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11:06:48 <instantbot> New Instantbird (UI) bug 1241 filed by benediktp@ymail.com. 11:06:50 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1241 enh, --, ---, nobody, NEW, "Add contact" button in contact list 11:17:30 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 11:17:30 * ChanServ sets mode +h clokep 11:31:50 <-- Mic|web has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 11:49:32 <-- clokep has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2a1pre) 11:55:07 <-- MadWookiee has quit (Ping timeout) 11:55:54 --> MadWookiee has joined #instantbird 11:57:22 <-- Even2 has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2a1pre) 11:58:40 <-- MadWookiee has quit (Ping timeout) 12:00:24 --> MadWookiee has joined #instantbird 12:03:04 <-- MadWookiee has quit (Connection reset by peer) 12:03:07 --> MadWookiee has joined #instantbird 12:14:57 <-- MadWookiee has quit (Ping timeout) 12:41:38 --> MadWookiee has joined #instantbird 12:43:32 <-- Even has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2a1pre) 12:44:07 --> Even has joined #instantbird 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letter, contact are not shown 15:10:12 --> jb has joined #instantbird 15:30:40 <-- jb has quit (Connection reset by peer) 15:30:43 --> jb has joined #instantbird 15:54:44 --> igorko has joined #instantbird 15:55:22 --> myk has joined #instantbird 16:03:48 <-- ecaron has quit (Ping timeout) 16:19:18 --> ecaron has joined #instantbird 16:34:42 <-- ecaron has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.1) 16:34:46 <-- myk has quit (Ping timeout) 16:35:44 <-- GeekShadow has quit (Ping timeout) 16:35:49 --> GeekShadow has joined #instantbird 16:37:55 --> Draighth has joined #instantbird 16:50:04 <-- gerard-majax has quit (Ping timeout) 16:58:23 <-- igorko has quit (Ping timeout) 17:00:52 --> igorko has joined #instantbird 17:02:03 --> ecaron has joined #instantbird 17:03:47 <-- jb has quit (Ping timeout) 17:09:30 <-- wesj has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2a1pre) 17:09:32 --> wesj has joined #instantbird 17:09:41 <-- ecaron has quit (Ping timeout) 17:11:22 --> myk has joined #instantbird 17:12:45 <clokep_work> flo: Were we thinking of meeting today? 17:12:55 <flo> hmm, I think so 17:14:42 <-- GeekShadow has quit (Quit: leaving) 17:15:02 --> GeekShadow has joined #instantbird 17:21:56 <-- GeekShadow has quit (Quit: leaving) 17:22:10 --> GeekShadow has joined #instantbird 17:24:38 <flo> where should I put the password preference stuff? (button to access the password manager, checkbox to use a master password, etc...) 17:25:02 <flo> I would see it either at the bottom of the Privacy tab, or in a "Password" tab of the Advanced tab. 17:25:17 <clokep_work> I don't know. :-/ 17:25:28 <flo> Firefox has it in Security 17:25:31 <flo> Thunderbird too 17:25:42 <clokep_work> Isn't it already there in Instantbird? 17:25:52 <flo> the master password? 17:25:54 <flo> no :) 17:26:05 <clokep_work> The password manager. 17:26:20 <clokep_work> I would say to put it in the same place though. 17:26:46 <flo> I don't really want to add a Security tab 17:27:24 <flo> isn't it for privacy reasons that one would want a master password? 17:27:50 <clokep_work> Yes. 17:28:10 <clokep_work> It probably makes sense to put it there. 17:28:13 <flo> http://lxr.instantbird.org/instantbird/search?string=master%20password 17:28:21 <flo> interestingly, we already have the localized strings for it :-D 17:31:09 <flo> that whole security.dtd localized file seems unused :-S 17:32:58 <clokep_work> Is that taken from Thunderbird? 17:33:06 <flo> I would say it's from Firefox 17:33:25 <flo> but both are very similar, so I'm not completely sure :) 17:33:40 <clokep_work> Ah, I didn't think Firefox had a master password. 17:37:13 <-- GeekShadow has quit (Quit: leaving) 17:37:43 --> GeekShadow has joined #instantbird 17:41:09 <-- GeekShadow has quit (Quit: leaving) 17:42:53 --> GeekShadow has joined #instantbird 17:43:50 <-- igorko has quit (Connection reset by peer) 17:44:05 --> igorko has joined #instantbird 17:47:25 --> Mook_as has joined #instantbird 17:48:05 --> Mnyromyr has joined #instantbird 17:49:23 <-- GeekShadow has quit (Quit: leaving) 17:50:02 <-- MadWookiee has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.1) 17:50:49 --> GeekShadow has joined #instantbird 18:03:39 --> jb has joined #instantbird 18:13:08 <flo> the master password prompt is ugly :( 18:13:44 <Mook_as> and blocking :( 18:13:51 <Mook_as> (well, modal, anyway) 18:14:40 <flo> Mook_as: it's the first window displayed before any other Instantbird window is shown 18:14:52 <Mook_as> haha 18:15:42 <flo> all it says is "Password required" "Please enter the master password for the Software Security Device." 