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00:02:04 <clokep> EionRobb: First of all...it's abstracted so you don't care about each OS. 00:02:47 <EionRobb> just like FileAPI 00:02:50 <clokep> aleth: http://i.imgur.com/aII0q.png 00:03:11 <clokep> Sorry, I though you had typoed and that was supposed to be w32 FileAPI, but you really mean the W3C. 00:03:39 <clokep> I believe File.IO will offer lower level access to the file system that websites won't have access to w/ FileAPI. 00:04:25 <clokep> aleth: Unfortunately I forgot to copy the years when making that. :( 00:05:00 <aleth> Haha :) 00:05:01 <aleth> Impressive. 00:05:10 <aleth> I hope you have that as a wallchart ;) 00:05:25 <clokep> I should print it out... 00:05:51 <clokep> Use it as a dart board. ;) 00:06:03 <aleth> It's rather neat... did you draw it by hand or use some mapping tool for it? 00:07:15 <clokep> You're going to hate me... 00:07:17 <clokep> It's done in Excel. 00:08:27 <instantbot> aletheia2@fastmail.fm set the Resolution field on bug 1130 to WORKSFORME. 00:08:29 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1130 maj, --, ---, nobody, RESO WORKSFORME, Listbox sometimes does not display all list items after scrolling 00:08:57 <clokep> I've never been able to find a good flow charting software... 00:09:21 <aleth> Well, it did the job ;) 00:09:36 <aleth> One of those mind-mapping tools might do it. 00:09:49 <aleth> But I've never really tried those out. 00:09:55 <Mook_as> I think VIsio is supposed to be the tool for that in MS Office? 00:09:57 <clokep> They're all crappy in my experience. 00:10:05 <instant-buildbot> build #286 of linux-onCommit is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/linux-onCommit/builds/286 00:10:07 <clokep> Mook_as: I can't find my Office 2010 discs, I think they're at my parents. 00:10:20 <Mook_as> some of those lines look funny, e.g. it looks like Conference Room (the green blob) is derived from some GPL thing :) 00:10:51 <clokep> Only if it has an arrow and comes from the side is it derived... 00:11:17 <Mook_as> yeah, there's too much arrow-overlap :) 00:11:18 <clokep> But yes some of the lines are sucky. :) 00:11:28 <clokep> Yeah, I need to rearrange left to right so that a "tree" is made? 00:11:41 <instantbot> aletheia2@fastmail.fm set the Resolution field on bug 1143 to WORKSFORME. 00:11:42 <clokep> (I.e. everything that branches from foo is below it.) 00:11:45 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1143 nor, --, ---, nobody, RESO WORKSFORME, New participants not correctly added to collapsed participant list 00:11:49 <Mook_as> or use dot / graphviz 00:12:14 <aleth> I'd probably use Latex... 00:12:39 <aleth> But that would be more like coding the flowchart ;) 00:13:24 <aleth> ^^ Two bugs I am very happy to resolve! 00:13:38 <aleth> (and somewhat surprised) 00:15:37 <-- mmkmou has quit (Ping timeout) 00:15:57 <clokep> aleth: SVG would make more sense... 00:16:51 <aleth> MS Office has IRC support? 00:17:10 <aleth> (looking at Office IRCd) 00:18:06 <Mook_as> right, that chart is missing ComicChat 00:18:28 <Mook_as> at least, I _suspect_ it had its own non-standard server... not sure, though 00:18:47 <aleth> clokep: http://www.texample.net/tikz/examples/tag/diagrams/ 00:18:56 <Mook_as> hmm, maybe it was just a client instead. 00:19:30 --> clokep_js has joined #instantbird 00:19:40 <-- clokep_js has quit (Input/output error) 00:19:59 <clokep> Mook_as: It certainly doesn't have everything... :P 00:20:06 <clokep> aleth: That's not part of "Microsoft Office" directly. 00:20:15 <clokep> It's just the list from WP. 00:22:34 <clokep> Although if you seriously do know of others...I'll add them. 00:23:31 <aleth> This looks kind of funky too http://www.graphviz.org/ 00:23:54 <aleth> (on looking for SVG flowcharts...) 00:24:05 <instantbot> clokep@gmail.com requested review from aletheia2@fastmail. fm for attachment 1714 on bug 1552. 00:24:08 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1552 min, --, ---, clokep, ASSI, Handle 329: RPL_CREATIONTIME 00:24:18 <Mook_as> yes,you probably want to be using graphviz over tex for this. 00:25:47 <instantbot> aletheia2@fastmail.fm granted review for attachment 1714 on bug 1552. 00:30:51 <-- wnayes has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 00:45:46 <clokep> Anyone here on Skype? 00:47:02 <EionRobb> yep 00:47:32 <clokep> EionRobb: I got Skype to compile w/ Instantbird... 00:47:34 <clokep> And work. 00:47:37 <EionRobb> neat :) 00:47:42 <clokep> Although it throws like a billion assertions. :( 00:47:45 <EionRobb> yay! 00:47:46 <clokep> So I'm going to do a non-debug build. 