#instantbird log on 03 23 2012

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00:11:02 <clokep> You guys talk too much. :P
00:16:42 <aleth> Should bug 976 be 1.2-wanted?
00:16:47 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=976 enh, --, ---, clokep, ASSI, Support Microsoft Office Communicator protocol (SIPE)
00:17:11 <clokep> aleth: Maybe, but I have a feeling it will slip.
00:18:24 <instantbot> clokep@gmail.com set the Resolution field on bug 1348 to FIXED.
00:18:26 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1348 nor, --, 1.2, florian, RESO FIXED, Update to Mozilla 11
00:22:08 <clokep> aleth: flo probably wants it to be so I stop using Mibbit at work. :P
00:22:34 <clokep> "Oh? You want to talk to the guy that wrote our IRC code? Yeah...he's the one signed on with Mibbit, not Instantbird."
00:22:55 <aleth> with real name "mibbit.com" :D
00:23:11 <clokep> I like to be anonymous. ;)
00:23:30 <aleth> Mibbit likes it that way too ;)
00:23:53 <clokep> And Kaishi....no I don't think IRC should be fixed font. :P I don't like that everyone feels the need to treat IRC differently than other IM networks...which is pretty much my philosophy for Instantbird's IRC.
00:24:22 <aleth> Account-specific message styles is a good idea for an add-on though.
00:24:59 <Mook_as> a cascade of global, protocol, account, contact ?
00:25:43 * clokep gags.
00:25:51 <clokep> Not my style. :) But I could see some people liking it.
00:26:05 <aleth> I wouldn't use it either...
00:26:06 * Mook_as hands clokep a chloroform-soaked rag to gag with
00:26:16 <clokep> Thanks.
00:26:19 <aleth> But that's the point of add-ons
00:26:20 <clokep> Put me right to bed.
00:27:16 <aleth> And nobody has even asked for "Pings should get the blink tag" yet
00:28:08 <douglaswth> wat?
00:28:35 <Mook_as> I think you just want text-decoration:blink in http://lxr.instantbird.org/instantbird/source/instantbird/themes/messages/bubbles/main.css#134 ?
00:28:59 * aleth thinks that joke might have been a bad idea
00:29:10 <instant-buildbot> build #200 of macosx-onCommit is complete: Failure [failed compile]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/macosx-onCommit/builds/200  blamelist: Florian Qu?ze <florian@instantbird.org>
00:29:14 <Mook_as> yeah, too easy :p
00:29:26 <aleth> and someone might go and do it :P
00:31:48 <Mook_as> that's okay, it'd be an addon so it'd just be self-inflicted and won't affect the other end
00:39:39 <instant-buildbot> build #232 of linux-onCommit is complete: Failure [failed compile]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/linux-onCommit/builds/232  blamelist: Florian Qu?ze <florian@instantbird.org>
00:43:03 <instant-buildbot> build #221 of win32-onCommit is complete: Failure [failed compile]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/win32-onCommit/builds/221  blamelist: Florian Qu?ze <florian@instantbird.org>
00:45:24 <clokep> :(
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01:58:25 <waynenguyen_1> Hi
01:58:33 <waynenguyen_1> Is there a way to modify/delete key3.db from an extension?
01:59:03 <waynenguyen_1> I tried nsIFile.remove() but it seems that the file is blocked
03:12:16 <instant-buildbot> build #437 of linux-nightly-default is complete: Failure [failed compile]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/linux-nightly-default/builds/437
03:17:35 <instant-buildbot> build #426 of macosx-nightly-default is complete: Failure [failed compile]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/macosx-nightly-default/builds/426
03:21:28 <instant-buildbot> build #522 of win32-nightly-default is complete: Failure [failed compile]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/win32-nightly-default/builds/522
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10:16:34 <flo> hello :)
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10:18:45 <clokep> Hello!
10:19:06 <flo> clokep: "00:22:34 <clokep> "Oh? You want to talk to the guy that wrote our IRC code? Yeah...he's the one signed on with Mibbit, not Instantbird." don't worry, the guy who wrote the libpurple prpl claims someone would need to be crazy to use Pidgin for IRC ;)
10:19:36 <clokep> Hah. :)
10:19:45 <clokep> That explains a lot about that code. ;)
10:21:04 <flo> the irc libpurple prpl isn't horrible compared to others ;)
10:21:20 <flo> but that prpl isn't our business anymore :)
10:21:32 <flo> I'm not satisfied of the color of the waterfall
10:23:39 <clokep> Neither am...it also matches my local builds color. :(
10:24:15 <clokep> Any idea what theerrors are from?
