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00:04:57 <-- Tomek has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.1) 00:36:15 --> BlueMaxima has joined #instantbird 00:36:43 <-- aleth has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2a1pre) 01:39:14 <-- Mook_as has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.87-rdmsoft [XULRunner 1.9.2.13/20101203074205]) 01:41:04 --> Plop has joined #instantbird 02:40:29 --> skeledrew has joined #instantbird 02:42:49 <-- Plop has quit (Ping timeout) 03:02:38 --> Mook has joined #instantbird 03:04:44 <-- BlueMaxima has quit (Ping timeout) 03:05:27 --> BlueMaxima has joined #instantbird 03:20:29 <clokep> :) I have whois w/ tooltips working for JS-IRC now! 03:22:30 <Mook> \o/ 03:36:03 <clokep> Not quite ready for a new patch yet though. ;) 03:36:32 <clokep> But I didn't figure out how to write a Macro in Komodo! So I can slowly stop using websites to do things... 03:43:05 <-- clokep has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2a1pre) 03:52:52 <-- skeledrew has quit (Connection reset by peer) 03:53:09 --> skeledrew has joined #instantbird 03:54:10 <-- skeledrew has quit (Connection reset by peer) 03:54:32 --> skeledrew has joined #instantbird 03:56:18 <-- skeledrew has quit (Ping timeout) 04:38:55 <-- EionRobb has quit (Connection reset by peer) 04:45:57 <-- Mook has quit (Ping timeout) 04:46:51 --> Mook has joined #instantbird 05:01:53 <-- Mook has quit (Ping timeout) 05:03:09 --> Mook has joined #instantbird 05:49:54 <-- Mook has quit (Ping timeout) 05:51:16 --> Mook has joined #instantbird 07:13:00 <-- Mook has quit (Ping timeout) 07:15:17 --> Mook has joined #instantbird 07:38:09 --> jb has joined #instantbird 08:02:14 <-- lewellyn has quit (Ping timeout) 08:03:28 --> lewellyn has joined #instantbird 08:31:27 <-- Mook has quit (Ping timeout) 08:33:15 --> Mook has joined #instantbird 08:46:23 <-- gerard-majax has quit (Ping timeout) 08:51:15 <-- Mook has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.87-rdmsoft [XULRunner 6.0/20110811165603]) 09:29:19 --> gerard-majax has joined #instantbird 09:47:58 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 09:58:26 --> flo has joined #instantbird 09:58:26 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo flo 11:13:55 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 11:13:55 * ChanServ sets mode +h clokep 11:15:02 <flo> clokep: hello :) 11:15:43 <clokep> Hello flo. 11:19:13 <flo> clokep: what's blocking you in bug 1199? 11:19:22 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1199 enh, --, ---, clokep, ASSI, Only notify prplIAccounts of status changes when enabled 11:20:02 <clokep> flo: I'm just confused at where to go next with it. I think I just don't fully understand the interaction of the objects and where notifications, etc. are coming from. 11:22:58 <flo> do you want some explanations (ask specific questions then ;)) or is it something I should take over? 11:24:14 <clokep> http://pastebin.instantbird.com/3145 is what I have right now that doesn't work. 11:24:37 <clokep> I think I'd rather you take it over to get it done in a reasonable time (I'm away on business next week). 11:25:55 <flo> didn't you have .connect and .disconnect calls in your previous iteration? Where are these gone? 11:27:50 --> Tomek has joined #instantbird 11:30:00 <clokep> I did, I thought got confused at whether those needed to be part of the _statusobserver.observe method or whether they should be in the connect/disconnect methods of the imAccounts object and apparently never added them back in. 11:30:19 <flo> you may want to check that _statusObserver isn't null before attempting to remove/delete it 11:35:09 <clokep> Alright. 