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00:13:33 <-- jb has quit (Ping timeout) 00:13:45 <instantbot> clokep@gmail.com requested review from florian@instantbird .org for attachment 1123 on bug 1178. 00:13:48 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1178 maj, --, ---, clokep, ASSI, Regression: renamed contacts disappear from list 00:20:40 <instant-buildbot> build #179 of macosx-onCommit started, including [80043d7ec7742356c4c97c6cc0be519d68012182, be416e3b6a3ffd79726b26bb1e176b03ca0ef63f, 6daa8d47806e56cd0ccdbbd9ba46c8861ad5064e] 00:27:52 <aleth> and I thought "formatAutoResponce" was a typo ;) http://lxr.instantbird.org/instantbird/source/chat/modules/imThemes.jsm#376 00:28:24 <Mook_as> it is! it's just a shared typo ;) 00:29:56 <clokep> Hmmm? 00:30:04 <clokep> Is that causing an issue or just looking over random code? 00:30:27 <aleth> no issue, it's consistent... just something I stumbled over 00:30:29 <clokep> Typos should still be fixed though. :) 00:34:49 <instantbot> clokep@gmail.com requested review from florian@instantbird .org for attachment 1124 on bug 1135. 00:34:52 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1135 min, --, ---, clokep, ASSI, Log date is not translated 00:53:14 <instant-buildbot> build #200 of win32-onCommit is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/win32-onCommit/builds/200 00:53:55 --> adev has joined #instantbird 00:55:10 <-- adev has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2a1pre) 00:56:25 --> adev has joined #instantbird 00:56:34 <-- aleth has left #instantbird () 00:56:48 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 00:58:35 <-- chrisccoulson_ has quit (Ping timeout) 01:00:28 <-- adev has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2a1pre) 01:00:59 <-- EionRobb has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 01:01:26 --> adev has joined #instantbird 01:01:53 <-- adev has left #instantbird () 01:09:09 --> EionRobb has joined #instantbird 01:20:14 <-- Tonnes has quit (Ping timeout) 01:24:53 <instant-buildbot> build #179 of 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has quit (Ping timeout) 11:10:23 <-- chrisccoulson has quit (Quit: Ex-Chat) 11:10:27 --> chrisccoulson has joined #instantbird 11:14:38 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 11:14:38 * ChanServ sets mode +h clokep 11:21:52 --> mmkmou has joined #instantbird 11:27:25 --> Even_ has joined #instantbird 11:29:31 <-- jb has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2a1pre) 11:29:43 <-- Even_ has quit (Ping timeout) 11:30:18 --> Even_ has joined #instantbird 11:33:10 <-- clokep has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2a1pre) 11:33:30 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 11:33:30 * ChanServ sets mode +h clokep 11:34:06 <clokep> Bah, every time there's something in the nightly build I really want...the partial update fails. Very annoying. 11:36:35 <flo> clokep: keep a copy of your previous nightly 11:36:51 <flo> We (Even and me) suspect the current windows nightly has a completely broken libpurple 11:37:05 <clokep> Ah, OK. 11:37:20 <flo> I would still like to know if you can reproduce 11:37:25 <flo> but be prepared to revert ;) 11:37:49 <clokep> Alright. :) I'll try in a few minutes. 