#instantbird log on 05 08 2012

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00:27:01 <clokep> EionRobb: The major issue with QQ is that we don't support libpurple's (absurd) request API. So captchas don't work
00:28:21 <clokep> flo: Well SIPE is actively developed...so that's a win. :)
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02:55:27 <instant-buildbot> build #489 of linux-nightly-default is complete: Success [build successful]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/linux-nightly-default/builds/489
04:46:24 <instant-buildbot> build #583 of win32-nightly-default is complete: Success [build successful]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/win32-nightly-default/builds/583
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06:03:09 <instant-buildbot> build #476 of macosx-nightly-default is complete: Success [build successful]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/macosx-nightly-default/builds/476
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07:01:49 <Mic> Good morning.
07:02:22 <FeuerFliege> Moin!
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08:15:24 <Mic> Ah, they want to package the Addon-SDK with Firefox later this year. I guess that means that finally 5-line Add-on-SDK-add-ons won't be over 9000 Jiggabytes in size anymore ;)
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10:38:35 <instantbot> clokep@gmail.com requested review from florian@instantbird .org for attachment 1454 on bug 318.
10:38:37 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=318 enh, --, ---, clokep, ASSI, Check if topic on IRC channels is editable and make UI respond accordingly
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12:16:54 <clokep_work> Does bubbles have a "Dark" variant?
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12:18:23 <aleth> clokep_work: No, but I think someone requested we make one at some point...
12:18:23 <Mic> clokep_work: no.
12:18:40 <clokep_work> Ah, OK. Thanks. :)
12:18:43 * clokep_work was replying to bug 1285.
12:18:46 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1285 enh, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, Transfer "Time Bubbles" features to other message themes
12:19:08 <aleth> Probably not too much work once SVG bubbles are achieved...
12:23:59 <aleth> Isn't bug 578 confirmed and what you mentioned the other day was missing from IB's QQ?
12:24:06 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=578 nor, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, QQ - Hangs when trying to get Captcha from server
12:25:54 <clokep_work> I guess.
12:26:03 <clokep_work> I'm not sure exactly what that bug is about, but I could morph it into what I need. ;)
12:26:12 <aleth> Rename or dupe ;)
12:26:51 <aleth> But it's nice to fix old bugs...
12:30:06 <clokep_work> I confirmed it.
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12:56:20 <clokep_work> aleth: Here's a start for you http://mxr.mozilla.org/comm-central/source/mozilla/extensions/irc/xul/content/networks.js#9 ;)
12:58:29 <aleth> clokep_work: Hey, check out the port listings for freenode 
13:00:45 <aleth> Wasn't there some SSL issue reported which I could only reproduce when not using port 7000?
13:02:08 <clokep_work> There's an SSL issue, but they say there preferred port is 6697.
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13:04:21 <aleth> I wonder if wnayes would fancy fixing those account wizard issues when he has finished with the protocol selector... ;)
13:08:14 <clokep_work> Perhaps. One thing at a time though. :P
13:09:59 <Mic> I think we should rename (t)his bug btw. The summary could mean just everything.
13:10:11 <aleth> Go ahead :)
13:10:23 <Mic> "Suggest popular protocols during account creation" or something like that.
13:10:50 <aleth> When I filed it it was just to document a problem.
13:11:13 <Mic> Ah, did you? :P
13:11:46 <Mic> OK, to explain this comment: cloke p reported it ;)
13:12:27 * clokep_work is confused.
13:12:29 * aleth thinks we are probably talking about different things, but no matter...
13:13:15 <Mic> Ah, I was talking about bug 1391.
13:13:19 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1391 enh, --, ---, wnayes, ASSI, Simplify account creation wizard
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15:11:22 <clokep_work> Apparently EXI (XML in binary) was ratified...who wants to add it to XMPP? :P
15:19:12 <sonny> AFAIK Nokia is on it
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15:30:55 <clokep_work> sonny: "is on it"?
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15:43:49 <go8765> hello. I have instanbird crush after run. Can anybody help me here please?  http://paste.ubuntu.com/975997/
15:47:08 <clokep_work> go8765: Does the crash reporter come up?
15:47:37 <go8765> hm. sorry. what you mean?
15:48:08 <clokep_work> When Instantbird crashes an error reporting window usually comes up, like Firefox's.
15:48:17 <clokep_work> ALthough if you're on Ubuntu you might not see it...what version of Instantbird is this?
15:48:34 <go8765> night bild
15:48:43 <go8765> i think - last wersion
15:48:56 <go8765> becouse i check then install some updates
15:49:28 <clokep_work> Do you have a really huge buddy list? I mean it's trying to make the database bigger and failing.
15:49:33 <clokep_work> aleth: Any ideas from Linux land?
15:51:14 <go8765> clokep_work: dont think so, becouse all accounts by default disabled
15:52:23 <clokep_work> I'm not sure then. :( Hopefully someone will have some ideas soon.
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16:13:42 <aleth> go8765: Was that really the latest nightly?
16:14:03 <aleth> clokep_work: No... but then I am not on ubuntu either.
