#instantbird log on 06 28 2012

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00:02:04 <clokep> EionRobb: First of all...it's abstracted so you don't care about each OS.
00:02:47 <EionRobb> just like FileAPI
00:02:50 <clokep> aleth: http://i.imgur.com/aII0q.png
00:03:11 <clokep> Sorry, I though you had typoed and that was supposed to be w32 FileAPI, but you really mean the W3C.
00:03:39 <clokep> I believe File.IO will offer lower level access to the file system that websites won't have access to w/ FileAPI.
00:04:25 <clokep> aleth: Unfortunately I forgot to copy the years when making that. :(
00:05:00 <aleth> Haha :) 
00:05:01 <aleth> Impressive.
00:05:10 <aleth> I hope you have that as a wallchart ;)
00:05:25 <clokep> I should print it out...
00:05:51 <clokep> Use it as a dart board. ;)
00:06:03 <aleth> It's rather neat... did you draw it by hand or use some mapping tool for it?
00:07:15 <clokep> You're going to hate me...
00:07:17 <clokep> It's done in Excel.
00:08:27 <instantbot> aletheia2@fastmail.fm set the Resolution field on bug 1130 to WORKSFORME.
00:08:29 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1130 maj, --, ---, nobody, RESO WORKSFORME, Listbox sometimes does not display all list items after scrolling
00:08:57 <clokep> I've never been able to find a good flow charting software...
00:09:21 <aleth> Well, it did the job ;)
00:09:36 <aleth> One of those mind-mapping tools might do it.
00:09:49 <aleth> But I've never really tried those out.
00:09:55 <Mook_as> I think VIsio is supposed to be the tool for that in MS Office?
00:09:57 <clokep> They're all crappy in my experience.
00:10:05 <instant-buildbot> build #286 of linux-onCommit is complete: Success [build successful]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/linux-onCommit/builds/286
00:10:07 <clokep> Mook_as: I can't find my Office 2010 discs, I think they're at my parents.
00:10:20 <Mook_as> some of those lines look funny, e.g. it looks like Conference Room (the green blob) is derived from some GPL thing :)
00:10:51 <clokep> Only if it has an arrow and comes from the side is it derived...
00:11:17 <Mook_as> yeah, there's too much arrow-overlap :)
00:11:18 <clokep> But yes some of the lines are sucky. :)
00:11:28 <clokep> Yeah, I need to rearrange left to right so that a "tree" is made?
00:11:41 <instantbot> aletheia2@fastmail.fm set the Resolution field on bug 1143 to WORKSFORME.
00:11:42 <clokep> (I.e. everything that branches from foo is below it.)
00:11:45 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1143 nor, --, ---, nobody, RESO WORKSFORME, New participants not correctly added to collapsed participant list
00:11:49 <Mook_as> or use dot / graphviz
00:12:14 <aleth> I'd probably use Latex...
00:12:39 <aleth> But that would be more like coding the flowchart ;)
00:13:24 <aleth> ^^ Two bugs I am very happy to resolve!
00:13:38 <aleth> (and somewhat surprised)
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00:15:57 <clokep> aleth: SVG would make more sense...
00:16:51 <aleth> MS Office has IRC support?
00:17:10 <aleth> (looking at Office IRCd)
00:18:06 <Mook_as> right, that chart is missing ComicChat
00:18:28 <Mook_as> at least, I _suspect_ it had its own non-standard server... not sure, though
00:18:47 <aleth> clokep: http://www.texample.net/tikz/examples/tag/diagrams/
00:18:56 <Mook_as> hmm, maybe it was just a client instead.
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00:19:59 <clokep> Mook_as: It certainly doesn't have everything... :P
00:20:06 <clokep> aleth: That's not part of "Microsoft Office" directly.
00:20:15 <clokep> It's just the list from WP.
00:22:34 <clokep> Although if you seriously do know of others...I'll add them.
00:23:31 <aleth> This looks kind of funky too http://www.graphviz.org/
00:23:54 <aleth> (on looking for SVG flowcharts...)
00:24:05 <instantbot> clokep@gmail.com requested review from aletheia2@fastmail. fm for attachment 1714 on bug 1552.
00:24:08 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1552 min, --, ---, clokep, ASSI, Handle 329: RPL_CREATIONTIME
00:24:18 <Mook_as> yes,you probably want to be using graphviz over tex for this.
