#instantbird log on 05 10 2012

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01:39:50 <timA> hey all; is there a way to get additional languages in the instantbird spellchecker?
01:40:24 <clokep> Hey timA. I think there is...but I have no idea how to do it. :(
01:40:36 <clokep> (One of the issues with not needing l10n stuff, bah...)
01:40:44 <clokep> Give me a minute? :)
01:43:38 <clokep> timA: Seems like a bunch are listed under https://addons.instantbird.org/en-US/instantbird/browse/type:3 or https://addons.instantbird.org/en-US/instantbird/browse/type:3/cat:9 ?
01:44:08 <timA> clokep: cool, I'll check those out.  Thanks!
01:44:25 <clokep> Install them as you would any other extension!
01:45:42 <clokep> You're welcome. :)
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01:49:09 <clokep> Seeing a this.target is undefined error: http://pastebin.instantbird.com/39560
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01:53:57 <clokep> Can't reproduce. :(
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02:51:47 <instant-buildbot> build #491 of linux-nightly-default is complete: Success [build successful]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/linux-nightly-default/builds/491
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04:35:57 <instant-buildbot> build #585 of win32-nightly-default is complete: Success [build successful]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/win32-nightly-default/builds/585
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06:03:15 <instant-buildbot> build #478 of macosx-nightly-default is complete: Success [build successful]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/macosx-nightly-default/builds/478
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10:24:58 <clokep> Does anyone know if https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=753691 still happens? I couldn't reproduce it.
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10:33:11 <clokep> Ah I think bug 1314 fixed it?
10:33:15 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1314 min, --, 1.2, aletheia2, RESO FIXED, Own nickname (for pings) detection broken
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12:49:40 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/a4239e7f3c43 - Jim Porter - Bug 747800 - Fix code causing |Warning: function xyz does not always return a value|; r=standard8
12:49:42 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/75c2eefc3abd - Florian Quèze - Adapt imTextboxUtils.jsm (with ifdefs) to use the Thunderbird specific spellchecker preference when built for Thunderbird, r=clokep.
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13:06:12 * clokep_work doesn't understand why people comment on 1 year old blog posts... :-S
13:06:35 * flo would like all blog post comments to go to a mailing list
13:09:51 <clokep_work> I think we did find a plug-in to email it out to everyone w/ an account on WordPress, but I didn't install it.
13:11:09 <flo> is the new comment about the invisible status? :)
13:11:13 <flo> or file transfer? :)
13:11:45 <flo> I'm trying to find an hg incantation that would let me export all changes to chat/ in a way that can be imported into comm-central
13:12:53 <clokep_work> Any luck? :)
13:13:00 <clokep_work> It's on http://blog.instantbird.org/2011/01/status-update-november-2010-january-2011/comment-page-1/#comment-1519
13:13:34 <flo> hg log -p doesn't give the right headers for hg import (ie I lose commit messages and changeset authors), and hg export exports the whole changesets, including changes outside of the chat/ folder
13:14:35 <flo> clokep_work: it's probably the reason why lots of blogs close comments after a few days
13:23:05 <flo> clokep_work: it seems there are 32 changesets to port :-S
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13:32:14 <flo> creating first a new hg repository containing only chat/ with hg convert can help I guess
13:33:55 <clokep_work> flo: hg export is the proper command I believe.
13:34:05 <clokep_work> Ah, I see. I should have read the second half of that statement. :)
13:34:38 <flo> now I'm looking for a way to remove from the export the changesets that already exist in comm-central
13:34:49 <flo> but there are only 4 of them, so I may do it by hand
13:34:54 <flo> (as much as I dislike that solution)
13:35:20 <flo> I'm also wondering if some of the changes to convbrowser.xml require change to Tb's imconversation.xml
13:35:36 <flo> aleth: ^^ Do you remember if any of your changes to convbrowser.xml also required changes to conversation.xml?
13:36:27 <flo> there are lots of changes to conversation.xml, but most aren't required for Tb, as they are tab complete changes
13:37:28 <clokep_work> Does Tb not tab complete? :-S
13:37:48 <clokep_work> flo: Yes, I wonder if we should close blog comments after a week or so.
13:38:17 <flo> clokep_work: it does.
13:38:53 <flo> But the code is entirely in the conversation binding that isn't shared (it's forked)
13:39:02 <flo> so I don't care for syncing chat/
13:39:15 <clokep_work> Ah, I see.
13:39:17 <flo> (I do wish that code was in a separate JS module in chat/ though)
13:39:40 <clokep_work> Honestly, if it's just a matter of adding xpcshell tests + keeping it in sync with c-c, I think those are good enough reasons to move it out.
13:40:07 <flo> it will require some work and some new APIs I think ;)
13:41:50 <clokep_work> I think so, but it's worth filing a bug / investigating.
