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With the panel itself being a plugin, if I understand correctly 09:28:13 --> mmkmou has joined #instantbird 09:28:43 <sonny> the WM is mutter and it's written in C 09:29:24 <aleth> Ah, I don't know the correct terminology for the components then 09:29:57 <sonny> anyway we shouldn't talk about gnome-shell it sucks :) 09:31:14 <aleth> heh ;) it may improve over time... 09:31:55 <aleth> I was just surprised to find spidermonkey inside 09:32:12 <aleth> (as I thought it was all C) 09:53:00 <-- skeledrew has quit (Connection reset by peer) 09:53:01 --> skeledrew has joined #instantbird 09:57:31 <-- skeledrew has quit (Ping timeout) 09:57:35 --> skeledrew has joined #instantbird 10:12:34 <instantbot> New Core - XMPP bug 1591 filed by sztanpet@gmail.com. 10:12:36 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1591 nor, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, XMPP connection doesn't notice disconnection 10:17:26 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 10:17:26 * ChanServ sets mode +o clokep 10:17:50 <-- clokep has quit (Input/output error) 10:17:59 <-- Mic has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 10:18:46 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 10:18:46 * ChanServ sets mode +o clokep 10:27:11 <-- skeledrew has quit (Ping timeout) 10:29:15 --> skeledrew has joined #instantbird 10:37:47 <clokep> Has MSN ever supported group chats? :-S I didn't think Pidgin supported it either. 10:38:33 <aleth> I didn't know they existed on MSN :-/ 10:39:22 <aleth> Are they really MUCs? 10:40:34 <clokep> On MSN you can simply invite a third person to a conversation and voila you're talking to 3 people. 10:40:50 <clokep> (Which is actually really nice that you don't have to join a chat somewhere, you just have them enter your current chat.) 10:43:48 --> chrisccoulson has joined #instantbird 10:43:59 <aleth> Hmm, it would be nice to have that for XMPP 10:44:58 <aleth> Have IB auto-generate a room name 10:45:13 <aleth> and move the conversation across. 10:46:13 <clokep> Why just XMPP? :P 10:46:33 <clokep> (Btw what I described is essentially how GChat does chats too.) 10:46:49 <aleth> Well, any protocol that supports it... though I suspect the mechanics of it differ 10:47:04 <clokep> "supports it"? Supports...MUCs? 10:47:17 <aleth> yes 10:47:52 <aleth> I was thinking of MSN-XMPP, that's why I mentioned it 10:48:04 <clokep> Ah, right. 10:48:08 <clokep> You gonna add that? ;) 10:48:48 <aleth> I doubt it... not in the next few months :P 10:49:56 <clokep> But knowing oauth is a great skill to have. ;) 10:52:11 <aleth> Looks like your chkdsk has finished :) 10:53:03 <clokep> Yes, but I'm still having issues. 10:53:07 <-- skeledrew has quit (Ping timeout) 10:53:42 <aleth> Have you tried the drive manufacturer's tools? When I had issues with a drive that was what provided decent diagnostics 10:54:59 --> skeledrew has joined #instantbird 10:55:22 <clokep> I'm probably just going to send it to Lenovo, this is why I have a warranty. ;) 10:55:54 <clokep> Anyway, time to go! :) 10:55:54 <aleth> might be a lot less hassle ;) 10:55:58 <-- clokep has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 10:57:33 <-- skeledrew has quit (Ping timeout) 11:01:21 --> skeledrew has joined #instantbird 11:27:22 <-- skeledrew has quit (Connection reset by peer) 11:27:23 --> skeledrew has joined #instantbird 11:31:35 <-- EionRobb has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 11:31:58 --> EionRobb has joined #instantbird 11:33:44 <-- EionRobb has quit (Ping timeout) 11:34:15 <-- FireFly_TB has quit (Quit: FireFly_TB) 11:37:27 --> FireFly_TB has joined #instantbird 11:40:58 --> clokep_work has joined #instantbird 11:40:58 * ChanServ sets mode +o clokep_work 11:53:50 <instantbot> New Core - General bug 1592 filed by filimonov.mikhail@gmail.com. 11:53:52 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1592 nor, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, glib version requirements bad 11:57:28 <-- skeledrew has quit (Ping timeout) 11:57:29 --> skeledrew has joined #instantbird 12:03:10 <clokep_work> Anyone actually know the minimum version of glib supported by libpurple? 