10:24:20 <flo> do you remember which bug number that was? / which file we need to rm in the source tree?
10:24:53 <clokep> I don't. :( I remember seeing it though haha.
10:25:11 <clokep> flo: http://whereswalden.com/2012/03/02/psa-if-you-get-a-xpidllex-py-failure-building-mozilla-central-rm-topsrcdirxpcomidl-parser-pyc-bug-723861-eom/
10:25:35 <clokep> Oh...maybe not.
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10:26:40 <clokep> That's Moz10 too...
10:29:00 <flo> no, not moz11
10:29:15 <flo> it's target: moz13 + aurora (-> 12) + beta (-> 11)
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10:32:54 <logiclord> Hi all, just wanted to notify that I have added mockups, kopete amd permissions at https://wiki.instantbird.org/Account_Import_Wizard Thanks :) ... iChat needs a bit more investigation 
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10:33:28 * clokep finds the version numbers confusing...
10:34:09 <flo> yeah, I've noticed you expect everything to be in moz10 :-P
10:35:09 <clokep> It's such a round #!
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10:43:27 <clokep> Well seems like removing those *.pyc files worked for me.
10:43:33 <clokep> I think it's past the point it used to die...
10:44:07 <flo> we are going the hg purge route for buildbot
10:44:14 <flo> Even is working on it
10:45:32 <clokep> Makes sense.
10:45:41 <clokep> You'll need to force ignored files as implied on that bug.
10:45:58 <flo> ah?
10:46:12 <clokep> *.pyc is an ignored file so it isn't removed by hg purge by default I think...
10:46:29 <flo> ;(
10:47:43 <clokep> Maybe there's a -f flag?
10:47:46 <clokep> git clean has that...
10:48:04 <clokep> Ah, it's --all
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11:32:01 <instant-buildbot> build #438 of linux-nightly-default is complete: Failure [failed compile]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/linux-nightly-default/builds/438
11:42:57 <clokep_work> :(
11:44:49 <flo> we need http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/diff/1e25bdfb62c0/layout/xul/base/src/nsXULTooltipListener.h apparently
11:45:11 <flo> I'm not sure of why this is a fatal error for us and not for Mozilla's builders...
11:46:17 <clokep_work> Perhaps we're using a different flag on gcc than them?
11:46:26 <flo> it's caused by -pendantic
11:46:34 <flo> but we aren't adding it
11:46:37 <flo> it's there by default
11:46:46 <clokep_work> :-/
11:46:51 <clokep_work> Ask in #build? :P
11:47:41 <flo> I think we can just add that stupid patch and restart the build
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12:02:44 <clokep_work> Guess that one didn't get approval -aurora or -beta? ;)
12:02:55 <flo> right...
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13:00:33 * clokep_work wonders if importing from CZ would be worth looking into...
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13:16:15 <instant-buildbot> build #523 of win32-nightly-default is complete: Success [build successful]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/win32-nightly-default/builds/523
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13:30:00 <clokep_work> Well looks like Windows users get a new nightly at least. ;)
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14:20:43 <flo> http://mozilla.org.uk/blog/2012/03/lightning-fast-instant-messages-thunderbird
14:23:13 <clokep_work> They spelled "Instantbird" wrong. :(
14:23:29 <Evep> Yeah.
14:23:31 <Evep> Like veryone else.
14:23:42 <Evep> The fun part is they all get Thunderbird right.
14:23:45 <flo> it's spelled right on the twitter screenshot :-P
14:23:51 <Evep> They never write Thunder Bird
14:24:15 <Evep> We should start that. Might annoy them enough so they do remember it actually is instantbird :)
14:24:36 <Evep> (with a capital I it definietly looks better)
14:25:10 <Evep> flo: That's so strange! :P
14:25:40 <clokep_work> Evep++
14:26:24 <clokep_work> I like your new name. ;)
14:35:02 <flo> it's surprising that people misspell the name all the time, but not the domain name :)
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15:07:08 <instant-buildbot> build #427 of macosx-nightly-default is complete: Success [build successful]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/macosx-nightly-default/builds/427
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15:41:56 <instant-buildbot> build #233 of linux-onCommit is complete: Exception [exception]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/linux-onCommit/builds/233  blamelist: Florian Qu?ze <florian@instantbird.org>
15:42:49 <instant-buildbot> build #201 of macosx-onCommit is complete: Failure [failed compile]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/macosx-onCommit/builds/201  blamelist: Florian Qu?ze <florian@instantbird.org>
15:42:55 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/d4ea68df839e - Florian Qu├Ęze - Fix linux bustage.
