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00:00:45 <instant-buildbot> build #246 of linux-onCommit is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/linux-onCommit/builds/246 00:01:02 --> gpsychosis has joined #instantbird 00:01:39 <-- aleth has quit (Input/output error) 01:03:31 --> Mautematico has joined #instantbird 01:10:15 <-- Mautematico has quit (Ping timeout) 01:10:44 <clokep> How do we feel about the reading markers in the private messages? Are they useflu? 01:11:37 --> zen_monkey has joined #instantbird 01:26:23 <instant-buildbot> build #214 of macosx-onCommit is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/macosx-onCommit/builds/214 01:41:03 <instant-buildbot> build #235 of win32-onCommit is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/win32-onCommit/builds/235 01:41:04 --> Mautematico has joined #instantbird 02:03:06 <-- Tomek has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.1) 02:09:40 --> skeledre1 has joined #instantbird 02:10:06 <-- skeledrew has quit (Ping timeout) 02:25:59 <-- wnayes has quit (Quit: Instantbird -- http://www.instantbird.com) 02:31:57 <-- Mautematico has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.1) 03:04:03 <instant-buildbot> build #480 of linux-nightly-default is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/linux-nightly-default/builds/480 03:32:23 <-- clokep has quit (Quit: Instantbird -- http://www.instantbird.com) 04:00:39 <-- gpsychosis has quit (Ping timeout) 04:19:22 --> glob has joined #instantbird 04:19:55 <glob> flo, ping 04:20:16 * glob sends a pm 04:42:32 <-- micahg has quit (Ping timeout) 04:49:10 --> micahg has joined #instantbird 04:51:15 <instant-buildbot> build #571 of win32-nightly-default is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/win32-nightly-default/builds/571 04:52:29 --> gpsychosis has joined #instantbird 04:53:09 <-- zen_monkey has quit (Ping timeout) 04:54:54 <-- glob has left #instantbird (Leaving...) 05:02:15 <-- Kaishi has quit (Quit: Kaishi) 05:02:19 --> Kaishi has joined #instantbird 05:40:11 <-- EionRobb has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 05:55:04 <-- Kaishi has quit (Quit: Kaishi) 06:03:46 <instant-buildbot> build #468 of macosx-nightly-default is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/macosx-nightly-default/builds/468 06:49:14 --> Tomek has joined #instantbird 07:07:26 --> gerard-majax has joined #instantbird 08:06:00 <-- Tomek has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.1) 08:19:27 <-- chrisccoulson has quit (Quit: Ex-Chat) 08:22:14 --> chrisccoulson has joined #instantbird 08:28:38 --> meh has joined #instantbird 08:29:15 --> Even1 has joined #instantbird 08:30:22 --> jb has joined #instantbird 08:35:43 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 08:35:43 * ChanServ sets mode +h Mic 08:42:26 <-- Even1 has quit (Quit: Instantbird -- http://www.instantbird.com) 08:45:13 <-- Mic has quit (Quit: Instantbird -- http://www.instantbird.com) 08:47:13 --> mmkmou has joined #instantbird 08:48:30 <-- gpsychosis has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.1) 08:52:02 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 08:52:03 * ChanServ sets mode +h Mic 08:54:51 --> Even1 has joined #instantbird 08:57:44 <Mic> Awesome, 4700 context messages in #instantbird. It takes a while to load, but it's still responsive (I'm typing while it loads). 08:59:22 --> NmN has joined #instantbird 09:00:47 <Mic> That's from now back to January, 3rd for me. 09:03:03 <-- NmN has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.1) 09:07:54 <flo> clokep: "How do we feel about the reading markers in the private messages? Are they useflu?" very useful, yes! :) 09:13:06 <-- Mic has quit (Input/output error) 09:13:47 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 09:13:47 * ChanServ sets mode +h Mic 09:24:07 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 09:24:07 * ChanServ sets mode +h aleth 09:25:14 <-- aleth has quit (Quit: Instantbird -- http://www.instantbird.com) 09:25:24 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 09:25:24 * ChanServ sets mode +h aleth 09:30:50 <-- Even1 has quit (Connection reset by peer) 09:35:37 --> Even1 has joined #instantbird 09:42:19 <meh> yo, what's up in instantbird land? 09:52:21 <-- Mic has quit (Quit: Instantbird -- http://www.instantbird.com) 09:52:36 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 09:52:36 * ChanServ sets mode +h Mic 09:53:09 <-- Mic has quit (Quit: Instantbird -- http://www.instantbird.com) 09:53:16 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 09:53:16 * ChanServ sets mode +h Mic 10:00:38 <instantbot> aletheia2@fastmail.fm requested review from florian@instantbird .org for attachment 1420 on bug 1236. 