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00:08:37 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 00:08:37 * ChanServ sets mode +o clokep 00:38:22 <-- wesj has quit (Input/output error) 00:56:20 <instantbot> clokep@gmail.com requested review from florian@instantbird .org for attachment 1253 on bug 1291. 00:56:23 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1291 min, --, ---, clokep, ASSI, Source displayed in "entered the room" system messages for JS-IRC is too verbose 00:57:51 <instantbot> clokep@gmail.com cancelled review?(florian@instantbird .org) for attachment 1253 on bug 1291. 00:57:52 <instantbot> clokep@gmail.com requested review from florian@instantbird .org for attachment 1254 on bug 1291. 01:02:25 <-- Mook_as has quit (Quit: gone) 01:05:44 <-- Plop has quit (Ping timeout) 01:06:03 --> Plop has joined #instantbird 01:45:12 * jwir3 is now known as jwir3|away 01:57:09 <-- myk has quit (Ping timeout) 02:17:41 <-- Tomek has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.1) 02:17:59 <-- Even has quit (Connection reset by peer) 02:28:45 --> Mook has joined #instantbird 02:31:35 --> Plop1 has joined #instantbird 02:32:01 <-- Plop has quit (Ping timeout) 03:09:46 <-- sonny has quit (Client exited) 03:15:23 <-- clokep has quit (Quit: Instantbird -- http://www.instantbird.com) 03:48:20 <instant-buildbot> build #427 of linux-nightly-default is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/linux-nightly-default/builds/427 05:22:56 <-- Mook has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.87-rdmsoft [XULRunner 6.0/20110811165603]) 05:24:23 <-- pvagner has quit (Ping timeout) 05:42:17 <instant-buildbot> build #513 of win32-nightly-default is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/win32-nightly-default/builds/513 06:02:39 --> pvagner has joined #instantbird 06:03:40 --> pvagnes has joined #instantbird 06:04:23 <-- pvagner has quit (Ping timeout) 06:07:48 --> pvagnet has joined #instantbird 06:08:05 <-- pvagnes has quit (Ping timeout) 06:13:18 <-- pvagnet has quit (Quit: Instantbird -- http://www.instantbird.com) 06:21:52 --> pvagner has joined #instantbird 06:27:19 <-- pvagner has quit (Quit: Instantbird -- http://www.instantbird.com) 06:34:54 --> pvagner has joined #instantbird 06:38:40 <-- pvagner has quit (Quit: Instantbird -- http://www.instantbird.com) 06:39:00 --> pvagner has joined #instantbird 06:42:43 <-- pvagner has quit (Quit: Instantbird -- http://www.instantbird.com) 06:43:06 --> pvagner has joined #instantbird 06:49:10 <-- pvagner has quit (Quit: Instantbird -- http://www.instantbird.com) 06:49:26 --> pvagner has joined #instantbird 06:52:54 <instant-buildbot> build #417 of macosx-nightly-default is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/macosx-nightly-default/builds/417 07:40:49 <-- Plop1 has quit (Ping timeout) 07:46:54 --> FeuerFliege has joined #instantbird 07:52:09 --> Tomek has joined #instantbird 08:06:55 --> BYK has joined #instantbird 08:14:03 <-- FeuerFliege has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2a1pre) 08:17:42 <-- gerard-majax has quit (Ping timeout) 08:44:17 --> FeuerFliege has joined #instantbird 08:44:19 --> mmkmou has joined #instantbird 08:46:00 --> Even has joined #instantbird 08:46:00 * ChanServ sets mode +o Even 08:46:09 <-- Even has quit (Quit: Instantbird -- http://www.instantbird.com) 08:46:14 --> Even has joined #instantbird 08:46:14 * ChanServ sets mode +o Even 08:56:37 --> gerard-majax has joined #instantbird 08:57:28 <-- gerard-majax has quit (Connection reset by peer) 08:57:39 --> gerard-majax has joined #instantbird 08:58:56 <-- Even has quit (Quit: Instantbird -- http://www.instantbird.com) 09:00:05 <-- chrisccoulson has quit (Quit: Ex-Chat) 09:00:48 --> chrisccoulson has joined #instantbird 09:16:16 --> Even has joined #instantbird 09:16:16 * ChanServ sets mode +o Even 09:17:03 <-- Even has quit (Quit: Instantbird -- http://www.instantbird.com) 09:17:14 --> Even has joined #instantbird 09:17:14 * ChanServ sets mode +o Even 09:27:52 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 09:27:52 * ChanServ sets mode +h aleth 09:38:12 <-- Even has quit (Quit: Instantbird -- http://www.instantbird.com) 09:38:24 --> Even has joined #instantbird 09:38:25 * ChanServ sets mode +o Even 09:45:31 <-- Tomek has quit (Ping timeout) 09:48:17 --> Tomek has joined #instantbird 09:52:01 --> flo has joined #instantbird 09:52:01 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo flo 09:55:22 <FeuerFliege> hi flo 09:55:31 <FeuerFliege> hi everyone 09:55:31 <flo> hello :) 09:56:07 <FeuerFliege> I noticed that TB-Daily comes now with a chat function. 09:57:08 <flo> how do you feel about it? :) 09:59:05 <FeuerFliege> It works, but I havenât tested it much yet. But I would like to have chat-sidebar, and more chat-protocols included. 