11:36:01 <clokep> And where would the actual calls to connect/disconnect go now? 11:42:55 --> mmkmou has joined #instantbird 11:50:34 <-- mmkmou has quit (Ping timeout) 11:55:18 <clokep> Got to go. bye! 11:55:24 <-- clokep has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2a1pre) 12:06:41 --> mmkmou has joined #instantbird 12:15:17 <flo> clokep: they would still be in the observer, like in your previous patch 12:33:29 <-- Tomek has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.1) 12:54:57 <flo> I'm always surprised that it takes only a few tweets to move from "testing instantbird for twitter.. #twiter somehow it works.. [random frustration] :(" to "@fqueze I love #instantbird" :) 13:25:01 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 13:25:01 * ChanServ sets mode +h Mic 13:25:10 <Mic> Hello. 13:26:09 <flo> Mic: good afternoon :) 13:39:47 <-- Mic has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2a1pre) 13:40:07 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 13:40:07 * ChanServ sets mode +h Mic 13:43:06 <-- Mic has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2a1pre) 14:01:23 * flo removes 20+ IM accounts from his Thunderbird profile 14:11:42 <flo> heh, mozilla-inbound is open :) 14:44:05 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 14:44:05 * ChanServ sets mode +h Mic 14:55:08 <-- Mic has quit (Connection reset by peer) 15:05:40 --> ecaron has joined #instantbird 15:14:42 --> hunsly has joined #instantbird 15:15:30 --> ecaron1 has joined #instantbird 15:16:49 <-- ecaron has quit (Ping timeout) 15:31:33 <-- BlueMaxima has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.1) 15:31:46 --> Mad_Maks has joined #instantbird 16:02:03 <-- mmkmou has quit (Ping timeout) 16:08:43 <-- Mad_Maks has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2a1pre) 16:17:59 --> mmkmou has joined #instantbird 16:26:30 <-- mmkmou has left #instantbird () 16:58:21 <instantbot> florian@instantbird.org requested review from clokep@gmail.com for attachment 1084 on bug 759. 16:58:23 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=759 min, --, ---, florian, ASSI, Reorganize purplexpcom 17:11:24 <-- gerard-majax has quit (Ping timeout) 17:25:45 --> Tomek has joined #instantbird 17:25:58 --> clokep_work has joined #instantbird 17:25:58 * ChanServ sets mode +h clokep_work 17:28:52 <clokep_work> You know when I filled bug 759, I had no idea it was going to be *THE* bug for Instantbird 1.2. :P 17:28:56 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=759 min, --, ---, florian, ASSI, Reorganize purplexpcom 17:48:08 <-- micahg has quit (Ping timeout) 17:57:33 <flo> clokep_work: heh :) 17:57:53 <flo> clokep_work: do you remember if we have an easy way to reproduce the bug that prevents startup if there's an error in a jsm import? 17:58:21 <flo> there's someone currently working on https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=463122 17:58:40 <flo> so if we have a similar bug, now would be a nice time to raise some attention to it 18:01:35 --> Mook_as has joined #instantbird 18:03:49 --> micahg has joined #instantbird 18:17:48 --> clokep_wp7 has joined #instantbird 18:17:52 --> ecaron has joined #instantbird 18:18:05 <-- ecaron1 has quit (Ping timeout) 18:18:54 <clokep_wp7> flo, import a file that doesn't exist or make asyntax error in tge file i think 18:19:42 <clokep_wp7> Exactly though? I'd have to try stuff out. 18:21:04 <-- clokep_wp7 has quit (Broken pipe) 18:21:25 <flo> would be ideal if we could produce a reduced testcase... soon :) 18:21:39 <flo> I'm trying to find more information about https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=700421 18:29:57 <-- jb has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2a1pre) 18:37:28 <-- flo has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2a1pre) 18:42:07 --> DGMurdockIII has joined #instantbird 18:57:36 <-- aleth has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2a1pre) 19:21:52 --> Even has joined #instantbird 19:21:53 * ChanServ sets mode +o Even 19:40:17 --> BlueMaxima has joined #instantbird 19:43:36 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 19:51:55 --> EionRobb has joined #instantbird 19:54:48 <-- EionRobb has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 19:58:34 --> EionRobb has joined #instantbird 20:08:27 --> bp has joined #instantbird 20:08:27 * ChanServ sets mode +h bp 20:15:27 --> flo has joined #instantbird 20:15:27 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo flo 20:19:04 <bp> hmm, nice :) Customizable keys in Komodo Edit. I like it already ;) 20:22:09 <-- ecaron has quit (Ping timeout) 20:22:14 --> ecaron has joined #instantbird 20:27:47 * aleth wonders if bp's prettified drop target is going to land soon 20:29:31 <flo> have you seen https://twitter.com/#!