00:25:47 <instantbot> aletheia2@fastmail.fm granted review for attachment 1714 on bug 1552.
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00:45:46 <clokep> Anyone here on Skype?
00:47:02 <EionRobb> yep
00:47:32 <clokep> EionRobb: I got Skype to compile w/ Instantbird...
00:47:34 <clokep> And work.
00:47:37 <EionRobb> neat :)
00:47:42 <clokep> Although it throws like a billion assertions. :(
00:47:45 <EionRobb> yay!
00:47:46 <clokep> So I'm going to do a non-debug build.
00:47:58 <EionRobb> are the assertions about status != NULL?
00:48:41 <clokep> EionRobb: I think it was http://lxr.instantbird.org/instantbird/source/purple/purplexpcom/src/purpleTimer.cpp#99
00:51:43 <EionRobb> ah yes
00:51:58 <EionRobb> because the plugin uses purple_timeout_add() to put things back onto the main thread
00:52:17 <clokep> So it's hacky. ;)
00:52:41 <EionRobb> probably less hacky than "prevent libpurple from writing prefs.xml...."
00:54:16 <aleth> Wow, sounds like the bonjour buildsystem experience is paying off ;)
00:54:19 <clokep> Shhh, the prpls don't know any different.
00:54:31 <clokep> aleth: All I did was reapply a patch last night and build last night.
00:55:02 <aleth> Magic?
00:55:30 <clokep> ?
00:55:38 <clokep> I had written some stuff for this a LONGGGG time ago...
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00:55:59 <aleth> Ah, that made it sound like it didn't work, and then suddenly it did after building again
00:57:15 <clokep> aleth: It used to crash Instantbird when I opened the account wizard. ;)
00:57:21 <clokep> I'm guessing a libpurple upgrade fixed it.
00:57:53 <aleth> :)
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01:32:21 <instant-buildbot> build #254 of macosx-onCommit is complete: Success [build successful]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/macosx-onCommit/builds/254
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01:51:44 <instant-buildbot> build #274 of win32-onCommit is complete: Success [build successful]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/win32-onCommit/builds/274
02:30:02 <EionRobb> clokep: did you want to test skype out on someone?
02:30:19 <clokep> EionRobb: My non debug build is compiling still.
02:30:29 <clokep> Kind of hard to test it when I get pop ups with the assertions every 2 seconds. :-D
02:30:43 <clokep> Soon hopefully though.
02:30:45 * clokep is actually going to bed.
02:35:26 <EionRobb> don't do it!
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03:15:55 <instant-buildbot> build #548 of linux-nightly-default is complete: Success [build successful]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/linux-nightly-default/builds/548
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05:00:05 <instant-buildbot> build #637 of win32-nightly-default is complete: Success [build successful]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/win32-nightly-default/builds/637
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06:06:19 <instant-buildbot> build #533 of macosx-nightly-default is complete: Success [build successful]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/macosx-nightly-default/builds/533
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06:38:43 <instantbot> New Core - XMPP bug 1557 filed by aqeel@aqeeliz.com.
06:38:45 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1557 nor, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, Contact names set in other clients don't show in Instantbird
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09:09:44 <eson57> Hi guys
09:10:34 <eson57> I´ve updated Swedish repository, but I don´t get any response from server
09:11:15 <eson57> no log and no language extension  :(
09:12:01 <eson57> can´t test my updates
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10:24:15 <clokep> eson57: The buildbot says it's offline...I don't know if that's how it usually is or not, unfortunately.
10:24:20 <clokep> I see other people's changes have been built...
10:27:31 <eson57> ok... thanks for checking
10:31:27 <FeuerFliege> clokep: the l10n-buildbot is inactive for month now :(
10:32:11 <FeuerFliege> all builds were forced by Flo or Eve
10:32:31 <clokep> FeuerFliege: Ah Thanks. I saw a build was done for you, I didn't realize it was forced.
10:33:42 <FeuerFliege> even if you push a change during the short period when the buildbot is online in the morning no build is triggered.
10:34:17 <clokep> eson57: Feel free to file a bug btw, I don't think we have one on file, but flo definitely knows of the problem.
10:34:46 <clokep> Unfortunately he might be gone for a few days already...
10:37:23 <eson57> ok... where and how do I file the bug?
10:37:58 <eson57> I´m a simple translator, and not very good at this  :(
10:38:51 <clokep> No problem. :) We file bugs in http://bugzilla.instantbird.org
10:38:56 <clokep> I believe there's a l10n component.
