (.tar.gz doesn't help at all) 22:54:18 <flo> just looked at https://etherpad.mozilla.org/ib1-2-releasenotes-wip2 again. 22:54:26 <flo> the first thing listed is "passwords are encrypted". 22:54:41 <flo> sounds completely boring. Is there really no interesting feature we added for 1.2? :( 22:55:13 <flo> if there is, can we talk about something awesome in the first 2 or 3 points of the release notes, and only after that mention the minor improvements that nobody would notice if we hadn't listed them? 22:55:26 <Mook> sadly, I don't think you can list single-window interface in tbird, because I find that awesome ;) 22:55:49 <flo> as is, it feels like we did nothing in ten months, and it's a bit depressing :-/. 22:56:01 <Mook> the UI improvements such as the unread marker is probably more interesting, yeah 22:56:25 <flo> yeah, the unread marker, the awesome completion that just works, the difference between active/inactive participants in chat rooms. 22:56:36 <flo> all of these are much more interesting than encrypted passwords 22:56:57 <EionRobb> ft 22:57:15 <flo> "what's new? IRC is dramatically more usable thanks to a complete rewrite of the protocol plugin and lots of nice enhancements of the chat room UI" sounds like a better start to me. 22:57:26 <flo> but then some people may not care about IRC 22:57:52 <flo> EionRobb: come on, release notes are not a time for complaints about future possible features ;). 22:57:58 <EionRobb> :P 22:58:03 <flo> EionRobb: keep that for the roadmap discussions that are inevitably coming soon ;) 22:58:14 <EionRobb> that's for the comments section of said release notes, right? :P 22:58:38 <flo> EionRobb: no comments for the release notes. They are localizable and on the main website. 22:58:51 <flo> EionRobb: the release announcement on the blog can have comments of course, but it's not the same thing 22:59:25 <Mook> hey, it's still better than any songbird release blog post. "where's linux support?" :D 23:10:51 <flo> good night 23:11:00 <-- flo has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 23:45:09 <instant-buildbot> build #0 of macosx-release-1.2 is complete: Failure [failed shell_3] Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/macosx-release-1.2/builds/0 23:47:24 <-- vicnet has quit (Client exited) 23:47:31 --> vicnet has joined #instantbird 23:51:12 <-- vicnet has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2 -- http://www.instantbird.com)