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00:00:54 <-- jb has quit (Ping timeout) 00:01:33 --> jb has joined #instantbird 00:06:13 <-- jb has quit (Ping timeout) 01:09:10 <-- myk has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.1) 01:49:28 <clokep> instantbot: uuid 01:49:29 <instantbot> 5ee4e023-8440-4fa2-8648-de3668973bca (/msg instantbot cid for CID form) 01:57:17 <-- Mook_as has quit (Quit: gone) 02:06:30 <clokep> instantbot: uuid 02:06:31 <instantbot> 8c24d6f7-d568-4f53-b604-974cc795ad39 (/msg instantbot cid for CID form) 02:07:17 <EionRobb> which type of uuid does it generate? 02:13:53 <clokep> I think it's the same type that uuidgen generates? 02:14:35 <clokep> Which I'm realizing just now I could use instead....:p 02:14:39 <clokep> I do have a shell open haha. 04:01:02 <-- clokep has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2a1pre) 04:18:13 <-- EionRobb has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 04:34:25 --> Mook has joined #instantbird 04:54:13 --> Draighth has joined #instantbird 06:15:18 <-- DGMurdockIII has quit (Quit: get satisfied!  :: core-networks.de ««« (Gamers.IRC) »»» gamersirc.net ::) 06:25:00 <-- Draighth has quit (Ping timeout) 06:53:29 <-- Tomek has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.1) 08:04:35 --> micahg has joined #instantbird 08:05:15 <-- micahg has quit (Client exited) 08:05:28 --> micahg has joined #instantbird 08:33:13 <-- Mook has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.87-rdmsoft [XULRunner 6.0/20110811165603]) 08:40:19 <-- gerard-majax has quit (Ping timeout) 08:54:38 --> DGMurdockIII has joined #instantbird 09:10:21 <-- Even1 has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2a1pre) 09:10:35 --> Even1 has joined #instantbird 09:45:44 --> chrisccoulson has joined #instantbird 09:49:42 --> mmkmou has joined #instantbird 09:50:03 <-- mmkmou has quit (Client exited) 09:50:25 --> mmkmou has joined #instantbird 10:03:23 --> gerard-majax has joined #instantbird 10:07:56 * Even1 is now known as instant-buildbot 10:08:49 --> instant-buildbot1 has joined #instantbird 10:09:25 <-- instant-buildbot has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2a1pre) 10:09:26 <-- instant-buildbot1 has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2a1pre) 10:09:28 --> Even1 has joined #instantbird 10:10:08 --> instant-buildbot has joined #instantbird 10:11:37 <-- instant-buildbot has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2a1pre) 10:16:04 --> instant-buildbot has joined #instantbird 10:16:21 <Even1> instant-buildbot: help 10:16:21 <instant-buildbot> Get help on what? (try 'help <foo>', or 'commands' for a command list) 10:16:36 <Even1> instant-buildbot: help commands 10:16:36 <instant-buildbot> Usage: commands - List available commands 10:16:45 <Even1> instant-buildbot: commands 10:16:46 <instant-buildbot> buildbot commands: commands, dance, destroy, excited, force, hello, help, last, list, mute, notify, source, status, stop, unmute, version, watch 10:16:58 <Even1> instant-buildbot: last 10:16:58 <instant-buildbot> last build [linux-nightly-default]: 6h41m58s ago: build successful 10:16:59 <instant-buildbot> last build [linux-onCommit]: 91h23m24s ago: build successful 10:16:59 <instant-buildbot> last build [macosx-nightly-default]: 3h40m09s ago: build successful 10:16:59 <instant-buildbot> last build [macosx-onCommit]: 60h02m38s ago: build successful 10:16:59 <instant-buildbot> last build [win32-nightly-default]: 4h56m41s ago: build successful 10:16:59 <instant-buildbot> last build [win32-onCommit]: 178h33m27s ago: failed shell 10:17:38 <Even1> instant-buildbot: status 10:17:39 <instant-buildbot> linux-nightly-default: idle, last build 6h42m38s ago: build successful 10:17:39 <instant-buildbot> linux-onCommit: idle, last build 91h24m04s ago: build successful 10:17:39 <instant-buildbot> macosx-nightly-default: offline 10:17:39 <instant-buildbot> macosx-onCommit: offline 10:17:39 <instant-buildbot> win32-nightly-default: idle, last build 4h57m21s ago: build successful 10:17:39 <instant-buildbot> win32-onCommit: idle, last build 178h34m07s ago: failed shell 10:18:11 <Even1> Looks fun :) 10:18:49 <Even1> instant-buildbot: hello 10:18:50 <instant-buildbot> yes? 10:18:54 <Even1> :P 10:18:56 <Even1> Ok :) 10:18:58 <Even1> Ca sert à rien :D 10:21:16 --> flo has joined #instantbird 10:21:16 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo flo 10:21:55 <Even1> instant-buildbot: status 10:21:55 <instant-buildbot> linux-nightly-default: idle, last build 6h46m54s ago: build successful 10:21:55 <instant-buildbot> linux-onCommit: idle, last build 91h28m21s ago: build successful 10:21:55 <instant-buildbot> macosx-nightly-default: offline 10:21:55 <instant-buildbot> macosx-onCommit: offline 10:21:55 <instant-buildbot> win32-nightly-default: idle, last build 5h01m37s ago: build successful 10:21:56 <instant-buildbot> win32-onCommit: idle, last build 178h38m23s ago: failed shell 10:22:28 <Even1> Do you like this flo? 10:22:39 <Even1> I recall you were looking forward something like this ^^ 10:22:49 <Even1> Should also notify people about build status. 