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12:58:04 <clokep_work> Hello.
13:05:03 <aleth> Hello clokep_work 
13:14:08 <instantbot> New Instantbird (UI) bug 1265 filed by benediktp@ymail.com.
13:14:11 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1265 enh, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Optimize CSS of messagestyle themes
13:15:12 <clokep_work> Did we not have a bug about that already? P
13:16:48 <Mic> hmm :S
13:16:51 <Mic> That would be bad
13:17:52 <clokep_work> Just mean we dup it.
13:17:57 <clokep_work> But I thought we had one about that already. :(
13:18:53 <Mic> I can't find it looking for either CSS or messagestyle, maybe we just didn't file it
13:19:36 <Mic> hehe, my favourite summary is still that of bug 829 ;)
13:19:40 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=829 min, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Time bubbles doesn't like messages from the future
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13:50:51 <clokep_work> Mic: Yeah we probably didn't.
13:50:54 <clokep_work> Just talked abou tit.
13:54:32 <aleth> clokep_work: Yeah, the bug you recall might have been my tidying up of some other CSS files
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14:22:09 <Mic> The ::outside pseudo-element that I've found <a href="http://www.w3.org/TR/css3-content/#wrapping">here </a> but the web knows nothing about it :( 
14:22:17 <Mic> d'oh
14:22:36 <clokep_work> outside? What's that do?
14:22:47 <Mic> It would be cool to have, I meant. I figured out that it is a draft ;)
14:23:19 <Mic> It allows to insert a pseudo-element around of another element and e.g. insert something before of another element.
14:25:29 <Mic> The message itself was intended to be sent using /raw btw ... ;)
14:26:43 <flo> ah, so the apparent HTML code isn't an instantbird bug? :)
14:27:06 <Mic> Yes, it worked fine on a test channel ..
14:27:33 <clokep_work> There is a ::before pseudo-element I think.
14:27:36 <flo> is IRC expected to support HTML?
14:27:42 <clokep_work> No.
14:27:57 <clokep_work> It should be passed as plain text.
14:28:08 <clokep_work> (And displayed as raw text on receive.)
14:28:14 <clokep_work> Meaning that Instantbird will make them into entities.
14:28:46 <Mic> Does that mean it *shouldn't* have worked?
14:30:25 <Mic> clokep: ::before (= :before) inserts something as first child of the node it matched.
14:30:50 <clokep_work> I don't know what you pasted. :P
14:31:04 * clokep_work will be back.
14:31:12 <Mic> Here is a search engine <http://www.google.com>
14:31:43 <Mic> I pasted this: /raw Here is a <a href="http://www.google.com">search engine</a> and it shows a link in my window, maybe that's a local thing?
14:34:52 <flo> Mic: look at what instantbot has logged for each of your messages? :)
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15:49:42 <clokep_work> Mic: It might not go through the exact same serialization routine. :-/
15:58:34 <clokep_work> So IRC has no concept of link sor anything like that, but it's definitely a bug that you see something different then the way it is sent. :(
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17:24:45 <flo> by the way, anybody wanting to do a "meeting"?
17:26:54 <aleth> I'm around for the next 30 minutes or so
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17:29:26 <flo> I'm around for the next hour or so, but has anybody questions/issues to discuss?
17:30:37 <aleth> Nothing outside what's covered in various bugs really
17:31:21 <aleth> Anything exciting TB-related happen last week that might also apply to IB?