00:47:58 <EionRobb> are the assertions about status != NULL? 00:48:41 <clokep> EionRobb: I think it was http://lxr.instantbird.org/instantbird/source/purple/purplexpcom/src/purpleTimer.cpp#99 00:51:43 <EionRobb> ah yes 00:51:58 <EionRobb> because the plugin uses purple_timeout_add() to put things back onto the main thread 00:52:17 <clokep> So it's hacky. ;) 00:52:41 <EionRobb> probably less hacky than "prevent libpurple from writing prefs.xml...." 00:54:16 <aleth> Wow, sounds like the bonjour buildsystem experience is paying off ;) 00:54:19 <clokep> Shhh, the prpls don't know any different. 00:54:31 <clokep> aleth: All I did was reapply a patch last night and build last night. 00:55:02 <aleth> Magic? 00:55:30 <clokep> ? 00:55:38 <clokep> I had written some stuff for this a LONGGGG time ago... 00:55:49 <-- Tomek has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.1) 00:55:59 <aleth> Ah, that made it sound like it didn't work, and then suddenly it did after building again 00:57:15 <clokep> aleth: It used to crash Instantbird when I opened the account wizard. ;) 00:57:21 <clokep> I'm guessing a libpurple upgrade fixed it. 00:57:53 <aleth> :) 00:58:33 <-- chrisccoulson has quit (Quit: Ex-Chat) 01:01:05 <-- Mook_as has quit (Quit: Mook_as) 01:02:55 --> chrisccoulson has joined #instantbird 01:05:56 <-- aleth has quit (Input/output error) 01:06:29 --> Tomek has joined #instantbird 01:15:57 <-- DGMurdockIII has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88.2 [Firefox 13.0.1/20120614114901]) 01:17:59 <-- chrisccoulson has quit (Quit: Ex-Chat) 01:22:57 --> chrisccoulson has joined #instantbird 01:32:21 <instant-buildbot> build #254 of macosx-onCommit is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/macosx-onCommit/builds/254 01:32:39 <-- Tomek has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.1) 01:51:44 <instant-buildbot> build #274 of win32-onCommit is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/win32-onCommit/builds/274 02:30:02 <EionRobb> clokep: did you want to test skype out on someone? 02:30:19 <clokep> EionRobb: My non debug build is compiling still. 02:30:29 <clokep> Kind of hard to test it when I get pop ups with the assertions every 2 seconds. :-D 02:30:43 <clokep> Soon hopefully though. 02:30:45 * clokep is actually going to bed. 02:35:26 <EionRobb> don't do it! 02:59:19 <-- clokep has quit (Ping timeout) 03:15:55 <instant-buildbot> build #548 of linux-nightly-default is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/linux-nightly-default/builds/548 03:38:21 --> Kaishi has joined #instantbird 05:00:05 <instant-buildbot> build #637 of win32-nightly-default is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/win32-nightly-default/builds/637 05:08:55 --> Mook has joined #instantbird 05:39:45 <-- EionRobb has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 05:59:09 --> gerard-majax has joined #instantbird 06:06:19 <instant-buildbot> build #533 of macosx-nightly-default is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/macosx-nightly-default/builds/533 06:11:18 <-- Tonnes has quit (Connection reset by peer) 06:11:55 --> Tonnes has joined #instantbird 06:14:36 <-- Mook has quit (Quit: Mook) 06:28:42 <-- gerard-majax has quit (Ping timeout) 06:38:43 <instantbot> New Core - XMPP bug 1557 filed by aqeel@aqeeliz.com. 06:38:45 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1557 nor, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, Contact names set in other clients don't show in Instantbird 07:01:15 --> barlas has joined #instantbird 07:23:42 <-- Kaishi has quit (Input/output error) 07:41:41 <-- Even has quit (Input/output error) 07:45:52 --> Lalae has joined #instantbird 07:46:03 <-- Lalae has left #instantbird () 08:00:42 --> gerard-majax has joined #instantbird 08:19:59 --> Optimizer has joined #instantbird 08:28:39 <-- Optimizer has quit (Ping timeout) 08:32:14 --> Optimizer has joined #instantbird 09:08:39 --> eson57 has joined #instantbird 09:09:44 <eson57> Hi guys 09:10:34 <eson57> I´ve updated Swedish repository, but I don´t get any response from server 09:11:15 <eson57> no log and no language extension :( 09:12:01 <eson57> can´t test my updates 09:13:03 <-- gerard-majax has quit (Connection reset by peer) 09:13:05 --> gerard-majax_ has joined #instantbird 09:32:56 <-- eson57 has quit (Ping timeout) 09:34:37 * gerard-majax_ is now known as gerard-majax 09:36:06 --> eson57 has joined #instantbird 09:41:55 --> FeuerFliege has joined #instantbird 09:43:15 --> FireFly_TB has joined #instantbird 10:06:14 --> Even has joined #instantbird 10:06:14 * ChanServ sets mode +o Even 10:21:49 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 10:21:49 * ChanServ sets mode +o clokep 10:24:15 <clokep> eson57: The buildbot says it's offline...I don't know if that's how it usually is or not, unfortunately. 10:24:20 <clokep> I see other people's changes have been built... 