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00:00:45 * jwir3 is now known as jwir3|away 00:01:24 <clokep> Mook_as: Does it just need a .bind(this)? 00:01:31 <Mook_as> yep 00:01:41 <Mook_as> (since nobody ever calls removeEventListener anyway) 00:01:46 <aleth> yes 00:03:11 <aleth> Well, a little fix in #1628 00:04:44 <clokep> aleth: That will still leak though. 00:04:48 <clokep> Each time you use bind, it returns a new function. 00:04:59 <clokep> So I think you'd have to store the value somewhere. 00:05:34 <clokep> I think.... 00:05:53 <clokep> Eh maybe not. 00:06:09 * clokep forgets. 00:11:10 <-- aleth has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2a1pre) 00:11:20 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 00:11:35 <-- aleth has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2a1pre) 00:11:43 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 00:12:48 <-- aleth has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2a1pre) 00:12:52 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 00:17:47 <instantbot> aletheia2@fastmail.fm requested review from florian@instantbird .org for attachment 1165 on bug 1182. 00:17:48 <instantbot> aletheia2@fastmail.fm cleared the Resolution 'FIXED' from bug 1182. 00:18:00 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1182 nor, --, 1.2, aletheia2, REOP, "Reference to undefined property" JS warnings 00:20:12 --> flo has joined #instantbird 00:20:12 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo flo 00:20:36 <flo> hello :) (from the Montreal airport, where I'm waiting for a delayed flight :)) 00:20:53 <clokep> flo: Hello from my couch where I'm watching the Islanders game! 00:21:18 <aleth> hello flo :) have a good flight! 00:21:53 <flo> the first flight (from Toronto to Montreal, which I shouldn't have had if Air France wasn't on strike) was very good :) 00:23:12 <clokep> :) Good! Productive week? 00:23:34 <clokep> Bah...apparently does not mark lines as a comment in a properties file. :( 00:29:44 <-- flo has quit (Input/output error) 00:34:25 --> flo has joined #instantbird 00:34:25 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo flo 00:36:43 <flo> apparently the next flight will be with an A380; it's the first time I see one. 00:37:14 <flo> clokep: I think the week was productive, yes :) 00:37:24 <aleth> Should be interesting if you can walk around a bit... 00:38:01 <aleth> flo: Was that the security review you had mentioned a while back? 00:38:21 <flo> "that" = ? 00:38:29 <aleth> Your Toronto visit 00:38:38 <flo> there are lots of security reviews in airports, but they aren't all that interesting ;) 00:38:39 <flo> oh, non 00:38:43 <flo> *no 00:38:47 <aleth> lol not those ;) 00:38:47 <flo> it was a Thunderbird work week 00:39:28 <flo> basically, all the Thunderbird team meets face to face a few times each year to discuss what's been done, what's going on, what's going to be done next (define goals). 00:40:09 <instantbot> clokep@gmail.com requested review from the wind for attachment 1166 on bug 507. 00:40:11 <flo> I demoed IM in Thunderbird, and had time to discuss lots of UI/UX details of it with bwinton (Thunderbird's UX lead) 00:40:12 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=507 enh, --, ---, clokep, ASSI, Implement IRC in JavaScript 00:40:33 <aleth> Sounds good... 00:41:01 <clokep> Anyone ask for IRC? :P 00:44:50 <flo> they asked for Yammer :-P 00:45:15 <clokep> Does Mozilla use yammer? 00:45:32 <flo> but yeah, some people want IRC; the other say that it's pointless for Thunderbird users. Both are probably right :) 00:45:36 <flo> clokep: yes, a lot. :( 00:46:09 <aleth> Is that actually a facebook subsidiary? 00:46:15 <clokep> Oh. I had no idea. I thought they all just used Twitter. 00:46:31 <clokep> Well if they have an API...shouldn't be too hard. 00:46:37 <flo> twitter is for public stuff 00:46:48 <flo> Yammer is more like Facebook, but restricted to a company 00:46:54 <clokep> Ah, I see. Interesting. 