11:37:59 <flo> and then we will disable the auto-update ^^ 11:39:24 <-- clokep has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2a1pre) 11:41:06 --> Plop has joined #instantbird 11:43:13 <-- Plop has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.1) 11:45:20 <-- Even_ has quit (Ping timeout) 11:46:02 --> Even_ has joined #instantbird 11:57:05 <flo> ok, I think the update is disabled 11:59:36 <-- Even_ has quit (Ping timeout) 12:00:20 --> Even_ has joined #instantbird 12:22:27 --> Nitrox has joined #instantbird 12:26:10 <-- Nitrox has quit (Quit: Connection to internet lost) 12:32:55 <-- mmkmou has quit (Ping timeout) 12:37:57 --> Guido has joined #instantbird 12:49:06 --> mmkmou has joined #instantbird 12:54:40 --> clokep_work has joined #instantbird 12:54:40 * ChanServ sets mode +h clokep_work 13:03:31 <clokep_work> flo: So is the plan to just back out the changes in that one file or? 13:16:15 --> Tonnes has joined #instantbird 13:18:39 <-- chrisccoulson has quit (Quit: Ex-Chat) 13:19:25 --> chrisccoulson has joined #instantbird 13:24:42 <flo> clokep_work: I don't think we have a plan yet :) 13:24:59 <flo> but we can either back-out (and get back hundreds of warnings) 13:25:24 <flo> or add #undef statements before the defines when we are on MSVC10 13:45:27 --> ecaron has joined #instantbird 13:46:35 <Even_> flo: I vote for the undef statements 13:46:40 <Even_> flo: seems nicer :) 13:46:58 * flo will only accept votes in the form of patches :-P 13:47:16 <flo> (but yeah, it seems nicer) 13:47:33 <Even_> I'm happy you've got the same feeling there ;) 13:47:53 <Even_> Though, as a quick fix, backing out will cut it. 13:48:20 <Even_> Better to have working nightlies than to upload every day broken ones :) 14:21:03 <flo> I agree. My plan is to attempt to do something correct, and if when I'm about to go to bed we have nothing ready to commit, then just back out... 14:21:45 <-- mmkmou has quit (Ping timeout) 14:36:49 --> mmkmou has joined #instantbird 15:07:52 --> Tomek has joined #instantbird 15:25:19 <-- mmkmou has quit (Ping timeout) 15:31:36 <-- Tobin has quit (Quit: Everything you do is to hurt me, leave me alone.) 15:32:31 <-- Tonnes has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88 [Firefox 9.0.1/20111220165912]) 15:38:53 --> Tonnes has joined #instantbird 15:40:49 <-- Guido has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.1) 15:41:25 --> mmkmou has joined #instantbird 15:49:47 --> jb has joined #instantbird 15:59:09 --> jb1 has joined #instantbird 15:59:43 <-- jb has quit (Ping timeout) 16:05:04 <-- Suiseiseki has quit (Ping timeout) 16:06:11 --> Suiseiseki has joined #instantbird 16:07:13 <-- Suiseiseki has quit (Quit: Quit) 16:13:03 <-- ecaron has quit (Ping timeout) 16:28:16 --> Suiseiseki has joined #instantbird 16:28:51 <-- Tomek has quit (Ping timeout) 16:29:04 <-- flo has quit (Ping timeout) 16:29:07 --> flo has joined #instantbird 16:29:07 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo flo 16:29:10 <-- clokep_work has quit (Ping timeout) 16:29:13 --> Tomek has joined #instantbird 16:39:01 <-- mmkmou has quit (Ping timeout) 16:39:20 --> clokep_work has joined #instantbird 16:39:20 * ChanServ sets mode +h clokep_work 16:41:47 <clokep_work> flo: Sounds like a good plan. :) 16:55:14 --> mmkmou has joined #instantbird 16:55:18 --> wesj has joined #instantbird 17:06:04 <-- MadWookiee has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.1) 17:54:22 --> Mook_as has joined #instantbird 17:54:40 --> iLobster has joined #instantbird 17:54:48 <iLobster> Greetings 17:58:35 <-- flo has quit (Ping timeout) 17:58:51 <iLobster> Do anyone have problems with connection to ICQ with last nightly? 17:59:21 <Mook_as> greetings, crustacean. I don't recall any issues, but nor did I specifically check that it succeeded. 