17:32:42 <flo> some UI discussions that gave me ideas of how to replace our conversation window status bar, and make our twitter timeline more accessible
17:32:49 <flo> but nothing super exciting
17:35:21 <flo> some work toward the security review of IM in Tb has uncovered a serious issue (and I'm trying to fix it now but haven't succeeded yet), but I don't want to talk about that in public
17:35:41 <aleth> Good that it got spotted :)
17:36:21 <flo> yeah
17:41:12 <aleth> I was wondering a while back whether the conversation browser content has full chrome privileges or not, since I noticed a related discussion for pdf.js
17:43:51 <aleth> But I don't understand the surrounding distinctions very well yet
17:44:33 <aleth> so I can't even phrase the question precisely ;)
17:45:16 <flo> if you still have a link to that discussion, I would be curious to see if they had anything interesting to say
17:45:57 <Mook_as> as of 1.1, type="content-conversation" - so it's probably fine (it's got half chrome privs, I think - a chrome: uri but docshell type content)
17:46:10 <flo> I think the conversation browser content currently has full chrome privileges, which is something I would like to change, but that isn't dangerous in itself as all the content is filtered before being included there
17:46:42 <aleth> flo: It was somewhere in here, sorry I don't remember which issue it was precisely https://github.com/mozilla/pdf.js/issues
17:46:43 <flo> Mook_as: what do I need to do to prevent access to "Components"? Stop using chrome://?
17:46:56 <Mook_as> I think so, yeah
17:47:18 <Mook_as> about:blank is probably the best bet, I think? not sure.
17:48:29 <flo> hmm
17:48:44 <flo> about:blank didn't work because we need to reference CSS files that are in chrome:// :(
17:49:05 <Mook_as> separate package, contentaccessible=true?
17:49:41 <flo> isn't that going away soon?
17:50:14 <Mook_as> is it? :(
17:50:29 <Mook_as> haven't heard anything about that - and mailnews guys should hopefully know, they still use http://mxr.mozilla.org/comm-central/source/mail/base/jar.mn#2
17:50:36 <flo> not sure, I may be confusing that with something else
17:50:51 <Mook_as> (to solve, in fact, exactly the same problem)
17:51:20 <flo> hmm, if I do that, I'm actually breaking all existing message themes, right? :-/
17:52:02 <Mook_as> if you do, please make it so it's less insane to rebuild scrollback backwards :p
17:52:22 <flo> and so that they install restartless ;)
17:52:46 <aleth> flo: This was two of the related ones: https://github.com/mozilla/pdf.js/pull/1118 and https://github.com/mozilla/pdf.js/issues/1087
17:52:57 <aleth> Of course their issues are different
17:53:27 <aleth> It was just what set me wondering...
17:54:35 <aleth> Though this link might have something useful in it https://developer.mozilla.org/En/Displaying_web_content_in_an_extension_without_security_issues
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17:58:00 <flo> I read that too already :)
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18:09:00 <clokep_work> Sorry, wasn't at my desk.
18:09:10 <clokep_work> I had nothing to talk about really except if we have a plan for 1.2 or if we'd like to push it back a bit?
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18:10:12 <flo> I don't think there's a plan right now
18:10:28 <flo> as whatever we want to do for 1.2, there's a significant amount of work involved before being able to release
18:10:42 <flo> (and yes, that sucks :()
18:10:49 <clokep_work> Right. :-/ We definitely have some regressions that need to be fixed also...
18:12:48 <flo> I don't remember the result of our discussion for bug 1178
18:12:52 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1178 maj, --, ---, clokep, ASSI, Regression: renamed contacts disappear from list
18:13:03 <flo> I've no idea for bug 1089
18:13:06 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1089 cri, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Crash [@ ssl_nss_handshake_cb]
18:16:10 <flo> Mook_as: do you think we could dynamically add the contentaccessible flag on all messagestyles-* chrome packages?
18:16:38 <Mook_as> hmm, I suspect not
18:17:00 <flo> hmm, is it even possible to unregister a chrome package?
18:17:06 <Mook_as> ooh http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/chrome/public/nsIChromeRegistry.idl#105
18:17:59 <Mook_as> hmm, no, that's backwards - it's a getter, not a setter
18:18:12 <flo> I was looking at the exact same thing :-|
18:21:13 <Mook_as> I guess you can try nsIComponentRegistrar::autoRegister? :(
18:29:08 <flo> how would that change the contentaccessible flag?