10:02:01 <FeuerFliege> I like how the account settings and options are included to the standard TB menus 10:05:55 <flo> the integration between the chat features and the rest of the application should be better in the future 10:18:56 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 10:18:56 * ChanServ sets mode +o clokep 10:25:13 <clokep> Hello. :) 10:25:38 <flo> hello clokep :) 10:25:43 <flo> I was looking at your new patch 10:25:50 <flo> is that message.source localizable string really needed? 10:26:15 <clokep> I'm not sure. :) 10:26:25 <clokep> You'r emuch more an expert on localizability. 10:30:11 <flo> what's the change in the command.mode string? 10:31:00 <clokep> Unrelated. :( 10:31:08 <clokep> Sorry. I have a ton of changes to my IRC code right now... 10:31:18 <clokep> I need to get better at making patches. I'm working on it! 10:31:24 <clokep> Was researching in mq a bit. :) 10:32:23 <flo> how frequent is it that we don't know anything at all about the new participant? 10:32:38 <flo> (I'm wondering if we could get away with fixing this without any string change) 10:32:49 <clokep> AFAIK? Essentially never. 10:34:31 <clokep> I tried to do it without string changes, but couldn't come up with a seemingly acceptable way. 10:34:53 <clokep> If we were to hard code the source to be " [<source>]" or "" if it doesn't exist...that would work I think. 10:35:23 <flo> well, without string change it would display [] in the conversation when we know nothing 10:35:25 <flo> is it acceptable? 10:36:52 <flo> I'm confused on how we are going to maintain chat/ in both comm-central and our repository in the next few weeks :( 10:37:11 <flo> I also noticed this morning that the new situation completely changes our situation for l10n 10:37:18 <clokep> Well comm-central is easy right? It can accept string changes... 10:37:26 <clokep> comm-aurora is the hard one... 10:37:28 <flo> as all of chat/ will already be translated for Thunderbird by the time we send our strings to our Instantbird translators 10:38:11 <flo> but that only works if we take strings that are already in comm-<whatever corresponds> when we release 10:39:21 <clokep> Right. :-/ 10:39:52 <clokep> Unless we only ever release from comm-<whatever one has l20n done? beta?> 10:40:16 <flo> so yeah... I'm generally confused by this topic; all I know is I would like someone else to think about all of this for me/us :-D 10:40:27 <flo> l20n?? 10:40:40 <flo> is it landing soon? 10:44:53 <clokep> l10n, sorry. :) 10:45:03 <clokep> I hope l20n lands soon and gets rid of the crappy API surrounding l10n. 10:45:21 <clokep> flo: I'm OK with essentialy just inserting blank [] if there is no source. 10:45:30 <flo> the last drafts of l20n I saw were scary 10:45:33 <clokep> I don't have time to update that patch though. 10:46:10 <flo> no emergency :) 10:47:15 <clokep> Well actually...I might... 10:47:24 <clokep> It's early still...should only be a few lines of changes. 10:48:12 <flo> I don't know if that change is really a good idea 10:48:20 <flo> (but we could land it immediately) 10:48:31 <flo> (without having to think about the implications of changing strings) 10:49:33 --> sonny has joined #instantbird 10:53:10 <clokep> flo: Is those changes http://pastebin.instantbird.com/19521 10:53:39 <clokep> We could always make the strings suck less later if we wanted to. 10:53:40 <clokep> I need to go. 10:53:43 <clokep> Bye! 10:53:44 <-- clokep has quit (Quit: Instantbird -- http://www.instantbird.com) 11:02:53 --> Yoric has joined #instantbird 11:02:54 <-- FeuerFliege has quit (Connection reset by peer) 11:15:33 <-- aleth has quit (Input/output error) 11:16:55 <-- sonny has quit (Client exited) 11:23:37 <Yoric> Hi 11:23:57 <Yoric> Well, I had to reinstall today's nightly, because yesterday's still wouldn 11:24:01 <Yoric> Well, I had to reinstall today's nightly, because yesterday's still wouldn't work (or update). 11:24:17 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 11:24:17 * ChanServ sets mode +h aleth 11:24:51 <flo> Yoric: and today's works fine? :) 11:24:58 <-- BYK has quit (Quit: Instantbird -- http://www.instantbird.com) 11:25:00 <Yoric> So far, so good :) 11:26:47 <flo> :) 11:40:10 --> clokep_work has joined #instantbird 11:40:11 * ChanServ sets mode +o clokep_work 11:48:09 * flo wonders why bug 1321 hasn't moved for a week 11:48:13 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1321 min, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Display name is lower case for IRC DMs 11:49:51 <-- Tomek has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.1) 11:54:51 --> sonny has joined #instantbird 11:58:22 <clokep_work> flo: Because my final comments weren't addressed... 