17:59:30 --> flo has joined #instantbird 17:59:30 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo flo 18:01:35 <-- gerard-majax has quit (Ping timeout) 18:11:46 --> mikk_s has joined #instantbird 18:12:06 <-- mikk_s has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.1) 18:14:39 --> osmano807 has joined #instantbird 18:18:15 <osmano807> Does anyone know why it is giving this error when I try to compile the instantbird? http://pastebin.instantbird.com/9021 18:19:43 <flo> where did you get the source code from? 18:20:10 * Mook_as wonders if it's to do with make -j 18:20:25 <flo> Mook_as: on linux make -j isn't an issue 18:20:49 <Mook_as> oh, I meant "missing dependencies", not "it likes to crash randomly" :p 18:20:54 <flo> (and a path starting with /home/ feels like linux to me) 18:21:12 * Mook_as guesses archlinux? 18:22:12 <osmano807> flo: http://instantbird.com/downloads/1.1/instantbird-1.1.src.tgz 18:22:18 <osmano807> Mook_as: yes 18:22:58 <flo> have you configured anything special in the mozconfig file? 18:25:30 <osmano807> flo: http://pastebin.instantbird.com/9022 18:25:54 <osmano807> flo: That's it, I see nothing wrong. 18:26:17 <flo> ac_add_options --with-libxul-sdk=/usr/lib/xulrunner-devel-9.0.1 is obviously wrong 18:26:29 <Mook_as> hmm, my 1.1 is using gecko 7, at least 18:26:58 <flo> if you want to use gecko 9.0.1, you need to use the source code of the current nightlies 18:27:07 <flo> (from https://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/) 18:27:36 <osmano807> flo: Oh, right. 18:35:19 <-- flo has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2a1pre) 18:36:55 <-- osmano807 has left #instantbird (QUIT :Leaving.) 18:41:22 <-- jb1 has quit (Ping timeout) 18:44:28 --> gerard-majax has joined #instantbird 18:46:59 <-- iLobster has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88 [Firefox 9.0.1/20111220165912]) 19:05:24 <-- mmkmou has quit (Ping timeout) 19:09:33 --> Mautematico has joined #instantbird 19:10:25 <-- clokep_work has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 19:20:54 --> mmkmou has joined #instantbird 19:21:07 <-- mmkmou has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2a1pre) 19:27:14 --> Mnyromyr has joined #instantbird 19:37:06 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 19:43:37 --> EionRobb has joined #instantbird 19:45:39 <-- aleth has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2a1pre) 19:45:49 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 19:46:44 <-- chrisccoulson has quit (Ping timeout) 19:50:40 --> chrisccoulson has joined #instantbird 19:58:05 <-- Mautematico has quit (Ping timeout) 20:22:01 <-- aleth has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2a1pre) 20:23:32 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 20:41:15 --> flo has joined #instantbird 20:41:15 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo flo 20:41:31 --> jb has joined #instantbird 20:43:24 <-- jb has quit (Ping timeout) 21:01:02 <-- Tomek has quit (Ping timeout) 21:17:24 --> Segaja has joined #instantbird 21:17:49 <Segaja> hi, i get this error during make: make[5]: *** No rule to make target `_xpidlgen/imICommandsService.h', needed by `export'. Stop. 21:19:18 <Mook_as> Segaja: what's your .mozconfig like? (use a pastebin, please) 21:19:56 <Segaja> where is it located? 21:20:42 <Mook_as> err, ignore that, then - how are you building instantbird? 21:21:08 <Segaja> hang on. can't i just download an archive, extract it and run it? 21:21:32 <flo> usually, yes :) 21:21:41 <Segaja> ok, so my question is irrelevant 21:21:43 <Mook_as> yes, but then you shouldn't have messages from make ;) 21:21:43 <Segaja> i have it running 21:21:45 <Segaja> sorry 21:21:54 <Segaja> right, archlinux installer tries to build it 21:22:07 <Segaja> but as usually i don't use archlinux repos for mozilla products 21:22:37 <Mook_as> fwiw, you're the second arch guy today with that error :) 21:22:51 <Mook_as> (it appears they're using mozilla 9.0.1 with instantbird 1.1, which isn't going to work...) 21:23:19 <Segaja> ok 21:23:23 <flo> is there any way to send them feedback to tell them what they are doing is wrong? 