18:32:51 <Mook_as> I'm assuming that will re-parse the .manifest file you throw at it (which means you need to write out a temporary one with the fixed flags... ick
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18:36:13 <flo> I won't feel better with such a solution ;)
18:36:57 <Mook_as> you seem to be under the mistaken impression that I'm trying to suggest good solutions, rather than just possible solutions :p
18:37:29 <flo> Mook_as: I was under the impression that we are brainstorming at this point :)
18:37:34 <Mook_as> there's always "file a bug to allow these flags to get changed at runtime", I guess? :p
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18:38:38 <flo> that's rarely a solution if we skip the write a patch *and at test* steps ;)
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18:47:48 <clokep_work> flo: I think bug 1178 was waiting for a review from you. ;)
18:47:52 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1178 maj, --, ---, clokep, ASSI, Regression: renamed contacts disappear from list
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18:56:44 <aleth> There are also blob:, moz-filedata:, and resource: url types, for which documentation is hard to find
18:57:49 <aleth> well, apart from this http://www.w3.org/TR/FileAPI/#dfn-Blob
18:58:26 <aleth> Not sure if that is relevant or useful ...
19:02:44 <Mook_as> blob: and moz-filedata: are basically internal protocol handlers that we can't usefully touch, I think
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19:21:00 <aleth> Bug 883: couldn't that be marked resolved?
19:21:03 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=883 min, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, scrolling conversation content inches upward
19:22:41 <clokep_work> Yes. I think so.
19:23:15 <aleth> Unless a transition of some sort would make the scrolling even smoother? But I doubt there is smoother than pixel by pixel.
19:23:30 <aleth> ;)
19:24:34 <clokep_work> It wouldn't be.
19:24:49 <clokep_work> I'd mark it as resolved and say something about opening a new bug if subpixel anti-aliasing is available.
19:25:43 <aleth> I think the comment about it being horizontal only is correct for most devices.
19:26:49 <clokep_work> Mark it as WONTFIX then please. :)
19:27:52 <aleth> Yes, that's what I thought.
19:29:21 <aleth> Just stumbled over the bug searching for 'scroll'...
19:30:26 <clokep_work> Yup.
19:30:33 <clokep_work> Good to triage them when we come across them. :)
19:30:39 <clokep_work> We should do a search for UNCONFIRMED in fact.
19:30:43 <clokep_work> And triage them all.
19:30:46 <clokep_work> (If you're bored... ;))
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19:34:50 <instantbot> aletheia2@fastmail.fm set the Resolution field on bug 883 to WONTFIX.
19:34:53 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=883 min, --, ---, nobody, RESO WONTFIX, scrolling conversation content inches upward
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19:37:01 <aleth> There aren't actually that many unconfirmed bugs!
19:37:20 <clokep_work> Oh? That's good.
19:37:48 <aleth> So I'll venture to look through them.
19:37:52 <clokep_work> I see 94.
19:37:54 <clokep_work> That's a lot. :(
19:37:58 <clokep_work> ~ 1/5 of all open bugs.
19:39:05 <aleth> Oh. I must have had incomplete search parameters then.
19:40:24 <clokep_work> THere's a saved search for it. :)
19:40:28 <clokep_work> You can turn it on in your prefs.
19:40:39 <instantbot> aletheia2@fastmail.fm set the Resolution field on bug 1188 to INVALID.
19:40:42 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1188 min, --, ---, nobody, RESO INVALID, Show Log Folder Button not opening a File Manager
19:41:12 <clokep_work> aleth: Preferences, Saved Searches tab, Mic has one shared.
19:42:06 <aleth> clokep_work: Yes, found it. Actually it turns out I had some defaults set by accident that I didn't know about ;)
19:42:38 <aleth> 93 is indeed plenty :(
19:44:59 <clokep_work> Yup.
19:45:19 <clokep_work> Idk about bug 1188, perhaps we should update it for the updated code. But sounds more like broken OS to me.
19:45:22 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1188 min, --, ---, nobody, RESO INVALID, Show Log Folder Button not opening a File Manager
19:48:04 <aleth> I think updating that code would be a separate bug really.
19:48:24 <clokep_work> Bah I think bug 755 is that the 32-bit compatibility library wasn't installed.
