#instantbird log on 12 28 2011

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00:24:34 <flo> my crash was in the xml parser (http://crash-stats.instantbird.com/report/index/606a33dd-26e5-4346-9d11-7115a2111227) :(
00:27:54 <flo> I guess I can hope it's fixed by https://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/c6d39182a867, although  I don't really believe it (the stack trace isn't exactly the same)
00:28:03 <clokep> flo: Your last crash was 56 days ago?!
00:28:23 <flo> yes, less than 2 months ago :(
00:28:26 <flo> too much crashing...
00:28:42 <clokep> I've been crashing every shut down. :(
00:29:24 <flo> but you are the only one doing that ;)
00:29:41 <clokep> Yes....
00:30:01 <clokep> If I just start up and shutdown a lot I'll make it the top crasher? :P
00:30:51 <flo> what's your favorite stack?
00:30:59 <clokep> http://crash-stats.instantbird.com/report/index/6ac74e0c-e7aa-44a1-a21c-f3bc02111227 seems to work.
00:34:58 <flo> that's on shutdown?
00:35:59 <clokep> I believe so.
00:36:22 <clokep> Yup, that's my latest crash, which is when I close Instantbird out.
00:37:34 <flo> I don't see a good reason for calling purpleAccountBuddy::GetCanSendMessage during shutdown
00:38:30 <clokep> Me neither. :-/
00:38:56 <flo> it would be really helpful to know the JS stack
00:39:08 <clokep> Is there a way I can get that?
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00:40:04 <flo> if you can reproduce in a debug build in gdb, you just need to execute |call DumpJSStack()|
00:41:56 <clokep> I'll see if it crashes in my debug build first and then take it from there
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00:43:34 <flo> apparently in Visual studio you need to evaluate |{,,xul}DumpJSStack()| in the QuickWatch window
00:43:52 <flo> that's what https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Debugging_Mozilla_on_Windows_FAQ#Debugging_JavaScript (which seems largely outdated) says at least
00:44:11 <clokep> Hmm...OK. :-/ If I can't figure it out, maybe Mook would know?
00:45:32 <flo> I haven't used the visual studio GUI in a long while... In what I remember, it was pretty good and straightforward when it worked, which is usually the case for win32 applications, and was exceptionally rare for WinCE applications :(
00:46:19 <clokep> Good to know! :) I have very little idea how to use Visual Studio, every time I have to use it is a struggle.
00:47:49 * flo goes to bed
00:47:53 <flo> Good evening/night
00:48:05 <clokep> Goodnight!
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10:02:50 <aleth> Merry Xmas :)
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10:12:00 <aleth> New error message on startup:  |Failed to load native module at path '/instantbird/components/libmozgnome.so': (80004005) libORBit-2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory|
10:13:02 <aleth> Then, after startup, |Error: uncaught exception: [Exception... "'[JavaScript Error: "this.target is undefined" {file: "jar:file:///instantbird/omni.jar!/components/imConversations.js" line: 281}]' when calling method: [imIConversation::account]"  nsresult: "0x80570021 (NS_ERROR_XPC_JAVASCRIPT_ERROR_WITH_DETAILS)"  location: "JS frame :: chrome://instantbird/content/conversation.xml :: <TOP_LEVEL> :: line 612"  data: yes]|
10:13:09 <aleth> (multiple times)
10:13:18 <aleth> are these known already?
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10:59:17 <flo> aleth: hello
10:59:27 <flo> aleth: the first message is just a file that doesn't exist on your system
11:00:14 <flo> and if you have the second message with the latest nightly and have steps to reproduce, please file a bug. I thought I fixed that :-/
11:03:10 <aleth> Steps to reproduce are 1) start IB ;)
11:03:23 <aleth> But I'll file a bug
11:17:05 <flo> that's not useful steps to reproduce :-P
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12:36:47 <instantbot> New purplexpcom - General bug 1214 filed by aletheia2@fastmail.fm.
12:36:51 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1214 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, this.target is undefined (IRC DMs)
12:37:16 <aleth> Narrowed it down a little
12:48:25 <instantbot> New purplexpcom - Twitter bug 1215 filed by aletheia2@fastmail.fm.
12:48:27 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1215 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Error on receiving a twitter message
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17:19:26 <rothaut> guten Abend miteinander!
17:20:43 <rothaut> Ich bin grad dabei, Instant Bird mit Screnreader zu testen. also mit einem bildschirmausleseprogramm, das Nichtsehende statt Monitor und Maus verwenden, könnte man kurz sagen.
17:21:03 <clokep> I'm not sure if anyone speaks German that is here right now. :( Do you speak English?
17:21:35 <clokep> Google Translate really doesn't work well. :-D
17:21:49 <rothaut> I am afraid, my english is not very good.