10:25:02 <flo> instant-buildbot: help dance 10:25:02 <instant-buildbot> No usage info for 'dance' 10:25:06 <flo> :-S 10:25:11 <flo> instant-buildbot: help force 10:25:12 <instant-buildbot> Usage: force build [--branch=branch] [--revision=revision] [--props=prop1=val1,prop2=val2...] <which> <reason> - Force a build 10:25:13 <Even1> lol 10:25:16 <Even1> instant-buildbot: DANCE 10:25:17 <instant-buildbot> <(^.^<) 10:25:18 <instant-buildbot> <(^.^)> 10:25:19 <instant-buildbot> (>^.^)> 10:25:19 <instant-buildbot> (7^.^)7 10:25:21 <instant-buildbot> (>^.^<) 10:25:24 <Even1> Y a pas bsoin d'unusage pour ça :P 10:25:37 <flo> Even1: you still need a translator though :-P 10:25:49 <Even1> Somehow... 10:26:03 <Even1> force is locked 10:26:08 <Even1> you should not be able to use it 10:26:41 <flo> couldn't we unlock it for operators? 10:26:41 <Even1> instant-buildbot: force build win32-nightly-default 10:26:42 <instant-buildbot> builder control is not enabled 10:26:53 <Even1> ok, this looks good :) 10:27:10 <Even1> flo: I did'nnt found any options like this, this is a shame 10:27:18 <Even1> looks like either anyone can use it or noone 10:27:54 <-- flo has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2a1pre) 10:28:06 --> flo has joined #instantbird 10:28:06 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo flo 10:28:26 <Even1> would be great if you could auto voice instant-buildbot :) 10:30:34 <flo> Even1: if I kick it, will it come back? 10:35:52 <Even1> you can try ^^ 10:35:55 <Even1> I really don't know 10:36:05 <-- flo has kicked instant-buildbot from #instantbird 10:36:19 <Even1> DOn't looks like it will :) 10:37:07 --> instant-buildbot has joined #instantbird 10:37:07 * ChanServ sets mode +v instant-buildbot 10:37:11 <Even1> k :) 10:37:11 <flo> :) 10:37:16 <Even1> I restarted bb and here it is :) 10:40:29 <-- mmkmou has quit (Ping timeout) 10:56:01 --> mmkmou has joined #instantbird 11:05:00 <-- micahg has quit (Ping timeout) 11:05:42 --> micahg has joined #instantbird 11:13:07 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 11:13:07 * ChanServ sets mode +h clokep 11:18:10 <clokep> More bots to play with?! :) 11:18:25 <clokep> (Also the name makes it sound like it'll instantly build things. ;)) 11:24:00 <flo> well, it will instantly *start* building Instantbird ;) 11:30:42 --> guest has joined #instantbird 11:31:06 <clokep> :) It'll announce changes too I assume? 11:31:17 <guest> hey all :) 11:31:37 <clokep> Hello guest. 11:33:50 <-- guest has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 11:36:59 <flo> clokep: I hope so. I guess we will know soon :) 11:40:11 <clokep> I started looking at the purple request API last night. 11:40:55 <clokep> Makes me alternate between wanting to smack people and bash my head against a wall. 11:41:26 <flo> that API is plain wrong ;) 11:41:51 <clokep> Do you have any ideas of a better one though? 11:42:02 <clokep> I find it very hard to think of a different API after just reading someone elses API. :_/ 11:42:04 <flo> it lets the prpls send things to the UI that the UI can't handle in any reasonable way because the requests are generic (based on the type of data rather than on how the user is expected to behave with them) 11:42:20 <flo> clokep: just removing that API completely would be better. 11:42:27 <flo> clokep: that's the reason why Instantbird doesn't implement it. :) 11:42:49 <flo> each specific use case should have an API related to that use case 11:42:59 <flo> the prpls shouldn't request a string, but instead an invitation message 11:43:00 <flo> etc... 11:43:15 <clokep> flo: So you mean instead of something like "request_random_fields" which includes an image and a text field, it should specifically be "request_captcha" 11:43:20 <clokep> Ah OK. :) 11:44:22 <flo> it's difficult to think of a good API for the captcha situation because a captcha is a misfeature in itself. 11:44:55 <clokep> Right. 11:44:58 <flo> by the way, is there any other use case for the request image API? 11:45:11 <clokep> I don't know. 11:45:19 <flo> lxr is our friend :) 11:45:30 <clokep> I don't think it was used in other places. 11:46:43 <clokep> http://lxr.instantbird.org/instantbird/search?string=PURPLE_REQUEST_FIELD_IMAGE both gg and qq request images. 11:46:52 <clokep> gg is a "token_img" 11:47:24 <clokep> Which is also a captch athe comment says. :) 11:47:46 <flo> if it isn't used for anything else, it's a case of premature abstraction ;) 11:48:34 <-- mmkmou has quit (Ping timeout) 11:48:41 <clokep> That sounds like an awful lot of stuff in libpurple. 11:49:03 <flo> and you haven't looked at gloda... 