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00:01:28 <flo> just found a bug in the account wizard 00:01:55 <flo> when I create an AIM account, if I open the "AIM advanced options" pane, then on the summary I have "Allow multple simul... false" 00:02:10 <flo> I don't have it if I don't open the advanced options pane before clicking next 00:02:59 <clokep> I don't like the way advanced settings in done in there in general personally. :) 00:03:50 <flo> I agree, I don't like that in general either, but more specifically, I don't like that it's currently broken ;) 00:04:00 <flo> I've verified in my current nightly that it's not a bug from my current set of changes 00:06:20 <aleth> Wasn't Mic redesigning that wizard anyway? 00:06:43 <clokep> I think he was playing w/ some of it. Although he was actually playing with the selecting account part perhaps. 00:10:25 <flo> I think I'll soon attach a WIP that can very well pretend to work 00:10:28 <flo> and then go to bed 00:10:35 <flo> anybody willing to review? :-P 00:10:41 <clokep> "attach" do we have a bug for this? :P 00:10:54 <flo> it's the reorganize purplexpcom bug 00:10:55 * clokep wonders if this will also close Mook_as' open bug. ;) 00:10:58 <clokep> Ah, right. 00:11:08 <clokep> Which became "reorganize the world"? 00:11:21 <Mook_as> "break the world" 00:11:32 <Mook_as> (and _maybe_ put the pieces back together. maybe.) 00:13:25 <flo> why do I keep finding just one little more bug each time I think I'm done? :-/ 00:14:23 <flo> I'm also finding bugs that probably already existed 00:14:50 <flo> as my current build reports exceptions (with my printf calls in the JS engine) that are usually not visible 00:14:59 <flo> for example: 00:15:01 <flo> exception: '[JavaScript Error: "elt is null" {file: "chrome://instantbird/content/accounts.js" line: 215}]' when calling method: [nsIObserver::observe] 00:15:06 <aleth> skeletons in cupboards 00:15:06 <flo> when deleting a connected account. 00:16:11 <-- Tomek has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.1) 00:16:35 <aleth> sounds like it will all be a lot cleaner and easier to understand afterwards :) 00:17:23 <flo> I hope so :) 00:17:37 <flo> but it probably won't take us long to find more areas that need a cleanup 00:18:40 <-- BlueMaxima has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.1) 00:19:25 <flo> ok, I'll stop now for this evening 00:19:27 <flo> 73 files changed, 2368 insertions(+), 4501 deletions(-) 00:19:58 <clokep> =-o Lots of changes! 00:20:09 <aleth> must be a record 00:20:20 <flo> http://pastebin.instantbird.com/1052 00:20:43 <aleth> am impressed by the insertion/deletion ratio, is that partly due to c++ -> js? 00:20:44 <instantbot> c++ is evil 00:20:59 <clokep> I'd expect so. 00:21:55 <flo> aleth: yes, it's the C++ XPCOM -> modern JS transition 00:27:27 <-- gmoro_ has quit (Ping timeout) 00:28:39 <instantbot> florian@instantbird.org added attachment 976 to bug 759. 00:28:41 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=759 min, --, ---, florian, ASSI, Reorganize purplexpcom 00:28:56 <flo> I haven't set a r? flag, but any review comments are welcome of course :) 00:29:07 --> gmoro_ has joined #instantbird 00:29:35 <flo> I'll try to do a self-review before commiting it 00:30:25 <flo> + I would like to understand how things are going with libpurple plugin loaded as XPCOM components (= not statically linked to the libpurple core). I thought that part was going to be broken but... prpl-null is loaded in my debug build, so I'm puzzled and would like to understand :) 00:30:53 <clokep> I'll definitely read over some of it, we'll see if i hav ecomments or if it's beyond me. ;) 00:31:49 <Mook_as> hmm, please CC me? 00:32:13 <flo> Mook_as: no, I haven't played with the cycle collector :-P 00:32:46 <Mook_as> flo: oh, not _that_ CC, that would just abort the universe due to trying to use it on the wrong thread 00:33:19 <-- gmoro_ has quit (Ping timeout) 00:35:21 --> gmoro_ has joined #instantbird 00:48:48 <flo> Good night 00:48:50 <-- flo has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2a1pre) 01:00:15 <-- myk1 has quit (Ping timeout) 01:01:17 --> myk has joined #instantbird 01:01:27 <-- clokep has quit (Ping timeout) 01:02:34 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 01:02:34 * ChanServ sets mode +h clokep 01:03:06 <-- myk has quit (Ping timeout) 01:09:47 <-- clokep has left #instantbird () 01:09:52 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 01:09:52 * ChanServ sets mode +h clokep 01:13:48 <-- clokep has left #instantbird () 01:13:54 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 01:13:54 * ChanServ sets mode +h clokep 01:16:39 <-- aleth has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2a1pre) 01:45:17 <-- Mook_as has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.87-rdmsoft [XULRunner 1.9.2.13/20101203074205]) 01:51:56 --> myk has joined #instantbird 02:17:25 <-- gmoro_ has quit (Ping timeout) 02:19:08 --> gmoro_ has joined #instantbird 02:24:46 <-- myk has quit (Ping timeout) 02:52:14 --> skeledrew has joined #instantbird 03:11:17 <-- clokep has left #instantbird () 04:36:19 --> Mook has joined #instantbird 04:42:32 --> rikki1 has joined #instantbird 04:42:39 <-- rikki has quit (Ping timeout) 04:43:58 <-- gmoro_ has quit (Ping timeout) 04:46:32 --> gmoro_ has joined #instantbird 04:47:06 --> EionRobb1 has joined #instantbird 04:47:29 <-- EionRobb has quit (Ping timeout) 05:13:22 <-- Mook has quit (Ping timeout) 05:14:14 --> Mook has joined #instantbird 05:23:18 <-- EionRobb1 has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 05:41:32 --> BlueMaxima has joined #instantbird 05:45:24 <-- BlueMaxima has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.1) 06:42:43 --> jb has joined #instantbird 06:48:48 <-- devfil has quit (Ping timeout) 06:58:21 --> gerard-majax has joined #instantbird 07:00:08 <-- gerard-majax has quit (Ping timeout) 07:00:20 <-- micahg has quit (Ping timeout) 07:01:38 <-- Mook has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.87-rdmsoft [XULRunner 6.0/20110811165603]) 07:14:34 --> jb1 has joined #instantbird 07:15:14 <-- jb has quit (Ping timeout) 07:15:18 --> micahg has joined #instantbird 07:42:35 <-- jb1 has quit (Ping timeout) 07:44:26 --> BYK has joined #instantbird 07:49:37 --> chrisccoulson has joined #instantbird 08:09:01 <-- BYK has left #instantbird () 08:10:43 --> jb has joined #instantbird 08:22:17 --> MadWookiee has joined #instantbird 08:22:33 <-- MadWookiee has left #instantbird () 08:47:42 <-- jb has quit (Ping timeout) 08:51:33 --> jb has joined #instantbird 09:03:24 --> gerard-majax has joined #instantbird 09:19:02 <-- Even has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2a1pre) 09:19:11 --> Even has joined #instantbird 09:19:11 * ChanServ sets mode +o Even 09:50:21 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 10:00:32 --> flo has joined #instantbird 10:00:33 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo flo 10:01:27 <flo> hello :) 10:13:21 <aleth> hi :) 10:15:18 <aleth> huh, google has removed the + operator 10:17:50 <flo> is there a replacement? 10:18:25 <flo> (or a rational for this removal) 10:18:52 <aleth> I just looked 10:19:08 <aleth> The replacement is ".." (so they have merged + with exact search) 10:19:43 <aleth> The rationale is that +xyz now brings you a Google+ page paid for by company xyz 10:26:19 <flo> ok :) 10:47:29 --> GeekShadow has joined #instantbird 11:01:37 <-- jb has quit (Ping timeout) 11:14:08 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 11:14:08 * ChanServ sets mode +h clokep 11:20:53 <clokep> Uhh..."Instantbird icon sketch" via http://benjamin.smedbergs.us/weekly-updates.fcgi/user/andreasn ? 11:21:40 <clokep> Is he the one you guys were talking about previously about icons? 11:22:00 <flo> he's the Thunderbird icon/design guy 11:22:18 <flo> I haven't asked him anything, but ecaron may have :) 11:22:34 <flo> clokep: hello :) 11:22:43 <flo> have you found some time to review parts of my patch? 