21:23:48 <Mook_as> I think so; let me see what I can dig up 21:23:59 <Segaja> http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=19350 21:24:17 <Segaja> already done by someone 21:24:23 <Mook_as> nice, the error is on that page too ;) 21:24:40 <Segaja> that is the page for the archlinux package of instantbird 21:25:03 <Segaja> the only dep is xulrunner >= 7.0 21:25:08 <Segaja> according to their file 21:25:16 <Mook_as> right, where it should be = 7.0 instead 21:25:34 <Mook_as> (because mozilla is awesome about backwards compatibility) 21:25:45 <Segaja> wright it as comment 21:25:50 <Mook_as> do you know how to file bugs against that package? 21:25:54 <Mook_as> (because I don't) 21:26:23 <Mook_as> oh, their bugzilla-ish-thing is https://bugs.archlinux.org/proj2?tasks=all&project=2&toggleadvanced=1 21:26:45 <Segaja> https://bugs.archlinux.org 21:26:56 <Segaja> under the AUR category 21:27:17 <Segaja> instantbird is provided as an AUR package in archlin ux 21:28:01 <Segaja> or try to contact the maintainer of the package 21:28:12 <Segaja> btw. how stable are the instantbird nightlies? 21:28:23 <flo> emailing the maintainer sounds like the easiest way 21:29:13 <flo> Segaja: they tend to work pretty well :). They break maybe once or twice a year (in which case you need to download the previous or next version yourself) 21:29:56 <Segaja> okay 21:30:08 <Segaja> hm, what does "Error: SSL Handshake Failed" mean? 21:30:42 <flo> the most frequent cause is that you are connecting to an XMPP server with a self signed certificate 21:30:55 <flo> (or signed by CACert, which is more or less the same thing) 21:31:20 <Segaja> that is true 21:31:32 <Segaja> other clients (like pidgin) ask if i want to accept it anyway 21:31:40 <Segaja> is there some way to tell instantbird to do that? 21:32:02 <flo> you can import the certificate from the advanced tab of the preferences dialog 21:32:52 <Segaja> uhm... 21:33:23 <Segaja> could you be a bit less cryptic? ;) 21:34:32 <flo> hmm, it may be called options on linux rather than preferences 21:35:19 <Segaja> i'm in prefs and advanced 21:35:24 <flo> anyway, from the menu of the contact list, open the window where you can change preferences/options. Then, select the last tab ("Advanced"), then the last sub-tab ("Encryption") 21:35:26 <Segaja> and then "encryption" 21:35:32 <flo> "View certificates" 21:35:40 <Segaja> ok 21:36:02 <flo> "Authorities" 21:36:07 <flo> "Import" 21:36:18 <Segaja> ok, small problem 21:36:19 <flo> and then you give it whatever certificate your server needs 21:36:23 <Segaja> where do i get the cert file? 21:36:35 <flo> I don't know 21:36:45 <flo> you haven't told me what you server uses to sign :-P 21:36:48 <flo> *your 21:37:10 <Segaja> no idea. 21:37:15 <Segaja> the server is jabber.bigpoint.net 21:37:28 <Mook_as> what port is it again? 21:37:32 <Segaja> 5222 21:38:42 --> clokep_work has joined #instantbird 21:38:42 * ChanServ sets mode +h clokep_work 21:39:33 * clokep_work wonders if Even has any ideas about the issue with running Instantbird on Xubuntu that was posted today... 21:39:42 <clokep_work> What's with all the *nix people trying Instantbird today, aynway? :P 21:40:00 <Segaja> clokep_work: dunno, but i'm one of them 21:40:04 <flo> clokep_work: failing to try Instantbird ;) 21:40:06 <Segaja> and failed with the archlinux AUR package 21:40:43 <Segaja> flo: if i connect to the account with pidgin and accept the cert, can i somehow extract it from pidgin to import it in instantbird? 