19:48:27 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=755 maj, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, can't find libraries on Fedora 14
19:48:28 <clokep_work> Sucks that we never replied to that. :(
19:48:59 <aleth> Not replying to bugs is bad anyway :(
19:49:39 <instantbot> aletheia2@fastmail.fm set the Resolution field on bug 924 to WONTFIX.
19:49:41 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=924 nor, --, ---, nobody, RESO WONTFIX, Add "join chat" to context menu in Accounts window
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19:53:22 <aleth> Should bug 1100 be unconfirmed?
19:53:25 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1100 cri, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, XMPP protocol login Error: SSL Handshake failed
19:54:36 <clokep_work> Bah Idk.
19:55:06 <aleth> You marked another bug as a dupe of it, so I guess it was confirmed?
19:55:10 <clokep_work> aleth: Confirm it, but add something in the title about popping up the cert dialog?
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19:55:13 <aleth> But should probably be retitled
19:55:20 <clokep_work> Yes. :)
19:58:53 <clokep_work> aleth: Also, just be careful with your wording in bugs. "There are better things to do" sounds like "This isn't worth our time", but I'm fairly certain you meant "There are better solutions to handle the join chat situation". :)
19:59:01 <clokep_work> Ah.
19:59:07 <clokep_work> It was your bug and you were the only one that replied in it.
19:59:11 <aleth> Yes :)
19:59:12 <clokep_work> Never mind. ;) Haha.
19:59:23 <flo> so it's wontfix-party time? ;)
20:00:21 <instantbot> aletheia2@fastmail.fm set the Resolution field on bug 439 to WONTFIX.
20:00:23 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=439 enh, --, ---, nobody, RESO WONTFIX, Close tab icon on hover
20:00:59 <flo> aleth: I would probably have accepted a patch for that "Join Chat" context menu
20:04:01 <flo> does Firefox really has an untrusted cert dialog?
20:05:03 <aleth> It displays up an error page from which you can open a "make an exception" dialog afaik
20:06:43 <clokep_work> Yes.
20:10:02 <flo> ah, that dialog
20:10:12 <flo> isn't it horribly confusing? :-/
20:10:53 <aleth> flo: Re the Join Chat context menu, I've been slowly going through the bugs I filed fixing them, but I don't think I can be bothered about that one. And since nobody else even replied to the bug...
20:11:25 <aleth> Yes it is confusing.
20:12:01 <clokep_work> Is bug 1155 just asking for MUCs to be able to pop up a window when you receive a message?
20:12:05 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1155 nor, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, Twitter pop-up notifications
20:12:06 <clokep_work> Is that not currently supported?
20:13:04 <aleth> Doesn't Mic's add-on do that?
20:14:17 <clokep_work> Buddy Status shows statuses only. ;)
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20:20:50 <flo> aleth: yes, I don't think it's worth our time. I just wouldn't have dared closing your bug for that reason :)
20:21:09 <aleth> That's why I did it myself :)
20:21:30 <instantbot> aletheia2@fastmail.fm set the Resolution field on bug 1129 to DUPLICATE of bug 1111.
20:21:33 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1129 min, --, ---, nobody, RESO DUPLICATE, Installing add-ons and themes is too difficult
20:21:34 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1111 enh, --, ---, raynaudquentin, NEW, [Meta] Improve add-on installation experience
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20:24:01 <flo> clokep_work: bug 1155 really isn't clear. I first thought it was a duplicate of the twitter plugin not setting the containsNick flag. But then it seems to be asking to be notified for *all* messages, in which case it's clearly something for an add-on
20:24:06 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1155 nor, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, Twitter pop-up notifications
20:24:15 <flo> but maybe highlight already does that
20:26:26 <clokep_work> flo: I thought it just wanted a pop-up (like buddy status) for new Tweets.
20:27:42 <aleth> Can anyone usefully respond to bug 1106?
20:27:47 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1106 nor, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, blank line in conversation chat window for jabber protocol
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20:28:56 <clokep_work> aleth: I can.