18:16:18 <flo> it would be much better if "the Software Security Device" could be replaced by "Instantbird" in that string 18:17:41 <flo> http://mxr.mozilla.org/comm-central/source/mozilla/security/manager/locales/en-US/chrome/pipnss/pipnss.properties#44 that requirement imposed on localizers seems crazy :-S 18:18:35 <-- mmkmou has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2a1pre) 18:18:47 <Mook_as> I don't think full-width French or German would work :p 18:19:23 <flo> Mook_as: they are supposed to know how to count the size of the UTF8 characters they use... 18:19:45 <Mook_as> I assume it's more "try it; does it crash?" :p 18:20:14 <flo> Mook_as: that would only be possible if the comment included clear steps to reproduce 18:24:27 <flo> hmm, apparently our code isn't super happy if the user cancels the master password prompt 18:30:21 <flo> in that case we can't even know if there's a stored password or not :-/ 18:31:17 <clokep_work> You can't even tell if there's stored password if they cancel the prompt? 18:31:24 <clokep_work> What if they give the wrong password? :P 18:34:35 <flo> I haven't tried yet, I'll try that later :-D 18:34:42 <flo> but I suspect the result is more or less the same 18:34:44 <-- flo has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2a1pre) 18:36:22 --> ecaron has joined #instantbird 18:56:15 <-- Even has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2a1pre) 18:58:48 <-- jb has quit (Ping timeout) 18:59:43 --> jb has joined #instantbird 19:02:38 <aleth> Sorry I am late for the meeting. Re password preference, I'd say Privacy is better than the already overloaded Advanced tab 19:02:44 <aleth> Ah, seems meeting is over 19:02:47 <-- igorko has quit (Ping timeout) 19:04:00 <clokep_work> aleth: There wasn't much of a meeting. ;) 19:04:49 <aleth> And I wanted to ask about people's key mapping preferences (re Mics' comment on bug 1234) but then that's not very exciting either 19:04:57 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1234 nor, --, ---, aletheia2, NEW, Improve keyboard navigation 19:14:27 <clokep_work> I need to read the bug again. 19:15:49 <aleth> only the last 2 comments really... the wider issue is future-proofing the key assignments 19:16:43 --> EionRobb has joined #instantbird 19:19:07 <clokep_work> aleth: So what is your proposal for key bindings then? There's a bunch of ideas in there. :-/ 19:19:57 --> igorko has joined #instantbird 19:21:32 <-- ecaron has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.1) 19:21:33 <aleth> clokep_work: I guess my proposal is in the patch ;) Make no immediate distinction between Home/End and Ctrl-Home/End so there is room in the future to differentiate. But seriously, like I said in my last comment, it does depend on what people are thinking of adding in the future. 19:22:03 <aleth> And on whether those keys would be the place to make additions in the first place. 19:22:48 <aleth> Quite possibly it doesn't even matter if it is changed slightly at a later date as new features are added. But I thought it might be worth asking for feedback 19:23:42 <clokep_work> So your patch has Home/End jump between sections and to get to the top, you'd hit Home twice? 19:24:14 <aleth> Yes 19:24:40 <aleth> (Mirroring the touchpad gesture behaviour) 19:25:37 <clokep_work> And the current Ctrl + Page Up/Down behavior would be removed? 19:25:42 <-- igorko has quit (Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org) 19:25:49 <aleth> Ctrl-PgUp/Dn is not affected at all 19:25:49 --> igorko has joined #instantbird 19:25:59 <aleth> (That changes the current tab) 19:26:10 <clokep_work> Sorry, I meant Alt + Pg Up/Dn. 19:26:20 <aleth> That's also kept in place 19:26:47 <clokep_work> Is there a difference? 19:26:52 <clokep_work> Why are there two ways to do the same thing? 19:27:00 <aleth> Since Home/End won't work as soon as the user starts typing in the editbox 19:27:16 <aleth> Power users will want Alt-PgUp/Dn and Shift-PgUp/Dn ;) 19:27:45 <clokep_work> Hmmm...OK. 19:28:44 <aleth> It's behaviour similar to Mic's Easy Scrolling add-on, though not identical, and implemented differently 19:28:53 <aleth> So you can test-drive that if you like 19:33:43 --> gerard-majax has joined #instantbird 19:40:08 <clokep_work> RIght. 