21:40:48 <flo> clokep_work: he most likely misses the 32bit version of a libpurple dependency 21:40:59 <flo> Segaja: I don't think so. 21:41:06 <Segaja> hm... 21:41:32 <Segaja> why doesn't instantbird offer such a dialog to accept an unstrusted cert? 21:41:32 <flo> the last resort solution is to completely turn of SSL certificate checking, but it's not terribly secure 21:41:46 <clokep_work> Segaja: Cause we haven't written one yet. 21:41:53 <Segaja> fair enough 21:41:57 <flo> Segaja: because it's surprisingly difficult to do and we haven't finished that in time for the 1.1 release 21:42:28 <Segaja> ok, to turn the check of i need to uncheck the SSL 3.0 element in Encrypt? 21:42:35 <flo> there's no UI for it 21:42:49 <flo> Advanced->General->Config Editor 21:42:49 <Segaja> ah ok 21:43:11 <flo> and then search for purple.ssl.check_certificates 21:43:17 <flo> set it to false 21:43:32 <Segaja> works 21:43:35 <Segaja> thanks 21:43:57 <flo> but it's terribly unsecure ;) 21:44:55 <Segaja> i know, but now i can work on the way to get the cert 21:45:02 <Segaja> any suggestions for that? 21:45:24 <flo> clokep_work: if that Xubuntu user could just download a 64bit version, that would probably work without any problem. I don't remember if we have build a 64bit 1.1 though 21:45:37 <clokep_work> I don't think we do flo. 21:45:44 <flo> ask the server admin? 21:46:09 <clokep_work> Doesn't seem like we do: http://ftp.instantbird.com/instantbird/releases/1.1/ 21:46:39 <flo> 1.0 is old enough that I don't have any idea of what was different then, so I can probably claim that a point release can't be that important and he should use 1.0 64 bit? :-D 21:46:43 <Segaja> so, any addons i should be aware of? 21:47:20 * clokep_work wonders why http://ftp.instantbird.com/instantbird/releases/1.0/ isn't show on http://ftp.instantbird.com/instantbird/releases/ 21:47:49 <clokep_work> Segaja: https://addons.instantbird.org/en-US/instantbird/ 21:49:13 <flo> clokep_work: fixed 21:49:16 <Segaja> hm, none of the recommended strike me as need to have 21:49:39 <clokep_work> Segaja: Depends on your needs. 21:49:47 <clokep_work> Maybe if you said what it's missing for you...? 21:49:52 <Segaja> i want to use instantbird for xmpp at the moment 21:49:55 <flo> Segaja: if there was something everybody needs to have and that we could guess you need without knowing anything about your usage patterns, it would be there by default 21:50:14 <Segaja> clokep_work: at the moment i don't miss anything :) 21:50:33 <flo> Segaja: i'm jealous! :-P 21:50:48 <Segaja> except of the SSL cert accept dialog :P 21:55:25 <flo> clokep_work: haven't I already commented that the indent in chat/protocols/irc/Makefile.in mixes tabs and spaces? 21:57:03 <flo> uh, the only localized string used for indicating connection progress is "Sending the QUIT message"? 21:59:04 <flo> how are "Connection reset." and "Socket closed unexpectedly." different from a user point of view? Aren't they both technical garbage? What about something like "Lost connection with server" for both? (the technical detail can go to the error console, right?) 22:00:48 <flo> when is defaultAway=I am away from my computer. used? Can't it use the (default) value from messenger.status.defaultIdleAwayMessage? 22:02:12 <flo> does "Character Set Encoding" mean anything? (I think we frequently see "character set" or "encoding" or (rarely) "character encoding") 22:02:44 <flo> options.defaultEncoding=UTF-8 what is a localized supposed to do with that string? 22:03:11 <flo> what's options.username=Username and options.realname=Real name ? 22:03:43 <Segaja> so many questions and no answers 22:04:11 <aleth> Segaja: I think they are mostly rhetorical questions ;) 22:04:32 <Mook_as> right, darn, I forgot about looking at that patch. 