13:50:52 <aleth> flo: I don't think so (there will be an added parameter to appendMessage, but I don't think that will break anything as it will just be false if not supplied). But hard to say without seeing all the changes
13:51:20 <aleth> This manual synchronisation sounds painful :-/
13:53:11 <flo> after attempting to import all the changes made to ib's chat/, I still have these differences between the two: http://pastebin.instantbird.com/39720
13:53:54 <flo> it seems we should just take the change to chat/modules/Makefile.in
13:54:31 <flo> have we filed an "update to mozilla12" bug?
13:55:07 <clokep_work> There might be one.
13:55:08 <flo> bug 1344 was in preparation for that update
13:55:11 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1344 nor, --, 1.2, florian, RESO FIXED, stop using XPCOM proxies in purpleSockets
13:55:17 <flo> but not marked as blocking anything
13:56:27 <flo> the other 2 changes require mozilla12
13:59:23 <flo> bug 1390
13:59:26 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1390 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Update to Gecko 12
14:05:30 <clokep_work> Ah-ha. :)
14:05:50 <clokep_work> I didn't know we were using the DOM Parser in imContentSink...
14:05:55 <clokep_work> (Well Thunderbird.)
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14:08:33 <flo> clokep_work: it's cleaner
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14:08:59 <clokep_work> I agree. :) I'm happy about the change.
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14:45:56 * flo doesn't feel productive at all when working on things like https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=753782
14:46:21 <flo> (reverting changes made by others that broke things)
14:47:22 <aleth> Don't you or clokep have to review such changes? :-/
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14:47:35 <flo> aleth: it's not in chat/
14:48:15 <flo> aleth: I'm not going to complain too loudly because the author of the patch did think of CC'ing me in the bug where he made that change ;)
14:48:15 <aleth> Ah, right. Maybe they should extend you the same for /mail/components/im/ ...
14:55:39 <clokep_work> Bleh I don't want that responsibility. :P
14:55:53 <flo> why would you want that? :)
14:59:32 <flo> so out of the 32 changesets that I want to port to Thunderbird, 1 has no review, and 5 only have r=aleth
15:00:32 <clokep_work> flo: Any that I didn't write I can review.
15:00:52 <flo> I was wondering if we need to request that aleth become a peer of the chat/ module
15:01:02 <flo> or can I just decide that as the owner?
15:01:03 <clokep_work> Ah, that would work too. :)
15:01:17 <clokep_work> Can't you "designate another reviewer" to review a patch in your stead anyway?
15:01:44 * clokep_work thought he read that somewhere...
15:01:57 <flo> with a new policy that I saw was discussed (not sure if it ever entered into effect), owner and peers can request review from anybody
15:03:05 <flo> The patches that only have r=aleth are https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=1306%2C1326%2C1305%2C1378%2C1418
15:04:00 <clokep_work> Ah, all IRC stuff. :) That's what I figured.
15:05:09 <clokep_work> r=me? ;)
15:05:59 <flo> given that I commented about the code in 1305 and 1418, I can realistically add "florian" to the list of reviewers for these two
15:06:06 <flo> but I haven't said anything in the other bugs
15:06:36 * flo will ask in comm-central
15:06:37 <flo> err
15:06:40 <flo> #maildev
15:12:19 <clokep_work> What's the one w/o any review?
15:12:30 <flo> clokep_work: you'll r+ it :-P
15:12:51 <flo> the one without review is http://pastebin.instantbird.com/39747
15:14:26 <clokep_work> flo: r+ :)
15:14:39 <flo> it's trivial ;)
15:14:45 <flo> I need to change the commit message though :)
15:15:43 <flo> "Bug 1284 - Fix a comment in prplIProtocol.idl mentioning PR_TRUE and PR_FALSE values, r=clokep." ? :)
15:16:06 <clokep_work> Yes. :)
15:17:51 <clokep_work> r+ on the commit message? :P
15:18:14 <flo> I would need a second commit to put that flag ;)
15:21:38 <clokep_work> :P Right.
15:21:45 <clokep_work> Doesn't seem anyone knows in #maildev. :(
15:23:21 <flo> I think only bienvenu and Standard8 can give an authoritative reply, and bienvenu isn't around
15:23:29 <flo> s/reply/answer/
15:23:44 <flo> I'm filing a bug and summarizing all my questions there
15:24:26 <flo> bienvenu is in vacations today and tomorrow
15:25:21 <clokep_work> Ah, right. :)
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16:11:39 * clokep_work thought there was another bug in BMO that we fixed already in Instantbird. :-S
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16:17:19 <flo> clokep_work: there's also https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=740451
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18:21:07 <deOmega1> hi.  i have started using the two step verification process for my google acount
18:21:33 <deOmega1> which means,   i am given a code to long into messengers etc, as opposed to a real password
18:22:18 <deOmega1> i do not know if it coincides with that or not, but I have been noticing that  some of my contacts are missing on some lanch of IB and i have to relaunch it to get them back
18:22:40 <clokep_work> deOmega1: Did you set up Instantbird with a app specific password?