16:14:37 <aleth> go8765: (i.e. was it Version 1.2a1pre)
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16:38:42 <go8765> aleth: ye. I download now last version of night build
16:38:47 <go8765> the same pb
16:39:12 <aleth> And you don't have the problem with 1.1? (which you were using a minute ago)
16:39:27 <go8765> *and I have some pb with history reading 
16:39:32 <go8765> aleth: ye
16:39:42 <go8765> i have no pb with stable wersion
16:39:48 <aleth> :(
16:39:53 <go8765> and have with beta few days ago
16:40:02 <go8765> *have no
16:40:09 <aleth> go8765: It would be great if you could file a bug. You are the first to report this...
16:40:30 <aleth> So you usually use the nightly, and let it autoupdate?
16:40:36 <go8765> so what i need to do
16:40:44 <go8765> i have no experience in this
16:41:07 <aleth> To file a bug? Go to http://bugzilla.instantbird.org/
16:41:32 <aleth> You will probably have to open an account first
16:41:49 <aleth> This has the advantage that if we figure out what the problem is or fix it, you will get emailed ;)
16:42:24 <aleth> It is strange because no dramatic changes happened to the IB code in the last few days
16:44:01 <aleth> Do you have a lot of buddies in your contact list?
16:46:29 <clokep_work> Are you almost out of room on your partition? ;)
16:47:08 <aleth> Heh, that would be an explanation :P
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16:49:59 <go8765> hm.. I have some troubles with free space few days ago
16:50:10 <aleth> Yay, they fixed the MDN search bug :)
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16:50:37 <go8765> but now i have free space
16:51:39 <aleth> It may be possible it did some damage to files in your profile? You could try starting the latest Instantbird with a fresh profile and see if the problems go away.
16:51:59 <go8765> in what way?
16:52:39 <go8765> instantbird -no-remote ?
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16:52:53 <aleth> instantbird -P --no-remote
16:53:04 <aleth> Then you can create a new profile in the profile manager
16:53:55 <aleth> (You only need --no-remote if you already have Instantbird running, it creates a second instance)
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16:54:53 <go8765> think - i get the same pb
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16:57:08 <go8765> think - i get the same pb with new profile
16:57:29 <aleth> And you have enough free space? It's not that then.
16:57:48 <go8765> now i have space
16:57:57 <clokep_work> How much space?
16:58:13 <go8765> 400 mb
16:58:16 <go8765> and swap
17:00:44 <aleth> So, I am out of ideas. Please file a bug and maybe someone else can help...
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17:04:28 <instantbot> New Instantbird (UI) bug 1429 filed by go8765@gmail.com.
17:04:30 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1429 cri, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, crush before start
17:05:33 <aleth> Thanks! :) Could you add a comment with your OS details and Instantbird version?
17:05:49 <go8765> i do bug-report right?(its my first, i think)
17:06:01 <go8765> ok
17:06:05 <go8765> i try now
17:06:16 <aleth> Yes, it's fine. But more details will help for someone who wasn't following this conversation.
17:07:07 <aleth> So when you ran instantbird -P, did it show you the profile manager, or did it crash before that appeared?
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17:10:17 <go8765> i add some comments ib bugzilla
17:10:52 <aleth> Thanks go8765 :)
17:23:34 <go8765> anw what about history reading option?
17:23:42 <go8765> it dont work for me too
17:23:53 <go8765> is any soluton?
17:24:03 <go8765> *i
17:29:11 <clokep_work> Can you be a lot more specific?
17:29:26 <clokep_work> What doesn't work? Does it error?
17:29:32 <clokep_work> What are you expecting and what do you see?
17:29:46 <clokep_work> Screenshots might help (you can upload them directly to Bugzilla if there's a bug.)
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17:49:29 <clokep_work> Hey wnayes when are classes / exams done for you?
17:51:51 <wnayes> clokep_work: Finals are Wed - Sat this week, and I'll be back home by Sunday
17:53:35 <clokep_work> Good luck! :)
17:54:06 <wnayes> so the dozen or so days after that are free to work on another bug before the "start coding" day arrives
17:54:16 <wnayes> thanks :)
17:54:51 <clokep_work> Cool! :) Well don't worry about anything until your exams are over.
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18:50:26 <instantbot> aletheia2@fastmail.fm set the Resolution field on bug 1224 to INCOMPLETE.
18:50:29 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1224 nor, --, ---, nobody, RESO INCOMPLETE, 'Unexpected character' syntax error on parsing a tweet
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19:34:08 <instantbot> wnayes@gmail.com requested review from florian@instantbird .org for attachment 1455 on bug 1391.
19:34:10 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1391 enh, --, ---, wnayes, ASSI, Suggest popular protocols during account creation
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22:53:53 <flo> hello :)
22:55:51 <clokep> Good evening flo!
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23:15:54 <flo> I've just looked the backlog (was offline today because my drama club's show/play was today :)). There's already another report about setGrowthIncrement throwing in BMO. No clear explanation of why there either.
23:16:35 <flo> I'm not sure if we will want wnayes to work on another bug in the next week, or to start thinking about the UX for his summer project.