20:29:14 <clokep_work> aleth: No, I cant. :P
20:29:34 <aleth> Ditto bug 974, just so that people get a response.
20:29:37 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=974 nor, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, Meebo issues - instantbird says conencted - meebo me says offline
20:29:56 <aleth> And bug 953
20:30:00 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=953 nor, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, ! encoded to %21 in links in chat, breaking them on lazier sites
20:33:04 <clokep_work> aleth: I have no idea what bug 974 is saying.
20:33:08 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=974 nor, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, Meebo issues - instantbird says conencted - meebo me says offline
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20:34:42 <instantbot> aletheia2@fastmail.fm set the Resolution field on bug 1156 to DUPLICATE of bug 307.
20:34:44 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1156 nor, --, ---, nobody, RESO DUPLICATE, Remember  individual window position and size
20:34:45 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=307 enh, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Restoring session after restart
20:36:26 <aleth> clokep_work: But if it's not clear even to you what it is saying, shouldn't one respond with a request to clarify?
20:37:09 <flo> these 2 aren't really identical 
20:37:31 <flo> I think 307 wants us to reopen the conversations after a restart
20:37:53 <flo> and 1156 just wants each window to reappear at the same place the next time it's used
20:38:36 <aleth> flo: But what he's actually asking for is an easy way to restore his multi-window layout after a restart.
20:38:47 <flo> yeah
20:38:58 <flo> the annoyance is the same, the request is not
20:39:02 <aleth> Which is certainly part of 307 and hard to do without
20:39:16 <aleth> So I asked him to reopen it if he felt it was not covered by it.
20:39:33 <flo> remembering in which window was each conversation, and the size/position of each window is what Nicolas is supposed to work on
20:39:54 <aleth> Nicolas is doing session restore? Nice :)
20:40:02 <aleth> At least a part of it...
20:41:18 <clokep_work> I think I agree that those are dups...we can't remember the size of multiple conversation windows w/o knowing the size, etc.
20:41:37 <aleth> Is  bug 1106 really a regression in 1.2 as reported?
20:41:44 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1106 nor, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, blank line in conversation chat window for jabber protocol
20:42:56 <aleth> uh sorry, not that one
20:43:06 <aleth> bug 1205
20:43:10 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1205 nor, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, Cyrillic support in alias and buddy list broken
20:43:55 <flo> I think a comment there says it's likely a dup of 1178
20:44:26 <aleth> flo: There is no response there
20:44:28 <flo> clokep_work: I know there's a r? in there, but I thought we discussed the patch over IRC and there was a problem with the approach (like "it breaks the animation")
20:45:48 <flo> ooooh, that alias!
20:47:49 <flo> I marked it as 1.2 blocking
20:48:00 <flo> what blocks is checking if we can reproduce though
20:48:30 <flo> (ie, use an old nightly, set a display name and account aliases that contain non-ascii characters, update, see if they are ok)
20:51:52 <aleth> Should bug 1240 be 'major' as ecaron marked it? In that case, would it be on the 1.2 list?
20:51:57 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1240 maj, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, Invites from Google Talk (in Google App account) are lost by Instantbird
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20:55:56 <flo> severity is mostly irrelevant in UNCO bugs
20:56:27 <flo> as it's more or less assumed that people without editbugs haven't read what the values mean
21:00:16 * clokep_work was supposed to verify that bug. :(
21:00:59 <clokep_work> flo: We discussed the previous iteration. I don't think that version breaks an animation.
21:05:45 <clokep_work> Yeah flo: https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1178#c6 says that it doesn't break the animation, but the new contact appears before the old one is gone.
21:05:50 <instantbot> Bug 1178 maj, --, ---, clokep, ASSI, Regression: renamed contacts disappear from list
21:05:53 <clokep_work> (Maybe that "breaks" the animation, but it's not too bad.)