10:39:33 <eson57> ok, I´ll take a look at it
10:39:34 <FeuerFliege> eson57: I can file the bug if you like.
10:40:00 <eson57> I do very much... thank you  :)
10:40:10 <clokep> Thanks FeuerFliege. :)
10:41:06 <FeuerFliege> bug 930 seems ready but forgotten.
10:41:10 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=930 nor, --, ---, mmkmou, ASSI, Add a link to "FAQ" on "help" menu item
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10:43:39 <clokep> FeuerFliege: I think it's not.
10:44:00 <clokep> Ah, maybe it is.
10:44:04 <clokep> But it needs testing on Mac.
10:45:10 <FeuerFliege> do we know someone with a Mac? ;)
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10:51:36 <instantbot> New Websites - buildbot.instantbird.org (Buildbot) bug 1558 filed by bugi@media.fjmail.de.
10:51:44 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1558 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, l10n buildbot is not active
10:54:23 <FeuerFliege> eson57: I filed the bug. You can add yourself to CC if you want to stay up to date, but in that case your email address will be shown on the page.
10:55:39 <eson57> ok, thanks
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12:24:20 <flo> hello :)
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12:30:30 <clokep_work> Good mroning flo.
12:30:35 <clokep_work> Uhh...afternoon!
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12:35:32 <aleth> Hmm, that FAQ bug has strings. Just a heads up should it be wanted...
12:36:44 <flo> which one? Or should I shut up until I've read the log? :)
12:36:55 <clokep_work> Read the log. ;)
12:38:16 <flo> this is what kept me busy this morning: http://queze.net/goinfre/mamie/garage-flo.jpg :)
12:38:29 <aleth> new garage? :D
12:39:08 <flo> isn't a garage the only thing one needs to create a start up? ;)
12:39:20 <aleth> Depends if you fill it with AMIs instead ;)
12:39:33 <flo> bah... :-]
12:40:04 <aleth> Can do both of course :) Start-up in an AMI... a legend is born :D
12:40:16 <flo> aleth: I also got the house next to the garages of course ;)
12:40:29 <flo> the one on the right on the photo
12:40:57 <flo> but the double garage is what decided me to buy this one ; it's rare to have a double garage for a small (ie affordable) house.
12:41:01 <aleth> Looks nice :) plenty of space from what one can see...
12:41:48 <clokep_work> Fancy. You have a courtyard in the back too?
12:41:55 <clokep_work> What kept you busy, cleaning it out? :P
12:42:08 <flo> clokep_work: courtyard -> yes
12:43:22 <flo> clokep_work: moving my stuff out of the room I had in the dormitory, inspecting the house now that the seller has removed his stuff (he did only yesterday evening of course...), signing the papers at the notary...
12:43:36 <aleth> You did all that this morning? Good going...
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12:45:12 <flo> I also metered all rooms on the first floor, to have all the data I need to decide how I can setup a kitchen and a bathroom inside
12:45:15 <clokep_work> So everything is official then? :) Congrats.
12:45:24 <clokep_work> "metered"?
12:45:36 <flo> measured?
12:46:17 <flo> (google translate doesn't help me in deciding which translation is write for the French word "mesure" =(take the dimensions))
12:46:21 <flo> *right
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12:47:16 <aleth> apparently it exists :) "meter (v.)  "to measure by means of a meter," 1884, from meter (n.3)."
12:47:18 <flo> clokep_work: "So everything is official then? :) Congrats." Thanks! Yes, it's now mine. My pocket is full of keys
12:47:38 <aleth> Must be quite a moment, placing that signature...
12:48:01 <clokep_work> flo: "measured" is used for distance.
12:48:06 <clokep_work> (If not everything...?)
12:48:34 <flo> ok
12:48:44 <clokep_work> "metered" is like to keep track of a measurement, colloquially, or to cap a measurement.
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13:21:36 <FeuerFliege> flo: hi
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13:23:34 <FeuerFliege> flo: The bug aleth mentioned is bug  930. I stumbled upon it this morning.
13:23:45 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=930 nor, --, ---, mmkmou, ASSI, Add a link to "FAQ" on "help" menu item
13:26:34 <clokep_work> That patch has definitely bitrot. :
13:26:40 <flo> aleth: for bug 763872 I think we just need someone to try to answer the strange question from the reviewer
13:27:23 <aleth> Not easy to find someone with a screen reader...