19:40:33 <clokep_work> I think it's a good idea. I'm just not sure how I feel about different keys being used at different times. 19:41:09 <clokep_work> (I.e. use Home if there's no text, but Alt + Home always works, and Ctrl + Home if no text, but Alt + Ctrl + Home always works.) 19:41:52 <clokep_work> My point is really just that I'm not sure I agree w/ the Home + Ctrl+Home keys. :) 19:42:24 <Mook_as> hmm, yeah, I agree that modal keys should be avoided. 19:43:05 <aleth> Hmm, I didn't map Alt+Home to anything. The idea is to make section scroll discoverable and useable. 99% of the time you don't want to scroll while typing. Try it and see if it feels natural you. I actually think it's much more intuitive than the current setup. 19:43:14 <Mook_as> (what/if keybindings exist for going through the scrollback/text area doesn't matter as much for me, I can go grab the mouse. I guess I'm not enough of a unix guy? :) ) 19:43:17 <aleth> Generally I would agree with Mook_as, but this isn't modal in the usual sense 19:45:02 <aleth> When the textbox is empty and I use a standard nav key, I am bound to be reading the conv, and so I expect nav keys to, well, work. 20:01:49 <-- chrisccoulson has quit (Ping timeout) 20:03:56 --> harlock has joined #instantbird 20:06:17 --> chrisccoulson has joined #instantbird 20:11:25 <-- harlock has quit (Ping timeout) 20:15:55 --> Mic|web has joined #instantbird 20:17:53 <-- igorko has quit (Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org) 20:20:18 --> harlock has joined #instantbird 20:20:35 <Mic|web> aleth: I think you're right: actually trying it is the best way to see how well it works ;) 20:20:38 <Mic|web> bbl 20:20:41 <-- Mic|web has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 20:20:54 --> flo has joined #instantbird 20:20:54 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo flo 20:22:06 <-- harlock has quit (Ping timeout) 20:23:12 --> harlock has joined #instantbird 20:55:51 <-- harlock has quit (Ping timeout) 20:57:03 --> harlock has joined #instantbird 20:59:12 <-- gerard-majax has quit (Ping timeout) 21:03:38 <-- harlock has quit (Ping timeout) 21:04:39 <-- flo has quit (Ping timeout) 21:07:34 --> harlock has joined #instantbird 21:09:32 --> flo has joined #instantbird 21:09:32 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo flo 21:13:41 <-- Tomek has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.1) 21:15:52 <-- harlock has quit (Ping timeout) 21:16:19 --> Mic|web has joined #instantbird 21:17:29 --> harlock has joined #instantbird 21:21:55 <instantbot> New Instantbird (UI) bug 1242 filed by aletheia2@fastmail.fm. 21:21:57 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1242 min, --, ---, nobody, NEW, JSON log viewer scrolls to end of conversation on opening log 21:23:50 <flo> is this something you want to fix? :) 21:24:33 <-- harlock has quit (Quit: Baibai) 21:25:40 <flo> aleth: by the way, that patch in bug 1234 looks good. I haven't r+'ed it yet because I'm still confused by the discussion both here and in the bug comments; and I haven't tested it either. 21:25:44 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1234 nor, --, ---, aletheia2, NEW, Improve keyboard navigation 21:26:02 <clokep_work> Should it not go to the bottom by default? 21:28:20 <aleth> flo: Yeah, it did end up a bit confusing, though the point of the bug comments was to help straighten things out :( While the behaviour in the patch itself is straightforward... 21:29:33 * clokep_work wonders if the log viewer should read from top to bottom... 21:29:33 <flo> clokep_work: why should it do that? 21:29:55 <clokep_work> Oh wait. 21:30:00 <clokep_work> It does read from top to bottom. 21:30:05 * clokep_work is burnt out from work... 21:31:45 <Mic|web> Is it common enough to scroll while having something entered in the input box to justify having extra key bindings for this case? Couldn't that become an add-on for 'power-users' (as you called them) if they need it? 21:31:52 <Mic|web> @aleth 21:33:05 <aleth> Mic|web: I don't think Shift/Alt PgUp/Dn get in anybody's way, and they are there already, so I kept them. 21:33:57 <aleth> Present users who know about and got used to Sh-PgUp/Dn at least would probably not like it broken in 1.2 21:34:02 <flo> aleth: so why do we have shift+alt doing the same thing? I suspect it's where I got confused :-S 21:34:19 <clokep_work> flo it's where I got lost too. 21:34:33 <flo> :) 21:34:47 <aleth> flo: It's not the same. Sh-PgUp is currently the only way to page up/dn from the editbox. Alt-PgUp is the current section scroll combo. 