21:07:10 <flo> the animation was designed so that the total height stays constant, so that if something moves inside a group, other groups don't jump
21:07:47 <clokep_work> Then, yes. It breaks that. :)
21:08:41 <flo> then r- :-P
21:09:07 <flo> which is sad because it may mean that I'll have to look at it :(
21:09:17 <flo> (but I would probably have to anyway to do the review)
21:10:09 <clokep_work> I'm out of ideas at this point.
21:10:17 <clokep_work> So I'd appreciate it if you could look at it. :)
21:11:00 <clokep_work> aleth: Btw if there are bugs asking for more info without a reply in a long time (Idk, say six months)? Just mark it as INVALID without enough info.
21:11:18 <instantbot> aletheia2@fastmail.fm set the Resolution field on bug 348 to DUPLICATE of bug 350.
21:11:20 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=348 nor, --, ---, nobody, RESO DUPLICATE, Reconnect not working with gadu-gadu
21:11:21 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=350 nor, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, IB crashes while adding 4-digit gadu-gadu buddies
21:11:53 <aleth> clokep_work: OK. That guy responded (last time he was asked, which was ages ago).
21:12:03 <clokep_work> aleth: Those don't look like dups at all. :-/
21:12:21 <clokep_work> Ah, it does.
21:12:26 <clokep_work> I didn't see the 4-digit comment.
21:14:54 <flo> clokep_work: don't we have INCOMPLETE for that case?
21:17:14 <clokep_work> flo: Ah, I think you're right. :)
21:17:20 <clokep_work> aleth Use that instead. ^
21:18:21 <aleth> Bug 837 - wontfix or wanted feature?
21:18:24 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=837 enh, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, Change to the conversation recently open on IRC
21:19:11 <clokep_work> I personally like it opening in the background.
21:19:23 <clokep_work> But it makes sense that if you open a conversation manually you want it to focused.
21:21:10 <aleth> I don't mind it in the background either, but 'Join Chat' focuses new conversations too.
21:22:06 <clokep_work> They use different code paths. :-/ The commands are part of the protocols...
21:22:40 <instantbot> aletheia2@fastmail.fm set the Resolution field on bug 936 to WONTFIX.
21:22:43 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=936 nor, --, ---, nobody, RESO WONTFIX, Ctrl tab keyboard navigation does not take you to latest message
21:23:03 <aleth> Actually, should that have been 'invalid'?
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21:30:43 <clokep_work> aleth: No, WONTFIX is right there.
21:30:50 <clokep_work> INVALID is for bug repotrs which make no sense usually.
21:30:56 <clokep_work> And INCOMPLETE is if there's not enough info.
21:31:09 <clokep_work> WONTFIX is a valid request that we're not willing to change behavior for, etc.
21:33:03 <aleth> Now down to 84 unconfirmed bugs... That's all I have time for right now
21:35:58 <clokep_work> Thanks for the effort. :)
21:36:03 <instantbot> aletheia2@fastmail.fm set the Resolution field on bug 1155 to WONTFIX.
21:36:04 <aleth> Ah, forgot to close that tab.
21:36:05 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1155 nor, --, ---, nobody, RESO WONTFIX, Twitter pop-up notifications
21:36:27 <clokep_work> aleth: Doesn't Instantbird already provide a way to get a pop up for each message?
21:36:34 <aleth> Does it?
21:36:38 <aleth> I had no idea.
21:37:15 <aleth> Tell deOmega how to turn it on then? ;)
21:37:59 <clokep_work> I think it's only for IMs, not for MUCs.
21:38:08 <clokep_work> But I don't know.
21:38:53 <douglaswth> it does highlights in MUCs
21:39:09 <clokep_work> I don't know what you mean by that.
21:42:49 <douglaswth> when I say clokep_work it highlights you
21:43:22 <clokep_work> Do you mean that it makes the text bold or that it "notifies" me via the Windows taskbar esque stuff?
21:44:01 <flo> there's also a popup notification ;)
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22:03:21 <flo> Good night :)
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23:15:48 <instantbot> benediktp@ymail.com set the Resolution field on bug 356 to DUPLICATE of bug 1252.