22:04:44 <flo> Segaja: I suspect some answers will come in the form of a new patch when clokep will no longer be at work and I'll be asleep ;) 22:04:45 <Segaja> i would think so too 22:04:57 <Segaja> also i concure about the close message 22:05:40 <flo> the close message? :-S 22:06:04 <Segaja> the quit stuff i mean 22:06:21 <Segaja> with lost connection and socket closed unexptedly 22:07:26 <flo> clokep_work: when using %1$S in %2$S the localizable string, I think it's clearer to also use %1$S in the localization note, rather than "first %S" 22:08:42 <flo> ctcp.version=%1$S is using %2$S. should we add some quotes around %2$S ? 22:08:54 <clokep_work> flo: You did, but I didn't upload a new patch yet. 22:09:02 <flo> ok :) 22:09:52 <flo> clokep_work: don't forget to add irc.js (and probably a manifest file) in package-manifest.in :) 22:10:52 <flo> |command.ctcp=%S <nick> <msg>: Sends ctcp msg to nick.| as ctcp is an acronym, should we write CTCP? 22:10:58 <clokep_work> I'm going home though, will read later. 22:11:03 <-- clokep_work has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1+j) 22:11:51 <flo> "Send a command to the ChanServ." shouldn't that be "to ChanServ" (as it's a nick) or "to the channel server"? 22:13:03 <Segaja> i would keep the word "ChanServ" in it 22:14:08 <flo> (same comment applies for {Memo,Nick,Oper}Serv of course) 22:14:43 <flo> why does the list command cause some servers to disconnect the user? 22:15:07 <Segaja> because the output can be very long 22:15:19 <Segaja> and you get disconnected for flooding 22:16:46 <flo> it's not possible to part with a message without specifying the channel name? That seems... strange :-S 22:17:13 <Segaja> wouldn't that be a quit? 22:17:29 <flo> Segaja: isn't the server flooding you in that case? It doesn't make much sense to be disconnected for things that are being sent to you 22:17:38 <Segaja> hm, i think i can part the current channel with a message without adding the name in the command 22:18:07 <Segaja> flo: don't know about the flooding, but it was my first idea 22:18:25 <flo> Segaja: it was my first idea too ;). But it doesn't really make sense 22:18:35 <Segaja> well the irssi help says so too 22:19:13 <Segaja> can't you add the channel name to the part command if it is not given? 22:19:53 <flo> "Send CTCP VERSION request to a user." is too technical for the average user (you can argue that average users don't use commands though :)) 22:21:57 <Segaja> well CTCP is some very technical command 22:22:00 <flo> why are there 2 separate whois/whowas commands? Can't they be merged into a single /who command? (maybe in a follow up though, as I don't know how easy the detection would be) 22:22:04 <Segaja> i don't think an average user will use it 22:22:24 <Segaja> whois gives you information about a current user 22:22:33 <Segaja> whowas about a user that was online but isn't anymore 22:23:05 <flo> Segaja: I know that. 22:23:23 <flo> Segaja: I'm reviewing https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/attachment.cgi?id=1115&action=diff and suggesting simplifications. 22:23:35 --> Mautematico has joined #instantbird 22:23:51 <Segaja> /who is a different command all together 22:23:54 <Segaja> at least in irssi 22:24:20 <flo> "the second parameter is the source of the user who joined" that's nonsense to me (so probably to localizers too). 22:24:28 <Mautematico> Hi 22:24:37 <flo> Segaja: oh right, /who is used to find users that match a pattern, right? 