/stpeter/status/147378381204365312 ? 20:30:44 <BlueMaxima> Aw, for a minute there I thought the real St Peter had a twitter account :P 20:30:49 <flo> stpeter = Peter Saint-Andre 20:31:47 <aleth> Is that the Jabber guy? 20:31:58 <flo> Executive Director of the XMPP Software Foundation 20:32:22 <aleth> Shame DNS-SRV isn't ready, or JS-XMPP might get a right work-out ;) 20:32:41 * flo will ask for feedback 20:37:46 <bp> aleth: good idea 20:38:16 <bp> This time, at least, I attached a WIP to a bug. Seems I'm able to learn from past mistakes :P 20:39:47 <bp> The main css file of the Bubbles theme is full of discouraged ways of creating rules (according to this "writing efficient css" doc on MDN atleast) :( 20:40:38 <aleth> flo: https://twitter.com/#!/stpeter/status/147396398290186240 ;) 20:40:41 <bp> I think I'll fix that when I try to add user icons 20:41:06 <flo> aleth: I saw that too 20:41:33 <flo> although not in Instantbird, as he typoed Instan*d*bird 20:42:27 <aleth> bp: I had the same impression :( Though other message styles are worse 20:42:55 <aleth> There might be reasons for it of course 20:44:50 * flo wonders what you are talking about 20:45:53 <aleth> The efficiency of the message style CSS 20:46:42 <flo> bp: oh, you are planning to add user icons in Bubbles? :) 20:49:05 --> Mnyromyr has joined #instantbird 20:49:36 <flo> hmm, I wonder if cleaning up the Bubbles css would save us a noticeable amount of time when restoring large conversations on hold 20:49:52 <flo> that would be a cheap win :) 20:50:23 <flo> I would be very surprised though 20:51:07 <BlueMaxima> Meh, take what wins you get 20:52:34 <bp> Concerning themes and accessibility: what about adding the aria-attributes to all the themes we ship (or to Bubbles at leastas it is the default theme)? 20:53:33 <bp> Or create another one, explicitly labelled as "Accessible theme" in the options, so people know which one to use? 20:53:45 <flo> BlueMaxima: I would take the readability win anyway ;). 20:55:29 <flo> bp: I think I commented in that bug that we could either add the accessibility attributes automatically on the message <span> tag in imThemes.jsm so that all themes automatically have it, or decide that blind users are unlikely to change the theme they use, and just add the tags in the default theme 20:55:53 --> mmkmou has joined #instantbird 20:56:14 <bp> Oh, we have a bug about this already? 20:56:29 <-- mmkmou has left #instantbird () 20:56:47 <aleth> Currently only Simple has aria tags 20:56:47 <flo> hmm, it's possible that was just comments in the old resolved bug 20:57:51 <flo> bah, I can't find my comment :( 20:57:55 <flo> maybe I said that on IRC instead 20:58:20 <flo> it was definitely reported at https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=103#c3 20:58:24 <instantbot> Bug 103 tri, --, 0.1.3, pvdeejay, RESO FIXED, Use WAI-ARIA live regions while displaying incoming messages 20:58:42 <bp> bug 103 20:58:51 <bp> Ah :) 20:58:58 --> gerard-majax has joined #instantbird 20:59:07 <Tomek> flo: is the "restoring large conversations on hold" problem taking place also with other msg styles than bubbles? (I'm using the dark one from defaults, but I don't have conversations large enough to see any significant delay) 20:59:45 <flo> Tomek: it's happening even with Simple 20:59:57 <Tomek> Oh :( 21:00:00 <flo> but the delay is longer with Bubbles 21:00:13 <aleth> That fix (103) actually isn't in the message style 21:00:23 <DGMurdockIII> when will you guy add the abality to block people on instantbird 21:00:29 <flo> aleth: there was no message styles at the time 21:00:45 <aleth> flo: ah, ok:) 21:01:04 <flo> yeah, it's an old bug ;) 21:01:11 <bp> Adding it to all new messages independently from the theme sounds better in my opinion. 