12:07:30 <instantbot> New Websites - www.instantbird.com bug 1593 filed by aletheia2@fastmail.fm. 12:07:33 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1593 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Add information on 64-bit Linux to FAQ 12:14:10 <aleth> clokep_work: All I could find was this http://pidgin.im/pipermail/support/2011-June/010258.html 12:15:07 <clokep_work> Interesting. 12:16:38 <aleth> This even seems to claim >=2.30 required http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/libpurple0 12:16:52 <aleth> But of course that may just be the packager 12:17:49 <clokep_work> That's the packager, I think. 12:18:03 <clokep_work> We're definitely still compiling with 2.16.1 on Windows. :) 12:18:18 <aleth> That should do it then ;) 12:21:19 <clokep_work> Although I vaguely feel like MXit wants a newer version of glib...but we don't compile that. ;) 12:22:32 <clokep_work> FeuerFliege: I looked at your patch last night. 12:22:47 <clokep_work> I think it looks pretty good. I didn't have a chance to try it yet though. :) 12:23:20 <-- skeledrew has quit (Ping timeout) 12:23:23 --> skeledrew has joined #instantbird 12:23:27 * clokep_work is testing Mic's session restore extension. 12:25:46 --> Lalae has joined #instantbird 12:36:43 <-- Lalae has left #instantbird () 12:41:00 <clokep_work> So the MSN code seems to say things about chats...but doesn't have a join chat function. :-S 12:41:37 --> jb has joined #instantbird 12:41:52 <aleth> Possibly because there are no dedicated rooms? 12:42:31 <clokep_work> Perhaps. It might be that if someone else makes it you can join, but you can't make one? 12:42:35 * clokep_work wonders if flo knows. :-D 12:43:15 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 12:43:15 * ChanServ sets mode +h Mic 12:49:36 <Mic> clokep_work: don't test it too seriously, this is definitely early work and a lot of things need changes. 12:51:21 <clokep_work> Mic: Well I only join like 4 channels at work, so I figured it's a good place to test it. :) 12:57:13 <flo> clokep_work: iirc MSN conversations (at the protocol level) are all MUCs, so it's always possible to add someone 12:57:52 <flo> libpurple doesn't (or used to not) support changing an IM conv to a MUC conv, so when someone is added to an MSN group chat, it opened a new MUC conversation titled "MSN chat" 12:58:50 <flo> and I don't know if Pidgin/libpurple supports inviting someone, but if it does it's with a menu item added by the protocol plugin to the conversation, or something similarly poor UX-wise. 12:59:43 <clokep_work> Ah, OK. 12:59:53 <clokep_work> So that post on the mailing list is pretty much "We probably don't support this."? 13:02:05 <FeuerFliege> clokep_work: âpretty goodâ sounds great to me ^^ 13:02:36 <clokep_work> FeuerFliege: Yes, I just need to test, I think. 13:05:32 <-- jb has quit (Quit: jb) 13:06:05 --> jb has joined #instantbird 13:18:05 --> gerard-majax has joined #instantbird 13:20:14 <-- jb has quit (Quit: jb) 13:20:48 --> jb has joined #instantbird 13:23:29 <-- skeledrew has quit (Ping timeout) 13:28:40 --> skeledrew has joined #instantbird 13:30:05 * flo frowns at bug 1592 13:30:09 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1592 nor, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, glib version requirements bad 13:30:49 <flo> clokep_work: yes, we don't support the feature he's requesting 13:31:16 <flo> we could probably support it, if someone had enough interest in it to define a good UI for it, and write the code 13:36:55 <-- Mic has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 13:37:44 <-- aleth has quit (Quit: Au revoir) 13:45:32 <clokep_work> flo: OK. :) 13:45:43 <clokep_work> Thanks for the info, I'll reply at some point (unless someone else wnats to?) 13:52:16 <-- flo has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 13:53:16 --> flo has joined #instantbird 13:53:16 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo flo 13:56:01 <-- micahg has quit (Quit: Ex-Chat) 13:58:13 <-- FireFly_TB has quit (Quit: FireFly_TB) 13:58:40 --> FireFly_TB has joined #instantbird 14:07:57 <-- mmkmou