22:24:42 <flo> Mautematico: hello :) 22:24:53 --> Tomek has joined #instantbird 22:25:01 <Mautematico> :) 22:25:01 <Mautematico> I'm using Instantbird 1.2 and Ubuntu 11.10 22:25:03 <Segaja> flo: where is that sentence from? 22:25:24 <flo> Segaja: I'm currently looking at chat/locales/en-US/irc.properties 22:25:26 <Mautematico> But, I tink someting is wrong whit the Instantbird tray icon 22:25:48 <flo> Mautematico: Instantbird 1.2 hasn't been released yet 22:26:01 <Mautematico> I know. I'm using nigtly 22:26:44 <Segaja> flo: you mean the comment about message.join? 22:26:57 <Segaja> if so the second parameter would be the host 22:27:47 <Mautematico> I'm uploading a picture. :) 22:29:13 <Segaja> flo: am i understanding this right that you are placing the libpurple irc implementation? 22:29:35 <flo> Segaja: again, I know what the parameter contains. What I'm saying is that the comment doesn't make sense, and doesn't help someone who wouldn't know without the comment 22:30:08 <flo> Segaja: we plan to replace the libpurple irc plugin with a JavaScript easily extensible implementation 22:30:12 <Segaja> well then write that it is the host 22:30:20 <Segaja> nice 22:30:28 <Segaja> did you look at other IRC JS implementations? 22:30:58 <flo> Segaja: yes. They are crappy. 22:31:14 <flo> "They are crappy" that's a summary of course :-D 22:31:25 <Segaja> ok 22:31:32 <Segaja> i only know two 22:31:39 <Segaja> the quakenet irc client and mibbit 22:31:44 <flo> there are details on clokep's blog: http://clokep.blogspot.com/ 22:31:53 <Mautematico> flo: http://i41.tinypic.com/cj9c2.png 22:31:59 <flo> Segaja: we looked mostly at ChatZilla 22:32:19 <flo> does mibbit implement the IRC protocol in JS? I thought it was purely server-side 22:32:28 <Segaja> coule be. i don't know 22:32:33 <Segaja> i only know it has irc parts 22:32:50 <flo> Mautematico: I don't see any instantbird icon there 22:32:55 <Mautematico> flo: If I click on the space between aMSN and Dropbox icons, Instantbirds open. 22:33:03 <flo> ah 22:33:15 <Mautematico> flo: ¡¡exactly!! The icon is NOT here. 22:33:18 <Mautematico> :) 22:34:13 <Mautematico> I think... Maybe the icon is lost. How can I "change" this? 22:40:05 <flo> I don't know :( 22:40:34 <Segaja> can't one check that the file exists for starters? 22:50:19 <Mautematico> :) tnks 22:50:34 <Mautematico> good bye, see you soon. :) 22:57:10 <flo> Segaja: why would the file not exist? 22:57:27 <Segaja> some strange bug in the packaging? 22:57:42 <Segaja> or do you create the ubuntu .deb packages yourself? 22:57:51 <Segaja> or they store it in some strange place 22:58:14 <flo> as far as I know, there's currently no deb package, so I assumed he downloaded the archive from our website 22:58:34 <flo> "currently no deb package" I meant on ubuntu. 22:58:45 <flo> err, on current versions of ubuntu. 22:58:47 <Segaja> hm ok 22:59:06 <Segaja> what format is the icon? 22:59:54 <-- Mautematico has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2a1pre) 23:00:36 <flo> probably png 23:01:26 <Segaja> hm, so ubuntu should be able to view this 23:01:28 <aleth> FWIW I've seen recent nightlies run on kubuntu 11.10 without any icon problems. Could be a Unity thing? 23:01:41 <flo> aleth: likely 23:01:57 <aleth> If you feel you might be missing a file, why not just reinstall Instantbird? You won't lose your configuration 23:02:15 <flo> aleth: he has left ;) 23:02:24 <Segaja> i could test it on ubuntu 11.04 with normal gnome 23:02:56 <aleth> oops ;) 23:03:03 <flo> instantbot: review clokep's patch 23:03:06 <instantbot> flo: Sorry, I've no idea what 'review clokep's patch' might be. 23:03:29 <flo> :-/ firebot had a better message for that :-( 23:18:27 <-- Mnyromyr has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [SeaMonkey 1.1.19/2010030105]) 23:48:08 <flo> Good night 23:48:11 <-- flo has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2a1pre)