10:27:31 <eson57> ok... thanks for checking 10:31:27 <FeuerFliege> clokep: the l10n-buildbot is inactive for month now :( 10:32:11 <FeuerFliege> all builds were forced by Flo or Eve 10:32:31 <clokep> FeuerFliege: Ah Thanks. I saw a build was done for you, I didn't realize it was forced. 10:33:42 <FeuerFliege> even if you push a change during the short period when the buildbot is online in the morning no build is triggered. 10:34:17 <clokep> eson57: Feel free to file a bug btw, I don't think we have one on file, but flo definitely knows of the problem. 10:34:46 <clokep> Unfortunately he might be gone for a few days already... 10:37:23 <eson57> ok... where and how do I file the bug? 10:37:58 <eson57> I´m a simple translator, and not very good at this :( 10:38:51 <clokep> No problem. :) We file bugs in http://bugzilla.instantbird.org 10:38:56 <clokep> I believe there's a l10n component. 10:39:33 <eson57> ok, I´ll take a look at it 10:39:34 <FeuerFliege> eson57: I can file the bug if you like. 10:40:00 <eson57> I do very much... thank you :) 10:40:10 <clokep> Thanks FeuerFliege. :) 10:41:06 <FeuerFliege> bug 930 seems ready but forgotten. 10:41:10 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=930 nor, --, ---, mmkmou, ASSI, Add a link to "FAQ" on "help" menu item 10:41:43 <-- devfil has quit (Client exited) 10:43:39 <clokep> FeuerFliege: I think it's not. 10:44:00 <clokep> Ah, maybe it is. 10:44:04 <clokep> But it needs testing on Mac. 10:45:10 <FeuerFliege> do we know someone with a Mac? ;) 10:50:31 --> Mic|web has joined #instantbird 10:51:36 <instantbot> New Websites - buildbot.instantbird.org (Buildbot) bug 1558 filed by bugi@media.fjmail.de. 10:51:44 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1558 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, l10n buildbot is not active 10:54:23 <FeuerFliege> eson57: I filed the bug. You can add yourself to CC if you want to stay up to date, but in that case your email address will be shown on the page. 10:55:39 <eson57> ok, thanks 10:59:24 <-- clokep has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 11:01:18 <-- Mic|web has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 11:14:02 <-- eson57 has left #instantbird () 11:23:53 --> mmkmou has joined #instantbird 11:40:58 --> clokep_work has joined #instantbird 11:40:58 * ChanServ sets mode +o clokep_work 11:58:10 <-- FireFly_TB has quit (Quit: FireFly_TB) 12:06:53 <-- Optimizer has quit (Ping timeout) 12:07:59 --> Optimizer has joined #instantbird 12:18:31 --> flo has joined #instantbird 12:18:31 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo flo 12:19:08 <-- Optimizer has quit (Ping timeout) 12:19:49 --> Optimizer has joined #instantbird 12:20:17 --> Kaishi has joined #instantbird 12:24:20 <flo> hello :) 12:25:39 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 12:25:39 * ChanServ sets mode +h aleth 12:30:30 <clokep_work> Good mroning flo. 12:30:35 <clokep_work> Uhh...afternoon! 12:32:46 <-- aleth has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 12:32:56 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 12:32:56 * ChanServ sets mode +h aleth 12:35:32 <aleth> Hmm, that FAQ bug has strings. Just a heads up should it be wanted... 12:36:44 <flo> which one? Or should I shut up until I've read the log? :) 12:36:55 <clokep_work> Read the log. ;) 12:38:16 <flo> this is what kept me busy this morning: http://queze.net/goinfre/mamie/garage-flo.jpg :) 12:38:29 <aleth> new garage? :D 12:39:08 <flo> isn't a garage the only thing one needs to create a start up? ;) 12:39:20 <aleth> Depends if you fill it with AMIs instead ;) 12:39:33 <flo> bah... :-] 12:40:04 <aleth> Can do both of course :) Start-up in an AMI... a legend is born :D 12:40:16 <flo> aleth: I also got the house next to the garages of course ;) 12:40:29 <flo> the one on the right on the photo 12:40:57 <flo> but the double garage is what decided me to buy this one ; it's rare to have a double garage for a small (ie affordable) house. 12:41:01 <aleth> Looks nice :) plenty of space from what one can see... 12:41:48 <clokep_work> Fancy. You have a courtyard in the back too? 12:41:55 <clokep_work> What kept you busy, cleaning it out? :P 12:42:08 <flo> clokep_work: courtyard -> yes 12:43:22 <flo> clokep_work: moving my stuff out of the room I had in the dormitory, inspecting the house now that the seller has removed his stuff (he did only yesterday evening of course...), signing the papers at the notary... 12:43:36 <aleth> You did all that this morning? Good going... 12:44:31 <-- Optimizer has quit (Ping timeout) 12:45:12 <flo> I also metered all rooms on the first floor, to have all the data I need to decide how I can setup a kitchen and a bathroom inside 12:45:15 <clokep_work> So everything is official then? :) Congrats. 12:45:24 <clokep_work> "metered"? 12:45:36 <flo> measured? 