has quit (Ping timeout) 14:08:14 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 14:08:14 * ChanServ sets mode +h aleth 14:10:58 --> micahg has joined #instantbird 14:18:51 --> igorko has joined #instantbird 14:38:20 <-- gerard-majax has quit (Ping timeout) 14:54:35 --> gerard-majax has joined #instantbird 14:54:54 <-- FireFly_TB has quit (Input/output error) 14:54:57 --> wnayes has joined #instantbird 14:55:22 --> Optimizer has joined #instantbird 14:58:48 <-- skeledrew has quit (Ping timeout) 14:58:48 --> skeledrew has joined #instantbird 14:59:04 <-- douglaswth has quit (Ping timeout) 14:59:11 --> douglaswth has joined #instantbird 15:01:22 <-- gerard-majax has quit (Ping timeout) 15:03:59 --> mmkmou has joined #instantbird 15:04:43 --> gerard-majax has joined #instantbird 15:06:35 <-- gerard-majax has quit (Ping timeout) 15:08:57 <-- meh has quit (Ping timeout) 15:10:30 --> jb1 has joined #instantbird 15:11:11 <-- jb has quit (Ping timeout) 15:21:46 --> qheaden has joined #instantbird 15:21:51 --> gerard-majax has joined #instantbird 15:22:34 --> meh has joined #instantbird 15:23:48 <qheaden> Does Instantbird have the ability to start with the operating system in Windows? 15:24:59 <clokep_work> qheaden: Any program does, just copy the shortcut to "Startup" in the Start Menu. 15:26:06 <qheaden> Hmm okay. I forgot about that. 15:31:29 <qheaden> So Instantbird doesn't have that functionality built into it? 15:31:37 <qheaden> I might think about adding it when I have some free time. 15:32:35 <clokep_work> qheaden: No, it doesn't there's a bug open about it though. 15:32:40 <clokep_work> We'd like to have it added in though. :) 15:32:46 <qheaden> Where is the bug for it? 15:33:11 <clokep_work> In bugzilla. ;) 15:33:13 <clokep_work> Let me search. 15:33:31 <qheaden> Oh I know it is in Bugzilla. Not sure which bug number though. :) 15:34:07 <clokep_work> I don't know off the top of my head! That's why they have searching. :P bug 376 15:34:12 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=376 enh, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Start with OS / on sign-on 15:35:19 <qheaden> Did you guys recently setup your own bugzilla? 15:35:59 <qheaden> Ha ha. I guess not. The bug was reported in 2010. :) 15:36:21 <clokep_work> qheaden: No, we've had one forever. Why? 15:36:29 <clokep_work> (It's in the topic too I think?) 15:37:07 <qheaden> It seems like the bug I was writing a proposal for with Google Summer of Code was on Mozilla's bugzilla. Not sure though. 15:37:26 <clokep_work> Which proposal was this? Sorry, I forget. :-D 15:38:00 <clokep_work> There's some bugs for chat in there too, we'll hopefully merge the bugzillas sometime this quarter. 15:38:38 <qheaden> It was a proposal for adding a new protocol console. 15:39:06 * qheaden is setting up an Instantbird bugzilla account. 15:39:10 <clokep_work> Yeah, if that exists it's in our bugzilla. :) 15:40:02 <qheaden> I would like to assign myself to that bug, but I am busy with two other Firefox ones right now. 15:40:10 <qheaden> So i guess I'll just wait. 15:40:30 <clokep_work> Alright. :) Feel free to CC yourself or whatever though. 15:40:31 <-- Kaishi has quit (Input/output error) 15:40:36 <-- gerard-majax has quit (Ping timeout) 15:40:37 <qheaden> Okay. 15:41:18 <qheaden> I could be horribly wrong, but it doesn't seem too hard to add support on Windows. 15:41:22 <qheaden> Not sure about linux and mac though. 15:42:15 <clokep_work> Yes, sounds right. 15:42:53 <qheaden> Instead of adding a shortcut though, I think the de-facto way of adding startup functionality on Windows is through the registry. 15:43:06 <clokep_work> Yes, that's a better way to do it. 15:43:19 <clokep_work> The code flo linked to probably has cross platform-ness to it. 15:43:54 <qheaden> Okay. 15:44:23 <qheaden> If I were to work on this bug, I would only be able to work on the Windows and Linux versions. I don't have access to a Mac. 15:45:05 <clokep_work> That's fine. 15:47:22 --> Mic|web has joined #instantbird 15:49:27 <clokep_work> There's probably a Thunderbird bug for this too... 15:52:30 <flo> I don't think it's useful to add an option for that on Mac. It's really trivially accessible by default. There's a "start when opening the session" item in the dock context menu of all applications 15:53:14 <flo> I wouldn't be against adding it though; I just feel like it doesn't add much value on Mac 15:54:54 <Mic|web> Starting automatically .. /me thinks of "win.ini" and "run=". Ah, maybe I'm too old ;) 15:57:37 <aleth> KDE just automatically restores the desktop on restart 15:58:29 <aleth> Though that's probably configurable somewhere... 