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00:17:31 --> FireFly_TB has joined #instantbird 00:19:16 <-- FireFly_TB has quit (Ping timeout) 01:01:16 <-- Mook_as has quit (Quit: Mook_as) 01:47:48 --> wesj1 has joined #instantbird 01:48:50 <-- myk has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 02:08:44 <-- wesj1 has quit (Quit: wesj1) 02:19:52 --> wesj1 has joined #instantbird 02:22:22 <-- wesj1 has quit (Quit: wesj1) 02:29:06 --> wesj1 has joined #instantbird 02:55:21 --> Mook has joined #instantbird 03:20:21 <-- wesj1 has quit (Quit: wesj1) 03:41:53 <DGMurdockIII> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTEzNDc 03:44:20 <Mook> ... it might help to actually include context 03:48:23 <DGMurdockIII> not my problem link dosent include hedline 03:49:07 <DGMurdockIII> next think you will want me toy type out the whole artical 03:49:21 <DGMurdockIII> Mozilla To Shaft Thunderbird Next Week 03:49:29 <DGMurdockIII> there no you click on link 03:49:32 <Mook> that's, umm, _exactly_ why context is helpful - if I didn't recognize the domain, for all I know it could be going to goatse or lemon party. 03:49:33 <DGMurdockIII> now* 03:50:36 <DGMurdockIII> how do you know no Phoronix there the #1 plase for linux news 03:50:39 <DGMurdockIII> Phoronix is a technology website that offers product reviews, Linux distribution screenshots, interviews, and news while maintaining a pure Linux orientation. 03:52:08 <DGMurdockIII> http://www.phoronix-media.com/ 03:55:47 <DGMurdockIII> Mook: you understand that people who use linux i would hope now about this site that why i thougt nothing was neede 03:56:01 <DGMurdockIII> needed* 04:00:39 * Mook was under the impression Phoronix was the go-to place for bad benchmarks and wild spectulation 04:00:59 <DGMurdockIII> no 04:01:08 <DGMurdockIII> lot more than that 04:34:36 --> wesj1 has joined #instantbird 04:42:48 <-- Tomek has quit (Ping timeout) 04:43:53 --> Tomek has joined #instantbird 04:46:55 --> Optimizer has joined #instantbird 05:08:42 <-- Optimizer has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 05:11:42 --> Optimizer has joined #instantbird 05:17:00 <-- Mook has quit (Quit: Mook) 05:40:03 <-- Optimizer has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 06:04:20 --> gerard-majax has joined #instantbird 06:04:31 <-- Kaishi has quit (Ping timeout) 06:06:22 <-- gerard-majax has quit (Ping timeout) 06:07:09 <instant-buildbot> build #542 of macosx-nightly-default is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/macosx-nightly-default/builds/542 06:07:58 --> Kaishi has joined #instantbird 06:21:31 --> gerard-majax has joined #instantbird 06:25:55 <-- gerard-majax has quit (Ping timeout) 06:32:40 --> gerard-majax has joined #instantbird 06:34:41 <-- gerard-majax has quit (Ping timeout) 06:50:40 --> gerard-majax has joined #instantbird 06:51:32 <-- Tomek has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.1) 06:53:32 <-- gerard-majax has quit (Ping timeout) 07:22:56 <-- wesj1 has quit (Quit: wesj1) 07:31:29 --> FeuerFliege has joined #instantbird 07:31:40 <FeuerFliege> http://techcrunch.com/2012/07/06/so-thats-it-for-thunderbird/ 08:07:28 --> Lalae has joined #instantbird 08:19:53 <-- Lalae has left #instantbird () 08:26:38 <-- FeuerFliege has quit (Ping timeout) 08:29:58 --> meh has joined #instantbird 08:50:03 --> FeuerFliege has joined #instantbird 09:06:57 <-- FeuerFliege has quit (Ping timeout) 09:07:14 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 09:07:14 * ChanServ sets mode +h aleth 09:28:16 <-- chrisccoulson has quit (Ping timeout) 09:28:33 --> chrisccoulson has joined #instantbird 09:38:40 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 09:38:40 * ChanServ sets mode +h Mic 09:40:26 <-- aleth has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 10:36:54 --> FeuerFliege has joined #instantbird 10:38:38 <-- FeuerFliege has quit (Ping timeout) 10:54:27 --> igorko has joined #instantbird 11:39:52 <-- meh has quit (Ping timeout) 11:46:12 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 11:46:12 * ChanServ sets mode +h aleth 11:54:50 --> meh has joined #instantbird 11:55:38 <Mic> Hi aleth 11:55:52 <Mic> The news about Thunderbird doesn't sound good :( 11:56:35 <aleth> Yeah... I guess flo will know more about what it actually implies in practice 11:56:51 <aleth> At least I hope it doesn't catch him unawares... 