12:46:17 <flo> (google translate doesn't help me in deciding which translation is write for the French word "mesure" =(take the dimensions)) 12:46:21 <flo> *right 12:47:01 --> Optimizer has joined #instantbird 12:47:16 <aleth> apparently it exists :) "meter (v.) "to measure by means of a meter," 1884, from meter (n.3)." 12:47:18 <flo> clokep_work: "So everything is official then? :) Congrats." Thanks! Yes, it's now mine. My pocket is full of keys 12:47:38 <aleth> Must be quite a moment, placing that signature... 12:48:01 <clokep_work> flo: "measured" is used for distance. 12:48:06 <clokep_work> (If not everything...?) 12:48:34 <flo> ok 12:48:44 <clokep_work> "metered" is like to keep track of a measurement, colloquially, or to cap a measurement. 12:58:14 <-- Optimizer has quit (Ping timeout) 13:05:23 --> Optimizer has joined #instantbird 13:19:36 <-- mmkmou has quit (Ping timeout) 13:21:36 <FeuerFliege> flo: hi 13:21:43 <-- aleth has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 13:21:47 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 13:21:47 * ChanServ sets mode +h aleth 13:23:34 <FeuerFliege> flo: The bug aleth mentioned is bug 930. I stumbled upon it this morning. 13:23:45 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=930 nor, --, ---, mmkmou, ASSI, Add a link to "FAQ" on "help" menu item 13:26:34 <clokep_work> That patch has definitely bitrot. : 13:26:40 <flo> aleth: for bug 763872 I think we just need someone to try to answer the strange question from the reviewer 13:27:23 <aleth> Not easy to find someone with a screen reader... 13:27:44 <flo> right 13:27:56 <flo> so we need someone to recompile a build with what he said (the early return) 13:28:09 <flo> I'll do that on my linux box (which compiles way faster) eventually 13:28:30 --> Tomek has joined #instantbird 13:28:34 * clokep_work wonders what "purple.conversations.chat.show_nick_change" does... 13:29:14 <aleth> Btw it would be good if someone else tried to reproduce the listbox errors from the bugs I resolved yesterday, just to double-check it wasn't just a race condition which for random reasons no longer happens to me. 13:32:02 <-- aleth has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 13:32:07 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 13:32:07 * ChanServ sets mode +h aleth 13:32:38 <instantbot> New Core - IRC bug 1559 filed by clokep@gmail.com. 13:32:41 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1559 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, IRC should abide by messenger.conversations.autoAcceptChatInvitations 13:33:27 <flo> "<EionRobb> probably less hacky than "prevent libpurple from writing prefs.xml...."" I think we can get rid of that hack, now that I ditched prefs.c from libpurple :-P 13:33:40 <flo> or maybe we also need to ifdef out some code from accounts.c 13:34:41 <flo> "<clokep> Kind of hard to test it when I get pop ups with the assertions every 2 seconds. :-D" I think there's an environment variable to disable the modal alerts 13:37:09 <clokep_work> flo: Oh? Well I wanted to do a non-debug build anyway, maybe package it as an extension (although there's not really a better way to do that then to add it to the tree, build it and then extra the portions I need, is htere? 13:37:47 <clokep_work> Also, bonjour didn't get built for me...I had to manually go into the bonjour folders and build. Which was strange, but maybe that's from my pkg-config changes.... 13:37:48 <aleth> https://i.minus.com/ibtIJcPkBZ58Zg.png ;) 13:37:55 <flo> the build system supports building and packaging add-ons, but I've rarely used that, so I don't know how to do it 13:38:24 <clokep_work> Hm. Interesting. 13:38:38 <clokep_work> aleth: That doesn't seem useful. :-D 13:38:44 <aleth> Not really :D 13:39:15 <flo> if eson57 comes back, please tell him about: http://hg.instantbird.org/l10n/locales-status.html#sv-SE 13:42:20 <-- Kaishi has quit (Quit: Kaishi) 13:44:05 <flo> how do people feel about https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/attachment.cgi?id=1712 ? 13:44:34 <aleth> What's it for? 13:46:15 <flo> aleth: I don't feel like explaining, so I think a picture will do: http://i.imgur.com/RH6XH.jpg :) 13:46:26 <aleth> Aha :) 13:46:47 <aleth> Some of the icons in the picture don't match those we use. 13:46:47 <clokep_work> flo: Where is that IRC icon from? The AIM icon seems wrong. The Twitter icon seems outdated. The MSN icon differs from what we currently use. 13:46:52 <clokep_work> (I.e. I dislike it.) 13:46:54 <flo> and btw, the white background on Tb's image is really really ugly 13:47:00 <flo> someone should tell andreas about it :-P 13:47:42 <FeuerFliege> clokep_work: twitter outdated? 