16:03:32 <-- Mic|web has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 16:08:24 <-- jb1 has quit (Input/output error) 16:08:27 --> jb has joined #instantbird 16:11:05 <-- Optimizer has quit (Ping timeout) 16:15:23 --> Lalae has joined #instantbird 16:15:39 <-- Lalae has left #instantbird () 16:16:19 <qheaden> So on Windows, if I am able to successfully build Mozilla Firefox, that means I have everything I need to build Instantbird dependency-wise? 16:17:29 <clokep_work> Yes. 16:17:40 <clokep_work> The other dependencies we use are part of our build system. 16:17:47 <clokep_work> (libxml, glib, libpurple) 16:17:58 <qheaden> Isn't that convenient. :) 16:18:25 <clokep_work> Yes. ;) 16:18:39 <clokep_work> You'll need to add a flag to disable-bonjour unless you happen to have the bonjour SDK installed. :) 16:19:06 <qheaden> No I don't have it installed. I'll just add a flag to disable it. 16:19:24 <qheaden> Would that disable any significant parts of Instantbird? 16:20:33 <clokep_work> Just the Bonjour protocol. 16:20:35 <clokep_work> Oh wait. 16:20:38 <clokep_work> I lied. We distribute that on Windows. 16:20:40 <clokep_work> Doh. 16:20:46 <clokep_work> So ignore everything I juts said. :-D 16:20:50 <qheaden> :P 16:21:13 <qheaden> On yeah, one more thing. Can you build it with pymake? I don't see pymake in the source tree. 16:22:34 <clokep_work> pymake is in the Mozilla source tree. 16:22:39 <clokep_work> Why would we have it? 16:22:43 <clokep_work> You should be able to yes. 16:22:49 <clokep_work> I forget whether my build at home uses it or not... 16:23:24 <qheaden> I just realized that the mozilla source is checked out for Instantbird to build. :P 16:24:41 <clokep_work> Yes. Works the same way as Thunderbird. 16:24:47 <clokep_work> Onec you call client.py checkout it pulls it. 16:26:33 * clokep_work is off to eat some BBQ. 16:31:47 --> Optimizer has joined #instantbird 16:53:31 <qheaden> Does Instantbird have a regular release schedule? If so, where is the schedule located? 16:55:26 <aleth> We are string frozen, the 1.2 release should be in the next week or two. 16:55:40 <aleth> No regular schedule at the moment, though it has been discussed. 16:57:15 <qheaden> Okay. 17:08:20 <flo> qheaden: a regular schedule would require people committed to making these releases happen. We don't have these people. 17:09:05 <qheaden> Yeah, I guess you are right about that. 17:10:46 <-- qheaden has left #instantbird () 17:10:59 --> qheaden has joined #instantbird 17:11:32 <-- qheaden has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.1) 17:11:45 --> qheaden has joined #instantbird 17:12:06 <-- meh has quit (Ping timeout) 17:20:37 <-- aleth has quit (Quit: Au revoir) 17:31:38 --> gerard-majax has joined #instantbird 17:33:28 <-- gerard-majax has quit (Ping timeout) 17:45:52 --> Tomek has joined #instantbird 17:47:50 <-- jb has quit (Quit: jb) 17:48:00 --> FireFly_TB has joined #instantbird 17:58:36 <qheaden> What is the mozconfig flag to disable bonjour? 17:58:45 <qheaden> For some reason, I'm having compilation issues with it. 17:59:08 <clokep_work> qheaden: Could you let us know what the compilation issue is too? 17:59:14 <clokep_work> It's --disable-bonjour ;) 17:59:38 <qheaden> --disable-bonjour. I should have figured that one out. :P 18:00:14 <qheaden> I'm having a hard time reading through all the jibberish in the prompt. 18:00:56 <clokep_work> C&P it all into pastebin.instantbird.org? 18:01:03 <qheaden> It seems as though the linker is throwing a fatal error because it cannot open protocols/bonjour/bonjour.lib. My guess as to why it cannot open it is because bonjour.lib probably isn't linking correctly. 