10:00:40 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1236 nor, --, 1.2, nobody, NEW, JSON log viewer conversation bubbles all have the same colour for libpurple IM conversations 10:15:01 --> sonny has joined #instantbird 10:17:39 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 10:17:39 * ChanServ sets mode +o clokep 10:23:51 <-- Mic has left #instantbird () 10:24:00 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 10:24:00 * ChanServ sets mode +h Mic 10:24:24 <-- meh has quit (Ping timeout) 10:29:58 <clokep> flo: OK! I generally find that if I said the last thing I don't need the unread marker, but if we find it useful...it doesn't get in my way. :) 10:30:10 <-- sonny has quit (Client exited) 10:30:57 <flo> clokep: it's useful when the other person said the last thing before switching from the tab. 10:31:23 <flo> it reduces the likely hood or reading the same messages twice (if you are careful) or ignoring messages (if you aren't careful) 10:33:06 <aleth> It's even better with the patch in bug 1380 10:33:09 --> sonny has joined #instantbird 10:33:10 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1380 min, --, ---, aletheia2, ASSI, Unread ruler confusing when coming back to conversation with no new messages 10:33:41 <aleth> Btw there was a comment once that the unread ruler should also appear between context and non-context messages, is this wanted? 10:33:46 --> meh has joined #instantbird 10:35:03 <flo> aleth: should it appear only the first time the conversation is displayed (as context messages are read, and others are unread) or stay there? 10:35:52 <clokep> I think in the case of bringing it back from on hold it should be shown...but I'm not sure it needs to stay there. 10:35:56 <aleth> It would appear when you reopen a conv from hold I guess, if there are unread messages 10:36:08 <aleth> It would disappear again as usual 10:36:37 <aleth> When I wrote it, I thought it was unnecessary as there is already a visual distinction between context and non-context 10:36:55 <aleth> But I remember someone thought it should be there, and it's been a while... 10:37:53 <aleth> I can see how it would be consistent. 10:39:04 <clokep> I think it was Mic, I agree with him though -- I think it'd be more consistent with it there. 10:39:29 <Mic> Give me a moment, please 10:39:52 <clokep> Ah didn't mean to ping you. :( Didn't realize you were here. 10:40:10 <clokep> (That's why I need show nick in the input box too ;)) 10:40:19 <Mic> It's OK, I'll try to find out ;) 10:45:24 <flo> aleth: from the UX perspective, the question is: Is the ruler showing the separation between read and unread, or is it showing the sections I can scroll to? 10:46:41 <Mic> I didn't find it but searching so many messages worked fine anyways. 10:46:43 <flo> I think we definitely want a ruler between context and normal messages when the normal messages are unread for consistency. But we can live without it (as it's more for consistency than something really useful... except maybe for themes that don't support context messages) 10:51:07 <aleth> flo: It's a section you can scroll to, but so is the boundary between context and noncontext messages. It will be clearer when you look at the section scroll patch 10:51:40 <flo> aleth: seems like you gave to hidden review pings in the last few minutes ;) 10:51:44 <flo> *two 10:51:59 <flo> sorry for the time it takes me to get to all of these :( 10:52:46 <aleth> No worries... 10:53:28 <aleth> It wasn't meant as a review ping, just belongs to your question. 10:53:46 --> Even2 has joined #instantbird 10:53:48 <-- Even2 has quit (Quit: Even2) 10:54:05 <flo> aleth: I know :) 10:54:06 --> Even2 has joined #instantbird 10:54:23 <flo> rejoining bubbles still seem magical :) 10:54:37 <clokep> Oh bah, I should have made that string change last night. :( I forgot... 11:03:43 <-- clokep has quit (Quit: Instantbird -- http://www.instantbird.com) 11:07:59 <instantbot> aletheia2@fastmail.fm requested review from florian@instantbird .org for attachment 1421 on bug 1406. 