13:47:48 <flo> clokep_work: the twitter icon seems actually to be the *updated* one 13:47:57 <flo> clokep_work: mind pasting your feedback in the bug? 13:47:59 <FeuerFliege> itâs the new bird. 13:48:05 <aleth> We should probably be using that MSN icon (it's newer than ours), but we don't 13:48:53 <flo> clokep_work: the bug = bug 483 13:48:56 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=483 min, --, ---, bugi, ASSI, Instantbird default theme has no preview image 13:50:05 <clokep_work> Is it? It's small, I can't tell. :P 13:50:54 <FeuerFliege> clokep_work: IRC icon is from instantbird.com. Icons for XMPP, Twitter, AIM and MSN are the latest icons. 13:51:08 <aleth> clokep_work: http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/messenger/home 13:51:27 <clokep_work> FeuerFliege: OK, but I dislike that they match the icons we use in Instantbird. 13:51:42 <aleth> Maybe we need a patch to update the MSN icon in IB ;) 13:51:46 <flo> clokep_work: I dislike the IRC icon in instantbird 13:52:03 <flo> and the XMPP icon on ib.com is outdate 13:52:03 <flo> d 13:52:55 <FeuerFliege> The thing I donât know/doubt is if we actually are allowed to use the logos. 13:53:18 <flo> hmm, is it a good idea that the protocol links on the home page link to the official clients? 13:53:25 <flo> maybe we could link all of them to wikipedia pages? :-P 13:53:26 <clokep_work> aleth: Someone filed a bug about that & calling it "Windows Live Messenger", it got marked as WONTFIX. 13:53:42 <clokep_work> flo: I do too. :) 13:53:53 <clokep_work> Maybe I should file a Thunderbird bug about that... 13:53:57 <aleth> I just think we should be consistent... 13:54:09 <flo> clokep_work: yeah, put that on Andreas' plate :-P 13:54:22 <aleth> :) 13:54:24 <flo> "Thunderbird's IRC icon sucks" :-P 13:54:48 <-- aleth has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 13:54:50 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 13:54:50 * ChanServ sets mode +h aleth 13:57:00 <clokep_work> flo: Does Thunderbird also use the "two bubbles" icon that we use to represent a chat/MUC? 13:57:09 <clokep_work> aleth: I agree consistent is good. 13:57:21 <flo> clokep_work: and maybe even for the "Chat" tab! 13:58:10 <aleth> There's a bug somewhere on "too many bubble icons in IRC MUCs" 13:58:43 <clokep_work> Yes. 14:00:23 <clokep_work> (aleth Btw I marked the MSN --> WLM as WONTFIX because it's inherited from "upstream".) 14:01:06 <aleth> (clokep_work I was just thinking that maybe if/when someone writes MSN-XMPP would be a good time to switch the icon) 14:02:22 <clokep_work> Yes. :) 14:02:30 <clokep_work> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=769256 14:21:16 --> FireFly_TB has joined #instantbird 14:27:09 --> devfil has joined #instantbird 14:35:40 <-- Tomek has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.1) 14:36:18 <-- aleth has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 14:36:21 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 14:36:21 * ChanServ sets mode +h aleth 14:38:44 <-- aleth has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 14:38:47 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 14:38:47 * ChanServ sets mode +h aleth 14:40:49 <-- aleth has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 14:40:52 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 14:40:53 * ChanServ sets mode +h aleth 14:41:17 --> mmkmou has joined #instantbird 14:43:23 --> igorko has joined #instantbird 14:43:33 <-- aleth has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 14:43:34 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 14:43:34 * ChanServ sets mode +h aleth 14:45:01 <-- wesj has quit (Input/output error) 14:45:04 --> wesj has joined #instantbird 15:00:57 <-- Optimizer has quit (Ping timeout) 15:04:20 --> Optimizer has joined #instantbird 15:16:51 <-- Optimizer has quit (Ping timeout) 15:18:21 <flo> is "OMG" part of the AIM brand now? :-S 15:20:40 --> Optimizer has joined #instantbird 15:22:02 <-- igorko has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 15:24:35 <clokep_work> Where'd that come from? 15:26:29 <flo> clokep_work: I was just looking at http://www.aim.com/ 15:26:49 <flo> "aim OMG since 1997", and "OMG" is present too on the right column 15:27:30 <-- barlas has quit (Client exited) 15:28:16 --> wnayes has joined #instantbird 15:34:50 <-- aleth has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 15:34:52 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 15:34:52 * ChanServ sets mode +h aleth 15:35:04 <clokep_work> (o_O) Weird. 