18:22:46 <deOmega1> yes
18:22:51 <clokep_work> Then it shouldn't matter.
18:23:02 <clokep_work> Are you on Instantbird 1.1?
18:23:11 <deOmega1> great, then something is going on it seems then.  let me check
18:23:30 <deOmega1> version 1.2a1pre (20120510041539)
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18:23:58 <clokep_work> No errors in the error console I 'sume?
18:24:16 <deOmega1> i always have erro  there. let me see what is there
18:25:01 <deOmega1> hmm, there are  a number of them  for today
18:27:48 <deOmega1> http://pastebin.com/2Zi6zPiD
18:28:24 <deOmega1> I think or i am thinking teh contact status error is because i have disabled the status thing
18:28:34 <clokep_work> The first two are from extensions.
18:28:52 <clokep_work> The third one I've seen but couldn't track it down...
18:28:55 <clokep_work> But probably isn't related.
18:30:36 <deOmega1> to clarify what was happening..
18:31:05 <deOmega1> i did not see a buddy online but I know he is online, so i called him  up to tell him send me amessage.. and it came through as if he is online
18:31:12 <deOmega1> but I still was ot seeing him online
18:32:25 <clokep_work> When his IM showed up, was the conversation window showing him as online (i.e. the contact list didn't show him, but the conversation status showed him as online.)
18:32:41 <deOmega1> yes
18:32:53 <deOmega1> he had a green dot next to his name
18:33:08 <clokep_work> Bleh. Are you on an up to date nightly? Like within the past few months?
18:33:15 <clokep_work> THere was a bunch of bugs about this that we fixed a long long time ago.
18:34:23 <deOmega1> i update the nghgtlies every night
18:34:26 <deOmega1> every morning
18:34:36 <deOmega1> so i am using  the update from today-- or last night
18:35:45 <clokep_work> Just making sure. :)
18:36:11 <clokep_work> I'm not really sure what could do that then, flo is more familiar with the XMPP code though.
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18:37:07 <deOmega1> ok, no problem
18:37:21 <deOmega1> i have to step awy for a moment
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18:43:31 <clokep_work> Alright. :)
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19:18:37 <flo> how many of the strange bugs do you think could be traced back to the same root cause? :)
19:19:32 <flo> I'm wondering if the timeout that don't work, the connections that are impossible until we restart necko, the SSL issue on freenode, the oauth dialog sometimes not showing up for Thunderbird, etc... could be the same thing
19:20:38 <flo> I would like to know if it's possible to reconnect to freenode after switching necko to offline and back online
19:20:39 <flo> and I wonder if it's all sockets that don't work anymore, or if it's just the SSL connections that don't work
19:21:31 <clokep_work> flo: I've been wondering the same thing.
19:21:34 <aleth> Do all these only happen for JS protos?
19:21:36 <clokep_work> I meant to test the freenode thing. :(
19:21:44 <clokep_work> No.
19:21:49 <clokep_work> Someone ping me about that later? :P
19:22:05 <Mook_as> clokep: ping
19:22:15 <Mook_as> (it is now later. slightly.)
19:22:32 <clokep_work> Mook_as: At least you didn't /actually/ ping me...
19:22:44 <clokep_work> (So kind of off topic...) But anyone have opinions on a PHP framework to use?
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19:23:04 <Mook_as> rails? django? :p
19:23:33 * clokep_work doesn't like Python.
19:23:44 <clokep_work> And I don't think I've ever seen Ruby.
19:24:02 * flo has just received 9 messages at the same second, and doesn't really believe they could have been typed that quickly
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19:25:01 <flo> clokep_work: by the way, I've found the cause of a strange IRC regression that really annoyed me several times :)
19:25:08 <clokep_work> Maybe I should just bite the bullet and learn Python though...
19:25:11 <clokep_work> flo: What regression is this?
19:25:30 <flo> clokep_work: accounts getting disconnected without errors, and so not reconnecting
19:25:39 <clokep_work> Ah. What is it?
19:25:49 <flo> it happens when the server sends us something like "ERROR :Closing Link: [<your IP>] (Ping timeout)"
19:25:53 <clokep_work> I filed that bug about reconnection stuff but haven't gotten a chance to look too deeply into it. :(
19:25:55 <flo> the code at http://lxr.instantbird.org/instantbird/source/chat/protocols/irc/ircBase.jsm#211 sucks
19:26:16 <clokep_work> Ugh...