11:58:37 <clokep_work> And I think aleth is having it depend on the /whois command bug kind of? 11:58:55 <clokep_work> Ah! I actually did r- it. :) 11:58:59 <clokep_work> I thought you meant I left a hanging r?. 12:00:04 <flo> yeah... wondering if yout latest comments have scared aleth, or if he thought you wanted to look more at it/patch it yourself 12:00:07 <flo> *your 12:01:05 <clokep_work> Maybe. :( 12:01:45 * flo wonders how many poeple BrowserId has discouraged from contributing to developer.mozilla.org 12:02:00 <flo> it's the third time I want to edit something and can't because I need to setup a browserid account 12:02:06 <clokep_work> :( 12:02:14 <clokep_work> I thought that was supposed to make it easier. :P 12:02:18 <flo> and I still don't understand why editing a wiki requires me to provide a valid email address that I can remember 12:03:09 <flo> + setting up the account is supposed to send me a confirmation email; which I still haven't received several minutes later. 12:03:41 <flo> maybe it will arrive during lunch... 12:04:01 <aleth> flo: It depends on getting the properly capitalized nick from somewhere, which is part of my whois patch 12:04:11 <aleth> I think I marked it as blocking for that reason 12:06:40 <instantbot> clokep@gmail.com denied review for attachment 1249 on bug 1332. 12:06:44 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1332 nor, --, ---, aletheia2, ASSI, Implement /whois and /whowas commands 12:10:57 <aleth> Are they using developer.mozilla.wiki to dogfood browserid? Maybe you should give them some feedback... 12:15:10 <clokep_work> flo: If you don't remove an observer you cause a leak, right? 12:16:35 * clokep_work thinks aleth's code in bug 1332 might caues that... 12:16:39 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1332 nor, --, ---, aletheia2, ASSI, Implement /whois and /whowas commands 12:17:55 --> Plop has joined #instantbird 12:19:22 <-- sonny has quit (Client exited) 12:58:47 --> Mayflower has joined #instantbird 12:59:22 <Mayflower> ohai o.o 12:59:53 <Mayflower> just wanted to drop in and ask if 64 bit build of ib is coming anytime soon? 13:00:42 <flo> clokep_work: depends on the situation 13:01:00 <Mayflower> mingw-w64 has been used successfully with other apps already <_< 13:01:20 <flo> Mayflower: oh, you weren't asking for linux 64bit? 13:01:38 <Mayflower> linux 64bit is trivial, afaik 13:03:16 <Mayflower> i'd build that myself if i was still using linux, but i'm using windows now and setting up build environments in this is oddly hard 13:03:49 <Even> What are you expecting from a 64bit version on Windows ? 13:04:38 <Even> I can see why a 64bits version of Ib is wanted on Linux (gtk breaks the UI style of the app if it is running in 64bits but not the app) 13:05:13 <Mayflower> I'm expecting it to skip the WoW subsystem 13:05:15 <Even> But the only interesting thing about 64bit versions is the possibility to use more than 2GB of RAM. 13:05:25 --> BYK has joined #instantbird 13:05:46 <Even> But I don't expect any user to look forward Ib being able to get over this memory usage anyway :) 13:06:33 <Even> I understand that. 13:06:40 <Even> But what is the actual benefit of not using it ? 13:06:58 <Even> It's not like it's really hurting performances anyway... 13:07:05 <flo> I think even Firefox doesn't have official Win64 builds 13:07:14 <Even> Yeah, I don't think it has. 13:07:36 <Mayflower> firefox doesn't have them mostly because flash and such don't have stable 64 bit build yet either, iirc 13:08:08 <Mayflower> and they have a need to stay compatible with that 13:08:12 <flo> Mayflower: and also because there's no clearly identified benefit of having it 13:09:29 <Mayflower> it also removes the need to have both 64bit and 32bit libraries on the system 13:09:47 <Even> Mayflower: that would be true but they are already there anyway... 13:10:18 <Mayflower> on windows that's true, but on linux you can get rid of them 13:10:31 <Mayflower> or even not have them in the first place 13:10:42 <Even> Yeah. 13:10:44 <flo> Mayflower: you said you aren't interested in Linux. Try to stay consistent in what you request ;) 13:10:55 <Even> That's why I told earlier that a 64bit version on Linux is sensitive. 13:11:01 <Even> We don't agree about Windows here. 13:11:43 <Even> We are likely to go for a 64bit version on Linux in the future. There is some talk about it here and there. 13:12:10 <Even> The main reason it's not done already is only we don't look forward the work it represents to maintain support right now. 13:12:33 <Even> The difference is that with Windows we can't even fathom the reason why we should do it. 13:12:39 <Mayflower> well, I want to be rid of anything that uses wow64, no point in having same libraries loaded twice into memory just because some apps refuse to move to 64bit 13:12:49 <Even> wow32 you mean. 13:13:08 <Even> Well, I hope you be successful in your noble quest. 