15:36:51 <aleth> I hope it's not OMG^(TM) 15:37:01 <-- aleth has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 15:37:02 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 15:37:03 * ChanServ sets mode +h aleth 15:37:09 <flo> aleth: that would be fun ;) 15:39:00 <-- aleth has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 15:39:02 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 15:39:02 * ChanServ sets mode +h aleth 15:41:38 <-- aleth has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 15:41:40 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 15:41:41 * ChanServ sets mode +h aleth 15:45:03 <-- gerard-majax has quit (Ping timeout) 15:55:27 <wnayes> I was thinking these few days before the vacations would be a good time to discuss either the log importing or UI (so during that time I can work on that or the remaining importer code) 15:56:24 <-- aleth has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 15:56:25 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 15:56:26 * ChanServ sets mode +h aleth 15:57:58 <-- aleth has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 15:58:01 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 15:58:01 * ChanServ sets mode +h aleth 15:58:55 <flo> wnayes: vacations could be in half an hour for me ;) 16:01:36 <-- aleth has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 16:01:38 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 16:01:38 * ChanServ sets mode +h aleth 16:02:18 <wnayes> flo: Ah ok :) I think I have a good idea about how to structure the existing interfaces to allow log importing; not sure about making the task suspend-able. 16:03:14 <flo> wnayes: I will likely still be online until tomorrow evening though, so I may still send some feedback. But don't expect me to be in front of the computer the whole day (I'll be fixing the AMI :)) 16:03:33 <wnayes> I was thinking the basic thing necessary would be a "importAccount(aExistingAccount)" in each importer, which would perform the tasks of actually moving in data after the wizard creates the accounts. 16:03:49 --> krishna has joined #instantbird 16:06:25 <wnayes> Maybe something like "web workers" could be useful for scheduling the tasks? 16:06:39 <-- aleth has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 16:06:46 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 16:06:46 * ChanServ sets mode +h aleth 16:07:36 <-- aleth has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 16:07:38 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 16:07:38 * ChanServ sets mode +h aleth 16:07:52 <-- aleth has quit (Input/output error) 16:12:29 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 16:12:29 * ChanServ sets mode +h aleth 16:12:49 <-- aleth has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 16:12:51 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 16:12:51 * ChanServ sets mode +h aleth 16:18:35 <-- krishna has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88.2 [Firefox 13.0.1/20120615064004]) 16:20:52 <-- FireFly_TB has quit (Quit: FireFly_TB) 16:20:52 <-- FeuerFliege has quit (Connection reset by peer) 16:26:02 <flo> hg convert is slow on large repositories :( 16:26:36 <flo> I'm converting comm-central to keep only chat/ so that I see what the recent chat check-ins are, and so that I can hg export | hg import - in the ib repository :) 16:31:31 <-- aleth has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 16:31:33 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 16:31:33 * ChanServ sets mode +h aleth 16:36:12 <-- aleth has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 16:36:13 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 16:36:13 * ChanServ sets mode +h aleth 16:43:14 <-- aleth has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 16:43:16 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 16:43:16 * ChanServ sets mode +h aleth 16:43:40 --> eson57 has joined #instantbird 16:45:07 --> sonny has joined #instantbird 16:46:00 <-- sonny has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 16:50:44 <instantbot> florian@instantbird.org set the Resolution field on bug 1552 to FIXED. 16:50:47 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1552 min, --, 1.2, clokep, RESO FIXED, Handle 329: RPL_CREATIONTIME 16:53:34 <clokep_work> Thanks flo. :) 16:53:42 <flo> bah, I forgot to remove the whiteboard annotation, thanks clokep_work :) 16:54:16 --> Mook_as has joined #instantbird 16:56:36 <clokep_work> No problem. 16:56:50 <clokep_work> flo: If you want to override aleth's r-, I think you could check in my whowas patch too. :) 16:57:14 <clokep_work> (I really can't think of a better help string for that...) 16:57:14 <aleth> Or I can r+ it (we discussed it on IRC) :) 16:57:15 <flo> are aleth's r- overridable? :-O 16:57:38 <clokep_work> Yeah, I tried to think of a better string. BUt i think the one we have is applicable enough. 16:57:55 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/e382a55d9049 - Patrick Cloke - Bug 1552 - Handle 329: RPL_CREATIONTIME, r=aleth. 16:57:56 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/29e15c46ac9b - Andreas Nilsson - Bug 768525 - Update the twitter logo, ui-r=bwinton, rs=clokep. 16:57:57 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/3f354c97cdd7 - Florian Quèze - Bug 754824 - The highlight is off by a few characters in the search result view when some characters are UTF8 encoded on 4 bytes - Follow-up to only match UTF-16 surrogate 16:57:58 <instantbot> halves, r=asuth. 