15:43:13 <instant-buildbot> build #222 of win32-onCommit is complete: Failure [failed compile]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/win32-onCommit/builds/222  blamelist: Florian Qu?ze <florian@instantbird.org>
15:43:24 <flo> uh
15:52:44 <clokep_work> Fast build. :)
15:53:50 <flo> but disappointing result ;)
15:56:31 <clokep_work> Yes. :(
15:57:11 <flo> the only build I really want to succeed is the linux nightly though, so as long as that one doesn't fail... :)
15:58:16 <flo> if we wanted to write tests for Instantbird, where would we start?
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16:09:52 <clokep_work> I don't know. :-/
16:10:06 <clokep_work> Back end tests? Protocol tests? UI tests?
16:16:15 <instant-buildbot> build #439 of linux-nightly-default is complete: Success [build successful]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/linux-nightly-default/builds/439
16:17:02 <flo> :)
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16:46:58 <flo> http://pidgin.im/pipermail/translators/2012-March/000617.html :-/
16:50:45 <flo> I've just emailed that guy "Would you like to send us (contact@instantbird.org) some feedback about what you didn't like in Instantbird? Thanks for trying it!"
17:01:30 <clokep_work> Nice.
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17:13:39 <clokep_work> flo: What sort of tests are you looking at?
17:15:17 <flo> something that would give us as good a test coverage as OTR gives a good security :-P
17:18:59 <clokep_work> I think we have enough tests then. :)
17:22:00 <flo> I think we would need to run some of them so that we can show some test results ;)
17:23:51 <clokep_work> I mean I can think of some stuff we should test in IRC...
17:24:02 <clokep_work> But I'm not sure if you mean at the protocol level or the application level or what. :-D
17:24:08 <clokep_work> I really have no idea what "writing tests" entails. :(
17:25:50 <flo> I think I'm not really interested in "writing tests"
17:26:16 <flo> but I would like something automated that could increase our confidence in the quality of a build without having to hand-test it
17:31:20 <clokep_work> Like trying to connect to servers?
17:34:01 <flo> being sure that the packaged build is able to start and show some UI would dramatically increase my confidence in it :)
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18:10:34 <Mic|web> Hi
18:10:52 <clokep_work> Hello Mic|web.
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19:20:24 <instantbot> do.not.deliver@gmx.de granted review for attachment 1164 on bug 1258.
19:20:27 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1258 tri, --, ---, benediktp, ASSI, German: problems on the "About" page
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19:23:10 <aleth> moz11 runs :)
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19:58:14 <instantbot> New Instantbird (UI) bug 1351 filed by aletheia2@fastmail.fm.
19:58:16 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1351 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Tray icon missing after moz11 update
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20:15:49 <clokep> aleth: I think that tray bug is a "finders keepers" bug. ;)
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20:24:05 <instantbot> benediktp@ymail.com set the Resolution field on bug 1258 to FIXED.
20:24:07 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1258 tri, --, ---, benediktp, RESO FIXED, German: problems on the "About" page
20:25:31 <Mook_as> for bug 1351, the space for the icon is there, it's just invisible? (that's probably useful information)
20:25:34 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1351 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Tray icon missing after moz11 update
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21:47:19 <flo> Google's detection of spam/important messages is quite surprising
21:47:57 <flo> another message from logiclord was marked as spam by the google group, and then once I've posted it from the moderation UI, Gmail thinks it's "important" ...
21:48:41 <flo> but another message that was in spam in the group (a request for help from someone having trouble connecting to gtalk) ends up in spam in my gmail account too
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22:48:11 <flo> unchecking the "always show the system tray icon" checkbox focuses the blist window immediately
22:48:16 <flo> that's quite... surprising!
22:48:38 <flo> (on linux obviously)
22:48:48 <flo> (as on window the prefs are saved only when clicking "ok")
22:52:45 <flo> I see a warning about this._name being undefined (http://lxr.instantbird.org/instantbird/source/chat/modules/jsProtoHelper.jsm#463) when looking at the Themes tab of the pref window
22:54:29 <clokep> I think we checked something in recently (by aleth?) that focuses the buddy list "more".
22:55:04 <flo> yeah, I suspect aleth may have somehow caused this
22:55:17 * clokep points a finger.
