#instantbird log on 01 06 2012

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00:04:53 <clokep_> The progress bar works well. :)
00:05:31 <flo> :)
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00:10:35 <flo> Good night
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00:13:52 <Mic> It works well but it might look better if it were smaller. Like 5-7 pixels tall (remember the progress bar that they had on the tabs before Fx4?)
00:14:23 <Mic> In some nightlies before Fx4. Not in 3.* of course.
00:16:17 <clokep_> Could just put the progress bar on the tab? ;)
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00:28:58 <Mic> Good night.
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11:31:25 <clokep> Good day! :)
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17:11:59 <flo> I would really like to have a JS debugger.
17:13:26 <flo> I'm attempting to call a method, but there's no apparent result. I added a dump() before the call, it's printed. A dump inside the method, at the very first line, it's not printed (but other dumps in the same file do appear, so it's not an outdated cache issue). A dump after the call, it's printed (so it's not an exception thrown...).
17:14:09 <flo> putting a breakpoint just before the call and just stepping into once would be so much easier than attempting to guess what's happening :(
17:14:38 <clokep_work> flo++
17:15:53 <flo> I'm out of ideas
17:16:09 <flo> now I'm adding a dump(<method>.toSource() + "\n"); ...
17:16:53 <flo> and that prints the method including the dump. Hmm... :(
17:21:39 <clokep_work> Ah, yeah. I usually do that or dump(<method without a function call>), didn't realize it has a toSource(). :)
17:22:02 <clokep_work> Do you want to pastebin it and see if it's something silly?
17:22:14 <clokep_work> Probably not though. :(
17:24:18 <diogo> Hey guys, How could I translate instantbird?
17:25:16 <clokep_work> diogo: https://wiki.instantbird.org/Instantbird:Translation
17:25:20 <flo> my code is horribly full of stupid dump() calls, but anyway: http://pastebin.instantbird.com/6815 line 309.
17:25:27 <clokep_work> (Ask if you have any questions, but that should include a lot of the information.)
17:25:28 <clokep_work> What language? :)
17:25:36 <diogo> Pt-BR
17:25:55 <flo> and it's supposed to call http://mxr.mozilla.org/comm-central/source/mailnews/db/gloda/modules/gloda.js#1955
17:26:11 <flo> diogo: have you already emailed me to request a repository several weeks ago?
17:28:00 <flo> diogo: I'm asking because 2 people have proposed themselves to start this translation in the last few months, and I haven't replied yet because our localization infrastructure is currently in a sorry state :-/.
17:29:07 <clokep_work> flo: I don't think anything funny going on. :(
17:29:40 <diogo> Ok, I never did it fio
17:30:17 <flo> I've thought that maybe there was a function replacing the original dump that could be preventing it from appearing, but I tried to put there a Components.utils.reportError call instead and nothing appeared in the error console
17:30:26 <flo> (but the toSource dump shows that line...)
17:30:34 <flo> so I'm now pretty sure that method isn't actually called
17:30:43 <flo> but still no idea of why :-(
17:31:13 <flo> I hope I'm not wasting time on something that would just work on a newer version of mozilla/comm-central
17:31:21 <diogo> Translate tutorial is just for Windows Users?
17:32:04 <flo> diogo: ok :). You can still read the documentation on the wiki, and if you can form a team with the other volunteers that would be awesome :).
17:32:50 <flo> diogo: only the explanation about "how to use mercurial" are only for Windows users.
17:33:07 <flo> I think we assumed at the time that users of other OSes are confident with using the command line
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17:40:20 <flo> I was desperate enough to attempt to install venkman in Thunderbird and see if it would work, but as usual, it doesn't. It just crashed... :(
17:43:11 <flo> using   Gloda.grokNounItem.call(Gloda, instead of   Gloda.grokNounItem( doesn't help either :(
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17:48:34 <clokep_work> Have you tried asking in #maildev? Is Standard8 the Gloda guru?
17:50:41 <flo> not yet. I haven't figured out a way that makes sense to formulate the question.
17:51:50 <flo> I think the Gloda guru is Andrew Sutherland, and protz has some good knowledge of it too.