11:49:15 <clokep> Is that premature abstraction too? :P 11:49:32 <flo> lots of pointless abstractions everywhere. But the things that I really need to change are hardcoded :-P. 11:50:15 <clokep> Oh, I thought about something when I couldn't sleep the other night...do we ever plan to combine logs based on merged contacts? Was curious if that's on your todo list as near term or just something we need to do eventually? 11:50:28 <flo> well, not really hardcoded in a blocking way: the things needed for email are in the core files, mixed with the core logic, but it's possible to add more stuff as add-ons. It's extensible :) 11:50:44 <flo> what does that mean? 11:50:50 <clokep> Ah, that's good. :) I'd imagine it's very email centric. 11:51:44 <flo> when you click "Show logs" on a contact, it already shows the logs for all the buddies of that contact. 11:51:55 <clokep> Oh it does that already. :) Haha. 11:51:58 <clokep> My bad. 11:52:02 <clokep> Just realized that. 11:55:35 <flo> ok, lunch time 12:01:15 --> MadWookiee has joined #instantbird 12:01:16 <-- clokep has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2a1pre) 12:04:16 --> mmkmou has joined #instantbird 12:09:31 <-- chrisccoulson has quit (Ping timeout) 12:11:21 <-- micahg has quit (Ping timeout) 12:27:08 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 12:28:44 <-- mmkmou has quit (Ping timeout) 12:38:11 --> clokep_work has joined #instantbird 12:38:11 * ChanServ sets mode +h clokep_work 12:42:05 * clokep_work is wondering if just crafting a special request.h for QQ that directly calls a prplIRequestCaptcha would be acceptable. 12:42:37 <-- clokep_work has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 12:44:48 --> mmkmou has joined #instantbird 12:47:22 <flo> clokep: if you are expecting to call an XPCOM API from a libpurple prpl, there's something wrong in your design ;) 12:47:50 <flo> you need either an uiop or a libpurple signal to go from libpurple to purplexpcom 12:48:34 --> clokep_work has joined #instantbird 12:48:34 * ChanServ sets mode +h clokep_work 12:55:00 <-- aleth has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2a1pre) 12:55:09 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 12:58:55 <clokep_work> flo: I meant registering a UI OP but only caring about it for QQ somehow (so it could be tailored to it). 13:01:41 <clokep_work> (Tailoring it so it doesn't need to implement the whole purple_request API) 13:04:53 --> micahg has joined #instantbird 13:06:01 --> jb has joined #instantbird 13:09:40 <go8765> why i cant find fresh .deb of instandbird? 13:13:16 <clokep_work> go8765: We don't provide .deb, if you're trying to get it from your distro, I don't think we havee any maintainers for distros right now. 13:16:10 <go8765> clokep_work: can i make .deb myselwe with archive from your site? 13:16:51 <clokep_work> "can" as in would we allow it or "can" as in "is it possible"? 13:16:57 <go8765> *myself 13:16:58 <clokep_work> I don't know the ansewr to the second one. :-D 13:18:21 <go8765> clokep_work: english is not my native. sorry for bed english ^):0 13:22:42 <clokep_work> It's OK. :) I'm unsure of your question though. 13:22:58 <clokep_work> I'm not sure it's possible to make a .deb from our archive, if it is; go ahead and do it! :) 13:23:03 <clokep_work> Even or flo would probably know more info. 13:23:42 <go8765> ok.thanks 13:24:56 <go8765> clokep_work: why when i run it - i have this message : 13:24:58 <go8765> instantbird Could not find compatible GRE between version 2.0 and 2.0.0.*. 13:25:24 <go8765> it is becouse i use old version instandbird? 13:25:40 <clokep_work> What are you running? 13:26:22 <clokep_work> Which file? 13:27:07 <go8765> clokep_work: i run ubuntu version of instandbird from repos 13:27:22 <clokep_work> The version of Instantbird in the repo is super old. 13:27:24 <clokep_work> I think. 13:27:43 <clokep_work> You can just unpack the archive on instantbird.com and ./instantbird 13:28:16 <go8765> :) 1.03 13:29:08 <go8765> i know. thanks) 13:34:10 <clokep_work> Does that work? :) 13:35:04 <go8765> i dont download it now. only in progress 13:36:02 <go8765> how you find maintainers for distros ? 13:36:55 <clokep_work> People volunteer to do it. 13:37:05 <clokep_work> We used to have one for Ubuntu, but he got too busy. 13:40:03 <-- micahg has quit (Ping timeout) 13:41:10 <go8765> clokep_work: if I had enough knowledge in this area, I would like to try) 13:42:17 <clokep_work> go8765: Great. :) I have no idea how involved it is. :-/ 13:43:32 <go8765> but unfortunately I do not have 13:43:45 <go8765> clokep_work: what you mean in your last message? 13:44:11 --> deOmega1 has joined #instantbird 13:44:39 <go8765> clokep_work: you said tha you dont know is it hart to make debs?) 13:45:44 --> chrisccoulson has joined #instantbird 13:45:49 <clokep_work> Yes. 13:46:00 <clokep_work> Or what's invovled in getting it into the Ubuntu repository. 13:47:47 <go8765> clokep_work: what os you use? 13:48:35 <clokep_work> Windows 7. 