22:55:18 <aleth> flo: nope :D https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=869#c23
22:55:21 <instantbot> Bug 869 nor, --, 1.2, aletheia2, RESO FIXED, Contacts window forgets screen position when closed
22:56:05 <aleth> At least it sounds like the same thing.
22:56:24 <flo> aleth: you own the tray icon code anyway :-P
22:57:30 <flo> "I'm not sure it's actually a bug as the trayService must ensure the buddy list window is visible when the tray icon is removed." sounds like an excuse for not fixing it. it's definitely a bug ;)
22:57:48 <flo> but anyway, I compiled on linux to try to find and fix that missing icon bug
22:58:13 <clokep> Oh hey my build finished at some point too!
22:58:27 <flo> my debug build says http://lxr.instantbird.org/instantbird/source/instantbird/components/mintrayr/trayToolkit.cpp#101 fails
22:58:28 <aleth> Oh, it's a bug, just a very minor one...
22:59:16 <flo> I don't understand why lines 100 and 101 are needed
23:00:54 <flo> was the icon broken in moz10 already? or only with moz11?
23:01:47 <aleth> I'm pretty sure it was moz11
23:02:53 <flo> that code is hard to understand :(
23:03:11 <flo> but I guess I can try commenting out these 2 lines first, and if it fixes the bug I can't stop trying to understand
23:03:29 * clokep needs to go.
23:03:31 <clokep> Goodnight!
23:03:34 <clokep> Enjoy your weekend. :)
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23:03:51 <aleth> No idea what that does :(
23:04:51 <aleth> flo: possibly related? https://github.com/nmaier/mintrayr/commit/82434ec2dbbd583860f14f0fc2e3da378de959ab
23:06:10 <aleth> Not sure how much of the code still matches, clokep might know
23:06:14 <flo> maybe a workaround
23:06:21 <Mook_as> it's trying to find the native window handle given a DOM window
23:06:25 <flo> doesn't seem like a fix for the issue I'm seeing
23:06:51 * Mook_as is surprised it doesn't poke the docshell tree
23:06:52 <flo> Mook_as: but why nsIWebNavigation?
23:07:07 <flo> I would expect an nsIInterfaceRequestor somewhere...
23:07:12 <Mook_as> that I have no idea!
23:07:19 <Mook_as> oh, do_GetInterface is it...
23:07:27 <flo> ah!
23:07:29 <Mook_as> (that is, do_GetInterface == nsIInterfaceRequestor.getInterface)
23:07:53 <Mook_as> the code I'm familiar with uses https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Code_snippets/Finding_Window_Handles#Yet_Another_way_to_find_a_window_handle_%28parent_window_handle%29
23:08:21 <Mook_as> I don't know why this code isn't doing the middle bits.
23:09:16 <flo> so are we trying to understand why it no longer works, or why it used to work? :-D
23:14:16 <flo> http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/widget/shared/WidgetUtils.cpp#53 looks similar
23:14:42 <flo> there's just a magic nsPIDOMWindow in the middle
23:22:23 <instantbot> New Core - Twitter bug 1352 filed by datastore@mail.ru.
23:22:26 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1352 cri, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, Error: 401 - Unauthorized
23:23:37 <flo> it doesn't want to build
23:24:02 <flo> it seems nsIDocShell doesn't inherit from nsISupports. Is that even possible?
23:25:08 <Mook_as> no, especially given http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/docshell/base/nsIDocShell.idl#75
23:25:27 <Mook_as> you probably didn't include the header, it's just forward-declared?
23:26:34 <flo> right
23:26:39 <flo> (I had already found it)
23:26:55 * flo thinks his compiler sucks
23:28:20 <flo> so now I no longer have the error in trayToolkit.cpp, but the icon still isn't visible :-/
23:29:42 * flo wonders what's going on with bug 1352
23:29:45 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1352 cri, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, Error: 401 - Unauthorized
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23:32:21 <flo> but now mintrayr crashes at shutdown
23:32:29 <flo> not sure that's an improvement :)
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23:49:49 <flo> aleth: porting https://github.com/nmaier/mintrayr/commit/82434ec2dbbd583860f14f0fc2e3da378de959ab works :)
23:50:25 <aleth> Oh good :)
23:53:29 <flo> and I don't understand why I no longer see the error in the other file even with the fix I was making reverted
23:54:18 <aleth> I just don't know enough about the window handling interna to understand much of the C part of that code.
23:55:27 <flo> ah, I still see it, but only at shutdown
23:55:35 <flo> I guess I'll pretend I haven't seen anything
23:55:54 <aleth> Maybe there are more mintrayr bugfixes that should/could be ported