13:13:14 <flo> Mayflower: sounds like installing another OS is the way to go if wow is really what you want to get rid of. 13:13:17 <Mayflower> wow32 runs 16bit apps 13:13:28 <Even> But I doubt it will come anytime soon. And mind me, it's not Ib that's going to be the latecomer there. 13:13:48 <Even> I believe we're only going to wait until there is a clear objective in achieving it :) 13:14:01 <Mayflower> see, wow64 -> http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa384249(v=vs.85).aspx 13:14:04 <Even> (and until it's fully supported by Mozilla too ^^) 13:15:32 <Mayflower> so your answer effectively is: it's not we who are blocking this change, it's the other guys 13:15:39 <Mayflower> :p 13:16:26 <Even> Nop. 13:16:51 <Even> It's that there is no clear movement on going forward to 64bits support and 32bit support is embbed in Windows 64 anyway. 13:16:53 <flo> Mayflower: my answer is "it would cost a lot of time, effort and even money to support it, for no identified benefit." 13:17:02 <Even> And some Windows 64 tools still depends on 32bits pieces. 13:17:09 <Even> So it won't be removed anytime soon. 13:17:34 <Even> Tanks, it summarize well ;) 13:17:35 <flo> we may have to worry about Windows 8's metro interface before Win64 ;) 13:17:49 <Even> lol, I agree with that 13:17:58 <Even> Stupid metro interface :( 13:18:25 <flo> or in short term, I may have to worry about renewing the ib.org ssl cert :( 13:18:30 --> Plop1 has joined #instantbird 13:18:54 <Even> This is an usual issue ^^ 13:19:01 <-- Plop has quit (Ping timeout) 13:19:06 <Even> The new thing is to apply it on two servers :) 13:20:00 <Even> About 64bits versions, I remember we talked about doing this at least on Mac. 13:20:19 <flo> Even: 3 servers 13:20:24 <Even> Is there any timeframe for this ? I believe we are missing on the hardware count there aren't we ? 13:20:33 <Even> flo: ow, yes 13:20:44 <flo> Even: we need to buy a new mac build machine for that, yes :( 13:20:52 <Even> flo: if you still intend to support the url mapping we have on yours 13:21:05 <flo> Even: we have blog.ib.org on mine 13:21:12 <flo> or does that not use ssl at all? 13:21:15 <Even> flo: does this even need SSL ? 13:21:21 <flo> I don't know 13:21:23 <flo> :) 13:21:28 <Even> flo: I don't believe it is needed 13:21:53 <Even> flo: If I'm right, we used it to map old update url for old versions of Instantbird to the new styled urls 13:22:14 <flo> that cert has expired a long time ago 13:22:29 <Even> flo: then there is no need to put any cert on your serv now 13:22:33 <Even> flo: that makes 2 :) 13:22:48 <flo> the reason we had it was to show the "over capacity" page for AIO at the time of the 1.0 release 13:23:18 <flo> hmm, apparently the current cert expires in 2 months 13:24:33 --> sonny has joined #instantbird 13:25:51 --> waynenguyen has joined #instantbird 13:29:42 <aleth> clokep_work: I don't think what I did differs from the tooltip case. Maybe if you closed the conversation before whois returned from the server, is that what you were thinking of? 13:33:40 <Mayflower> is xmpp authorization broken btw? it seemed like i didn't get authorization request of any kind when i was supposed to. 13:38:36 <Mayflower> and i haven't seen any way to open irc server "chat", which may be a problem if i connect to a server without any channels on auto-join and close the server window (which hopefully opened) without disconnecting. <_< 13:39:46 <Mayflower> not seeing anything related in bugzilla and my searching is not giving any good results 13:41:04 <flo> I don't see how that would be a problem 13:41:41 <Mayflower> connecting to irc server and not being able to join channels there after connecting isn't a problem? 13:41:57 <flo> File -> Join Chat 13:42:10 <Mayflower> oh 13:43:06 <Mayflower> hmm. guess that's it.. other related problem to that was my hope that the missing /whois would be shown there, but iirc it wasn't, so it doesn't matter then >_> 13:43:42 <flo> Mayflower: hover someone in the participant list for the whois 13:43:52 <flo> it will appear in a tooltip 13:44:52 <Mayflower> i can't hover over people who aren't on the channel i am in. e.g. if someone opens a query with me without being on same channel as i 13:45:30 <Mayflower> and /whowas probably doesn't work any better 13:46:56 <Mayflower> also, hunting for the channel they're in is not particularly fun either even if they are in one i'm in myself 13:47:11 <flo> aleth is working on a patch for that 13:49:45 <Mayflower> i guess this was my other problem, but with both accounts being xmpp https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=805 13:49:50 <instantbot> Bug 805 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Missing authorization request when being added (for Yahoo Messenger account) 13:50:09 <clokep_work> aleth: What I was thinking is if we never receive any response from the server (or if we got a nosuchnick error) 13:53:43 <Mayflower> i guess js-irc will solve the /whois problem indirectly.. 