13:49:18 <go8765> :) 13:54:49 <deOmega1> good morning. Wishing you guys at IB the best for the New Year 13:55:03 <clokep_work> You too deOmega1! Hope you had a good holiday. :) 13:55:22 <deOmega1> clokep_work: yes it was. Thank you 13:56:30 <deOmega1> I came on to ask a question regarding a bug I filed. Does anyone have anyone that replies to them in any different color font than the default? 13:56:44 <deOmega1> If so, has those colore been coming through lately? 13:57:06 <deOmega1> have those colors been coming through lately? 13:59:01 <clokep_work> I think all my friends use black text. :-/ I'm not sure though. 13:59:12 <flo> deOmega1: hello (happy new year! :)) 13:59:19 <flo> haven't I replied in that bug? 13:59:25 <clokep_work> What bug # is this? 13:59:32 <-- clokep_work has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 13:59:59 <deOmega1> btw, I like the do not disturb addon by flo. Any thoughts to enhancing it to maybe a silence mode or something like that, to where people can still see you as available to communicate with you, but the messages are just parked in the buddy list window until you are ready to retrieve them? 14:00:03 <flo> bug 1231 14:00:06 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1231 nor, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, 'Display Formatting of incoming messages', does not seem to work. 14:00:18 <deOmega1> flo: Thank you 14:00:20 <flo> ouch, it seems I wrote an answer and forgot to hit "save changes" :( 14:01:05 <flo> deOmega1: is that bug only with Google Talk? 14:01:17 <flo> deOmega1: or do you have the same issue with other protocols? 14:02:00 <deOmega1> You kow.. maybe it is just googletalk. I have been moving away from the othe rprotocls and asking folks to switch to googletalk, because i get too much spam on those 14:02:50 <deOmega1> come to think f it, the last time i signed into msn, the spam text was in pink, so I suppose it is just googletalk 14:03:42 --> clokep_work has joined #instantbird 14:03:42 * ChanServ sets mode +h clokep_work 14:05:24 <deOmega1> hmm. is JS-XMPP. something new? because I used to get that sometime back over google talk 14:05:41 <deOmega1> get the color text 14:06:14 <-- jb has quit (Ping timeout) 14:06:37 <clokep_work> Yes. 14:06:54 <deOmega1> ah! Great. Thanks 14:07:47 <deOmega1> I have two individuals that claim to change their font color based on their moods. ha! This is not critical of course, but just wanted to share 14:08:19 <flo> deOmega1: and they are upset if you talk to them while they don't have the right-color mood? :) 14:08:34 <deOmega1> haha 14:08:54 <deOmega1> naah, i almost never initiate messages 14:09:36 <flo> the message color wouldn't be visible until they have replied at least once anyway ;) 14:09:57 --> jb has joined #instantbird 14:09:59 <deOmega1> Itlol 14:10:42 <deOmega1> flo, what do you think of the idea regarding your do not disturb addon 14:10:47 * flo is looking for a screenshot of Instantbird 0.2's buddy list 14:11:47 <flo> deOmega1: not much. That add-on was meant as a demonstration of the power of the interruption manager feature we introduced recently. I don't intend to add more feature to it. And I don't use it myself. 14:12:53 <deOmega1> OK. I like it except I hate to change the status to unavailable, because that shoudl tell folks to leave me alone really 14:13:03 <clokep_work> That's the point. :) 14:13:05 <flo> deOmega1: + it seems what you are asking would be easier to do as a completely separate add-on. Adding options makes the code mode difficult to understand 14:13:13 <-- clokep_work has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 14:13:37 <flo> *more 14:14:05 <deOmega1> ok, thank you 14:14:22 <flo> if you just want to prevent the sounds and prevent the conversations from opening, that's probably a less-than-10-lines-of-code add-on ;) 14:15:10 <flo> the only bit that isn't completely trivial in the current dnd add-on is reopening automatically the conversations when you are no longer unavailable. 14:16:11 <deOmega1> I do not mind that aspect .. i am fine going to the buuddy list and retrieving them individually 14:16:17 <flo> wow, 0.2 feels so far away when looking at the screenshots: http://instantbird.com/press-images-0.2.html 14:16:54 --> clokep_work has joined #instantbird 14:16:54 * ChanServ sets mode +h clokep_work 14:17:26 <-- mmkmou has quit (Ping timeout) 14:19:20 <deOmega1> ah, the addon could be something like.. private mode... no one sees a status change on their end, but switching to that mode, sends all new messages to the buddy list. 14:19:36 <deOmega1> Anyway, have agreat day.. and year guys. 14:20:58 <flo> deOmega1: what are you trying to achieve with this? 14:20:59 <clokep_work> flo: It definitely has come a long way from there. :) 14:21:23 <flo> clokep_work: looking at screenshots of 0.1.* versions is even more fun :) 14:23:15 <clokep_work> flo: Ah-ha! :) I still want to update the look of unread messages. ;) But I'm too lazy to look up the CSS. 14:23:19 <clokep_work> Bah I need to restart again. 