11:23:15 <clokep> flo: I looked over bits and pieces of it and nothing looks wrong, but it's a lot to try to understand at once. :( 11:23:26 <flo> the "Chat mockups" parts surprises me almost as much as the "Instantbird icon sketch" line. I'll need to talk to him soon! :) 11:23:47 <clokep> Haha! OK. :) Was curious if you had more information and there was an icon sketch somewhere. ;) 11:24:03 <flo> it seems there is one somewhere! ;) 11:27:29 <clokep> :) 11:27:39 <clokep> I had a question now about your code, but just what some of it is doing... 11:27:57 <clokep> What is |#pragma GCC visibility push(default)| (and then there's a pop line after you include a header) 11:28:41 <flo> that's only for linux 11:29:00 <flo> on linux Mozilla's xpcom stuff is compiled with visibility hidden 11:29:27 <flo> but libpurple is compiled with visibility default (= everything accessible by outside libraries, except when there's a static keyword) 11:29:40 <clokep> I see. 11:30:03 <flo> if I don't include these pragma directives, gcc is unhappy about different visibility for the same symbols 11:30:15 <clokep> We need to reimplement purpleUnknownProtocol still. :-/ 11:30:24 <flo> it's done 11:31:12 <flo> see the UnknownProtocol object in imAccounts.js 11:31:46 <clokep> Ah, awesome. :) 11:31:52 <flo> we need to a way to fail less noisily when loading a buddy of an account with an unknown protocol (but we have a bug filed on that) 11:32:01 <clokep> I need to learn how to spell first though... 11:32:44 <clokep> Ah, yeah that's what I was getting at. 11:33:05 <clokep> I have a few that pop up in my buddy list. :( 11:33:08 <flo> (or we can also just remove the noise) 11:33:21 <flo> (depending on whether we still think these buddies should be visible in the list or not) 11:33:44 <flo> "a few that pop up in my buddy list" ? 11:36:15 <clokep> Yeah I have a few of the errors in my real profile and it bothers me every time I open the error console. :( 11:36:24 <clokep> I'd think they should still be visible personally. 11:39:22 <flo> I don't feel strongly either way, but I would like to have less noise during startup of my debug build :) 11:39:57 <flo> with all of this implemented in JS, fixing this becomes quite easy 11:44:47 <clokep> Yup! :) 11:46:27 <-- clokep has left #instantbird () 11:53:09 <instantbot> florian@instantbird.org added attachment 977 to bug 759. 11:53:11 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=759 min, --, ---, florian, ASSI, Reorganize purplexpcom 11:56:26 --> jb has joined #instantbird 11:59:23 <instantbot> New Websites - www.instantbird.com bug 1153 filed by benediktp@ymail.com. 11:59:24 <instantbot> benediktp@ymail.com added attachment 978 to bug 1153. 11:59:25 <instantbot> benediktp@ymail.com requested review from do.not.deliver@gmx. de for attachment 978 on bug 1153. 11:59:26 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1153 min, --, ---, nobody, NEW, German locale: string changes to "features" webpage 12:34:20 <aleth> Hey, is that the guy who designed the Earlybird/Thunderbird icons? 12:40:15 --> clokep_work has joined #instantbird 12:40:16 * ChanServ sets mode +h clokep_work 12:41:22 <clokep_work> aleth: I think so. 12:43:12 <aleth> Well then I am looking forward to seeing the sketch :) 12:44:09 <aleth> Looking at flo's code reminds me to learn more JS ;) 12:45:48 <clokep_work> Looking at flo's newest code reminds me I have no understanding of the build system. :P 12:54:03 <flo> clokep_work: of the build system? really? 12:54:09 <flo> most of the new code is in JS 12:55:12 <clokep_work> flo: That newest one you put up to have purple protocols register automatically or something. 12:56:34 <clokep_work> aleth: So Sean Martell did the earlybird / daily icons: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=669341 13:02:36 <flo> clokep_work: well, there's nothing related to the build system in that. It's just some xpcom category registration. I moved it from a static file to something binary components register during the first startup 13:02:49 --> jb1 has joined #instantbird 13:03:26 <-- jb has quit (Ping timeout) 13:48:09 --> jb has joined #instantbird 13:48:47 <-- jb1 has quit (Ping timeout) 13:54:44 <flo> I've removed idechix from the default CC list of bugs in the websites/www.instantbird.com/org components, as it doesn't make any sense any more to have him CC'ed automatically there 13:54:57 <flo> I looked at the CC lists of all the website components 13:55:12 <flo> I was wondering if we should add ecaron in the default CC list of blog.instantbird.com 14:04:10 <clokep_work> We probably should. 