13:55:09 * clokep_work is confused by that... 13:55:49 <Mayflower> I have no idea. I guess it depends where the problem actually is. 13:59:43 <-- sonny has quit (Client exited) 14:02:36 <aleth> clokep_work: If you get a nosuchnick error there is no problem, because you also get an ENDOFWHOIS (according to RFC). If the server never responds, well... 14:05:13 <clokep_work> OK. :) 14:05:19 --> sonny has joined #instantbird 14:05:21 <clokep_work> I hope you're enjoying reading those RFCs btw. :) 14:05:46 <clokep_work> If the server never responds you're pretty much screwed, yeah. 14:08:33 <-- sonny has quit (Quit: Instantbird -- http://www.instantbird.com) 14:08:41 --> sonny has joined #instantbird 14:09:36 <-- Mayflower has left #instantbird (guess that's all I have, have fun with them bugs :)) 14:25:07 <instantbot> New Instantbird (UI) bug 1338 filed by florian@instantbird.org. 14:25:11 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1338 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Connect button is disabled after an account spends more than half a second in the disconnecting stat 14:52:57 <-- pvagner has quit (Ping timeout) 14:55:22 --> pvagner has joined #instantbird 15:01:16 <-- pvagner has quit (Ping timeout) 15:10:47 --> jb has joined #instantbird 15:17:56 <-- jb has quit (Quit: jb) 15:18:56 --> jb has joined #instantbird 15:19:40 --> jc has joined #instantbird 15:21:15 <aleth> Would it be a good idea if we did a WHOWAS automatically whenever WHOIS fails? 15:25:11 <aleth> Hmm, maybe not, so it is discoverable when someone is offline. 15:27:36 <clokep_work> aleth: I thought the same thing originally (only have one command which is /whois...if it fails, run /whowas.) 15:27:52 <clokep_work> I think it'd be nice to, but I think it needs a bit more thought then what's in that bug. :) 15:30:05 <-- mmkmou has quit (Quit: Instantbird -- http://www.instantbird.com) 15:30:18 --> mmkmou has joined #instantbird 15:31:06 <Even> clokep_work: that sounds great, but following this idea, it would be important to notice the user that it switched from one command to the other too 15:31:15 <Even> no need to write "whowas was called" 15:31:15 --> BYL has joined #instantbird 15:31:20 <Even> that wouldn't even help a lot of people 15:31:36 <clokep_work> Even: I'm confused...is it important or is it not? I feel like you said both things there. 15:31:40 --> BYM has joined #instantbird 15:31:49 <clokep_work> (And no, I wouldn't tell them...you'd just say "so-and-so WAS..." instead of "IS" 15:31:58 <-- BYK has quit (Ping timeout) 15:32:12 <Even> but maybe something like "<user> is not connected anymore, last time <user> was seen, its whois was : <whois>" 15:32:46 --> igorko has joined #instantbird 15:32:53 <Even> sry, I was still finishing my thought 15:32:55 <-- BYL has quit (Ping timeout) 15:32:59 <Even> but you answered before the end :) 15:33:23 <Even> the but [...] is going right after the "no need to write" stuff :) 15:34:41 * BYM is now known as BYK 15:35:05 <-- mmkmou has quit (Quit: Instantbird -- http://www.instantbird.com) 15:41:00 <-- Plop1 has quit (Ping timeout) 15:48:09 --> Plop has joined #instantbird 15:53:03 --> DGMurdockIII has joined #instantbird 15:53:09 <DGMurdockIII> hi 15:54:35 <clokep_work> Even: Yes, I agree 100%. :) 15:56:11 <Even> ^^ 15:57:11 <clokep_work> Someone should file a bug...before Mic comes in and steals it. 15:58:15 <flo> bah https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=735688 sucks :( 15:58:28 <flo> I just reproduced it twice in a row and can't reproduce it any more :( 15:59:01 <-- Plop has quit (Ping timeout) 16:04:17 <clokep_work> :-/ Yes that bug seemed really confusing when I read it. 16:04:28 <clokep_work> And I thought I used to get a lot of bugspam. :P 16:05:15 <flo> you used to get a lot of bugspam? 16:05:27 <flo> I would expect you to be getting more now ;) 16:06:55 <clokep_work> Exactly...I thought I /used/ to...but now I *really* do. 16:07:14 <-- jc has quit (Ping timeout) 16:07:26 <-- jb has quit (Ping timeout) 16:07:26 <-- sonny has quit (Quit: Instantbird -- http://www.instantbird.com) 16:08:42 <flo> if things are now like you thought they were, maybe it's an improvement? :) 16:11:10 <clokep_work> Haha. Yes, it's fine. :) Needed to shut off getting mail for ccs though in the IM component. 