00:47:11 <flo> Yammer has an OAuth-authenticated REST API. (I discovered that this morning) 00:47:39 * clokep thinks someone else will need to work on that. ;) 00:50:25 <flo> so is this new IRC patch ready for another review? 00:51:00 <clokep> There's a bunch of XXXclokep comments in response to your XXXflo comments. :) 00:51:09 <clokep> The connecting stuff needs to be reviewed again. 00:51:27 <flo> aleth: so attachment 1165 doesn't fix the bug clokep discussed just before (wrong tab title), right? 00:52:03 <clokep> I don't think it would. 00:52:10 <aleth> flo: No, it's just one of those warnings again I discovered when testing for clokep 00:52:13 <flo> couldn't that warning be fixed with less changes? 00:52:24 <flo> it seems only adding a getBindingParent call would have be enought 00:52:34 <flo> (it's probably one we mistakenly removed at some point) 00:52:41 <aleth> Ah, maybe. 00:54:01 <flo> (by the way, I think I would have preferred a separate bug for this, as it's probably something that's really broken, rather than a noisy warning) 00:57:52 <aleth> I changed it the way I did so that the xxxAllTargets functions would be consistent. 00:58:13 <aleth> Might not be the most elegant way. 00:58:27 <flo> aleth: I just saw that (I'm looking at the hg history of the file). I guess I can buy that argument :) 01:00:06 <flo> it doesn't seem to be a regression 01:00:10 <flo> it seems it's always been broken 01:00:32 <clokep> Hmmm...just found a slight bug in that patch I put up. 01:00:39 <clokep> But there'll be at least one more iteration so not a big deal. :) 01:00:45 <flo> I went as far as http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/annotate/c856c0b1cd19/instantbird/content/conversation.xml#l1151 (when we first inserted the all-target thing) and the bug was already there 01:01:02 <aleth> Hmm, Aurora is suddenly a bit crashy, but it never sends a crash report 01:01:18 <clokep> That's why you should use Nightly. ;) 01:02:57 <aleth> flo: Interesting, I had guessed #1154 had been changed at some point 01:03:34 <flo> ah, my flight is boarding. 01:03:42 <flo> see you tomorrow :) 01:03:43 <-- flo has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2a1pre) 01:04:30 <clokep> Uhh...this is interesting: http://imgur.com/kTSWo 01:04:35 <clokep> Went away once someone else talked though. 01:05:09 <aleth> Vertical status? 01:05:31 <aleth> Ah no, sorry 01:05:47 <aleth> It was just predicting a long silence 01:06:32 <aleth> Very strange. 01:06:43 <clokep> Yes. 01:09:38 <Mook_as> something special about Sat, 01 Jan 2000 00:00:00 GMT ? 01:09:56 <aleth> Something odd in |var interval = Math.round(Date.now() / 1000) - lastInsertTime;| ? 01:12:04 <aleth> Are JS integers signed? 01:12:29 <Mook_as> yes 01:12:50 <Mook_as> (and they freely convert to doubles, so you can never be very sure) 01:32:30 <-- wesj has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2a1pre) 01:53:49 <-- chrisccoulson has quit (Ping timeout) 01:56:14 <-- Mook_as has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88-rdmsoft [XULRunner 1.9.2.13/20101203074205]) 02:00:24 <-- aleth has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2a1pre) 02:16:59 * timA is now known as timA|away 03:22:50 <-- clokep has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2a1pre) 03:27:50 --> Mook has joined #instantbird 03:59:29 <instant-buildbot> build #391 of linux-nightly-default is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/linux-nightly-default/builds/391 04:12:00 <-- micahg has quit (Ping timeout) 04:23:26 <-- Tonnes has quit (Ping timeout) 04:25:15 --> Tonnes has joined #instantbird 04:27:50 --> micahg has joined #instantbird 04:45:55 <-- EionRobb has quit (Connection reset by peer) 05:01:38 <-- micahg has quit (Quit: Ex-Chat) 05:04:43 --> micahg has joined #instantbird 05:18:54 <-- micahg has quit (Ping timeout) 05:20:46 <-- Tonnes has quit (Ping timeout) 05:21:58 --> Tonnes has joined #instantbird 05:34:43 --> micahg has joined #instantbird 05:36:08 <instant-buildbot> build #477 of