19:26:19 <flo> if we haven't sent the quit command before receiving that, it is an error
19:26:23 <clokep_work> It needs to check if we think we're offline first.
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19:26:32 <clokep_work> (Or rather if we're disconnecting.)
19:27:23 <flo> clokep_work: well that's 2 different cases. If we think we are offline, there shouldn't be any timer, we should just drop the socket and claim the account is disconnected immediately. (that's the bug we have discussed before)
19:27:41 <flo> the case I'm mentioning today is when we have an extremely sucky/laggy connection, and the server decides we have timed out, and tells us about it
19:28:18 <clokep_work> Yes, if we think we're connected but receive that we need to go into an error state.
19:28:28 <clokep_work> Want to add that to the bug? (Or just fix it. :P)
19:28:32 <flo> and auto-reconnect
19:28:48 <flo> if you give me the bug number, I can add a comment, yes :)
19:29:14 * flo was about to file another bug, as it's a different issue; but if you want to fix both in the same bug, that's fine with me
19:29:50 <clokep_work> Then file a new bug, I know you'll review that one fast at least. ;)
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19:30:36 <flo> they both greatly annoy me, so both are likely to receive fast reviews :)
19:31:39 <clokep_work> Ah, good to know. I'll finish those ones up sooner rather than later then.
19:32:00 <clokep_work> (bug 1409 is the other one)
19:32:03 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1409 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Handle (dis)connects better in IRC
19:32:07 <clokep_work> I think I have that one mostly finished in my queue actually.
19:32:29 <flo> actually, what really annoys me is having a sucky connection ;)
19:32:31 <flo> during the evening I can only connect through my android phone, and 3G isn't as reliable as I would like it to be...
19:34:05 <clokep_work> :( Yeah, that's kind of annoying. Is that just until you move again?
19:34:05 <flo> but we need to hurry up to fix all the bugs visible only with poor connections, because I hope I'll have a great connection once I move to my house ;)
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19:35:54 <flo> the building where I currently sleep during the week days has some (stupidly expensive) wifi available, but from what I've heard, it's even worse than what I have with my 3G connection from the phone
19:36:46 <flo> so do you want a new bug, or a comment in the existing bug?
19:37:00 <flo> that bug already covers several different issues
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19:37:58 <clokep_work> New bug ! :)
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19:40:31 <Mic> Good evening
19:41:04 <flo> ok. I was about to press "commit" on the comment I've written ;)
19:41:23 <clokep_work> Haha. As long as it ends up in Bugzilla some how...I don't care too much. :)
19:41:35 <clokep_work> Can I ransom off reviews from you in exchange for fixing that? :P
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19:53:03 <aleth> flo's connection really is flaky... :-/
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19:56:18 <flo> let's see if rebooting the phone helps
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20:02:13 <flo> oh, it seems I've managed to post the comment, finally! :)
20:02:27 <flo> I gave up the idea of the new bug, the enter_bug form is still not loaded :-/
20:04:02 <clokep_work> That's fine.
20:04:06 <clokep_work> I'll try to get that done tonight.
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20:08:46 <flo> so, before appearing disconnected, but after my "ping timeout" in instantbot's log, I said:
20:08:47 <flo> 22:05:44 - flo: clokep_work: there's no rush, we've had it for several weeks, another day or two won't kill us ;)
20:08:47 <flo> 22:06:48 - flo: I wonder if "Footer.html and the js inside of Footer.html is not allowed in chrome://messages/skins/ (because of security reasons).", especially "is not allowed" could be a (stupid) AMO policy (talking about https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=740793 that I can't load to comment in it :-/)
20:10:56 <Mook_as> yeah, skin packages can't contain script (that's why XBL won't work, for example)
20:11:07 <Mook_as> it's not an AMO policy, it's a chrome registration one
20:11:15 <Mic> I commented there
20:11:50 <Mook_as> see http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/chrome/src/nsChromeRegistry.cpp#588 for... stuff that's probably boring
20:11:52 <flo> Mook_as: errr... If there was a real issue, our message themes wouldn't work either ;)
20:12:35 <Mook_as> ah, yeah, Mic's comment makes sense (and means the bug is wfm)
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20:12:54 <flo> Mook_as: that AllowScriptsForPackage method seems off topic as we load the file as text, as Mic said
20:13:01 <Mook_as> yep!
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20:27:29 <flo> I give up the idea of doing anything online this evening. I hoped to do some reviews :( (especially the one of wnayes' patch). Good night!
20:27:59 <clokep_work> Goodnight flo. :)
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20:44:55 <aleth> Mic: I think you said a while back you had reviewed bug 1380 - did you forget to mark it?
20:44:59 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1380 min, --, ---, aletheia2, ASSI, Unread ruler confusing when coming back to conversation with no new messages
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