23:15:51 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=356 tri, --, ---, nobody, RESO DUPLICATE, Doesn't highlight first item in log file list
23:15:52 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1252 nor, --, ---, aletheia2, ASSI, First listitem in log viewer never shows that it is selected
23:16:39 <aleth> That hasn't actually landed yet ;)
23:17:04 <Mic> It's a dupe anyways ;)
23:17:19 <Mic> Do you see bug 365 by the way?
23:17:22 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=365 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Checkmark on status popup hidden behind status icon
23:18:28 <Mic> I don't have checkmarks here on Windows .. I wonder if something was fixed there already. I remember we had problems with this once on Windows too
23:19:02 <aleth> I don't see a checkmark, nor does it look broken
23:19:12 <aleth> I don't think it needs one as the current status is already visible
23:19:33 <aleth> So it's probably old and fixed :)
23:19:38 <Mic> OK, I'll quote you and resolve it as WFM
23:20:03 <aleth> not that I am on ubuntu ;) but go ahead.
23:20:23 <aleth> It won't be any different.
23:20:44 <Mic> What are you using? I can put that into the comment.
23:21:01 <aleth> Mandriva
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23:35:49 <Mic> aleth: one thing about bug 860
23:35:53 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=860 nor, --, ---, aletheia2, ASSI, Add reading position marker line to conversations
23:36:01 <Mic> When does the marker go away?
23:37:57 <douglaswth> shouldn't that be an extension?
23:39:59 <aleth> Mic: When you switch to another tab, or when a new marker is set
23:40:38 <Mic> Ah .. so scrolling up to the marker doesn't make it go away (I admit I haven't really read the patch)
23:41:41 <aleth> douglaswth: Don't you want something like that? (independently from the question of how exactly it should look)
23:42:16 <Mic> If you like you can try this rule in a messagestyle theme, by the way:
23:42:28 <Mic> #last-viewed-ruler ~ * { background-color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.1); }
23:42:29 <douglaswth> yeah, I had even started writing an extension a while back, but haven't had time to work on it
23:42:32 <aleth> Mic: Yeah. I guess you could add a timeout but it's hard to guess when it's not needed anymore. That's why I think it should be unobtrusive
23:42:50 <Mic> It should affect all siblings following the ruler to get a slightly darker background if I'm not mistaken
23:43:19 <Mic> If that works you might not need to set/unset attributes on the messages
23:43:25 <aleth> Mic: That sounds very interesting! it would make what I suggest as a possible addition in my last comment unnecessary
23:43:36 <Mic> Exactly
23:43:50 <Mic> I'm curious if that works
23:47:57 <aleth> Doesn't seem to work :(
23:48:45 <aleth> Oh wait... it darkens the interior of the bubbles :D
23:49:15 <Mic> That could be .. I guess they have margins or paddings and it might not stretch out there
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23:50:13 <aleth> Btw I had to add an !important
23:50:30 <aleth> Which one could probably get rid of I guess
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23:50:57 <Mic> Maybe an extra span around the bubble with full width of the conv browser would do the trick
23:51:26 <Mic> i.e. make the background behind the bubble darker
23:51:26 <aleth> Yes, I think the basic idea is solid
23:51:59 <aleth> Though I don't know enough CSS to be able to think of potential problems ;)
23:52:50 <aleth> Will you add that as a comment to the bug or shall I do it?
23:53:23 <Mic> I already added it so we don't lose the idea.
23:54:01 <Mic> I can still experiment with it once this lands :)
23:54:26 <aleth> How do I find ~ on mdn? I am wondering whether that style rule affects the hr element itself, or only the siblings
23:54:53 <Mic> Google for general sibling selector
23:54:59 <aleth> Thanks
23:55:21 <Mook_as> aleth: you really want http://www.w3.org/TR/css3-selectors/#general-sibling-combinators / http://www.w3.org/TR/css3-selectors/#selectors
23:55:44 <Mook_as> that table at the second link is really what you want, though, I think :)
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23:56:21 <Mic> Thanks :)
23:58:14 <aleth> :)