21:01:39 <DGMurdockIII> that the only feature I could use now that im getting more and more spam 21:01:39 <bp> If that means that we're accessible no matter what the user does to his message style themes, of course. 21:01:55 <bp> http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/file/8d564c726cfb/instantbird/themes/messages/bubbles/main.css#l111 21:01:58 <bp> :( 21:02:00 <flo> what happened to my nospam add-on? 21:03:05 <flo> bp: the worse thing about that rule is probably that *I* wrote it :( 21:03:10 <bp> Maybe it'sstill experimental and nobody is finding it because of that? :P 21:03:44 <flo> or maybe I never wrote the configuration UI because I wasn't interested in that part :-S 21:03:51 --> stpeter has joined #instantbird 21:04:01 <flo> that add-on would probably help for DGMurdockIII's problem 21:04:19 <flo> stpeter: hello :) 21:04:36 <stpeter> hey guys, I've added Instantbird to http://xmpp.org/xmpp-software/clients/ 21:04:41 <stpeter> and I've been testing it out 21:04:52 <stpeter> it passed the "stpeter roster test" with flying colors :) 21:05:00 <stpeter> good work! 21:05:05 <flo> thanks! :) 21:05:37 <flo> is it mostly a performance test? 21:05:53 <stpeter> I have ~2700 people in my roster 21:05:58 <bp> :O 21:06:00 <stpeter> some clients crash on trying to load it 21:06:13 <stpeter> s/roster/buddy list/ for you AIM types :) 21:06:21 <stpeter> crash, hang, etc. 21:06:21 <flo> I think large rosters are frequent on Facebook 21:06:27 <stpeter> probably 21:06:39 * stpeter shudders at the mention of Facebook :) 21:06:47 <bp> flo: is nospam the "do not disturb" add-on? 21:06:50 <flo> we connect to it through XMPP though ;) 21:06:54 <aleth> bp: no 21:06:54 <flo> bp: no 21:07:21 <bp> I can find it neither in your add-on list not in the add-ons repository. 21:07:26 <DGMurdockIII> can find the nospam addon 21:07:38 <DGMurdockIII> can't find the nospam addon 21:07:48 <stpeter> will some of you be at FOSDEM? 21:07:54 <flo> stpeter: have you received my tweet? I mentioned that we have implemented XMPP in JavaScript recently for more extensibility 21:08:11 <flo> stpeter: I'm at FOSDEM every year, I gave an Instantbird talk last year. 21:08:30 <stpeter> sorry, maybe I don't remember :| 21:08:43 <stpeter> flo: probably I did receive your tweet, I've been on the phone a lot today 21:09:22 <flo> stpeter: we met (briefly) two years ago I think. I stayed an additional day to attend the XMPP summit ;). 21:09:37 <stpeter> aha, yes, received 21:09:46 <stpeter> on the phone again, brb 21:10:49 <DGMurdockIII> Error: Corrupted database: duplicated account_buddy entry: account_id = 4, buddy_id = 273, tag_id = 3 21:10:49 <DGMurdockIII> Source File: jar:file:///C:/Program%20Files%20(x86)/Instantbird/omni.jar!/components/imContacts.js 21:10:49 <DGMurdockIII> Line: 1247 21:11:27 <DGMurdockIII> http://pastebin.instantbird.com/3205 21:18:58 <flo> bp: http://pastebin.instantbird.com/3206 21:22:23 <bp> Thanks, but I don't need it for myself. I only wanted to point DGMurdockIII to it (and I think he can't do anything with that;) 21:22:33 <bp> I can't even make it an xpi here :( 21:22:50 <flo> bp: anyway, the important part is "//TODO check if we prevent spam from this protocol/account." 21:23:59 <DGMurdockIII> 2(flo2): cant find the nospam addon 21:25:18 <flo> DGMurdockIII: it's not finished. The work-in-progress code is in my pastebin. 