14:23:22 <-- clokep_work has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 14:23:32 <flo> update the look of unread messages? 14:25:21 <deOmega1> flo: I am looking for the option of having less interruptions even though in regular chat mode. Maybe I am just too moody :). 14:25:40 <flo> or interrupted too frequently 14:25:57 <flo> I'm just wondering how you will know there are new messages if you remove the interruptions while you are available 14:28:33 <deOmega1> i would check periodically or I may even do something I have not been doing. Keeping my buddy list in constant view. 14:29:12 <flo> wouldn't that be more annoying? 14:29:19 <flo> or wouldn't you forget some messages? 14:29:42 <flo> do you currently have sounds enabled? 14:32:08 <deOmega1> i do not have sound enabled 14:33:05 <deOmega1> I am not sure it would be more annoying.. if it is, i would just move the window out of view 14:33:27 --> mmkmou has joined #instantbird 14:34:36 <flo> deOmega1: what I wanted to do for me (and have never actually implemented) was to use the dnd add-on in combination with a "focus helper" add-on, that would set me to unavailable for 20 or 30 minutes, and then set me back to available until I tell it again that I need to focus. 14:35:01 <flo> this way, all interruptions would be grouped, so that I'm never interrupted more than once or twice an hour 14:35:08 <-- SM0TVI has quit (Connection reset by peer) 14:35:36 <deOmega1> but hard to move active conversations out of view, while other messages popping in or .. and they can be distracting too 14:35:38 <deOmega1> hmmm 14:36:04 <deOmega1> flo: hmmm 14:37:30 <deOmega1> I have to wrap my brain around that concept 14:38:40 <deOmega1> But I do know that ANy improvement would be most welcome 14:39:36 <flo> that focus helper add-on would also put on hold all existing conversations, and hide the contacts window, so that Instantbird is actually out of view, and queuing all notifications 14:40:38 <deOmega1> but often times, my focus is with an individual over messenger 14:41:01 --> SM0TVI has joined #instantbird 14:42:59 <deOmega1> would it affect the active conversation I am in? Man, i really can only handle one at a time to be honest. 14:44:45 <flo> maybe what you are asking for is a "wait in line, please" add-on queuing conversations, and opening the next one only once you have closed the previous tab 14:46:28 <flo> I think that would typically be helpful for people handling support requests, and not able to threat more than N people at once (N depending on the multi tasking ability of the respondent and of the typing speed of the requesters) 14:47:40 <-- SM0TVI has quit (Quit: I view things as they are, without regard to place or person; my country is the world, and my religion is to do good. -- Thomas Paine (*1737 â 1809)) 14:48:00 <-- MadWookiee has quit (Ping timeout) 14:48:45 <-- chrisccoulson has quit (Quit: Ex-Chat) 14:50:17 <deOmega1> That sounds really ideal 14:50:47 <deOmega1> I am just horrible on handling multiple chats, but it is a necessary pain for me 14:51:10 --> SM0TVI has joined #instantbird 14:52:09 <flo> the add-on could auto-reply to people, telling them "there are currently N people waiting before you" 14:56:25 --> MadWookiee has joined #instantbird 14:58:04 <deOmega1> flo: haha, I know a few individuals that THAt would send crawling up the wall.. including my wife ha! 14:58:51 <flo> deOmega1: of course, that add-on may need exceptions for a few "special" people. The boss? The wife? ... 14:59:07 <deOmega1> nice 14:59:23 <deOmega1> and we can customize the message.... like, say be right with you 14:59:34 <flo> or more generally, people who are known to not interrupt you during your work time without a very good reason 14:59:37 <deOmega1> yes, be right there or be right with you 14:59:56 <flo> no message is needed at all if these special contacts aren't queued 14:59:57 <deOmega1> or even one moment please 15:00:09 <deOmega1> ok 15:02:00 <deOmega1> I definitely welcome something of teh sort 15:02:17 <deOmega1> ir as simple as dnd that does not require me to show someone a statuschange 15:02:28 <flo> I don't have time to work on that add-on, but if you can convince something to work on it, we will help for the implementation details ;) 15:02:54 <flo> *someone 15:03:35 <deOmega1> hmm, maybe i can try. 15:03:56 <deOmega1> where do you think is agod place for me to learn how to make a code as simple as that? 15:04:02 <deOmega1> liek atutorial 15:04:06 <deOmega1> a tutorial 15:04:37 <deOmega1> words like making a container for the addon etc, comes to mind, and that seems close to magical to me. 15:04:37 <-- mmkmou has quit (Ping timeout) 15:05:09 <flo> the easiest way to start is probably to read similar code 15:05:14 <flo> try to understand 15:05:32 <flo> then start changing details in that code and see how that changes the result, to confirm that your understanding was right 15:05:52 <-- go8765 has quit (Connection reset by peer) 15:06:51 <deOmega1> when you are making an addon... as i do you have to keep adding it to the platrofm and connect, over and over to know if it works? 