18:01:51 <clokep_work> Can you try something for me? 18:02:12 <qheaden> Here is the output: http://pastebin.instantbird.com/50886 18:02:20 <clokep_work> Do pymake <objdir>/purple/libpurple/protocols/bonjour and then try linking again (pymake <objdir> tier_app should do it) 18:02:26 <qheaden> The top is cut off a bit because the console window won't scroll all the way up. 18:02:32 <qheaden> Okay, let me try it. 18:02:52 <clokep_work> I saw something similar once and was unable to reproduce... 18:04:32 <qheaden> Hmm, it seems that the obj-dir was placed in the root C drive. The instantbird folder is also in the C root, but I thought the obj-dir was going to stay in the folder. 18:04:35 <qheaden> Permission issues maybe? 18:06:07 <clokep_work> It depends how you set up your mozconfig. 18:06:32 <qheaden> I'm running pymake tier_app now. 18:06:45 <qheaden> The compilation of the bonjour directory was successful. 18:06:54 <qheaden> Lets see if the link will work. 18:08:00 <qheaden> Everything worked this time. 18:08:11 <-- igorko has quit (Ping timeout) 18:08:29 <-- Optimizer has quit (Ping timeout) 18:08:36 <clokep_work> Yeah. :-/ So that's strange and Idk why it happened. Our build machines haven't had that issue either. flo any ideas? 18:09:27 --> Optimizer has joined #instantbird 18:11:52 --> igorko has joined #instantbird 18:13:02 <clokep_work> Glad it worked for you though. :) 18:19:31 <qheaden> Yeah. Thanks for the help. 18:20:56 <clokep_work> Of course! :) 18:21:13 <qheaden> Do you guys have a public view of the Instantbird build servers? 18:21:23 <qheaden> Like any status webpages? 18:21:44 <clokep_work> qheaden: http://buildbot.instantbird.org/waterfall 18:21:59 <qheaden> Great! I love buildbot. :) 18:23:27 <clokep_work> I don't think Even does. ;) 18:23:40 <qheaden> :P 18:24:02 <qheaden> IMO, Mozilla's push log can get a little confusing at times. 18:24:03 <clokep_work> (Apparently setting it up isn't fun.) 18:24:22 <qheaden> No. It is a pain to setup. I can tell you that. :) 18:25:01 --> DGMurdockIII has joined #instantbird 18:25:30 <-- igorko has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 18:26:53 <-- FireFly_TB has quit (Ping timeout) 18:26:53 <-- FeuerFliege has quit (Ping timeout) 18:31:29 <qheaden> Once I get Instantbird built, I'll probably assign myself to that startup with OS bug. 18:32:59 <-- clokep_work has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 18:46:07 <-- mmkmou has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 18:49:32 --> skeledrew1 has joined #instantbird 18:49:52 <-- skeledrew has quit (Connection reset by peer) 18:50:21 --> Mnyromyr has joined #instantbird 18:53:37 <-- DGMurdockIII has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88.2 [Firefox 13.0.1/20120614114901]) 18:58:30 --> myk has joined #instantbird 18:58:45 <-- qheaden has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.1) 18:59:10 --> qheaden has joined #instantbird 19:00:52 --> DGMurdockIII has joined #instantbird 19:01:27 <DGMurdockIII> http://pastebin.instantbird.com/50895 19:02:24 <DGMurdockIII> dose that mean anything to you guy 19:04:10 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 19:04:10 * ChanServ sets mode +h aleth 19:10:56 <aleth> DGMurdockIII: it looks like AOL won't let you login because it wants information from you 19:11:11 <DGMurdockIII> ok 19:11:40 <aleth> This guy seems to have had the same problem http://developer.pidgin.im/ticket/14308 19:11:52 <aleth> You can see what he did in the comments 19:12:55 <DGMurdockIII> yeah i tryed the oppset of what they said 19:13:29 <DGMurdockIII> it was working with out having use client login checked 19:13:36 <aleth> Try resetting the password 19:14:00 <DGMurdockIII> like going aol and restting my password 19:14:08 <aleth> Yes, from all I can see it is an AOL-side issue. 19:14:43 <DGMurdockIII> what im getting now is error: unknown reason 19:14:52 <DGMurdockIII> i would like to know why it can connect 19:14:56 <aleth> On their website? 