16:57:59 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/edbd4a66bdf5 - Florian Quèze - Bug 755718 - There should be an audible notification when new messages are received on IRC - add a new-directed-incoming-message notification, r=clokep. 16:58:11 <flo> aleth: "Or I can r+ it (we discussed it on IRC) :)" sounds like a better plan ;) 16:58:42 <instantbot> aletheia2@fastmail.fm granted review for attachment 1708 on bug 1551. 16:58:44 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1551 min, --, ---, clokep, ASSI, Remove whowas command, duplicate of whois 17:00:19 <clokep_work> Doesn't http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/edbd4a66bdf5 need Instantbird changes too? 17:00:29 <flo> "need" no 17:00:48 <flo> we can do some cleanup as a result of it 17:00:49 <flo> :) 17:01:50 <aleth> Is there a nicer sound file we can adapt as well? not that I ever use sounds... 17:02:27 <instantbot> New Instantbird (UI) bug 1560 filed by florian@instantbird.org. 17:02:29 <flo> and I promised I would file a bug for that, so here it is :) 17:02:30 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1560 tri, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Take advantage of the new new-directed-incoming-message notification to cleanup some code 17:02:35 --> myk has joined #instantbird 17:02:58 <clokep_work> Thanks! :) 17:03:01 * clokep_work was going to do it. 17:03:31 <-- myk has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 17:04:08 --> myk has joined #instantbird 17:04:38 <flo> clokep_work: yeah, I had to hurry up to file it before you; I suspected you were about to do it, and I said *I* would do it ;) 17:12:57 <instantbot> florian@instantbird.org set the Resolution field on bug 1551 to FIXED. 17:13:01 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1551 min, --, 1.2, clokep, RESO FIXED, Remove whowas command, duplicate of whois 17:13:30 <clokep_work> :) 17:13:35 <clokep_work> Thanks for checking that in too! 17:13:39 <clokep_work> My bug queue is reducing dramatically. ;) 17:17:57 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/7bab3908b1bd - Patrick Cloke - Bug 1551 - Remove whowas command, duplicate of whois, r=aleth. 17:19:11 <aleth> clokep_work: super-minor bug: there's a missing closing parens in the /wallops help message 17:19:25 <clokep_work> aleth: Does the /wallops command do anything? ;) 17:19:36 <aleth> no idea - I have no use for it. 17:20:18 <clokep_work> aleth: Yeah we need to just rewrite that help message anyway and not inherit libpurple's pretentious one. 17:20:30 <aleth> Pretty much. 17:20:51 <clokep_work> Good catch though. :) 17:21:02 <aleth> Was just curious what it was for... 17:22:49 <clokep_work> aleth: http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2812#section-4.7 17:24:41 <instantbot> New Core - IRC bug 1561 filed by clokep@gmail.com. 17:24:46 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1561 tri, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Remove libpurple's pretentious /wallops help message 17:25:31 * clokep_work thinks removing the command might make more sense... 17:25:40 <clokep_work> (But I really wanted to file the bug that way...) 17:25:52 <aleth> I am trying to come up with a use case... 17:26:07 * aleth sets his mode +w and listens in 17:27:55 <clokep_work> No one sends wallops.. 17:32:27 * clokep_work would r+ a patch removing it. ;) 17:41:14 <-- eson57 has left #instantbird () 17:49:24 <flo> Good evening :) 17:49:26 <-- flo has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 17:56:50 --> DGMurdockIII has joined #instantbird 17:59:54 --> Mnyromyr has joined #instantbird 18:02:22 <-- mmkmou has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 18:03:50 --> Tomek has joined #instantbird 18:34:54 --> sonny has joined #instantbird 18:47:23 --> gerard-majax has joined #instantbird 19:00:52 --> Lalae has joined #instantbird 19:01:07 <-- Lalae has left #instantbird () 19:16:49 <-- DGMurdockIII has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88.2 [Firefox 13.0.1/20120614114901]) 19:21:21 <-- devfil has quit (Client exited) 19:23:21 <-- wnayes has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 19:26:33 <-- chrisccoulson has quit (Quit: Ex-Chat) 19:27:13 --> wnayes has joined #instantbird 19:28:05 --> chrisccoulson has joined #instantbird 19:30:02 <-- chrisccoulson has quit (Quit: Ex-Chat) 19:31:19 --> chrisccoulson has joined #instantbird 19:46:51 <-- Optimizer has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 19:55:12 <-- sonny has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 20:19:01 <-- myk has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 20:19:06 --> myk has joined #instantbird 20:30:46 <-- gerard-majax has quit (Ping timeout) 20:44:05 <-- aleth has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 20:44:09 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 20:44:09 * ChanServ sets mode +h aleth 20:45:46 <-- clokep_work has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 20:46:21 --> Kaishi has joined #instantbird 20:46:24 <-- aleth has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 20:46:26 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 20:46:26 * ChanServ sets mode +h aleth 20:49:13 --> EionRobb has joined #instantbird 20:53:09 --> igorko has joined #instantbird 21:08:27 <-- meh has quit (Quit: reboot) 21:11:00 --> meh has joined #instantbird 21:26:14 <-- aleth has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 21:26:15 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 21:26:15 * ChanServ sets mode +h aleth 21:27:09 <-- aleth has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 21:27:11 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 21:27:11 * ChanServ sets mode +h aleth 21:36:57 <-- aleth has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 21:36:59 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 21:36:59 * ChanServ sets mode +h aleth 21:42:20 <-- aleth has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 21:42:23 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 21:42:24 * ChanServ sets mode +h aleth 21:50:36 <-- Tomek has quit (Ping timeout) 22:00:33 <-- Mnyromyr has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [SeaMonkey 1.1.19/2010030105]) 22:05:55 <-- aleth has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 22:05:57 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 22:05:57 * ChanServ sets mode +h aleth 22:09:56 <-- aleth has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 22:09:57 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 22:09:57 * ChanServ sets mode +h aleth 22:20:24 <-- igorko has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 22:25:10 --> flo has joined #instantbird 22:25:10 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo flo 22:25:51 <-- aleth has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 22:25:54 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 22:25:54 * ChanServ sets mode +h aleth 22:27:54 <-- aleth has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 22:27:57 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 22:27:57 * ChanServ sets mode +h aleth 22:31:05 <-- meh has quit (Ping timeout) 22:31:26 --> meh has joined #instantbird 22:32:40 <wnayes> It looks like I will need to use the blowfish cipher for the AIM importer. Is there anything existing for me to use (haven't found it yet if so, at least in a MPL license) or should I try to write my own implementation? 22:34:18 <-- wnayes has quit (Connection reset by peer) 22:34:40 --> wnayes has joined #instantbird 22:37:16 <Mook_as> since you like it, js-ctypes/nss? 22:37:40 <flo> Mook_as: isn't it scriptable already? 22:38:14 <Mook_as> nss? heck no. security/manager/ is the xpcom wrapper, but it often has holes 22:43:41 <-- aleth has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 22:43:44 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 22:43:44 * ChanServ sets mode +h aleth 22:47:29 <wnayes> Hmm, I'm not sure what would be better in that case- a new JS implementation or more js-ctypes. 22:48:01 <-- aleth has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 22:48:04 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 22:48:04 * ChanServ sets mode +h aleth 22:50:38 <Mook_as> google finds a cc-by-nc-sa 3.0 impl, which... probably isn't useful fro you. 22:59:08 <-- aleth has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 22:59:11 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 22:59:11 * ChanServ sets mode +h aleth 23:00:00 --> Tomek has joined #instantbird 23:07:32 <-- aleth has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 23:07:33 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 23:07:33 * ChanServ sets mode +h aleth 23:10:00 <wnayes> It's difficult to find anything about nss, I don't see Blowfish on this list either: http://www.mozilla.org/projects/security/pki/nss/algorithms.html 23:13:32 <Mook_as> hmm, it's possible (... and likely) that I'm mistaken, and it doesn't actually implement blowfish 23:14:52 <wnayes> There's just a handful of references to it (ex: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/security/nss/lib/util/pkcs11t.h#426) 23:44:17 <-- aleth has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 23:44:20 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 23:44:20 * ChanServ sets mode +h aleth 23:48:07 <-- aleth has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 23:48:09 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 23:48:09 * ChanServ sets mode +h aleth