15:07:29 <flo> "keep adding it to the platrofm" hmm? 15:07:38 <deOmega1> I will use your DNd addon and see what it has. 15:07:49 <deOmega1> keep installing it to IB, connect, see if it c works 15:08:38 <flo> there are ways to make Instantbird use the code directly without packaging and installing it 15:08:54 <flo> so we just restart Ib each time we want to see the effect of changes 15:10:38 --> chrisccoulson has joined #instantbird 15:11:02 <deOmega1> OK, thank you 15:15:59 --> ecaron has joined #instantbird 15:20:03 --> mmkmou has joined #instantbird 15:23:56 <-- Even1 has quit (Ping timeout) 15:27:27 --> Even1 has joined #instantbird 15:30:21 <-- mmkmou has quit (Ping timeout) 15:30:26 --> mmkmou has joined #instantbird 15:33:55 --> go8765 has joined #instantbird 15:34:51 <-- mmkmou has quit (Ping timeout) 15:35:46 --> clokep_work has joined #instantbird 15:35:47 * ChanServ sets mode +h clokep_work 15:36:22 <clokep_work> You can also ask questions deOmega1 if you don't understand particular lines, etc. ;) 15:39:35 <deOmega1> clokep_work: thank you :) 15:43:48 <clokep_work> Of course. 15:50:36 --> mmkmou has joined #instantbird 15:57:33 <-- chrisccoulson has quit (Quit: Ex-Chat) 16:02:10 --> chrisccoulson has joined #instantbird 16:34:12 <-- chrisccoulson has quit (Quit: Ex-Chat) 16:38:16 <-- go8765 has quit (Ping timeout) 16:40:37 <-- ecaron has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.1) 16:44:46 --> chrisccoulson has joined #instantbird 16:52:45 --> ecaron has joined #instantbird 16:54:09 --> diogo has joined #instantbird 16:54:19 <-- mmkmou has quit (Ping timeout) 16:54:45 <-- diogo has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.1) 16:54:49 --> diogo has joined #instantbird 17:09:19 --> mib_gqnl6n has joined #instantbird 17:09:31 <mib_gqnl6n> ?? 17:10:07 <mib_gqnl6n> what is best? instantbird o pidgin? 17:10:25 <flo> mib_gqnl6n: http://blog.instantbird.org/2011/07/why-should-i-switch-from-pidgin/ 17:10:31 --> mmkmou has joined #instantbird 17:12:07 <mib_gqnl6n> great! 17:18:53 --> myk has joined #instantbird 17:32:43 <-- jb has quit (Ping timeout) 17:42:55 <mib_gqnl6n> Why I can not connect to gtalk? 17:43:11 <-- myk has quit (Ping timeout) 17:43:37 <-- chrisccoulson has quit (Ping timeout) 17:44:43 <clokep_work> mib_gqnl6n: We would need to know moreinformation than that. 17:45:23 <diogo> I said that was occurring an problem with gtalk. Connect with jabber old SSL 17:46:22 <mib_gqnl6n> yes!, logged in that option, thanks. 17:47:11 --> Mook_as has joined #instantbird 17:54:54 <-- gerard-majax has quit (Ping timeout) 18:00:18 <-- MadWookiee has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.1) 18:00:36 --> myk has joined #instantbird 18:02:49 <mib_gqnl6n> How I can install add-ons? 18:03:17 --> chrisccoulson has joined #instantbird 18:04:00 <-- myk has quit (Ping timeout) 18:04:04 <mib_gqnl6n> How I can install plugins for windows version? 18:06:14 <clokep_work> mib_gqnl6n: Drag and drop from the addons.instantbird.org onto the add-ons manager. 18:06:21 <clokep_work> Or download them and then drag & drop the files. 18:06:31 <clokep_work> Or click "install addons" and browse to the file. 18:13:34 <mib_gqnl6n> excelent! 18:15:21 --> myk has joined #instantbird 18:18:44 <-- myk has quit (Ping timeout) 18:19:34 <diogo> Hey flo, do you received my email to open pt-BR repo? 18:20:03 <flo> yes... 18:20:48 <clokep_work> diogo: http://log.bezut.info/instantbird/120106/#m108 18:20:52 <diogo> Good! 18:21:25 <diogo> Sorry... I'll wait 18:21:25 --> Mnyromyr has joined #instantbird 18:27:49 <-- flo has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2a1pre) 18:41:33 <-- chrisccoulson has quit (Ping timeout) 18:46:30 --> myk has joined #instantbird 18:51:36 <-- myk has quit (Ping timeout) 18:51:50 <-- wesj has quit (Input/output error) 18:52:08 --> wesj has joined #instantbird 18:56:13 --> gerard-majax has joined #instantbird 19:23:32 <-- mmkmou has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2a1pre) 19:38:57 --> myk has joined #instantbird 19:40:00 --> jb has joined #instantbird 19:47:29 <instantbot> New Instantbird (UI) bug 1232 filed by diogo.mvieira@gmail.com. 19:47:32 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1232 maj, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, Google Talk (gtalk) account default configuration doesn't work 19:49:37 --> EionRobb has joined #instantbird 19:49:56 <-- jb has quit (Ping timeout) 19:52:14 <clokep_work> The link in that bug is insanely old. Fairly certain they support STARTTLS now, which is what our configuration is. 19:55:52 --> jb has joined #instantbird 19:57:12 <diogo> version 1.2 it's alright now? 19:59:08 <clokep_work> Version 1.2 isn't released yet. 20:02:08 <clokep_work> Just nightly builds right now. 20:03:59 <aleth> instant-buildbot: help 20:03:59 <instant-buildbot> Get help on what? (try 'help <foo>', or 'commands' for a command list) 20:04:19 <aleth> instant-buildbot: commands 20:04:20 <instant-buildbot> buildbot commands: commands, dance, destroy, excited, force, hello, help, last, list, mute, notify, source, status, stop, unmute, version, watch 20:04:25 <Mook_as> oh, there's a buildbot bot here? 20:04:29 <aleth> dance? 