13:27:44 <flo> right
13:27:56 <flo> so we need someone to recompile a build with what he said (the early return)
13:28:09 <flo> I'll do that on my linux box (which compiles way faster) eventually
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13:28:34 * clokep_work wonders what "purple.conversations.chat.show_nick_change" does...
13:29:14 <aleth> Btw it would be good if someone else tried to reproduce the listbox errors from the bugs I resolved yesterday, just to double-check it wasn't just a race condition which for random reasons no longer happens to me.
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13:32:38 <instantbot> New Core - IRC bug 1559 filed by clokep@gmail.com.
13:32:41 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1559 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, IRC should abide by messenger.conversations.autoAcceptChatInvitations
13:33:27 <flo> "<EionRobb> probably less hacky than "prevent libpurple from writing prefs.xml...."" I think we can get rid of that hack, now that I ditched prefs.c from libpurple :-P
13:33:40 <flo> or maybe we also need to ifdef out some code from accounts.c
13:34:41 <flo> "<clokep> Kind of hard to test it when I get pop ups with the assertions every 2 seconds. :-D" I think there's an environment variable to disable the modal alerts
13:37:09 <clokep_work> flo: Oh? Well I wanted to do a non-debug build anyway, maybe package it as an extension (although there's not really a better way to do that then to add it to the tree, build it and then extra the portions I need, is htere?
13:37:47 <clokep_work> Also, bonjour didn't get built for me...I had to manually go into the bonjour folders and build. Which was strange, but maybe that's from my pkg-config changes....
13:37:48 <aleth> https://i.minus.com/ibtIJcPkBZ58Zg.png ;)
13:37:55 <flo> the build system supports building and packaging add-ons, but I've rarely used that, so I don't know how to do it
13:38:24 <clokep_work> Hm. Interesting.
13:38:38 <clokep_work> aleth: That doesn't seem useful. :-D
13:38:44 <aleth> Not really :D
13:39:15 <flo> if eson57 comes back, please tell him about: http://hg.instantbird.org/l10n/locales-status.html#sv-SE
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13:44:05 <flo> how do people feel about https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/attachment.cgi?id=1712 ?
13:44:34 <aleth> What's it for?
13:46:15 <flo> aleth: I don't feel like explaining, so I think a picture will do: http://i.imgur.com/RH6XH.jpg :)
13:46:26 <aleth> Aha :)
13:46:47 <aleth> Some of the icons in the picture don't match those we use.
13:46:47 <clokep_work> flo: Where is that IRC icon from? The AIM icon seems wrong. The Twitter icon seems outdated. The MSN icon differs from what we currently use.
13:46:52 <clokep_work> (I.e. I dislike it.)
13:46:54 <flo> and btw, the white background on Tb's image is really really ugly
13:47:00 <flo> someone should tell andreas about it :-P
13:47:42 <FeuerFliege> clokep_work: twitter outdated?
13:47:48 <flo> clokep_work: the twitter icon seems actually to be the *updated* one
13:47:57 <flo> clokep_work: mind pasting your feedback in the bug?
13:47:59 <FeuerFliege> it’s the new bird.
13:48:05 <aleth> We should probably be using that MSN icon (it's newer than ours), but we don't
13:48:53 <flo> clokep_work: the bug = bug 483
13:48:56 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=483 min, --, ---, bugi, ASSI, Instantbird default theme has no preview image
13:50:05 <clokep_work> Is it? It's small, I can't tell. :P
13:50:54 <FeuerFliege> clokep_work: IRC icon is from instantbird.com. Icons for XMPP, Twitter, AIM and MSN are the latest icons.
13:51:08 <aleth> clokep_work: http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/messenger/home
13:51:27 <clokep_work> FeuerFliege: OK, but I dislike that they match the icons we use in Instantbird.
13:51:42 <aleth> Maybe we need a patch to update the MSN icon in IB ;)
13:51:46 <flo> clokep_work: I dislike the IRC icon in instantbird
13:52:03 <flo> and the XMPP icon on ib.com is outdate
13:52:03 <flo> d
13:52:55 <FeuerFliege> The thing I don’t know/doubt is if we actually are allowed to use the logos.
13:53:18 <flo> hmm, is it a good idea that the protocol links on the home page link to the official clients?