win32-nightly-default is complete: Failure [failed compile] Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/win32-nightly-default/builds/477 06:14:11 <-- timA|away has quit (Connection reset by peer) 06:40:06 <-- Mook has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.87-rdmsoft [XULRunner 6.0/20110811165603]) 06:48:28 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 06:48:29 * ChanServ sets mode +h Mic 06:52:28 <instant-buildbot> build #383 of macosx-nightly-default is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/macosx-nightly-default/builds/383 07:08:50 --> chrisccoulson has joined #instantbird 07:09:42 <-- Tonnes has quit (Ping timeout) 07:11:16 --> Tonnes has joined #instantbird 08:00:39 --> Mad_Maks has joined #instantbird 08:09:59 <instantbot> benediktp@ymail.com requested review from florian@instantbird .org for attachment 1167 on bug 1259. 08:10:02 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1259 enh, --, ---, benediktp, ASSI, Replace JS animation code in messagestyle themes by CSS 08:24:07 <-- micahg has quit (Ping timeout) 08:29:53 <instantbot> New Instantbird (UI) bug 1261 filed by benediktp@ymail.com. 08:29:58 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1261 enh, --, ---, nobody, NEW, "Paper Sheets": use media queries for conditional CSS instead of JS 08:39:12 --> micahg has joined #instantbird 08:56:12 <-- Mad_Maks has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2a1pre) 09:00:40 --> Even2 has joined #instantbird 09:15:56 <-- Even2 has quit (Connection reset by peer) 09:16:43 --> Even2 has joined #instantbird 09:23:23 <instantbot> benediktp@ymail.com requested review from florian@instantbird .org for attachment 1168 on bug 1261. 09:23:33 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1261 enh, --, ---, benediktp, ASSI, "Paper Sheets": use media queries for conditional CSS instead of JS 09:24:29 --> gerard-majax has joined #instantbird 09:32:11 --> mmkmou has joined #instantbird 09:58:29 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 10:01:44 <-- aleth has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2a1pre) 10:01:46 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 10:04:14 --> adev has joined #instantbird 10:04:26 <-- aleth has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2a1pre) 10:04:34 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 10:04:40 <-- micahg has quit (Ping timeout) 10:04:50 <-- aleth has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2a1pre) 10:04:56 <-- adev has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2a1pre) 10:04:59 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 10:10:52 <-- gerard-majax has quit (Ping timeout) 10:11:42 --> gerard-majax has joined #instantbird 10:13:11 <Mic> Didn't we have a bug about aadding accessibility attributes to all default themes? (Or all themes in general?) 10:13:15 <Mic> I can't find it :( 10:16:38 <Mic> http://log.bezut.info/instantbird/111215/#m156 seems to be about bug 103 :) 10:16:41 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=103 tri, --, 0.1.3, pvdeejay, RESO FIXED, Use WAI-ARIA live regions while displaying incoming messages 10:20:28 --> micahg has joined #instantbird 10:20:56 <-- Tonnes has quit (Ping timeout) 10:30:43 <instantbot> New Instantbird (UI) bug 1262 filed by benediktp@ymail.com. 10:30:46 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1262 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, [Accessibility] Make (default?) messagestyle themes accessible 11:07:47 --> Taoki has joined #instantbird 11:08:53 <Taoki> oh yay, there's an IRC channel as well. Hi everyone :) 11:09:55 <aleth> Hi Taoki 11:10:17 <Taoki> I had a few questions. I've been using Miranda IM, but would like to spend more time around Linux at some point. I looked for a good Open Source messenger, and Instantbird looks like it. An IM on the Mozilla framework also sounds like a great idea :) 11:10:52 <Taoki> I just tried 1.1 on Windows. It seems to work nicely. But my only issue is that it doesn't seem to be very configurable yet, at least without addons 11:11:05 <aleth> I'm on Linux as well 11:11:33 <Taoki> eg: Can you make avatars show for users in the buddy list? Also, can you make both your avatar and the avatar of the person you're talking to show in the chat window? 