20:04:33 <Mook_as> instant-buildbot: status 20:04:33 <instant-buildbot> linux-nightly-default: idle, last build 16h29m44s ago: build successful 20:04:34 <instant-buildbot> linux-onCommit: idle, last build 101h11m10s ago: build successful 20:04:34 <instant-buildbot> macosx-nightly-default: offline 20:04:35 <instant-buildbot> macosx-onCommit: offline 20:04:35 <instant-buildbot> win32-nightly-default: idle, last build 14h44m27s ago: build successful 20:04:35 <instant-buildbot> win32-onCommit: idle, last build 188h21m13s ago: failed shell 20:04:47 <aleth> must be a new feature :) 20:04:50 <Mook_as> instant-buildbot: destroy aleth 20:04:50 <instant-buildbot> Something bad happened (see logs): <type 'exceptions.AttributeError'> 20:04:55 <aleth> heh 20:04:58 <Mook_as> haha 20:05:30 <clokep_work> instant-buildbot: dance 20:05:31 <instant-buildbot> <(^.^<) 20:05:32 <instant-buildbot> <(^.^)> 20:05:33 <Mook_as> buildbot ircbots... fun :D (it probably trigger builds, but let's not do that unless we have a good reason) 20:05:33 <instant-buildbot> (>^.^)> 20:05:33 <instant-buildbot> (7^.^)7 20:05:35 <instant-buildbot> (>^.^<) 20:05:51 <clokep_work> The only bad thing now is I can't type ins<tab> for instantbot. ;) 20:07:29 <-- instant-buildbot has quit (Ping timeout) 20:08:27 <clokep_work> Oops. :( 20:08:35 <deOmega1> haha, I am not very optimistic about my ability to make that addon. will assign some time to that curve 20:09:18 <aleth> deOmega1: you might find the MDN pages on JavaScript useful too 20:09:55 <deOmega1> aleth: MDN? 20:10:15 <deOmega1> ok found it 20:10:22 <deOmega1> googled it 20:10:30 <aleth> deOmega1: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/ 20:10:50 <deOmega1> thank you 20:11:37 <aleth> deOmega1: and of course https://wiki.instantbird.org/Instantbird:Creating_Extensions if you haven't seen it yet 20:11:37 <-- Even has quit (Ping timeout) 20:11:46 --> instant-buildbot has joined #instantbird 20:11:47 * ChanServ sets mode +v instant-buildbot 20:11:54 <deOmega1> ok, thank you again 20:14:55 --> Even has joined #instantbird 20:14:55 * ChanServ sets mode +o Even 20:16:14 <aleth> Is it just me or is this partially in Russian? https://developer.mozilla.org/en/JavaScript/Guide 20:19:04 <Mook_as> hah, it's something cyrillic at least 20:19:34 <aleth> Wonder which moz channel that should be mentioned in 20:20:32 <aleth> It doesn't seem to be a change listed in the page history 20:20:49 <Mook_as> #devmo I think? 20:21:31 <-- jb has quit (Ping timeout) 20:22:43 <aleth> OK 20:25:33 <-- instant-buildbot has quit (Ping timeout) 20:27:00 --> instant-buildbot has joined #instantbird 20:27:00 * ChanServ sets mode +v instant-buildbot 20:34:12 <-- myk has quit (Ping timeout) 20:43:37 --> flo has joined #instantbird 20:43:37 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo flo 20:44:31 --> mmkmou has joined #instantbird 20:53:35 --> jb has joined #instantbird 21:07:24 <-- jb has quit (Ping timeout) 21:09:26 --> jb has joined #instantbird 21:15:41 <-- Mook_as has quit (Ping timeout) 21:18:18 --> Mook_as has joined #instantbird 21:23:35 <-- Mook_as has quit (Ping timeout) 21:26:13 <-- jb has quit (Ping timeout) 21:26:14 <-- mmkmou has quit (Ping timeout) 21:26:56 --> mmkmou has joined #instantbird 21:30:08 <-- mmkmou has quit (Ping timeout) 21:31:26 <-- gerard-majax has quit (Ping timeout) 21:35:42 --> mmkmou has joined #instantbird 21:35:46 <-- mmkmou has quit (Connection reset by peer) 21:40:14 --> Guido has joined #instantbird 21:41:20 <-- clokep_work has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 21:56:44 <-- Gizmokid2005 has quit (Ping timeout) 21:58:09 --> Gizmokid2005 has joined #instantbird 22:03:24 --> jb has joined #instantbird 22:04:38 <-- mib_gqnl6n has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 22:04:50 --> sharysce has joined #instantbird 22:06:54 --> Mook_as has joined #instantbird 22:09:38 <-- Mook_as has quit (Ping timeout) 22:11:00 <deOmega1> in a previous discussion, I was told how to remove status messages in a message style 22:11:20 <deOmega1> this is the content of the message style i was am using 22:11:22 <deOmega1> http://pastebin.com/Tfbqm6tM 22:12:06 <deOmega1> these were the instructions: Just delete everything apart from the opening/closing div tags in Status.html and NextStatus.html 22:12:59 <deOmega1> the opening div tag i suppose would be line 2? 22:14:08 <-- jb has quit (Ping timeout) 22:14:12 <deOmega1> so i would delete everything inclusively, line 3-9 or lines 3-13 22:16:03 <aleth> Without knowing more, I guess I would try 1-12 or 2-11 22:16:14 <deOmega1> spent some time today trying to learn to create an extension. God Bless you guys. I have a pounding headache... jargon is really an incredible divider. 