11:08:01 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1406 nor, --, 1.2, aletheia2, RESO FIXED, Reply-to-nick: Multiple nicks and compatibility with tab complete 11:11:28 --> pvagner has joined #instantbird 11:11:51 <flo> aleth: I almost requested that when reviewing, and then decided I didn't want to bother you with it :) 11:12:23 <instantbot> florian@instantbird.org granted review for attachment 1421 on bug 1406. 11:12:25 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1406 nor, --, 1.2, aletheia2, RESO FIXED, Reply-to-nick: Multiple nicks and compatibility with tab complete 11:13:01 <aleth> Yeah, it's just a detail for people who are aimlessly double-clicking... ;) 11:25:37 <Mic> Can an input box only contain text or can there be markup (clokep suggested to use Show Nick there)? 11:26:14 <Mic> I've done no research on this, so ignore if you feel that I shouldn't be so lazy ;) 11:30:58 <Mic> If it were possible, you could put invisible span's around the nicks and e.g. add the string that the nick was completed from in an attribute. That would allow to resume cycling the nicks, if necessary 11:35:15 <aleth> I think that would be overkill... but if you want to implement something like that, go ahead 11:35:39 <aleth> Afaik doing this with an input box would be difficult 11:45:08 <Mic> bye 11:45:11 <-- Mic has quit (Quit: Instantbird -- http://www.instantbird.com) 11:45:58 --> clokep_work has joined #instantbird 11:45:58 * ChanServ sets mode +o clokep_work 11:52:25 --> Tomek has joined #instantbird 12:00:38 <clokep_work> Mic: I think with the input box would be really hard, but if we switch to an editor element (necessary for rich text formatting), it should be possible. 12:11:20 <-- Even2 has quit (Quit: Instantbird -- http://www.instantbird.com) 12:47:10 --> Mic|web has joined #instantbird 12:58:46 <-- pvagner has quit (Ping timeout) 12:59:17 <-- Tomek has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.1) 13:04:01 <-- meh has quit (Ping timeout) 13:06:21 <-- flo has quit (Quit: Instantbird -- http://www.instantbird.com) 13:06:36 --> flo has joined #instantbird 13:06:36 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo flo 13:07:33 --> Tomek has joined #instantbird 13:08:08 <-- jb has quit (Ping timeout) 13:14:42 --> meh has joined #instantbird 13:23:55 --> pvagner has joined #instantbird 13:28:45 <flo> it's not the first time I see this, I wonder what causes it: http://i.imgur.com/U2pWc.png 13:29:25 --> jb has joined #instantbird 13:30:14 <flo> it seems JS-XMPP somehow calls Socket.disconnect for accounts that have never been connected before 13:36:58 * bear-afk is now known as bear 13:37:52 <Mic|web> flo: would you mind if I asked clokep if he'd like to review bug 1259? 13:37:56 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1259 enh, --, ---, benediktp, ASSI, Replace JS animation code in messagestyle themes by CSS 13:41:00 <flo> Mic|web: I don't mind, but I could as well r+ it now ;) 13:41:23 <flo> it seems my previous r- was almost "r+ with these changed", and I don't see any obvious issue with the current attachment 13:41:45 <flo> I suspect I haven't r+ it right away because I may have wanted to try it 13:41:46 <Mic|web> OK, and let's hope there wasn't any bitrot in the meantime. 13:42:33 <instantbot> florian@instantbird.org granted review for attachment 1197 on bug 1259. 13:42:37 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1259 enh, --, ---, benediktp, ASSI, Replace JS animation code in messagestyle themes by CSS 13:42:51 <flo> if anybody wants to have another look at it, it's welcome of course :) 13:52:07 <-- jb has quit (Ping timeout) 14:04:54 <-- pvagner has quit (Ping timeout) 14:06:37 <clokep_work> Mic|web: I looked over it briefly I think and it seemed fine to me. :) 14:06:40 --> pvagner has joined #instantbird 14:08:32 <-- Tomek has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.1) 14:17:17 --> Tomek has joined #instantbird 14:18:33 --> zen_monkey has joined #instantbird 14:24:56 <Mic|web> aleth: how do you apply your patches? I've tried several things with "patch" and I can't get it right :( 14:25:01 <-- mmkmou has quit (Ping timeout) 14:25:25 <aleth> Mic|web: git apply ? But the issue is probably that the paths are wrong :-/ 14:25:36 <aleth> Unless you are patching an unpacked omni.jar 14:26:10 <flo> Mic|web: cd instantbird/content/ && patch -p5 < ../../attachment.patch 14:26:19 <Mic|web> I want to patch the unpacked omni.ja since I want to try how the message style changes look like 14:26:38 <aleth> Maybe the jar.mn part of the patch is throwing you? 14:26:43 <flo> ah, if it's an unpacked omni.jar you are patching, ignore what I said :) 14:27:35 <aleth> You don't need it if you're patching omni.ja 14:29:12 <aleth> git apply has a useful -v option to discover what is failing 14:35:27 --> mmkmou has joined #instantbird 14:36:27 <Mic|web> I think I got git somewhere, I'll try that (not before tomorrow or even Wednesday though). 