19:15:07 <DGMurdockIII> on instantbird 19:15:13 <aleth> I don't think it's an Instantbird or libpurple problem 19:15:23 <DGMurdockIII> when i hit connect on aim that the error it shows 19:15:47 <DGMurdockIII> if it not 19:16:21 <-- qheaden has quit (Ping timeout) 19:16:21 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 19:16:21 * ChanServ sets mode +o clokep 19:16:29 <DGMurdockIII> instantbird or libpurple problem then there need to be some updates done so it will better tell you what the actally pruble is 19:16:51 <aleth> Try logging onto the AIM website and resetting the password, hopefully that will fix it 19:17:01 <-- sonny has quit (Ping timeout) 19:17:30 <aleth> You can see all we get from AOL is "3019: Account not allowed" 19:17:35 <aleth> That's not very specific :P 19:18:10 <-- DGMurdockIII has quit (Ping timeout) 19:19:41 --> igorko has joined #instantbird 19:26:48 --> DGMurdockIII has joined #instantbird 19:27:17 --> gerard-majax has joined #instantbird 19:28:48 <aleth> DGMurdockIII: Apparently this is the password reset link https://account.login.aol.com/_cqr/opr/opr.psp?null 19:28:58 <DGMurdockIII> k 19:29:01 <-- DGMurdockIII has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88.2 [Firefox 13.0.1/20120614114901]) 19:37:10 <flo> clokep: if Andrew doesn't dislike my patch in bug 740499, I'll also need you to r or rs it ;) 19:38:07 <clokep> flo: And you think I'll just give it at the snap of your fingers?! :P 19:38:33 <flo> hmm... ? 19:38:47 <clokep> I think those changes are OK though. :) 19:39:02 <clokep> I'll be back in a bit, feel free to ping me if you get an r+ from him! 19:39:32 <flo> I'm technically the module owner, so I think I can request a review from whoever I want; so I could pretend asuth's review is good enough if I wanted to avoid requesting it from you :-P 19:40:22 <flo> btw, I dislike that change, because it goes in the way of letting us separate the reading and writing parts of logger.js that we discussed a few weeks ago 19:40:44 <flo> but creating a new service for just that method would be overkill so I didn't do it :-| 19:41:20 <flo> I also dislike the changes in the other file (index_im.js) as it's clearly suboptimal for various reasons :( 19:41:29 --> sonny has joined #instantbird 19:41:56 --> meh has joined #instantbird 19:43:49 <-- meh has quit (Ping timeout) 19:46:54 --> meh has joined #instantbird 19:47:04 <flo> my touchpad doesn't work correctly, I'll try rebooting to see if it helps. 19:47:08 <flo> brb 19:47:10 <-- flo has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 19:48:20 <instantbot> aletheia2@fastmail.fm requested review from clokep@gmail.com for attachment 1739 on bug 465. 19:48:23 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=465 nor, --, ---, aletheia2, ASSI, Unread status doesn't disappear when the tabbar-tab (instead of the content of the tab) had the focu 19:52:02 <-- gerard-majax has quit (Ping timeout) 19:55:52 <clokep> aleth: I'm probably not the best person to review that patch, but I'll take a look.... 19:55:58 <-- Tomek has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.1) 19:56:15 <aleth> It fits with all the other tabbar papercut patches... 19:56:29 <-- sonny has quit (Ping timeout) 19:56:57 <aleth> but I'm sure flo will take a look before he checks anything in anyway ;) 19:57:18 --> flo has joined #instantbird 19:57:19 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo flo 19:57:20 <-- flo has quit (Input/output error) 19:57:51 <aleth> I think bug 1547 is the one that might be a little trickier to review 19:57:54 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1547 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Check for open conversations when adding a buddy 19:59:19 --> flo has joined #instantbird 19:59:19 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo flo 19:59:38 <flo> a macbook is way more usable with a working touchpad :) 19:59:55 <aleth> :) 20:01:12 --> jb has joined #instantbird 20:03:08 <-- jb has quit (Quit: jb) 20:03:29 --> sonny has joined #instantbird 20:03:36 --> jb has joined #instantbird 20:03:58 <flo> fwiw, I've looked at that patch quickly, and I don't see anything obviously wrog 20:04:00 <flo> *wrong 20:06:09 <flo> aleth: btw, have you seen http://lxr.instantbird.org/instantbird/source/instantbird/content/conversation.xml#917 ? 