#instantbird log on 05 27 2012

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01:13:05 <instantbot> mook.moz+bugs.instantbird@gmail.com cancelled review?(mook.moz+bugs.insta ntbird@gmail.com) for attachment 1531 on bug 944.
01:13:08 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=944 enh, --, ---, clokep, ASSI, Support for Bonjour
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02:09:20 <Adamodell> So, weirdest issue ever. I got an FB username, I got Facebook Chat working yesterday in Instantbird for the second time in my life, but today for some reason, today I noticed problems
02:09:37 <Adamodell> It seems all messages sent from Instantbird aren't going through to the Facebook user at all
02:09:52 <Adamodell> It's worked before
02:10:04 <Adamodell> I do receive messages sent to me, however.
02:10:11 <Adamodell> It's just the outgoing that doesn't work
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02:10:42 <Adamodell> I've authorized it, obviously
02:10:58 <Adamodell> it has no problem detecting who's "online"
02:11:04 <Adamodell> it has no problem receiving messages
02:11:22 <Adamodell> I don't think it's an Instantbird or a libpurple problem
02:11:27 <Adamodell> I'm tempted to say FB are messing under the hood again
02:11:35 <Adamodell> or something specific with my account
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02:20:28 <Adamodell> someone seems to think it might be my fullblown app blocking, I don't know what FB considers an app but I'm gonna give it a shot
02:20:29 <Adamodell> haha
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04:27:25 <instant-buildbot> build #601 of win32-nightly-default is complete: Success [build successful]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/win32-nightly-default/builds/601
04:44:22 <instant-buildbot> build #508 of linux-nightly-default is complete: Failure [failed shell_3]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/linux-nightly-default/builds/508
04:58:45 <Mook> ---^ failed to upload nightly, boring.
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18:10:05 <aleth> Nice, no more hangs on startup :)
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19:25:11 <FeuerFliege> aleth: I’ve noticed that, too.
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21:04:32 <instantbot> aletheia2@fastmail.fm requested review from florian@instantbird .org for attachment 1532 on bug 1463.
21:04:34 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1463 enh, --, ---, aletheia2, ASSI, [Tab complete] List possible completions only on second tab press when pinged
21:07:54 <instantbot> aletheia2@fastmail.fm cancelled review?(florian@instantbird .org) for attachment 1532 on bug 1463.
21:07:55 <instantbot> aletheia2@fastmail.fm requested review from florian@instantbird .org for attachment 1533 on bug 1463.
21:07:56 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1463 enh, --, ---, aletheia2, ASSI, [Tab complete] List possible completions only on second tab press when pinged
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21:13:05 <flo> aleth: I disagree with "for a list of length one, we don't show the list of completions anyway"
21:13:50 <flo> just tested it on a channel where arno is active and alexis is not by pressing a<tab> and seeing the list of the two possible completions
21:14:15 <aleth> flo: We must be meaning different things: http://lxr.instantbird.org/instantbird/source/instantbird/content/conversation.xml#717
21:14:40 <aleth> Your case seems to have 2 possible completions
21:15:08 <flo> yes, but only one active nick, so it's completed immediately
21:15:57 <aleth> Right, my bad.
21:16:28 <aleth> No problem, I didn't special case any preferred nicks anyway.
21:16:53 <flo> I suspect I'm seeing that case (replying to the only active nick) at least as frequently as replying to someone who has pinged me.
21:17:14 <flo> yeah, the code in the patch looks like it would work well for both situations
21:17:32 <aleth> It was meant to keep working whatever is added as a source of preferredNick ;)
21:18:01 <aleth> Even things which have already been added but the coder forgot about already :P
21:18:22 <flo> ahah :)
21:18:42 <flo> those are the things that work so well that we don't need to know them anymore ;)
21:18:42 <aleth> flo: I suspect on large channels like #developers that would happen all the time, yes
21:19:06 <flo> I like it a lot when I can forget how some piece of code I wrote works, and just use it, and it just works :)
21:19:09 <aleth> :)
21:23:26 <aleth> Just saw in the logs the suggestion of showing the list of completions as part of the UI rather than in a system message. I agree that would be ideal, but I don't like the status bar idea. 