17:22:02 <rothaut> But I will try ;)
17:22:14 <clokep> It's better than my German. :)
17:22:30 <clokep> So you're testing Instantbird with a screen reader?
17:22:58 <rothaut> yes, that is correct.
17:24:03 <rothaut> I have installed it and I have installed my acounts, of ICQ, Facebook, MSn, but now only facebook is active.
17:24:54 <rothaut> Here i am working with mirc, for it works very well with my screnreader, and I will figure out, how I can make instant Bird working well with my screenreader.
17:25:30 <clokep> Which screenreader software are you using by the way?
17:25:55 <clokep> We've heard that Instantbird works fairly well with screen readers, but parts of it need some work.
17:26:14 <rothaut> But I am afraid the first thing I need to know is, how can I go to about:config for I have to change saome values there, so that my screenreader has a chance to work.
17:26:45 <clokep> It's in the same place as it is in Firefox Tools > Options> Advanced Tab > Config Editor...
17:30:12 <rothaut> I looked for it there, but in tools options in the german version in advanced, I only have two tabs, Network and update. and 
17:30:14 <rothaut> :(
17:30:35 <clokep> There should be a general tab. :-/
17:30:46 <clokep> (Or whatever that is in German, obviously.)
17:31:22 <rothaut> It should say "allgemein", but I cannot discover it.
17:32:08 <rothaut> I am afraid, it gets no focus, and with the navigation I just can work, when I have changed the values in About config :(
17:33:04 <clokep> :-/ I'm not sure.
17:33:17 <clokep> You could also open it from the error console.
17:33:31 <aleth> The 'simple' message style has some extra tags for screen readers afaik
17:34:05 <rothaut> I have it *juhuuu*. the cursor refused it, but you said, it is there, so I put the Cursor one Tab left, were it shoed nothing before, and now it is there, thank you very much.
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17:34:24 <rothaut> The first step would be done soon thank you so much.
17:34:52 <clokep> rothaut: Great, glad you got it to work. :( It'd be wonderful to know what the issue is.
17:36:28 <rothaut> But perhaps can you tell me, if there is perhaps any add-on or any plugin, that can make the Screenreader or something lese to read the jessage, or to tell me that a message is there Sounds I have enabled but it would be nice to know from whom the message is.b
17:37:29 <clokep> I don't know any add-ons, as aleth suggested using the "Simple" message style might work better though.
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17:38:50 <rothaut> Hmm, is that not the default setting?
17:40:18 <clokep> No, the default message style is Bubbles.
17:41:40 <rothaut> Ok thank you vory much for that tipp, I will try at once afte I had changed about config. And then I will tell you, what vallues I have changed. Perhaps when it works, it can be helpfull for someone else.
17:42:13 <clokep> Yes, that'd be great, thank you!
17:50:20 <rothaut> I have copied now the Text from the GWmicro Knoledge-Base.
17:50:24 <rothaut> And it says:
17:50:25 <rothaut> 6.  In the filter Edit Box type "direct2d.disabled".
17:50:25 <rothaut> 7.  Press Tab to get to the list of filtered entries and you should see one called
17:50:25 <rothaut> "gfx.direct2d.disabled" with a default value of False.
17:50:25 <rothaut> 8.  Press Enter to toggle this value to True.
17:50:25 <rothaut> 9.  Press Shift-Tab to get back to the filter Edit Box and type "layers.acceleration.disabled".
17:50:25 <rothaut> 10.  Press Tab to get to the list of filtered entries and you should see one called
17:50:25 <rothaut> "layers.acceleration.disabled" with a default value of False.
17:50:26 <rothaut> 11.  Press Enter to toggle this value to True.
17:51:08 <rothaut> And now the Navigation works really.
17:51:33 <rothaut> But the Message stiyle is on simply, but I can see no difference.
17:57:58 <rothaut> 7.  Press Tab to get to the list of filtered entries and you should see one called
17:57:58 <rothaut> "gfx.direct2d.disabled" with a default value of False.
17:57:58 <rothaut> 8.  Press Enter to toggle this value to True.
17:57:58 <rothaut> 9.  Press Shift-Tab to get back to the filter Edit Box and type "layers.acceleration.disabled".
17:57:58 <rothaut> 10.  Press Tab to get to the list of filtered entries and you should see one called
17:57:58 <rothaut> "layers.acceleration.disabled" with a default value of False.
17:57:58 <rothaut> 11.  Press Enter to toggle this value to True.
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17:58:27 <rothaut> Sorry that was the wrong window.
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22:43:05 * flo has setup synergy between his linux box and his macbook.
22:43:33 <flo> it's so nice to no longer have to lean forward to reach the linux box's keyboard :)
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