11:58:23 <-- aleth has quit (Input/output error) 11:58:51 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 11:58:51 * ChanServ sets mode +h aleth 11:59:49 <Mic> I'm glad we're not a Mozilla project ... I rather like my desktop IM client ;) 12:00:28 <aleth> :) 12:00:44 <aleth> Yes, I can't say I was surprised when they saw the announcement. 12:00:49 <aleth> s/they/I 12:01:05 <aleth> I thought it was implicit in what they have been doing anyway 12:02:03 <Mic> I always thought that Thunderbird is lacking support and would need more developers/time/love to make it into a more decent client 12:02:37 <aleth> If there were more devs wanting to work on it there would probably be a different outcome 12:02:47 <aleth> That's my uninformed guess 12:03:04 <Mic> On the other hand, wouldn't it be teh awesomez if everyone could write their own IM client using teh brand new Firefox IM WebAPIz? ;) 12:03:21 <Mic> OK, I must not troll. ;) 12:03:47 <aleth> It shouldn't be either/or really. 12:04:22 <Mic> It seems to be their stance that the web is the platform/future/... 12:05:59 <aleth> For the mobile space, they are not wrong 12:06:21 <aleth> On the desktop, well, it's a matter of opinion... ;) 12:08:14 <Mic> I admit that it's necessary on mobile (and that mainly because some companies think they know what's best for you and lock their platforms down) 12:10:50 <aleth> I suspect "email done right" is just very very hard 12:12:47 <Mic> You mean long term goals for Thunderbird? ("What would we like it to be to be the best client possible?") 12:13:34 <aleth> I suspect it's hard with a mature client and a large existing codebase to really look at it with a fresh eye 12:14:16 <aleth> Plus millions of users who depend on things working the way they are used to... 12:16:36 <Mic> Last time I checked Tb, its UI was a potpourri of colours and design ideas and looked just awful :S 12:17:28 <Mic> That's one thing I meant with "lack of love", not a complete overhaul of functionality (I heard people asking for better calendar/adressbook integration though). 12:18:10 <aleth> Maybe the new australis redesign will help, I don't know 12:19:14 <aleth> As always it'll only improve if someone wants to work on it and not on something else ;) 12:20:46 <aleth> I suspect the success of webmail is a significant part of the reasoning for "the web is the platform" 12:24:31 <-- chrisccoulson has quit (Ping timeout) 12:49:37 <Mic> aleth: would you be interested in reviewing add-ons from time to time? I'm especially thinking of my own add-ons which I can't review myself ;) 12:50:51 <aleth> I'd be happy to review yours 12:51:19 <aleth> Otherwise I should really read the CAP specs and review clokeps patches... 