11:11:57 <Taoki> There would be other advanced tweaks also that I'd think about 11:12:00 <aleth> To some extent that's intentional, to make things extensible with add-ons 11:12:28 <Taoki> I see. So it will never be default? 11:12:33 <aleth> I'm not sure if there is one for showing avatars in the buddy list yet, though I dimly remember seeing a screenshot (Mic?) 11:13:07 <Taoki> Also, is there support for metacontacts and local groups (sorting users in groups without modifying the groups on the account itself) 11:13:08 <aleth> If you use a message style that shows avatars, you should see them in the conversation window. 11:13:22 <Taoki> ah, nice 11:14:12 <aleth> It's not that hard to write add-ons by the way! 11:15:13 <Taoki> I tried for FireFox. Likely hard enough to take a while to understand :P 11:15:28 <aleth> Depends what you are trying to do :P 11:15:29 <Taoki> I did small scripting and development on open source projects though, so a few basics i know 11:16:29 <aleth> You can always ask questions if you get stuck 11:16:58 <aleth> For local groups, you can use tags 11:17:03 <Taoki> Another feature I'd prefer to see: Is there any way to tab the buddy list to the right side of the screen (only horizontal resize in one size)? Moving it sometimes gets messy here 11:17:09 <Taoki> nice 11:17:13 <aleth> For metacontacts - you can combine contacts, if that's what you mean? 11:17:24 <Taoki> Yeah. Nice 11:17:37 <aleth> Click on the little downward arrow on a selected contact 11:18:00 <Taoki> Yep, that is it. Awesome :) 11:19:12 <Taoki> Does Instantbird natively support popups / tooltips near the system tray when receiving a new message, and when contacts go online / offline? 11:19:14 <aleth> The buddy list should remember its position. Beyond that, what you describe should be doable via add-on, I don't think anyone else has asked for it yet. 11:19:35 <aleth> Taoki: There is an add-on for that 11:20:56 <Taoki> ok. Maybe I'll look for it then 11:21:08 <Taoki> It's one of the things I prefer to be supported natively in an IM client generally 11:21:30 <aleth> Mic has been working on notifications too I think 11:21:47 <aleth> Once you have an add-on installed, it is basically native 11:22:03 <aleth> The mozilla framework is quite powerful in that way 11:22:52 <aleth> For example, there is an add-on which adds lots of sound customization options 11:23:02 <Mic> Taoki: you're on Linux? 11:23:17 <Taoki> Also. Can you enable the text style bar in the chat window? The one which gives you a list of emoticons, bold / underline / italic fonts, font size and color, and all that 11:23:28 <Taoki> Mic: Not currently. Trying the Windows version now 11:23:33 <Mic> I think there's an add-on that enables Growl (?) notifications for Firefox/other XUL based applications 11:24:18 <Mic> There's "Buddy Status" for the sign on/off + status change notifications and IB can display new messages there out of the box 11:24:52 <Mic> https://addons.instantbird.org/en-US/instantbird/addon/253 11:25:02 <aleth> Hmm, I don't actually know if there is a text style bar... 11:25:08 <aleth> Never looked for one 11:25:13 <Mic> No, there's none 11:25:28 <Mic> There's add-ons adding an emoticon pane to the status bar though 11:25:47 <Taoki> ok 11:26:13 <Mic> https://addons.instantbird.org/en-US/instantbird/addon/287 11:26:34 <Taoki> Like I said, they're things I normally imagine supported natively. I guess I can use addons for this at first however 11:26:53 <Taoki> Least minimizing to system tray is supported by default, and I don't need the tray minimizer for that, like I do for thunderbird :P 11:27:10 <aleth> Or file a bug on bugzilla if you have an enhancement request ;) 11:27:12 <Mic> Taoki: IB is intentionally designed like this. We don't want to provide lots of options that most people won't ever use and prefer (what we think) sensible defaults instead 11:27:37 <Taoki> makes sense 11:27:38 <Mic> Everything else can be added as add-on (they don't hurt;) since the platform is so incredibly extensible 11:27:43 <aleth> A well-written add-on is indistinguishable from native code 11:27:57 <aleth> (to the user) 11:27:59 <Mic> We even had someone who merged the conversation window and the contact list into a single window 11:28:20 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 11:28:21 * ChanServ sets mode +o clokep 11:28:23 <Taoki> Kind of. Updates to the app can cause them to not work. And whenever you re-install, you need to find and carry addons with you. Whcih is why I like limiting them 11:29:13 <aleth> You can move your profile around with you though, that contains them 11:29:38 <Mic> We plan to allow to sync Instantbird profiles over computers (like Firefox does). That might include add-ons one day (like Firefox 11?) will iirc? 11:29:39 <Taoki> Oh. How do you do that? 11:29:44 <aleth> Hmm, another smiley add-on https://addons.instantbird.org/en-US/instantbird/addon/234 11:29:48 <Taoki> That's very neat :) 11:29:57 <aleth> Mic: Firefox 12 has add-on sync 11:30:05 <Mic> That's some work that hasn't started yet, though 11:30:08 <Mic> aleth: thanks :) 11:30:19 <aleth> I turned it on yesterday, that's why I know ;) 11:30:30 <Taoki> aleth: I'm looking for an addon that places buttons for font styles as well. In between the chat input area and the conversation area, like most IM's 11:30:50 <aleth> I don't know of one, that doesn't mean it doesn't exist though 11:31:09 <aleth> Sounds like an add-on that should exist though! 11:31:19 <Mic> Taoki: I think we have an enhancement request for that somewhere 11:31:43 <Taoki> That's good 11:31:50 <Taoki> That's one thing I can't imagine an addon for :P 11:32:01 <Taoki> Would be nice if 1.2 could have it perhaps 11:32:18 <aleth> 1.2 is coming soon, so probably not ;) 11:32:36 <Taoki> Ok. That's ok... don't wanna be a noob that requests a ton of features immediately :P 11:32:58 <Taoki> Does 1.2 allow new customization from 1.1 however? 11:33:04 <Mic> Taoki: you can always search our bugtracker and file whatever is not there yet (and should be there in your opinion) 11:33:14 <Taoki> sure 11:33:28 * Mic notices that he has no idea what features 1.1 had ;) 11:34:46 <clokep> An add-on to add text formatting would have to be very invasive in fact. 11:35:05 <Mic> That was bug 634 I think. 11:35:10 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=634 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Richtext formatting for outgoing messages 11:35:25 <Taoki> Is there a changelog or release notes page for the 1.2 beta? 11:35:50 <Mic> We create changelogs for official releases only 11:35:58 <Taoki> yeah, that 11:36:12 <aleth> Taoki: there's this ;) https://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/shortlog 11:36:45 <Taoki> I'm also looking for an addon to display both my avatar and the person's avatar in the IM wondow. But not necessarily as part of the messaging style (so it doesn't show with each message necessarily) 11:36:49 <Taoki> Though that could work as well :P 11:36:52 <Taoki> thanks 11:37:28 <clokep> The other person's avatar should be shown in the conversation header. 11:37:34 <clokep> If your conversation window is big enough. 11:38:02 <Taoki> That's good. I see it... wasn't sure if it's mine 11:38:38 <Mic> Your own is displayed (and changable) on the contact list 11:38:52 <Mic> I guess you figured that out already ;) 11:39:19 <Taoki> Yeah... and something else that worries me: The two statuses Instantbird supports are Available and Unavailable (and Offline). Most protocols support a lot more however... like away, busy, on the phone... and also invisible 11:39:24 <Taoki> yeah :P 11:39:36 <Taoki> I'm IM-ing myself to tes tthe chat xD 11:39:39 <Taoki> *test 11:40:20 <clokep> But not all support that, there isn't a good way to handle that that we've thought of. 11:40:47 <Taoki> ok 11:41:05 <Taoki> Hm... can you change your avatar for each account? Or only have one universally? 