20:07:44 <flo> alright, r=me if you want/need it 20:07:48 <aleth> No, I missed that! Does that cover the special 'windows' type keys? 20:08:06 <flo> aleth: no. I was just wondering if we wanted to have things in sync 20:08:29 <flo> 400ms is completely arbitrary, right? 20:08:57 <flo> is it the first value you tried, or have you tried several values and tweaked it until you were satisfied? 20:09:53 <aleth> It's between "200ms seemed a bit too quick for people who repeat-keypress more slowly than me" and "500ms seems to be a bit too noticeable already" 20:10:15 --> FeuerFliege has joined #instantbird 20:10:17 <aleth> Sure, I tried it, but the reviewer should see whether they agree ;) 20:12:35 <clokep> FeuerFliege: So I'm testing your patch and it seems to write the log correctly, but the menu item to view logs is disabled still? 20:13:01 <flo> aleth: I think that could be in a comment in the bug ;) "It's between "200ms seemed a bit too quick for people who repeat-keypress more slowly than me" and "500ms seems to be a bit too noticeable already"" 20:13:19 <flo> "the reviewer should see whether they agree ;)" aren't nightly testers here for that? ;) 20:13:39 <flo> I don't think anybody will notice anyway 20:13:49 <flo> or we would have had more complaints about it being broken for probably years 20:13:54 <aleth> True :) I don't think anyone runs into that bug very often 20:14:05 <aleth> If I hadn't been fixing related things I wouldn't have bothered 20:14:12 <flo> I'm sure the old (pre 0.2) tabs had a timer for that 20:14:33 <flo> it's probably been broken since I changed the tabs, and that was in the summer of 2009, so 3 years ago... 20:16:12 <aleth> quite some time then ;) 20:17:18 <-- myk has quit (Ping timeout) 20:18:22 <-- FeuerFliege has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 20:21:05 <-- skeledrew1 has quit (Ping timeout) 20:21:23 --> skeledrew has joined #instantbird 20:22:50 <instantbot> aletheia2@fastmail.fm cancelled review?(clokep@gmail.com) for attachment 1739 on bug 465. 20:22:51 <instantbot> aletheia2@fastmail.fm requested review from florian@instantbird .org for attachment 1740 on bug 465. 20:22:53 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=465 nor, --, ---, aletheia2, ASSI, Unread status doesn't disappear when the tabbar-tab (instead of the content of the tab) had the focu 20:29:57 --> skeledrew1 has joined #instantbird 20:30:10 <-- skeledrew has quit (Ping timeout) 20:33:57 --> myk has joined #instantbird 20:38:14 <clokep> flo: Does that count as an "r-" from Andrew? 20:45:07 <flo> clokep: yeah... :-/ 20:45:21 <-- Optimizer has quit (Ping timeout) 20:46:39 <-- sonny has quit (Ping timeout) 20:47:18 <flo> wait, maybe not 20:47:21 * flo is confused 20:51:37 <flo> ohoh :) "WHOIS information for asuth: [...]Connected from: Instantbir@moz-BBE3ABD.mv.mozilla.com" 20:54:24 --> sonny has joined #instantbird 20:56:08 <-- sonny has quit (Ping timeout) 21:03:37 <-- jb has quit (Ping timeout) 21:59:06 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 21:59:07 * ChanServ sets mode +h Mic 22:02:08 <-- igorko has quit (Client exited) 22:05:18 <Mic> :o 22:05:31 <Mic> I can haz user media? :) 22:06:00 <clokep> What is "user media" anyway? 22:06:12 <Mic> http://mozillamediagoddess.org/2012/07/13/navigator-mozgetusermedia-has-just-landed-in-firefox-desktop-nightly-builds/ 22:08:00 <clokep> Interesting. 22:09:34 <flo> clokep: so I think that patch will land (after I updated it a bit to address 2 nits) 22:10:02 <clokep> flo: OK. :) 22:10:52 <aleth> clokep: http://blog.gerv.net/2012/07/google-groups-fail/ 22:12:02 <flo> clokep: I've been pondering for an hour whether it's too horrible to land, or horrible but acceptable ; 22:12:03 <flo> ) 22:12:08 <clokep> aleth: I saw. 22:12:48 <aleth> flo: sleep on it? ;) 22:14:10 <-- Mnyromyr has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [SeaMonkey 1.1.19/2010030105]) 22:14:54 <flo> clokep: I feel a bit bad for whoever will have the stupid idea for track the #fail keyword on twitter with Tb ;) 22:15:14 <flo> aleth: yeah, my plan is to address the nits, attach a new patch, and then sleep on it and land it tomorrow 22:15:46 <Mic> Cool, getUserMedia() it works :) 22:16:45 <Mic> -it 22:16:53 <clokep> flo: Special case that? :P 22:17:36 <flo> clokep: "that" = morons? 