12:52:56 <Mic> Thanks, I'll message flo or Even about it then when they're back. 13:01:07 <Mic> bye 13:01:11 <-- Mic has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 13:33:16 --> sonny has joined #instantbird 13:52:43 <-- aleth has quit (Input/output error) 13:53:19 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 13:53:19 * ChanServ sets mode +h aleth 14:01:33 --> FireFly_TB has joined #instantbird 14:44:23 <-- igorko has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 14:44:56 --> Optimizer has joined #instantbird 15:14:44 --> Tomek has joined #instantbird 15:27:15 <-- DGMurdockIII has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88.2 [Firefox 13.0.1/20120614114901]) 15:36:26 --> wesj1 has joined #instantbird 15:41:17 <-- FireFly_TB has quit (Ping timeout) 15:47:52 --> FireFly_TB has joined #instantbird 15:59:02 --> gerard-majax has joined #instantbird 16:00:11 <-- wesj1 has quit (Quit: wesj1) 16:13:50 <-- gerard-majax has quit (Ping timeout) 16:19:03 <-- FireFly_TB has quit (Ping timeout) 16:21:00 --> FireFly_TB has joined #instantbird 16:30:26 --> Lalae has joined #instantbird 16:30:50 <-- Lalae has left #instantbird () 16:32:08 <-- sonny has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 16:32:12 --> sonny has joined #instantbird 16:52:29 <-- FireFly_TB has quit (Ping timeout) 16:58:59 <-- Kaishi has quit (Ping timeout) 16:59:41 --> FireFly_TB has joined #instantbird 17:01:04 <-- Suiseiseki has quit (Ping timeout) 17:02:43 --> Kaishi has joined #instantbird 17:02:53 --> Suiseiseki has joined #instantbird 17:04:25 <-- Kaishi has quit (Ping timeout) 17:04:30 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 17:04:31 * ChanServ sets mode +o clokep 17:05:42 <-- meh has quit (Ping timeout) 17:08:05 --> Kaishi has joined #instantbird 17:12:32 <-- Kaishi has quit (Ping timeout) 17:19:04 <-- clokep has quit (Ping timeout) 17:21:59 --> Kaishi has joined #instantbird 17:24:02 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 17:24:02 * ChanServ sets mode +o clokep 17:30:40 <-- FireFly_TB has quit (Ping timeout) 17:35:08 --> meh has joined #instantbird 17:38:34 <-- clokep has quit (Ping timeout) 17:50:04 --> igorko has joined #instantbird 17:59:51 <-- Optimizer has quit (Ping timeout) 18:00:24 --> Optimizer has joined #instantbird 18:07:56 <-- Tomek has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.1) 18:13:09 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 18:13:09 * ChanServ sets mode +o clokep 18:42:41 <-- clokep has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 19:07:23 <-- Kaishi has quit (Input/output error) 19:28:01 <-- Optimizer has quit (Ping timeout) 19:32:04 --> Optimizer has joined #instantbird 19:44:12 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 19:44:13 * ChanServ sets mode +h Mic 19:47:59 <-- Optimizer has quit (Ping timeout) 19:48:57 --> Optimizer has joined #instantbird 19:59:41 --> FireFly_TB has joined #instantbird 20:01:24 <-- FireFly_TB has quit (Ping timeout) 20:05:18 <-- sonny has quit (Connection reset by peer) 20:05:20 --> sonny has joined #instantbird 20:31:37 <-- Tonnes has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88.2 [Firefox 13.0.1/20120614114901]) 20:36:04 <-- sonny has quit (Ping timeout) 20:37:42 --> Tomek has joined #instantbird 20:39:37 --> sonny has joined #instantbird 20:46:38 <-- Mic has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 20:55:55 <-- sonny has quit (Connection reset by peer) 20:55:59 --> sonny has joined #instantbird 21:15:35 --> Kaishi has joined #instantbird 21:23:03 --> Tonnes has joined #instantbird 21:27:33 --> ecmuller has joined #instantbird 21:31:31 --> gerard-majax has joined #instantbird 21:57:55 <-- gerard-majax has quit (Ping timeout) 22:01:11 <-- sonny has quit (Ping timeout) 22:07:06 <-- igorko has quit (Client exited) 22:38:11 <-- Kaishi has quit (Input/output error) 22:55:35 <instantbot> aletheia2@fastmail.fm granted feedback for attachment 1731 on bug 1573. 22:55:38 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1573 enh, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Support SASL for IRC 23:04:50 --> FireFly_TB has joined #instantbird 23:10:51 --> mmkmou has joined #instantbird 23:17:07 <-- mmkmou has quit (Ping timeout) 23:20:58 --> mmkmou has joined #instantbird 23:25:25 <-- aleth has quit (Input/output error)