16:12:25 --> mikk_s has joined #instantbird 16:12:51 <-- mikk_s has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.1) 16:14:18 --> mmkmou has joined #instantbird 16:18:27 --> wesj has joined #instantbird 16:21:28 <clokep_work> flo: For https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=735998 I'm thinking we should handle that in jsProtoHelper? 16:21:51 <flo> why? 16:22:16 <clokep_work> Is it not something other protocols could run into? 16:22:31 <flo> I don't know where that comes from 16:22:37 <clokep_work> (Isn't it escaped in there for display in the conversation.) 16:22:41 <clokep_work> Ah, OK. 16:22:45 <clokep_work> Maybe I misunderstood the issue. 16:22:45 <flo> apparently we set the topic at http://lxr.instantbird.org/instantbird/source/chat/protocols/twitter/twitter.js#204 16:22:56 <clokep_work> There's a few places we set it, yeah. 16:23:04 <flo> is that data we receive from twitter HTML escaped or not? 16:23:15 --> myk has joined #instantbird 16:23:20 <clokep_work> I think it has HTML entities in it. 16:23:38 <clokep_work> I'll hopefully check it out soon. 16:28:40 --> pvagner has joined #instantbird 16:30:29 --> sonny has joined #instantbird 16:53:43 --> Mook_as has joined #instantbird 17:05:31 <DGMurdockIII> do any of you get on second life 17:07:29 <clokep_work> I do not, I can't speak for others. 17:07:42 <clokep_work> Don't they have some chat protocol though? :P 17:07:43 <Mook_as> I think I'd need to get a first life before that 17:07:55 <flo> sounds like a good plan 17:08:03 --> jb has joined #instantbird 17:08:30 <DGMurdockIII> clokep_work: yes 17:09:34 <DGMurdockIII> http://sourceforge.net/projects/pidgin-sl/ 17:10:41 * clokep_work wants a zero-th life first. 17:10:53 <clokep_work> We do start counting at 0 around here, right? :P 17:11:11 <flo> oh come on :-P 17:13:48 <DGMurdockIII> i want a a way to chat with my friends on seconds life 17:13:57 <-- igorko has quit (Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org) 17:14:12 <-- mmkmou has quit (Ping timeout) 17:14:27 <DGMurdockIII> with out having to be loged in to full feature client 17:14:37 <DGMurdockIII> there sourcer code is open source 17:14:53 <DGMurdockIII> therwe are some third party client that are text only 17:15:07 <Mook_as> DGMurdockIII: luckily, so is instantbird's source code. have fun! 17:16:03 <DGMurdockIII> i now that whi im looking to see if someone has made sothing to make this alot ease so it alot easer to implement 17:16:33 <-- Even has quit (Quit: Instantbird -- http://www.instantbird.com) 17:17:26 <DGMurdockIII> http://www.slitechat.org/llchatlib 17:22:00 <clokep_work> Mook_as: Nice. :) 17:22:17 <clokep_work> DGMurdockIII: It's not too difficult to add a protocol, you could either try compiling that libpurple one you found or make one from scratch. 17:22:27 <clokep_work> If the protocol is sane (say...JSON based :-D) it would be really easy. 17:45:06 --> Even has joined #instantbird 17:45:06 * ChanServ sets mode +o Even 17:57:35 <-- myk has quit (Input/output error) 18:01:36 <-- jb has quit (Ping timeout) 18:05:33 --> mikk_s has joined #instantbird 18:05:46 <-- mikk_s has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.1) 18:09:03 <-- Yoric has quit (Input/output error) 18:09:11 <-- gerard-majax has quit (Ping timeout) 18:13:33 --> FeuerFliege has joined #instantbird 18:24:39 --> myk has joined #instantbird 18:28:45 <-- flo has quit (Quit: Instantbird -- http://www.instantbird.com) 18:30:43 --> Mnyromyr has joined #instantbird 18:32:09 <-- myk has quit (Quit: Instantbird -- http://www.instantbird.com) 18:32:13 --> myk has joined #instantbird 18:32:52 <myk> if i "/query nick" i now get a new nick tab, but i can't enter anything into it 18:33:06 <myk> and if i subsequently "/query nick message" i get another tab into which i'm able to type 18:37:26 <clokep_work> myk: Well you only asked for it to be brought up! Not that you wanted to type in it too. :P 18:37:41 <clokep_work> (I'm pretty sure I checked that when I tested the patch...but I'l try it again tonight. :)) 18:38:27 <-- BYK has quit (Quit: Instantbird -- http://www.instantbird.com) 18:40:45 <myk> clokep_work: the error message i get when i try is: 18:40:45 <myk> Error: IRC parameters cannot have spaces: clokep_work 18:40:45 <myk> Source File: jar:file:///Applications/Instantbird.app/Contents/MacOS/omni.jar!/components/irc.js 18:40:45 <myk> Line: 737 18:40:46 <myk> Source Code: 18:40:46 <myk> irc 18:40:57 <myk> and then: 18:40:58 <myk> Error: uncaught exception: [Exception... "'[JavaScript Error: "aStr is null" {file: "jar:file:///Applications/Instantbird.app/Contents/MacOS/omni.jar!/components/irc.js" line: 575}]' when calling method: [prplIConversation::sendMsg]" nsresult: "0x80570021 (NS_ERROR_XPC_JAVASCRIPT_ERROR_WITH_DETAILS)" location: "JS frame :: jar:file:///Applications/Instantbird.app/Contents/MacOS/omni.jar!