11:41:31 <Taoki> The plugin I use in Miranda lets the header in the contact list scroll between all accounts. Showing each's avatar, status, etc. Would be nice if this were possible 11:41:52 <clokep> Universal. 11:42:22 <Taoki> ok 11:45:52 <Taoki> Also wonder if there's any addon to make the buddy list transparent. I have the one in my current IM use a slight Aero blur :P 11:47:54 <clokep> I don't think one exists for that. 11:50:01 <Taoki> ok. I'm still not sure if one exists to show avatars in buddy lists next to contacts (even if it spaces them a bit more) 11:50:34 <clokep> I think Mic had some code to do it, but not sure if it was ever addon-ized. 11:50:40 <Mic> I think a rule in userChrome.css would do 11:50:59 <Mic> (to make the contact list have a glass background) 11:51:00 <Taoki> Nice 11:51:14 <Taoki> A non-addon way to do it sounds even better for me 11:51:28 <Mic> Replacing the background of the richlistbox should be enough iirc .. let me try 11:51:56 <Mic> The thing with such stuff is that it might become unreadable with some backgrounds (desktop images) 11:52:39 <clokep> There's certain things we're really just unlikely to add as options and /should/ be add-ons in our opinion. 11:52:53 * clokep needs to go. 11:52:54 <Taoki> That's ok 11:52:57 <-- clokep has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2a1pre) 11:53:02 <Taoki> later 11:54:40 <Mic> Can't get it working right now, gtg 11:54:55 <-- Mic has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2a1pre) 12:25:09 <-- chrisccoulson has quit (Ping timeout) 12:32:17 --> clokep_work has joined #instantbird 12:32:17 * ChanServ sets mode +o clokep_work 12:33:24 --> chrisccoulson has joined #instantbird 13:22:41 <-- chrisccoulson has quit (Ping timeout) 13:23:19 --> chrisccoulson has joined #instantbird 13:23:45 <-- chrisccoulson has quit (Client exited) 13:23:56 --> chrisccoulson has joined #instantbird 13:40:15 --> flo has joined #instantbird 13:40:15 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo flo 13:41:12 <-- gerard-majax has quit (Ping timeout) 13:48:33 <flo> hello 13:48:39 * flo is at home :) 13:49:48 <clokep_work> How was the flight? 13:50:49 <flo> late. Couldn't catch the train I was supposed to have, and I ended up buying another train ticket myself 13:51:31 <flo> (for obscure reasons, the next train that Air France could provide a ticket for was more than 2 hours later, and I didn't want to wait that long in the cold, given there were at least 3 or 4 trains in the same direction before that time) 13:51:56 <flo> I'll complain and try to get a refund :) 13:53:14 <flo> (it probably won't work, but I have to write them a later to get a refund for another train ticket I ended up buying myself because they cancelled the train I had to take from Brussels to the airport, and the only other alternative train was operated by a different company they couldn't issue tickets for :-D) 13:53:17 <clokep_work> Hope you can! :) But yeah, that's silly. 13:54:33 <flo> *a letter 13:54:50 <flo> I also want to complain about the fact that they broke my suitcase :-) 13:57:07 <clokep_work> Sounds like a not very good trip actually. :P 13:58:42 <flo> they got it all wrong! 13:59:12 <flo> the only flight for which I have nothing to complain about is... the one operated by Air Canada :-P 14:00:25 <clokep_work> Hah. 14:00:38 <clokep_work> So that email we just got on the contact list...looks like everything is working OK to me? (o_O) 14:00:42 <clokep_work> Maybe his friends just don't like him. :p 14:08:47 <flo> I don't see any recent email on the contact mailing list, so it's possible my gmail also doesn't like him :-D (and spammed his message) 14:46:39 <clokep_work> Possibly. :) 14:51:15 <flo> I don't see it in the spam either :) 14:51:49 <flo> how did you get http://imgur.com/kTSWo ? 