21:24:09 <flo> the status bar won't stay forever anyway ;)
21:24:25 <aleth> I hope so :)
21:26:50 <instantbot> florian@instantbird.org granted review for attachment 1533 on bug 1463.
21:26:53 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1463 enh, --, ---, aletheia2, ASSI, [Tab complete] List possible completions only on second tab press when pinged
21:27:21 <aleth> Have you had a chance to test that modified unread ruler behaviour patch?
21:27:49 <aleth> If you think it roughly feels right, it would probably benefit from some stress testing in nightlies
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21:31:51 <aleth> flo: I really like this shot http://queze.net/goinfre/mamie/plage-arriere-20120526/1920/IMG_2197.JPG
21:32:06 <flo> :)
21:32:24 <aleth> Great lighting and reflections...
21:32:45 <flo> I hesitate between putting it as a desktop wallpaper (but I rarely see it anyway, as there are always have a dozen of terminals + 2 or 3 IM clients, and a browser or two...
21:32:59 <flo> and putting it on paper on the wall
21:33:41 <aleth> The only time one sees the desktop wallpaper is when booting, really...
21:34:20 <flo> aleth: also when plugging in a new monitor, before moving some of the useful windows to it
21:34:42 <aleth> So basically used as a wallpaper it will be an occasional nice surprise ;)
21:35:11 <flo> but there are several hundred icons of files from the Desktop folder above it when plugging in the monitor
21:35:57 <flo> especially because screenshots taken by the keyboard shortcut end up on the Desktop on Mac, and I frequently take screenshots to show that I'm working on or which bugs I'm seeing
21:40:52 <flo> aleth: I know it's already used as a desktop wallpaper by at least another AMI 6 owner ;)
21:41:42 <aleth> Yeah, lots of little icons would spoil it a bit...
21:44:52 <flo> the desktop on my primary monitor (the one where I see the wallpaper really only when booting; that is once every 2 months on the macbook) http://queze.net/goinfre/desktop.png
21:45:30 <aleth> Heh, spot the AMI ;) Isn't there at least some auto-align option?
21:45:51 <flo> it works only for the first layer
21:46:01 <flo> after that it's a complete mess
21:46:09 <aleth> Ah, that explains it...
21:46:52 <flo> I've meant to do a script moving automatically old files to temporary folders named based on the date of file creation, but it doesn't seem that useful, as I never see the desktop
21:47:29 <aleth> You can't change the default file save location?
21:48:23 <flo> if it could save them in a ssh-based location, that would be awesome ;)
21:48:42 <flo> I'm sure at least 2/3 of the screenshots I take end up either on queze.net/goinfre or imgur.com
21:50:29 <aleth> Yes, I also have a folder full of old screenshots, basically temporary files
21:50:57 <aleth> Hmm, KDE can probably save to a ssh location, actually. Good idea, I might try that sometime
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21:54:03 <flo> the wallpaper I currently have on the secondary screen is http://queze.net/goinfre/mamie/IMG_2512.JPG
21:54:44 <flo> not the complete car, so that it isn't too distracting when trying to work ;)
21:54:58 <aleth> Big AMI is watching you ;)
21:56:38 <flo> it isn't all that big: http://queze.net/goinfre/mamie/plage-arriere-20120526/IMG_2178.JPG ;)
21:56:42 <flo> (another picture taken yesterday)
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22:01:09 <aleth> Either that or the tree is huge ;)
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22:23:38 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/5f8b04383d01 - aleth - Bug 1463 - [Tab complete] List possible completions only on second tab press when pinged, r=fqueze.
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22:35:47 <flo> Good night :)
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23:55:15 <instant-buildbot> build #258 of linux-onCommit is complete: Success [build successful]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/linux-onCommit/builds/258