21:26:48 <aleth> I suppose you could push v 0.1 which blocks spam from all accounts ;) 21:27:34 <bp> And version 2.0 is going to let through acceptable spam one day? ;) 21:28:03 <aleth> heh ;) 21:28:05 <DGMurdockIII> flo you shold realese it to for people who want to help you test it 21:28:26 <flo> aleth: I guess I won't work on it until I get more AIM spammers. They've been quiet these days. About one or two messages a month 21:28:37 <flo> at the time I started working on the add-on, it was several a day 21:29:23 <flo> DGMurdockIII: that's what I've just done. I released the code because at this stage people who could help are those who can understand the code. 21:29:40 <aleth> I have never seen IM spam(apart from on twitter), but I am not on AIM either 21:29:53 <flo> I can't remember when was the last time I received an *useful* message from AIM though. 21:30:06 <DGMurdockIII> ok 21:30:10 <flo> if I wasn't working on Instantbird, the obvious solution would be to just not connect to AIM anymore. 21:31:41 <flo> all my AIM contacts who don't live in the US don't connect their AIM accounts any more anyway 21:32:23 <Mook_as> odd, I find that instantbird (and multi-protocol clients in general) make me connect to more networks 21:32:38 <Mook_as> I don't know why I'm still on ICQ. but I connect to it, everyday... 21:33:16 <flo> Mook_as: same for yahoo I guess. 21:33:33 <flo> I connect to it everyday, but I've never had a single yahoo contact :-D. 21:33:43 <Mook_as> haha 21:34:03 <flo> (just another test account of someone else testing Instantbird at some point) 21:34:33 <flo> so I've probably had a total of 2 conversations through yahoo, with only test messages. 21:35:06 * Mook_as is pretty sure he had more spam over the last year on ICQ than all other messages 21:37:01 <flo> all my real conversations happen on Google Talk, Facebook Chat (boo :() or IRC. I could forget all other accounts if I didn't want to be informed quickly if they can't connect any more. 21:37:29 <instantbot> aletheia2@fastmail.fm requested review from florian@instantbird .org for attachment 907 on bug 1074. 21:37:31 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1074 nor, --, ---, aletheia2, ASSI, Default message styles lack context message support and override font choice 21:38:07 <aleth> Seems I forgot to r? over 2 months ago :( 21:39:41 <aleth> flo: It's kind of sad that everyone uses XMPP, but only via fb/google 21:40:25 <EionRobb> at least they use xmpp 21:41:32 <flo> I'm not sure of that. I suspect if they contact me through facebook they are likely using the web UI :(. 21:42:53 <aleth> True for Gtalk too I suppose. 21:44:56 <flo> people talking to me through gtalk often use Instantbird/Adium/Pidgin 22:00:14 <flo> clokep_work: I've tried to reproduce our Cu.import bug that prevented startup by importing non existent js modules, but I couldn't reproduce. 22:01:08 <bp> Another WP-programmer, great .. 22:01:56 <bp> .. I've read on Twitter that there seems to be a Google Chrome-extension that adds Jimmy Wales to every webpage, btw :D 22:02:04 <EionRobb> awesome 22:06:06 --> ecaron1 has joined #instantbird 22:06:42 <-- ecaron has quit (Ping timeout) 22:07:34 * flo first read WP as WordPress and wondered what you were talking about 22:07:48 <-- ecaron1 has quit (Ping timeout) 22:08:46 <EionRobb> ditto 22:09:37 <-- Even has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2a1pre) 22:15:39 <bp> Good night 22:16:24 <-- bp has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2a1pre) 22:22:29 <Mook_as> wait, it _isn't_ wordpress? 22:22:48 <flo> WikiPedia 22:22:56 <Mook_as> ah 22:23:18 <flo> or maybe WikiMedia + typo :-S 22:23:57 <aleth> I guess you didn 22:24:03 <aleth> t look it up on wikipedia ;) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP 22:25:17 <flo> ahah 22:27:02 <aleth> https://github.com/liveservices/LiveSDK/tree/master/Samples/XMPP-Samples 22:27:08 <aleth> http://windowsteamblog.com/windows_live/b/windowslive/archive/2011/12/14/anyone-can-build-a-windows-live-messenger-client-with-open-standards-access-via-xmpp.aspx 22:27:11 <aleth> ! 22:29:34 <aleth> Is this new or just more official? 22:29:43 <flo> what's new in that announcement compared to what we already knew in september when bug 1033 was filed? 