13:53:25 <flo> maybe we could link all of them to wikipedia pages? :-P
13:53:26 <clokep_work> aleth: Someone filed a bug about that & calling it "Windows Live Messenger", it got marked as WONTFIX.
13:53:42 <clokep_work> flo: I do too. :)
13:53:53 <clokep_work> Maybe I should file a Thunderbird bug about that...
13:53:57 <aleth> I just think we should be consistent...
13:54:09 <flo> clokep_work: yeah, put that on Andreas' plate :-P
13:54:22 <aleth> :)
13:54:24 <flo> "Thunderbird's IRC icon sucks" :-P
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13:57:00 <clokep_work> flo: Does Thunderbird also use the "two bubbles" icon that we use to represent a chat/MUC?
13:57:09 <clokep_work> aleth: I agree consistent is good.
13:57:21 <flo> clokep_work: and maybe even for the "Chat" tab!
13:58:10 <aleth> There's a bug somewhere on "too many bubble icons in IRC MUCs"
13:58:43 <clokep_work> Yes.
14:00:23 <clokep_work> (aleth Btw I marked the MSN --> WLM as WONTFIX because it's inherited from "upstream".)
14:01:06 <aleth> (clokep_work I was just thinking that maybe if/when someone writes MSN-XMPP would be a good time to switch the icon)
14:02:22 <clokep_work> Yes. :)
14:02:30 <clokep_work> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=769256
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15:18:21 <flo> is "OMG" part of the AIM brand now? :-S
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15:24:35 <clokep_work> Where'd that come from?
15:26:29 <flo> clokep_work: I was just looking at http://www.aim.com/
15:26:49 <flo> "aim   OMG since 1997", and "OMG" is present too on the right column
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15:35:04 <clokep_work> (o_O) Weird.
15:36:51 <aleth> I hope it's not OMG^(TM)
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15:37:09 <flo> aleth: that would be fun ;)
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15:55:27 <wnayes> I was thinking these few days before the vacations would be a good time to discuss either the log importing or UI (so during that time I can work on that or the remaining importer code)
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15:58:55 <flo> wnayes: vacations could be in half an hour for me ;)
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16:02:18 <wnayes> flo: Ah ok :) I think I have a good idea about how to structure the existing interfaces to allow log importing; not sure about making the task suspend-able.
16:03:14 <flo> wnayes: I will likely still be online until tomorrow evening though, so I may still send some feedback. But don't expect me to be in front of the computer the whole day (I'll be fixing the AMI :))
16:03:33 <wnayes> I was thinking the basic thing necessary would be a "importAccount(aExistingAccount)" in each importer, which would perform the tasks of actually moving in data after the wizard creates the accounts.
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16:06:25 <wnayes> Maybe something like "web workers" could be useful for scheduling the tasks?
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16:26:02 <flo> hg convert is slow on large repositories :(
16:26:36 <flo> I'm converting comm-central to keep only chat/ so that I see what the recent chat check-ins are, and so that I can hg export | hg import - in the ib repository :)
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16:50:44 <instantbot> florian@instantbird.org set the Resolution field on bug 1552 to FIXED.
16:50:47 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1552 min, --, 1.2, clokep, RESO FIXED, Handle 329: RPL_CREATIONTIME
16:53:34 <clokep_work> Thanks flo. :)
16:53:42 <flo> bah, I forgot to remove the whiteboard annotation, thanks clokep_work :)
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16:56:36 <clokep_work> No problem.
16:56:50 <clokep_work> flo: If you want to override aleth's r-, I think you could check in my whowas patch too. :)
16:57:14 <clokep_work> (I really can't think of a better help string for that...)
16:57:14 <aleth> Or I can r+ it (we discussed it on IRC) :)
16:57:15 <flo> are aleth's r- overridable? :-O
16:57:38 <clokep_work> Yeah, I tried to think of a better string. BUt i think the one we have is applicable enough.
16:57:55 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/e382a55d9049 - Patrick Cloke - Bug 1552 - Handle 329: RPL_CREATIONTIME, r=aleth.
16:57:56 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/29e15c46ac9b - Andreas Nilsson - Bug 768525 - Update the twitter logo, ui-r=bwinton, rs=clokep.
16:57:57 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/3f354c97cdd7 - Florian Quèze - Bug 754824 - The highlight is off by a few characters in the search result view when some characters are UTF8 encoded on 4 bytes - Follow-up to only match UTF-16 surrogate
16:57:58 <instantbot> halves, r=asuth.