22:16:23 <aleth> Btw this file is HTML 22:17:01 <aleth> MDN also has a HTML section, but as webpages are in HTML, there are many introductions out there 22:17:05 <deOmega1> correct 22:17:27 <aleth> so for example https://developer.mozilla.org/en/HTML/Element/div 22:17:32 <deOmega1> on the html aspect 22:17:41 * Tobin is now known as BinaryOutcast 22:19:08 <aleth> What you have in that file are nested div tags (ie. a <div> ... </div> that itself contains divs...) 22:20:31 <deOmega1> aleth: Thank you very much again Ah, makes sense, because i did one before that was not this complicated 22:22:09 <deOmega1> I am using or working on this message style... https://addons.instantbird.org/en-US/instantbird/addon/29 22:22:26 <deOmega1> I lik eit a lot, because it actually dims read messages etc etc 22:22:40 <deOmega1> seems to do a lot that IB is designed to do. 22:22:43 <aleth> Ah, one of the autoconverted ones 22:23:10 <aleth> If you end up polishing it you can submit an improved version ;) 22:23:10 <deOmega1> I had to tweak it to make the avatars bigger... 22:23:49 <deOmega1> I actually thought of doing that, but would i need any special permission? 22:24:20 <aleth> Talk to Even when you are ready 22:24:36 <deOmega1> the only downside on this style, is that it does not have the users names anywhere in it 22:25:05 <aleth> I suspect if you want to delete status messages (rather than fold them) then you would have to make that optional (a variant) 22:25:30 <aleth> (if you wanted to submit it as an update of the style, that is) 22:25:36 <deOmega1> like in here, i have to know that you are speaking i have to doubleclick your name ha! but i do not use it for 22:25:41 <deOmega1> yeah, i woudl do it as a variant 22:26:09 <deOmega1> it is then not a very godo option for multiparty chat, but excellent in the regular 22:26:09 <aleth> A lot of the autoconverted styles do not support MUCs well as those have somewhat IB-specific features 22:26:35 <aleth> It would be great if you could improve the way it looks for MUCs 22:26:48 <aleth> Then ultimately it might lose the 'experimental' tag ;) 22:27:36 <deOmega1> that woud mean just allowing it to show the name of the participants. 22:27:58 <aleth> Maybe show them on hover? 22:28:03 <deOmega1> You never know, will keep working on it, becauseit is really my fav at the moment 22:28:06 <aleth> Or use the nick colours somehow? 22:28:30 <deOmega1> You really think very highly of me ha! 22:28:48 <aleth> Those are all things you can "look up" how to do by looking at other message styles 22:29:07 <deOmega1> I thought aboutthat for sure 22:29:24 <deOmega1> Will try and take my time on this 22:29:56 <deOmega1> but i hope that removing the things i did in that pastbin example i gave you, does not turn off aany features 22:30:06 <deOmega1> besides status changes 22:30:34 <aleth> Until you understand the code, you won't know for sure 22:31:50 <aleth> But generally speaking, Status.html is the html that is inserted in the conversation window html to display a status message, so it should not affect anything beyond that (if there are no errors in it at least) 22:32:00 <aleth> Message styles are mainly html and css, so it's not like you are learning anything that isn't useful for other things too... 22:34:09 <-- aleth has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2a1pre) 22:34:12 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 22:36:37 <deOmega1> thank you 22:40:56 <-- Guido has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.1) 22:45:03 --> jb has joined #instantbird 22:54:29 <-- sharysce has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 23:04:45 --> Mook_as has joined #instantbird 23:12:15 <-- jb has quit (Ping timeout) 23:13:07 <-- diogo has quit (Client exited) 23:16:38 <-- Mook_as has quit (Ping timeout) 23:17:53 --> Mook_as has joined #instantbird 23:20:16 <-- Mook_as has quit (Ping timeout) 23:29:55 --> jb has joined #instantbird 23:32:55 --> Tomek has joined #instantbird 23:33:01 <-- deOmega1 has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2a1pre) 23:33:18 --> deOmega1 has joined #instantbird 23:33:51 <-- Tomek has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.1) 23:34:10 --> Tomek has joined #instantbird 23:34:39 <-- deOmega1 has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2a1pre) 23:35:39 --> deOmega1 has joined #instantbird 23:39:06 <-- jb has quit (Ping timeout) 23:39:28 <-- Mnyromyr has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [SeaMonkey 1.1.19/2010030105]) 23:42:11 --> jb has joined #instantbird 23:45:58 --> Mook_as has joined #instantbird 23:49:11 <-- jb has quit (Ping timeout) 23:52:49 <deOmega1> hmm, not sure many would desire a message style that has no status change notifications :) 23:53:19 <deOmega1> BUt.. I have to admit I like it. Maybe i could implement the Time bubbles code :)