22:17:55 <clokep> :) 22:18:00 * flo wonders if Mic is in the process of adding webcam support for JS-XMPP 22:18:22 * clokep thought it might be IRC. :P 22:18:33 <Mic> Is there a spec for video-over-irc? 22:18:41 <clokep> Probably. 22:18:59 <flo> Mic: clokep may be editing one right now just for you ;) 22:19:01 <aleth> Probably there are 5, 3 of which are on servers that 404 22:19:02 <Mic> IF not you can still create one? ;) 22:19:23 <clokep> aleth: I always look at the docs locally, sorry for the 404s. :) 22:20:39 <Mic> Good point! wnayes, do you download the documentation you use for your importers? 22:20:53 <aleth> A smart move... 22:22:29 --> Kaishi has joined #instantbird 22:22:57 --> skeledrew has joined #instantbird 22:22:59 <-- skeledrew1 has quit (Connection reset by peer) 22:23:04 <Mic> That's where I saw it and wondered if the docs will still be there when someone wants to read them next time ;) 22:23:06 <Mic> http://hg.instantbird.org/users/wnayes/rev/48fba1e694a0#l1.7 22:23:34 <aleth> Should there be http://hg.instantbird.org/specs ? 22:23:42 <clokep> I've been wondering if I can upload them in a docs folder actually. 22:23:52 <clokep> aleth: I'd prefer them with the code (I think Mozilla does that...) 22:24:31 <clokep> (chat/protocols/irc/doc) 22:24:37 <clokep> But I don't know the "license" of all the documents. :-/ 22:24:39 <aleth> That would be better, yes 22:25:23 <flo> we would need to know the licences, yes 22:25:28 <flo> aren't RFC in the public domain? 22:27:00 <clokep> RFC are, yes. 22:27:44 <clokep> Well there's at least a DCC VOICE command. 22:27:49 <clokep> And I think some implications of a DCC VIDEO one... 22:28:28 <-- Mic has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 22:28:48 <aleth> Turns out KVIrc supports DCC Video chat 22:29:38 * aleth surprise 22:29:56 <clokep> aleth: Do you have a document on their site? I Just found a news article about it. 22:30:06 <clokep> (Their site kind of sucks. :-D) 22:31:52 <aleth> It does. 22:32:16 <aleth> The best I have found so far is the changelog https://svn.kvirc.de/kvirc/browser/trunk/kvirc/ChangeLog 22:32:47 <-- wnayes has quit (Ping timeout) 22:32:52 <clokep> With an invalid SSL cert? :P 22:32:58 <aleth> Indeed :P 22:33:32 <clokep> I'll probably just download the source... 22:33:40 <aleth> It doesn't seem to be a feature they advertise much... 22:33:53 <aleth> So I am sceptical as to how well it works ;) 22:34:24 <clokep> It supports avatars too apparently. 22:35:44 <clokep> Does it support typing notifications? :P 22:35:59 --> wnayes has joined #instantbird 22:36:57 <clokep> Anyone I need to go. Time to get dinner w/ some friends. 22:37:14 <clokep> flo: If you want me to look over that at some point let me know, but it seems OK (non-ideal, but OK) to me right now. 22:37:50 <flo> clokep: I'll put an r? flag for you when once I upload a new version 22:38:12 <flo> I don't need the review until I wake up (likely late) tomorrow morning, so you have 10+ hours ahead to flip the flag ;) 22:38:27 <clokep> OK. :) 22:38:30 <clokep> Goodnight! 22:38:44 <flo> I meant to flip the flag *without me noticing any delay* 22:39:00 <flo> clokep: thanks enjoy dinner with your friends :) 22:40:10 <-- clokep has quit (Ping timeout) 22:52:44 --> Lalae has joined #instantbird 22:55:45 <-- Lalae has left #instantbird () 22:57:54 <-- skeledrew has quit (Connection reset by peer) 22:57:55 --> skeledrew has joined #instantbird 23:10:19 --> mmkmou has joined #instantbird 23:26:06 <-- wnayes has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 23:26:43 --> wnayes has joined #instantbird 23:29:16 <wnayes> Mic: I could download some of the importer docs. I try to comment a lot about the process as well. 23:33:39 --> EionRobb has joined #instantbird 23:45:04 <-- aleth has quit (Quit: Au revoir) 23:50:47 <-- mmkmou has quit (Ping timeout) 23:54:13 --> mmkmou has joined #instantbird 23:57:12 <-- wnayes has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 23:57:39 <-- skeledrew has quit (Connection reset by peer) 23:57:41 --> skeledrew has joined #instantbird