14:36:51 <Mic|web> Sorry for the delay. Applying this patch by hand would be too tedious :( 14:36:56 <aleth> For sure. 14:37:16 <aleth> Maybe you need to set some option in patch to allow it to create new files? 14:37:22 <aleth> Some of the files in the patch are new. 14:38:19 <-- mmkmou has quit (Quit: Instantbird -- http://www.instantbird.com) 14:39:33 <aleth> Ah, -v in git is --verbose in patch 14:40:37 <Mic|web> I tried that and the output was exactly the same. It complained about "extra operand in ..." iirc. 14:42:27 <Mic|web> hmm, can be caused by spaces in pathnames as it seems. No idea if there were any :(# 14:43:18 --> mmkmou has joined #instantbird 14:46:40 <aleth> I suspect it's the new file mode parts of the patch that are messing it up, but I don't know 14:47:42 <Mic|web> I need to go, have a nice day! 14:49:16 <-- Mic|web has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 14:52:57 * flo goes away/offline for a few hours 14:54:59 <-- Tomek has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.1) 15:01:12 <-- pvagner has quit (Ping timeout) 15:06:24 --> pvagner has joined #instantbird 15:09:57 --> Mic|web has joined #instantbird 15:13:11 --> NmN has joined #instantbird 15:27:01 <-- Mic|web has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 15:38:24 <-- zen_monkey has quit (Ping timeout) 15:38:35 * jwir3|zzz is now known as jwir3 15:40:40 --> zen_monkey has joined #instantbird 15:41:27 * bear is now known as bear-afk 15:43:54 --> wesj has joined #instantbird 15:44:47 <-- Even1 has quit (Quit: Instantbird -- http://www.instantbird.com) 15:54:32 <-- pvagner has quit (Ping timeout) 15:54:40 --> Even1 has joined #instantbird 15:55:47 <-- gerard-majax has quit (Ping timeout) 15:55:58 --> pvagner has joined #instantbird 16:07:12 --> igorko has joined #instantbird 16:08:33 <-- igorko has quit (Connection reset by peer) 16:16:02 <-- sander85 has quit (Client exited) 16:19:24 <-- pvagner has quit (Ping timeout) 16:20:08 --> myk has joined #instantbird 16:22:10 --> pvagner has joined #instantbird 16:23:17 --> Kaishi has joined #instantbird 16:32:46 <-- pvagner has quit (Connection reset by peer) 16:33:14 --> pvagner has joined #instantbird 16:34:06 <-- zen_monkey has quit (Ping timeout) 16:35:52 <-- pvagner has quit (Ping timeout) 16:37:31 * bear-afk is now known as bear 16:40:08 --> pvagner has joined #instantbird 16:40:49 --> zen_monkey has joined #instantbird 16:42:26 --> sander85 has joined #instantbird 16:55:32 --> Mook_as has joined #instantbird 17:07:43 <-- pvagner has quit (Quit: Instantbird -- http://www.instantbird.com) 17:09:18 --> igorko has joined #instantbird 17:14:01 --> pvagner has joined #instantbird 17:17:17 --> Tomek has joined #instantbird 17:21:40 <-- meh has quit (Ping timeout) 17:23:54 <-- Tomek has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.1) 17:25:35 --> Tomek has joined #instantbird 17:28:58 <-- Tomek has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.1) 17:31:01 --> meh has joined #instantbird 17:31:44 <-- myk has quit (Ping timeout) 17:37:29 --> myk has joined #instantbird 17:42:27 <-- igorko has quit (Connection reset by peer) 17:47:48 <-- zen_monkey has quit (Quit: Saliendo) 17:57:01 <-- pvagner has quit (Quit: Instantbird -- http://www.instantbird.com) 18:00:52 --> pvagner has joined #instantbird 18:01:01 <-- Kaishi has quit (Quit: Kaishi) 18:05:34 --> Tomek has joined #instantbird 18:42:27 --> gerard-majax has joined #instantbird 19:27:24 --> gpsychosis has joined #instantbird 19:27:57 --> DGMurdockIII has joined #instantbird 19:28:03 <DGMurdockIII> hi 19:28:22 <meh> hi 19:31:27 <DGMurdockIII> did i miss the status metting 19:31:32 <DGMurdockIII> meating 19:33:05 <aleth> There wasn't one today 19:33:14 <clokep_work> DGMurdockIII: We haven't really been having them the past couple of