16:57:59 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/edbd4a66bdf5 - Florian Quèze - Bug 755718 - There should be an audible notification when new messages are received on IRC - add a new-directed-incoming-message notification, r=clokep.
16:58:11 <flo> aleth: "Or I can r+ it (we discussed it on IRC) :)" sounds like a better plan ;)
16:58:42 <instantbot> aletheia2@fastmail.fm granted review for attachment 1708 on bug 1551.
16:58:44 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1551 min, --, ---, clokep, ASSI, Remove whowas command, duplicate of whois
17:00:19 <clokep_work> Doesn't http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/edbd4a66bdf5 need Instantbird changes too?
17:00:29 <flo> "need" no
17:00:48 <flo> we can do some cleanup as a result of it
17:00:49 <flo> :)
17:01:50 <aleth> Is there a nicer sound file we can adapt as well? not that I ever use sounds...
17:02:27 <instantbot> New Instantbird (UI) bug 1560 filed by florian@instantbird.org.
17:02:29 <flo> and I promised I would file a bug for that, so here it is :)
17:02:30 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1560 tri, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Take advantage of the new new-directed-incoming-message notification to cleanup some code
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17:02:58 <clokep_work> Thanks! :)
17:03:01 * clokep_work was going to do it.
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17:04:38 <flo> clokep_work: yeah, I had to hurry up to file it before you; I suspected you were about to do it, and I said *I* would do it ;)
17:12:57 <instantbot> florian@instantbird.org set the Resolution field on bug 1551 to FIXED.
17:13:01 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1551 min, --, 1.2, clokep, RESO FIXED, Remove whowas command, duplicate of whois
17:13:30 <clokep_work> :)
17:13:35 <clokep_work> Thanks for checking that in too!
17:13:39 <clokep_work> My bug queue is reducing dramatically. ;)
17:17:57 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/7bab3908b1bd - Patrick Cloke - Bug 1551 - Remove whowas command, duplicate of whois, r=aleth.
17:19:11 <aleth> clokep_work: super-minor bug: there's a missing closing parens in the /wallops help message
17:19:25 <clokep_work> aleth: Does the /wallops command do anything? ;)
17:19:36 <aleth> no idea - I have no use for it.
17:20:18 <clokep_work> aleth: Yeah we need to just rewrite that help message anyway and not inherit libpurple's pretentious one.
17:20:30 <aleth> Pretty much.
17:20:51 <clokep_work> Good catch though. :)
17:21:02 <aleth> Was just curious what it was for...
17:22:49 <clokep_work> aleth: http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2812#section-4.7
17:24:41 <instantbot> New Core - IRC bug 1561 filed by clokep@gmail.com.
17:24:46 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1561 tri, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Remove libpurple's pretentious /wallops help message
17:25:31 * clokep_work thinks removing the command might make more sense...
17:25:40 <clokep_work> (But I really wanted to file the bug that way...)
17:25:52 <aleth> I am trying to come up with a use case...
17:26:07 * aleth sets his mode +w and listens in
17:27:55 <clokep_work> No one sends wallops..
17:32:27 * clokep_work would r+ a patch removing it. ;)
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17:49:24 <flo> Good evening :)
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22:32:40 <wnayes> It looks like I will need to use the blowfish cipher for the AIM importer. Is there anything existing for me to use (haven't found it yet if so, at least in a MPL license) or should I try to write my own implementation?
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22:37:16 <Mook_as> since you like it, js-ctypes/nss?
22:37:40 <flo> Mook_as: isn't it scriptable already?
22:38:14 <Mook_as> nss? heck no. security/manager/ is the xpcom wrapper, but it often has holes
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22:47:29 <wnayes> Hmm, I'm not sure what would be better in that case- a new JS implementation or more js-ctypes.
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22:50:38 <Mook_as> google finds a cc-by-nc-sa 3.0 impl, which... probably isn't useful fro you.
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23:10:00 <wnayes> It's difficult to find anything about nss, I don't see Blowfish on this list either: http://www.mozilla.org/projects/security/pki/nss/algorithms.html
23:13:32 <Mook_as> hmm, it's possible (... and likely) that I'm mistaken, and it doesn't actually implement blowfish
23:14:52 <wnayes> There's just a handful of references to it (ex: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/security/nss/lib/util/pkcs11t.h#426)
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