14:04:38 <clokep_work> flo: Ah, OK. Well then...it reminds me I have little understanding of the XPCOM system, especially C++ components. 14:04:39 * instantbot mumbles something about c++ being evil 14:29:48 <flo> https://wiki.mozilla.org/EU_MozCamp_2011/Schedule/Product_and_Technology_Track/Instantbird how does this summary feel? 14:31:17 <flo> or would you rather go to https://wiki.mozilla.org/EU_MozCamp_2011/Schedule/Product_and_Technology_Track/Contributing_to_Firefox_Front_End or https://wiki.mozilla.org/EU_MozCamp_2011/Schedule/Product_and_Technology_Track/Jetpack_L10N (scheduled at the same time)? 14:37:18 <clokep_work> It feels OK. It could possibly be a little more exciting. 14:37:45 <clokep_work> (The l10n one sounds lame. ;) But the Firefox UI one might be interesting for web developers...I think including something about the target audience in there might help?) 14:38:29 <clokep_work> Or perhaps a sentence about what sets Instantbird apart from other messaging clients? I don't know. I'm not sure of the population that goes to these things. :) 14:39:02 <flo> current european mozilla contributors that Mozilla Europe has invited 14:39:43 <flo> so I would expect lots of localizers, but also a few developers + all the speakers of the other talks ;) 14:44:02 <clokep_work> Alright. :) I can't think of much more to say in it, but hopefully other people have ideas. 14:44:15 <flo> I tried to keep it short 14:44:23 <flo> my first draft was 3 times longer 14:45:14 --> Tomek has joined #instantbird 14:45:49 <clokep_work> Yeah. I feel like everything I want to say would add at least another 2 - 3 sentences (doubling the length). :-/ 14:53:28 <-- gerard-majax has quit (Ping timeout) 14:59:47 --> gerard-majax has joined #instantbird 15:18:41 --> ecaron has joined #instantbird 15:21:49 --> devfil has joined #instantbird 15:26:51 --> andreasn has joined #instantbird 15:26:58 <andreasn> clokep_work, hello 15:27:26 <clokep_work> Hello andreasn. :) We noticed your weekly status update thing. I think flo (florian in #maildev) was interested too! 15:27:51 <andreasn> http://www.andreasn.se/diverse/temp/instantbird.jpg 15:27:56 <andreasn> very rough sketch 15:28:12 --> bwinton has joined #instantbird 15:28:42 <clokep_work> Better than anything I could do. ;) 15:30:14 <clokep_work> We do have interest in updating the icon though (I'm not sure if anyone contacted people? There was some discussion about it...) 15:30:53 <flo> clokep_work: ecaron sent some emails after the icon discussion that started on twitter a few days ago 15:31:13 <clokep_work> Ah OK. :) 15:32:58 <flo> andreasn: nice sketch! :) 15:33:35 <andreasn> no idea about color or anything right now, but I might make it more detailed during the weekend or so 15:33:54 <andreasn> if you like the direction 15:34:02 <flo> it somehow makes me feel that it's related to the twitter bird (looks a bit like http://img2.generation-nt.com/twitter-bird-logo_00FA000000612411.jpg with the head turned in a different direction) Is this on purpose (instantbird does support twitter)? 15:34:35 <andreasn> Twitter owns birds these days :) 15:34:39 <flo> of course, once colored, if the bird isn't blue, that similarity may not be visible anymore 15:34:40 * clokep_work had a similar thought. 15:36:24 <clokep_work> bug 1035 has some ideas in it too. Not sure if that discussion is useful. 15:36:26 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1035 nor, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, Update the Instantbird icon to signify an instant messenger 16:10:53 <flo> clokep_work: do you want more time to review changes, or can I just push it for the next nightly? 