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17:53:57 <clokep_work> Ah, that does sound more familiar, yes. :)
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17:58:49 <flo> and if I call another method from Gloda. with bad parameter values, it correctly reports an error :-S
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18:01:17 <flo> and the dump I added in that method is printed before the error occurs, so I'm now sure the file doesn't mess with the dump default function
18:03:54 <zen_monkey> hi, am trying to log to icq on ver 1.1 but failing to use SSL, is there any known reasson for this?
18:05:07 <zen_monkey> using port 5190 (default on account creation on ib) i get an unable to connect to auth server but on port 443 i get a different error, something about BOS server
18:08:58 <flo> I have to go. I think I'll recompile with a newer Mozilla and try again to avoid wasting time if it's caused by an already fixed bug.
18:09:11 <flo> The issue seems very strange anyway.
18:09:20 <flo> maybe Mook_as will have an idea if he has time to read the log? :)
18:09:28 <flo> anyway, good evening! :)
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18:13:52 <Mook_as> flo: silly question: what's dump() in gloda.js's scope?
18:14:06 <Mook_as> oh, I need to read more of the log :p
18:15:59 <Mook_as> I suppose trying to use this._log there might help, since _somebody_ is already using it...
18:16:43 <Mook_as> ah! flo: that's a generator; calling it gives you something with a .next() doesn't it?
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18:49:39 <clokep_work> zen_monkey: I'm using the default settings and have been able to connect fine. :-/
18:49:46 <clokep_work> Maybe ICQ changed their ports again though. :(
18:51:58 <zen_monkey> clokep_work, hmm, am updating instant since pre 1.0, that can't affect this right?
18:52:22 <zen_monkey> where can i look on error output just in case it's usefull
18:53:09 <clokep_work> Tools > Error Console.
18:53:16 <clokep_work> I didn't follow that about updating, can you reword it?
19:01:19 <zen_monkey> i haven't started using IB on latest 1.1 but updating since i found it a couple of versions back
19:01:37 <zen_monkey> my guess is that it shouldn't be my worry
19:15:54 <clokep_work> You could try deleting and recreating the account, I know there was some funkiness with ICQ for a while.
19:15:56 <clokep_work> It might help.
19:16:40 <zen_monkey> i've just added it... and been reading about some issue on 0.2 or 0.3...
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19:18:58 <zen_monkey> how can i prevent ib from autoconnecting? not upon launch, that one already got it... :p 
19:19:41 <zen_monkey> i try to connect, it falis and runs again and again, can't get to the disconect button because it's not there
19:19:46 <clokep_work> There's a tick box in the account manager to stop autoconnecting.
19:19:59 <clokep_work> Oh, I'm not sure if you can stop that.
19:20:10 <clokep_work> It should go to "cancel reconnect" though.
19:21:03 <zen_monkey> i guess that will manage with waiting for it to get tired of trying
19:21:17 <zen_monkey> :s
19:21:48 <zen_monkey> ups, right click made it!
19:22:31 <clokep_work> Ah! OK.
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21:42:46 <flo> "<Mook_as> ah! flo: that's a generator; calling it gives you something with a .next() doesn't it?" I haven't tested, but that sounds right! Thank you very much! :)
21:43:06 <flo> bring in a competent developer and you've got your solution in no time ;)
21:44:50 <Mook_as> that's after the first wrong answer, right? ;)
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22:20:02 <flo> Mook_as: you still got a credible answer within 7 minutes for something I'd been struggling and getting upset with for at least an hour :)
22:20:20 <flo> I wonder if it's a case where a JS strict warning would be possible
22:20:36 <Mook_as> it's probably just a different set of eyes.
22:21:01 <flo> it seems my statement couldn't have any effect. Is this something the JS engine can detect?
22:21:01 <Mook_as> I guess creating a generator and _not_ assigning it to anything could be, yeah
22:21:13 <Mook_as> ask #jsapi ? :p
22:21:23 <flo> Mook_as: yeah, I think I would have found it tomorrow after getting some rest. I hope so at least!
22:21:46 <flo> maybe I should just file a bug. I've been lucky the last time I asked for a new JS warning :)
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