21:35:02 <flo> ah! 21:36:19 <aleth> It's the current inconsistencies I was trying to straighten out ;) 21:36:41 <flo> what's currently inconsistent then? 21:37:50 <aleth> Bug 867 and bug 1211 for example. But comment #0 in bug 1234 tried to explain the logic behind the changes :( seems it didn't do it's job well 21:37:54 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=867 enh, --, ---, aletheia2, NEW, Shift+Page Up/Down should work when content area is selected 21:37:55 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1211 min, --, ---, aletheia2, NEW, Scrolling to section only works when input box is focused. 21:37:56 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1234 nor, --, ---, aletheia2, NEW, Improve keyboard navigation 21:38:07 <flo> (by the way, just to confuse things even more, what's the expected behavior when both alt and shift are pressed?) 21:38:42 <aleth> flo: I don't know. Certainly I don't override or change that in the patch 21:40:04 <aleth> Probably it does nothing at all. 21:40:16 <flo> aleth: it's confusing that bugs 867 and 1211 are saying basically the same thing (for different keys), but with opposite wordings ("should work when content area is selected" vs "only works when input box is focused") 21:40:33 <flo> and it seems like both wil be resolved as dupes of bug 1234 once that lands 21:40:37 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1234 nor, --, ---, aletheia2, NEW, Improve keyboard navigation 21:40:39 <aleth> flo: I didn't file the bugs ;) But thanks to Mic for filing them 21:40:44 <Mic|web> Oh, you don't forward PageUp/Down when something the user entered something already :( 21:41:03 <Mic|web> I know that parts is not so nice in my extension but useful anyways imo 21:41:44 <aleth> Mic|web: Yes, I know your add-on does that, but I thought it was too potentially confusing . But it could be added if others want it too 21:41:48 <flo> Mic|web: I've no idea of what you mean with "Oh, you don't forward PageUp/Down when something the user entered something already" 21:41:59 --> Tomek has joined #instantbird 21:43:31 <aleth> flo: The point of bug 1234 was that it seemed to me a couple of related things could be fixed without code duplication by the same patch once the logic of the desired behaviour was clear 21:43:35 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1234 nor, --, ---, aletheia2, NEW, Improve keyboard navigation 21:44:25 <flo> aleth: I think I've understood already that the point of 1234 was to get things done rather than just report things that are confusing/frustrating 21:44:40 <Mic|web> flo: my extension forwards these keys to the browser *unless* they are really needed in the input box 21:45:20 <Mic|web> Needed = there's a scrollbar because the content takes up more space than is avaialble there (i.e. when you have a vertical scrollbar) 21:46:17 <Mic|web> hmm, seems I repeated myself here;) 21:47:10 <flo> Mic|web: oh, so you meant that your add-on detects the scrollbar, as opposed to aleth's patch only detecting non-emptiness? 21:47:16 <Mic|web> Yes 21:47:49 <flo> aleth: the log viewer will definitely still exist in 1.2 21:49:26 <flo> I don't have time to invest now in coding infinite scrollback + I don't think all the UI concerns for that are solved either (especially for the cases where the user wants to search by date, it seems we need to somehow display a timeline, and a log viewer may still be needed for that case). 21:49:58 <flo> also, infinite scrollback doesn't work when searching in all indexed logs, rather than just the previous similar conversations 21:50:54 <Mic|web> Look for the highlighted section here: http://pastebin.instantbird.com/9817 21:51:25 <flo> Mic|web: ok. I think detecting the scrollbar is better, but may be less reliable (depending on how it's implemented, I don't remember if you have found something that works all the time, or only almost all the time ;)), and more importantly, may be confusing to users. It's still a nice idea though, so aleth's patch should probably not kill the add-on :) 21:52:35 <Mic|web> If we had better page up/down handling, we could ditch shift+pageup/down with almost no loss 21:52:55 <Mic|web> Two key combinations less that could confuse people 21:52:59 <flo> hmm, that looks reliable 21:53:01 --> jb1 has joined #instantbird 21:53:34 <-- jb has quit (Ping timeout) 21:54:49 <aleth> What I didn't like about detecting the scrollbar was that it would only apply to PgUp/Dn and not all the nav keys. Because cursor up/down and home/end need to be used for editing much earlier. 