23:21:53 <clokep> Ah, sounds like a fun day!
23:22:03 <clokep> I didn't remember another bug about setGrowthIncrement. :(
23:25:18 <flo> it's directly caused by https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=666611
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23:25:37 * flo grumbles
23:25:50 <flo> they changed the API to throw if there's less than 500MB of freespace available
23:26:25 <flo> none of the C++ callers in mozilla-central checks the return nsresult value, and the only JS caller is a unit test where they added a try/catch
23:26:26 <instantbot> c++ is evil
23:26:29 <flo> we should just try/catch it
23:26:36 * flo agrees with instantbot
23:26:46 * clokep pats instantbot.
23:26:47 * instantbot beams
23:28:04 <flo> at least the fix is easy, we just need a try catch :)
23:28:36 <clokep> Hahah, yes. :) r=me if you fix it. ;)
23:28:57 <flo> and then the "an update will be available shortly" will be true in the message ;)
23:29:11 <flo> so this patch was checked in for Mozilla 9
23:29:22 <flo> was ib 1.1 affected? I can't remember which mozilla it shipped
23:30:03 <clokep> I think it was moz8
23:30:09 * clokep checks https://wiki.instantbird.org/Instantbird:Third_party_code
23:30:24 <clokep> That says that 1.0 was 7.0.1...
23:31:47 <flo> ok, I'll attach a patch soon
23:32:10 <clokep> bug 1161 says we went from 7.0.1 to 9.0 with a target of 1.2.
23:32:13 <clokep> So sounds like it wasn't part of 1.1
23:32:13 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1161 nor, --, 1.2, nobody, RESO FIXED, Update XUL from 7.0.1 to 9.0
23:32:44 <flo> ok :)
23:32:50 <flo> then it's a regression blocking 1.2 ;)
23:33:03 <flo> I'll fix it this evening anyway
23:33:23 <clokep> Thanks! :)
23:36:29 <flo> I'm looking for the link to the Tb bug
23:36:54 <flo> I remember it was reported by Fallen, and complained about failing to create an account (Tb initializes the chat core only when the first account is created)
23:37:55 <clokep> flo: bug 740472
23:37:57 <clokep> Maybe?
23:38:08 <clokep> (Which points to bug 740451)
23:38:24 <flo> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=740451
23:42:29 <flo> clokep: do we want to print a debug message in the error console in that situation?
23:42:51 <clokep> flo: I think it would be a good idea, a warning or an error you think?
23:43:08 <flo> it's definitely not an error
23:43:39 <flo> (nothing really failed, the operation was just ignored because there's not enough space)
23:43:50 <clokep> Even just a debug (info) message would be good though.
23:43:57 <clokep> I feel like an empty catch is kind of...weird...
23:44:41 <flo> http://lxr.instantbird.org/instantbird/source/chat/components/src/imContacts.js doesn't seem to have any logging currently :-S
23:45:00 <flo> it calls Cu.reportError
23:46:26 <clokep> That counts as logging, right? ;)
23:47:49 <flo> yeah... but nothing uses imXPCOMUtils' helper
23:48:01 <flo> so I can't just write LOG(blahblah) (what I wanted to do)
23:48:30 <flo> I think I'll just Services.console.logStringMessage but then there's no location information :-/
23:49:10 <flo> I think it will still pass review though ;)
23:49:26 <clokep> :P I was just about to say that I would r- it unless you add real logging. ;)
23:49:31 <clokep> But I won't here.
23:49:45 <flo> really?
23:50:01 <clokep> I was teasing. :)
23:50:23 <flo> I should probably file a bug to make someone convert the code in chat/components/src/ to the newer logging :)
23:50:46 <clokep> To "make someone"? :P Sounds like we need some interns. ;)
23:51:23 <flo> could it be a good task to learn some of our back-end code for some summer of code student? ;)
23:51:59 <flo> (I think the answer is no, because it's boring, but maybe I'm the only one thinking that kind of changes is boring :))
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23:54:00 <clokep> Maybe if I get bored one day. :)
23:55:40 <instantbot> clokep@gmail.com requested review from florian@instantbird .org for attachment 1456 on bug 1359.
23:55:42 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1359 nor, --, ---, clokep, ASSI, Abstract the shared methods between ircChannel and ircConversation
23:57:29 <flo> "blist.sqlite's setGrowthIncrement call ignored because there isn't enough free disk space" does that sound ok?
23:57:53 <clokep> Yes.
23:58:10 <flo> it seems awfully cryptic for users (but I guess the only point of showing that message to users in the error console is so that they can pastebin it to us) and not really good English :-S
23:58:50 <clokep> "setGrowthIncrement call ignored because there is not enough free disk space to increase the size of blist.sqlite"?
23:58:56 <clokep> Does that sound any better?
23:59:06 <flo> that's wrong
23:59:18 <flo> there's enough space to increase the size of the file
23:59:41 <clokep> Ah, right. It just prechecks to see if it should even try to or not, right?
23:59:58 <flo> just mozStorage prefer to not preallocate large files if the available space is limited