14:57:55 <clokep_work> flo: I have no idea. 14:57:58 <clokep_work> It just happened. 14:58:03 <clokep_work> No errors in the error console, etc. 14:59:48 <flo> oh, but it's JS-XMPP? 15:00:21 <clokep_work> It's JS-IRC? 15:00:24 <clokep_work> No, it's not. 15:00:29 <clokep_work> It's a standard nightly. 15:00:47 <flo> with a standard JS-XMPP add-on? :) 15:01:28 <flo> anyway, the cause is probably a wrong timestamp for alet h's last message in that conversation. 15:02:03 <flo> the space between that message and yours is the default Bubble (non-Time Bubble) spacing, which we have when time bubbles couldn't calculate the time difference, or found a negative value. 15:04:21 <clokep_work> Ah, I see. 15:04:40 <clokep_work> I'm confused at why we're talking about JS-XMPP. :( 15:12:33 <flo> because I meant JS-IRC 15:12:58 <flo> and haven't slept since 6am (Toronto time) yesterday 15:16:17 <clokep_work> Ah-ha! :) 15:25:03 <flo> so if it's really JS-IRC, then you have a case that causes messages with wrong time stamps 15:26:09 <clokep_work> It's /NOT/ JS-IRC. 15:26:12 <clokep_work> It's a standard nightly. 15:39:23 <flo> you can pretend switching to JS-IRC will fix it then :) 15:40:19 <flo> by the way, the timestamp should be in the log :) 15:40:37 <clokep_work> Ah, I'll check it when I'm home then. 15:41:31 --> igorko has joined #instantbird 16:00:47 <-- mmkmou has quit (Ping timeout) 16:04:30 --> mmkmou has joined #instantbird 16:05:10 * jwir3|away is now known as jwir3 16:36:36 <-- Taoki has quit (Quit: KVIrc Insomnia 4.0.4, revision: 5646, sources date: 20110308, built on: 2011-03-19 23:10:52 UTC http://www.kvirc.net/) 16:46:41 --> wesj has joined #instantbird 17:02:18 --> myk has joined #instantbird 17:03:59 --> Mad_Maks has joined #instantbird 17:09:05 --> gerard-majax has joined #instantbird 17:15:51 <-- Even1 has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2a1pre) 17:15:57 --> Even1 has joined #instantbird 17:33:34 <-- Even1 has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2a1pre) 17:36:36 --> Tomek has joined #instantbird 17:51:32 <-- Mad_Maks has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2a1pre) 17:54:32 --> timA has joined #instantbird 17:55:06 <-- instant-buildbot has quit (Ping timeout) 17:56:38 --> instant-buildbot has joined #instantbird 17:56:38 * ChanServ sets mode +v instant-buildbot 18:00:47 --> Mook_as has joined #instantbird 18:05:21 <-- micahg has quit (Connection reset by peer) 18:06:22 --> micahg has joined #instantbird 19:00:44 <-- myk has quit (Ping timeout) 19:04:01 --> myk has joined #instantbird 19:04:01 <-- mmkmou has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2a1pre) 19:16:14 <-- igorko has quit (Ping timeout) 19:16:57 --> igorko has joined #instantbird 19:23:29 --> Tonnes has joined #instantbird 19:25:47 * jwir3 is now known as jwir3|android 19:25:55 * jwir3|android is now known as jwir3|mobile 19:32:53 * jwir3|mobile is now known as jwir3|android 20:02:58 * timA is now known as timA|mtg 20:11:50 <-- aleth has left #instantbird () 20:11:58 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 20:11:58 * ChanServ sets mode +h aleth 20:12:06 <clokep_work> There we go. :) 20:13:28 <aleth> :) 20:17:17 <clokep_work> Time to go! Ciao. 20:17:34 <-- clokep_work has quit (Quit: Instantbird 77) 20:48:22 --> jb has joined #instantbird 21:04:00 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 21:04:01 * ChanServ sets mode +o clokep 21:07:13 * timA|mtg is now known as timA|lunch 21:13:13 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 21:13:13 * ChanServ sets mode +h Mic 21:14:01 <Mic> Congratulations, aleth 21:14:11 <Mic> I see you were 'promoted' ;) 21:14:52 <-- timA|lunch has quit (Max SendQ exceeded) 21:14:58 --> timA has joined #instantbird 21:15:54 * timA is now known as IRCMonkey64678 21:19:57 <-- IRCMonkey64678 has quit (Max SendQ exceeded) 21:20:02 --> timA has joined #instantbird 21:20:58 * timA is now known as IRCMonkey32245 