21:55:38 <aleth> So it seemed cleaner to me to drop it. But it could be added with another clause in the 'if' in the patch. 21:56:26 <clokep_work> Page up/Down can still be used even if there is no scrollbar. 21:56:31 <flo> it doesn't seem like the main thing you are trying to fix in this bug, so this can probably be discussed/added separately 21:56:43 <aleth> Yes exactly. 21:56:50 <clokep_work> It would end up just going to the top/bottom, but is standard editor key binding. 21:58:02 <Mic|web> hmm. 21:58:46 <Mic|web> Indeed. I never noticed :D 21:59:11 <Mic|web> That's not good then. :( 21:59:24 <clokep_work> It's silly, but that's probably not something you'd want to break. 21:59:48 <flo> clokep_work: in an add-on it's ok ;) 22:00:00 <flo> as long as the description makes it clear and the user isn't surprised 22:00:09 <Mic|web> I really don't like how many key bindings with different modifiers we have. 22:00:12 <clokep_work> flo: I meant for inclusion in Instantbird. 22:00:14 <Mic|web> :( 22:00:34 <flo> clokep_work: I understood that :) 22:01:11 <Mic|web> I was hoping we could make shift+page up/down go away because of it since it would only cover an edge case then 22:10:51 <clokep_work> Shouldn't shift + Page up/down do the same thing and select text though? 22:11:52 <Mic|web> clokep_work: true. Firefox does that (I just tried it on BIO) 22:12:23 <clokep_work> Yeah. 22:15:26 <aleth> It could be easily removed from the patch. I don't know how used current users are to the current behaviour. 22:16:56 <clokep_work> Goodnight. 22:16:57 <-- clokep_work has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 22:17:13 <Mic|web> good night 22:17:21 <Mic|web> I lag :D 22:18:05 <aleth> It must be an early night for clokep :D 22:18:47 <flo> what about when the nicklist is focused? :-P 22:19:02 <Mic|web> OH!!!! We need another modifier to account for that! :P 22:19:04 <Mook_as> select people in the nicklist? :p 22:20:07 <aleth> People with accessibility issues might not like it if we broke PgUp/Dn and cursor up/down in the nicklist :P 22:21:39 <flo> aleth: it's the software that has accessibility issues, not the people ;) 22:22:11 <flo> by the way, it seems that Reply To/RT are very poorly accessible, as one need to be able to point at the tweet to open the context menu on it 22:22:11 <aleth> Yes, that was badly put 22:25:14 <flo> what's the keyboard shortcut to kick out a troll? (we need a built-in troll detection algorithm :-P) 22:27:28 <aleth> :D 22:27:45 <EionRobb> let me know when that's in place so I can shush about file transfers ;) 22:31:13 --> ecaron has joined #instantbird 22:32:29 --> ecaron1 has joined #instantbird 22:33:00 <-- ecaron has quit (Ping timeout) 22:35:47 <flo> EionRobb: seriously, what's your problem with file transfer? 22:36:08 <EionRobb> lol 22:36:28 * Mook_as assumes flo's answer would be dropbox integration :p 22:36:53 <flo> Mook_as: I'm waiting for Thunderbird's team to do that for us so that we can just take the code ;) 22:37:34 <Mic|web> hmm, couldn't we base64 encode it and put everything into data urls? ;) 22:37:54 <flo> although it wouldn't be completely clear which application is taking the other application's code, as Thunderbird's dropbox support uses Instantbird's twitter OAuth code :-D 22:38:13 <Mook_as> let's just call it "incestuous" :p 22:38:46 <flo> :-D 22:43:25 <-- jb1 has quit (Connection reset by peer) 22:47:14 <Mic|web> Can we postpone the decision on bug 1234 until tomorrow (or later) by the way? There's other things I might want to say there and it's getting late here already. 22:47:18 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1234 nor, --, ---, aletheia2, NEW, Improve keyboard navigation 22:48:03 <Mic|web> Good night 22:51:07 <flo> Mic|web: Good night! :) 22:52:32 <aleth> good night :) 22:54:47 <-- Mic|web has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 23:04:48 <-- myk has quit (Ping timeout) 23:05:43 <-- flo has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2a1pre) 23:13:48 <-- Tomek has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.1) 23:16:29 <-- Draighth has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 23:30:55 <-- Mnyromyr has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [SeaMonkey 1.1.19/2010030105]) 23:37:08 --> myk has joined #instantbird