22:29:49 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1033 nor, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, Implement Microsoft Live XMPP 22:30:05 <-- Tomek has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.1) 22:30:37 <aleth> flo: I don't know. I only just spotted it by accident 22:31:45 <aleth> "Roster management is not supported." is probably the most pertinent lack 22:32:07 --> ecaron has joined #instantbird 22:32:09 <aleth> I was surprised Microsoft had code on github... 22:33:19 <Mook_as> meh, I realized today that msdn blog comments (specifically, oldnewthing) needed to pull script from googleapis.com... 22:33:20 --> ecaron1 has joined #instantbird 22:33:51 <-- BlueMaxima has quit (Ping timeout) 22:33:51 <-- ecaron has quit (Ping timeout) 22:35:07 <EionRobb> is roster management supported via any api? 22:36:51 <-- clokep_work has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 22:37:12 <flo> maybe through a REST API, but I haven't read the doc of their REST API yet 22:37:50 <Novarg> I think somebody here said I could debug the facebook chat connection over xmpp, is that right? 22:37:57 <Novarg> I wonder if there's something I can do to fix it 22:40:08 <flo> Novarg: are you the reporter of bug 1203? 22:40:11 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1203 maj, --, ---, florian, ASSI, No longer able to log into Facebook Chat via Instantbird since patches enabling JS XMPP 22:41:25 <Novarg> flo: no 22:41:34 <Novarg> I can log in and receive messages, I just can't send 22:42:02 <flo> ah, right 22:42:51 <flo> I posted in that bug the instructions to enable logging to the error console of all the data exchanged through the XMPP connection, so hopefully you will be able to see what we send and what the server replies (if anything) 22:43:18 <Novarg> ok let me try that 22:46:01 <Novarg> so it issues a <message> with my text in it, then it does onTransportStatus(STATUS_SENDING_TO) 22:46:05 <Novarg> does it miss anything? 22:46:28 <flo> pastebin the relevant parts, instead of trying to describe them ;) 22:47:55 <Novarg> http://privatepaste.com/658d00fe84 22:51:39 <Novarg> that's what I send and all I get in reaction 22:53:43 <-- stpeter has quit (Quit: leaving) 22:56:18 --> BlueMaxima has joined #instantbird 22:57:22 <Novarg> can it just absorb my message? 22:58:28 <flo> both of these messages are what you send (the first is a typing notification, the second is the actual message) 22:58:57 <Novarg> I thought so, but they never reach their target 22:59:10 <Novarg> but I guess that's not under instantbird's control then :) 22:59:12 <flo> do you receive an error message after that? 22:59:15 <Novarg> no 22:59:15 <flo> or a strange message? 22:59:17 <Novarg> nothing 22:59:28 <flo> probably facebook's brokenness then 22:59:41 <Novarg> I'm wondering how it works for some people 22:59:45 <Novarg> why doesn't it for me :) 23:00:54 <EionRobb> magic 23:01:18 <Novarg> but it supports me on my quest to get people away from the facebook chat 23:01:40 <flo> not really if you can't send them messages to tell them that ;) 23:01:52 <Novarg> I'm chatting through the web ui now 23:02:01 <Novarg> but that's highly uncomfortable 23:28:22 <DGMurdockIII> http://www.theverge.com/2011/12/15/2637835/windows-live-messenger-xmpp-protocol 23:28:49 <DGMurdockIII> http://windowsteamblog.com/windows_live/b/windowslive/archive/2011/12/14/anyone-can-build-a-windows-live-messenger-client-with-open-standards-access-via-xmpp.aspx 23:30:53 <flo> DGMurdockIII: you are obviously ignoring the links that have been posted here 2 hours ago (otherwise you would have noticed that it's the same as what you just pasted), so why do you expect others to pay attention to your links? 23:31:23 <DGMurdockIII> yeah i just saw it after i posted it 23:32:09 <flo> which confirms that you didn't look before... 23:32:25 <DGMurdockIII> my mistake 23:42:07 <-- Mnyromyr has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [SeaMonkey 1.1.19/2010030105])