/components/imConversations.js :: <TOP_L 18:42:55 <-- chrisccoulson has quit (Quit: Ex-Chat) 18:44:00 --> chrisccoulson has joined #instantbird 18:45:10 <-- chrisccoulson has quit (Client exited) 18:45:14 --> chrisccoulson has joined #instantbird 18:45:20 --> igorko has joined #instantbird 18:49:59 <-- Even has quit (Ping timeout) 18:50:36 --> Even has joined #instantbird 18:50:37 * ChanServ sets mode +o Even 18:50:43 <clokep_work> Hmmm....the exact message you typed in was "/query clokep_work"? 18:55:52 <myk> clokep_work: "/query clokep_work " 18:55:57 <-- Even has quit (Ping timeout) 18:55:58 <myk> clokep_work: note the extra space at the end 18:56:03 <-- Tonnes has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88.1 [Firefox 11.0/20120312181643]) 18:56:07 <myk> clokep_work: it's because i used nick completion to complete the nick 18:56:08 <clokep_work> Yeah, I think we're not handling that right now. That's the issue. 18:56:48 <-- FeuerFliege has quit (Connection reset by peer) 18:56:59 --> mmkmou has joined #instantbird 18:57:11 <aleth> Oh dear, I think I tested that, but it was with the trim() version of the patch :( 18:57:33 <aleth> And so it worked of course. 18:59:08 <clokep_work> It should be fairly easy to fix (a check of in sep == .length) 18:59:36 --> Even has joined #instantbird 18:59:36 * ChanServ sets mode +o Even 18:59:37 <aleth> Or just a trim() in the "no message" casse. 19:00:55 --> Tonnes has joined #instantbird 19:03:06 <clokep_work> Yes, just make sure it's going into that case first. :) 19:06:11 <-- mmkmou has quit (Ping timeout) 19:14:24 <-- aleth has quit (Quit: Instantbird -- http://www.instantbird.com) 19:38:07 * jwir3|away is now known as jwir3 19:42:50 <DGMurdockIII> clokep_work: http://forums.unrealircd.com/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=4390 19:44:00 <DGMurdockIII> http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc1459#section-4.5 19:45:32 <clokep_work> DGMurdockIII: ....? 19:45:36 <clokep_work> What is this in reference to? 19:46:00 <DGMurdockIII> query 19:46:10 <clokep_work> What...? 19:46:38 <Mook_as> he's just being himself ;) 19:46:53 <clokep_work> That RFC is out of date, 2812 is the updated one. 19:46:58 <clokep_work> I'm not sure what the other link is. 19:47:10 <clokep_work> We were discussing using the /query command in Instantbird, which has nothing to do with the spec. 19:47:23 <clokep_work> There's not query command in IRC IIRC. 19:47:38 <clokep_work> (If there was /query would certainly be a bad name for a command. :-D) 19:48:21 <DGMurdockIII> yeah the /query in instantbird in irc dose all it dose it open a new blank chat window with the person 19:49:33 <clokep_work> Yes, it's an alias for /msg. 19:59:14 --> flo has joined #instantbird 19:59:14 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo flo 20:00:22 <flo> Mook_as: ;) 20:01:01 <flo> ah, that's almost 15 minutes later. It seemed to be happening almost now in the log :-/ 20:10:24 <-- DGMurdockIII has quit (Quit: Instantbird -- http://www.instantbird.com) 20:10:34 <-- Even has quit (Ping timeout) 20:18:05 <flo> oh, DGMurdockIII wasn't using his usual crappy irc client :) 20:23:03 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 20:23:03 * ChanServ sets mode +h aleth 20:29:13 <-- aleth has quit (Quit: Instantbird -- http://www.instantbird.com) 20:29:23 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 20:29:23 * ChanServ sets mode +h aleth 20:32:26 <-- clokep_work has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 20:46:32 <instantbot> aletheia2@fastmail.fm requested review from clokep@gmail.com for attachment 1255 on bug 1328. 20:46:35 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1328 min, --, 1.2, aletheia2, RESO FIXED, /msg <nick> should open an empty conversation tab 20:47:03 <instantbot> aletheia2@fastmail.fm cleared the Resolution 'FIXED' from bug 1328. 20:56:56 <-- flo has quit (Ping timeout) 20:57:25 --> mmkmou has joined #instantbird 21:04:58 <instantbot> aletheia2@fastmail.fm cancelled review?(clokep@gmail.com) for attachment 1252 on bug 1332. 21:05:01 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1332 nor, --, ---, aletheia2, ASSI, Implement /whois and /whowas commands 21:08:58 <-- mmkmou has quit (Ping timeout) 21:10:17 <-- SM0TVI has quit (Quit: I view things as they are, without regard to place or person; my country is the world, and my religion is to do good. -- Thomas Paine (*1737 â 1809)) 21:11:46 --> SM0TVI has joined #instantbird 21:30:25 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 21:30:25 * ChanServ sets mode +o clokep 21:42:55 <-- chrisccoulson has quit (Ping timeout) 21:43:06 --> chrisccoulson has joined #instantbird 21:45:06 <clokep> aleth: How do you make your patches? I can never apply them. 21:45:22 <aleth> clokep: umm, git diff? 21:45:50 <clokep> aleth: https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/attachment.cgi?id=1255 doesn't have the top level directory so it fails to apply. 