21:21:46 <-- chrisccoulson has quit (Ping timeout) 21:25:00 <-- IRCMonkey32245 has quit (Max SendQ exceeded) 21:25:06 --> timA has joined #instantbird 21:25:18 --> chrisccoulson has joined #instantbird 21:26:02 * timA is now known as IRCMonkey14122 21:26:04 <-- jb has quit (Ping timeout) 21:27:07 --> jb has joined #instantbird 21:32:28 <clokep> :) Promotions are always fun. 21:36:25 <-- jb has quit (Ping timeout) 21:37:21 <-- igorko has quit (Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org) 21:40:08 * IRCMonkey14122 is now known as timA 22:11:51 * timA is now known as timA|vet 22:12:50 <aleth> Thanks, Mic! :) 22:13:11 <aleth> That's some network... https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/showdependencygraph.cgi?id=507 22:13:44 <clokep> Yes. It is. :) 22:13:47 <clokep> Fix some of it? :P 22:14:22 <aleth> Is JS-IRC landing this weekend? 22:14:22 <clokep> Bah i still need to handle the comments flo left for me. 22:14:27 <clokep> ^ ^ 22:14:56 <aleth> He's been sending you comments from the plane? 22:15:18 <aleth> Ah, he's back :) 22:15:25 <clokep> )The ones in https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=507#c31) 22:15:32 <instantbot> Bug 507 enh, --, ---, clokep, ASSI, Implement IRC in JavaScript 22:17:31 <aleth> Bug 574 is a bit odd. It looks like either obsoleted or duplicate? 22:17:35 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=574 enh, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Enhance UI with IRC features 22:18:06 <clokep> It's more of "flo probably wouldn't want this, let clokep make an extension" ;) 22:18:21 <clokep> But maybe it is a dup if there's nothing specific in it. 22:18:38 <aleth> There is stuff like 'Wouldn't it provide a better user experience to run whois automatically when 22:18:38 <aleth> the nick is hovered in the list of participants' ...\ 22:19:04 <clokep> That was fixed... 22:19:45 <aleth> Yeah ;) The whole thing is a bit confusing (maybe you had to be there ;) ) but think you could close it 22:20:57 <clokep> Right, probably. 22:21:01 <clokep> Will check it out later. I'm on my way out. 22:21:38 <aleth> You did say "fix some of it" :P ;) 22:22:45 <-- clokep has quit (Ping timeout) 22:27:37 <Mic> I played around with the images from the new logo suggestion bug 22:28:06 <Mic> This is more the direction I'd prefer: https://wiki.instantbird.org/File:Hummingbird.png 22:47:06 <-- micahg has quit (Ping timeout) 22:52:00 <Mic> Good night 22:52:12 <-- Mic has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2a1pre) 22:59:52 --> igorko has joined #instantbird 23:01:16 <flo> without reading the bug itself, a bug with "Enhance UI with IRC features" as a title sounds like a meta bug without a clear way to know when whatever it tracks is fixed, so that would be invalid :) 23:03:08 --> micahg has joined #instantbird 23:06:43 * jwir3|android is now known as jwir3|away 23:19:39 <-- igorko has quit (Connection reset by peer) 23:48:42 --> clv has joined #instantbird 23:51:55 <clv> Hi, can I write a direct message, get a list of friends and followers, follow/unfollow people on Twitter using instantbird? If so, where do I get a list of commands to do all that? 23:52:48 <aleth> clv: There is a context menu when you right-click on a tweet. 23:53:16 <aleth> I don't think direct messages are implemented yet, but I am not sure. 23:55:04 <aleth> There are also commands /follow (name) and /unfollow, maybe more 23:55:58 <clv> Aleth: OK, indeed, direct message does not appear in that context menu... Anyways thank you. 23:56:17 <aleth> Are you using version 1.1? 23:56:44 <aleth> Some of what I mentioned may only be in the current nightlies... 23:57:00 <aleth> I can't remember what exactly was in 1.1 :( 23:58:13 * timA|vet is now known as timA 23:59:03 <clv> Another question please, does Instantbird retrieves all of tweets regardless of how many there are? For example, if I disconnect and they post 900 tweets, does IB retrieves all the 900 tweets next re-conect? 23:59:25 <aleth> Yes