months, but if you've got a question, etc... 19:34:28 <DGMurdockIII> when will video chatbee added 19:34:32 <DGMurdockIII> chat be 19:35:22 * bear is now known as bear-afk 19:35:40 <clokep_work> When someone adds support for it. 19:36:42 <aleth> Nobody has found the time to work on it so far. 19:37:21 <DGMurdockIII> ok 19:39:21 <clokep_work> It's a very nontrivial thing, not like just flipping a flag. 19:39:34 <aleth> Lots of other fixes though: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/shortlog/tip 19:40:12 <aleth> Video chat will require someone who really cares about it to spend quite a lot of time on it. 19:54:36 <clokep_work> Someone would need to work on it for a while without seeing any benefits too. :( 19:58:07 <Mook_as> it'd probably need to be in stages - start with playing a fixed local video file, or something 19:58:46 <aleth> It also depends on which protocol(s) you are aiming for. 19:59:08 <Mook_as> "nothing useful" :D 19:59:29 <-- NmN has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.1) 20:01:58 * bear-afk is now known as bear 20:02:16 <clokep_work> Well the options are: XMPP via on our stuff or try to get libpurple voice/video stuff to work. 20:02:48 <aleth> Or possibly following the recent FF video chat via web experiments, depending on how that turns out 20:02:52 <-- mmkmou has quit (Ping timeout) 20:03:24 <clokep_work> It still needs to go over a protocol. ;) 20:03:48 <aleth> Do they use a standard one? That would be nice... 20:04:04 <clokep_work> Really my point is just you need to roll your own (i.e. XMPP) or try to get it to work with libpurple. 20:04:19 <clokep_work> No, they all use different codecs, sizes, etc. etc. 20:06:29 --> mmkmou has joined #instantbird 20:07:28 <instantbot> New Instantbird (UI) bug 1413 filed by myk@mozilla.org. 20:07:32 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1413 nor, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, angle bracket-delimited URL linkified with closing bracket included in link and semi-colon appended 20:15:14 <instantbot> New Instantbird (UI) bug 1414 filed by myk@mozilla.org. 20:15:16 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1414 nor, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, linkification ends at opening square bracket in link 20:17:07 * clokep_work wonders how many of those are our bugs and how many are toolkit bugs... 20:23:42 <-- meh has quit (Quit: I don't want to live on this planet anymore.) 20:33:04 <flo> clokep_work: linkification bugs are mozITXTToHTML ;) 20:34:48 <clokep_work> flo: I know. Although the 1413 might be in our entities code. 20:38:33 <-- sander85 has quit (Quit: KVIrc 4.1.3 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/) 20:38:42 --> sander85 has joined #instantbird 20:54:50 <-- Even has quit (Ping timeout) 20:55:26 <-- clokep_work has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 20:57:22 --> EionRobb has joined #instantbird 21:02:17 <-- mmkmou has quit (Client exited) 21:04:50 --> Mnyromyr has joined #instantbird 21:08:21 --> Even has joined #instantbird 21:08:22 * ChanServ sets mode +o Even 21:10:54 <-- EionRobb has quit (Connection reset by peer) 21:11:28 --> EionRobb has joined #instantbird 21:17:43 --> meh has joined #instantbird 21:33:19 <-- chrisccoulson has quit (Quit: Ex-Chat) 21:36:20 --> chrisccoulson has joined #instantbird 21:37:41 --> Kaishi has joined #instantbird 21:49:05 <-- gpsychosis has quit (Ping timeout) 21:49:09 --> gpsychosis has joined #instantbird 22:19:41 <-- meh has quit (Quit: I don't want to live on this planet anymore.) 22:22:03 * bear is now known as bear-afk 22:24:03 --> meh has joined #instantbird 22:31:41 <instantbot> aletheia2@fastmail.fm set the Resolution field on bug 1392 to INCOMPLETE. 22:31:43 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1392 nor, --, ---, nobody, RESO INCOMPLETE, Input method is not usable in Fedora 16 64-bit and compilation failed, too. 22:56:59 <-- meh has quit (Quit: I don't want to live on this planet anymore.) 23:08:44 <-- sonny has quit (Ping timeout) 23:09:21 <-- Suiseiseki has quit (Quit: Quit) 23:21:38 --> mmkmou has joined #instantbird 23:22:22 <-- Mnyromyr has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [SeaMonkey 1.1.19/2010030105]) 23:23:22 <-- aleth has quit (Input/output error) 23:31:04 --> Suiseiseki has joined #instantbird 23:44:31 --> zen_monkey has joined #instantbird