21:46:09 <Mook_as> -p1 ? 21:46:31 <clokep> Mook_as: ??? 21:46:48 <Mook_as> oh, I'm crazy 21:47:25 <Mook_as> it's just that the git repo was in https://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/file/default/instantbird for some reason, huh 21:47:50 --> Tomek has joined #instantbird 21:48:25 <clokep> There's probably a way to force it to a directory, but I don't know how to... 21:49:17 <Mook_as> just use `patch` ;) 21:49:27 <Mook_as> (i.e. not from hg / git) 21:49:54 <clokep> Mook_as: I can never get unified diffs to apply with patch, what's the syntax to use? 21:50:03 <Mook_as> patch -p1 -i $filename ? 21:50:27 <Mook_as> might want to use --dry-run first to check, I guess 21:50:32 <clokep> It's asking me for the file to patch. 21:50:51 <Mook_as> then you didn't start out in the right directory :p 21:51:04 <Mook_as> (I'd ^C at that point) 21:51:19 <aleth> clokep: git apply? 21:51:28 <clokep> Ah wait. 21:51:33 <aleth> But if as use hg, I don't know. 21:51:34 <clokep> No...the directory is toally wrong. 21:51:36 <aleth> oops? 21:51:40 <clokep> modules/ircCommands.jsm doesn't exist at all. 21:51:47 <aleth> But if you use hg... 21:51:47 <clokep> It's chat/protocols/irc/ircCommands.js 21:51:57 <aleth> Ah, I know what it is 21:52:02 <clokep> OK... 21:52:05 <clokep> I'll just edit the patch, it's fine. 21:52:10 <Mook_as> hehe 21:52:46 <aleth> It's because I don't have a build environment, therefore the paths correspond to not to those in the hg repo, but to those in the final build 21:52:48 <clokep> It applied aleth :P 21:52:56 <clokep> Yeah, I just got really confused. :) 21:52:58 * clokep is tired today. 21:56:37 <-- Mnyromyr has quit (Ping timeout) 21:57:11 <instantbot> clokep@gmail.com granted review for attachment 1255 on bug 1328. 21:57:14 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1328 min, --, 1.2, aletheia2, REOP, /msg <nick> should open an empty conversation tab 21:57:24 * jwir3 is now known as jwir3|away 21:59:37 --> jb has joined #instantbird 22:16:44 --> Mnyromyr has joined #instantbird 22:21:10 <-- igorko has quit (Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org) 22:48:18 <-- jb has quit (Ping timeout) 22:55:24 --> jb has joined #instantbird 23:11:18 <aleth> clokep: Any reason you can't r+ the patch in bug 1293? It might not be a complete fix, but it improves things and it adds the whowas equivalent which was missing from the original patch 23:11:20 <-- Mnyromyr has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [SeaMonkey 1.1.19/2010030105]) 23:11:23 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1293 enh, --, 1.2, clokep, REOP, Tooltip improvements for IRC 23:11:53 <aleth> Otherwise I have to put the latter into the whois patch, where it doesn't really belong 23:12:30 <clokep> aleth: Right...uhhh....let me look at it again. 23:12:35 <clokep> I'm making green beans one second. 23:13:07 <aleth> Don't let me interrupt your dinner ;) 23:13:41 <clokep> Eh, I live by myself...not a big deal...just don't want them to get too soft. 23:17:56 <instantbot> clokep@gmail.com granted review for attachment 1248 on bug 1293. 23:17:58 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1293 enh, --, 1.2, clokep, REOP, Tooltip improvements for IRC 23:18:05 <-- jb has quit (Ping timeout) 23:18:14 <aleth> Thanks! 23:18:18 <clokep> No problem. :) 23:18:22 <clokep> Sorry I've been terrible at reviews. 23:18:53 <aleth> Well this one wasn't a completely satisfactory fix, more like a followup... 23:19:00 <clokep> Yup. 23:20:53 <aleth> But it looks like flo has gone already, so it won't be in tomorrows nightly anyway. 23:21:34 <-- sonny has quit (Ping timeout) 23:24:59 <clokep> Right. 23:25:17 <clokep> I'm going to try your patch with the context messages now... 23:25:42 <aleth> That one is a lot of work to test... so many permutations 23:27:17 <clokep> I know. :-/ 23:29:04 <clokep> Plus I need to get context some how... 23:29:19 <aleth> That's easy... log onto #ubuntu ;) 23:29:29 <clokep> I was going to log into #test. 23:33:58 <clokep> I think the ONLY thing I miss from git when using hg is "git clean"... 23:40:23 <clokep> Bah...themes are really different when packed. :( 23:40:49 <aleth> hg purge? But I've never used hg so I can't say... 23:40:58 <clokep> Yeah it kind of does it. 23:41:05 <clokep> But you have to enable it I think... 23:41:13 <clokep> But "git clean -xdf" is awfully useful. ;) 23:41:18 <clokep> I use it constantly at work haha 23:41:19 <aleth> Yes :) 23:44:48 * clokep is confused that only half that patch got applied... 23:53:29 --> jb has joined #instantbird 23:55:13 <-- jb has quit (Ping timeout)