16:11:43 <clokep_work> flo: I think it'd be better to push it if it mostly works and then fix smaller errors if they come up. 16:12:08 <clokep_work> Maybe trigger a nightly too if you want some immediate testing. ;) 16:12:15 <clokep_work> "immediate" being a relative term of hours. :P 16:12:26 <flo> nighties appear quickly on linux ;) 16:12:56 <flo> by the way, I haven't tested that it compiles on non-Mac OSes :-D 16:13:09 <flo> but there's nothing that seem OS-specific in these changes 16:13:48 <clokep_work> Yeah, but Windows is a PITA. :P 16:14:40 <flo> mac is slower these days 16:14:56 <clokep_work> Oh? 16:15:06 <clokep_work> Wasn't there talk about clang speeding it up a lot? 16:15:37 <flo> the build machine is venerably old + it builds once for PPC, then one for x86, then a third time to merge both builds. 16:16:44 <aleth> still two architectures current for OSX? 16:17:51 <clokep_work> Still support OS X 10.5, which is both PPC and Intel. 16:18:11 <flo> venerably old is ~ 6 or 7 years in this case. 16:18:35 <flo> surprising that it can still work and even be useful as a compile server ;) 16:18:36 <aleth> right, and that's not that old, considering when win xp came out (for instance) 16:19:37 <flo> aleth: well, that machine probably shipped with 10.2 or 10.3 ;) 16:27:00 <aleth> birds are just a little overloaded already http://www.iconfinder.com/search/?q=bird 16:28:41 <-- gerard-majax has quit (Ping timeout) 16:28:49 <aleth> mainly due to twitter of course 16:30:48 <clokep_work> Well of course if you search bird it's going to give you a lot of birds back! ;) 16:31:30 * clokep_work personally thought of a Hummingbird around a globe or around a chat bubble (a la the Thunderbird or, dare I say, Sunbird logos). 16:31:38 <aleth> well e.g. horse gives you 10 results and half of those are chess pieces ;) 16:32:09 <-- ecaron has quit (Ping timeout) 16:32:19 <clokep_work> Ah supporting playing chess via IM, that's a feature we should add, glad you just found icons! 16:32:33 <aleth> But yeah, just means it has to be creative 16:33:14 <flo> IM games! :) 16:33:35 <flo> if we could get enthusiast add-on authors implementing lots of games played over IM, that would be really nice :) 16:33:41 <aleth> yup :) 16:34:26 * flo wonders why tweaking the appearance of the slide templates seems to take almost half of the time of creating slides for each presentation 16:34:30 <clokep_work> I believe some protocols (Yahoo?) actually support it directly. 16:34:43 <flo> those template are so reusable that we feel the need to create a new one for each presentation 16:36:50 <clokep_work> Just take one of those Instantbird backgrounds from idechix and throw it on as the background and voila you're done. ;) 16:37:01 <flo> and that doesn't work 16:37:12 <flo> the font of the "Instantbird" name has completely changed 16:37:23 <flo> + most of those wallpapers aren't designed to write above them 16:37:26 <flo> and even less display an image 16:37:59 <flo> my template for this presentation will be much simpler than the one I used in the past 16:38:08 <flo> and there will be less words per slides (and more slides) 16:39:10 <flo> what surprises me in this whole slide template thing is that I can't seem to think about the content until I can see the template, because if the template is horrible, I can't imagine myself presenting the slide 16:39:12 <clokep_work> :) 16:40:01 <flo> I'm close to something that I like 16:40:02 <aleth> yeah... 16:40:26 <aleth> And once the template looks good the words look better there too 16:40:26 <flo> but I've already been tweaking that for almost 2 hours 16:40:48 <aleth> I can spend ages choosing a font ;) 16:41:07 <flo> that was an easy step, I took the font from ib.com 16:48:17 --> ecaron has joined #instantbird 17:05:11 <-- SM0TVI has quit (Ping timeout) 17:06:15 --> SM0TVI has joined #instantbird 17:20:23 <-- SM0TVI has quit (Ping timeout) 17:21:33 --> SM0TVI has joined #instantbird 17:22:08 * wesj is now known as wesj_away 17:28:25 <flo> http://queze.net/goinfre/slides-moz-camp2011/ (no content yet, just the template) 17:29:27 <-- SM0TVI has quit (Ping timeout) 17:30:32 --> igorko has joined #instantbird 17:30:44 --> SM0TVI has joined #instantbird 17:33:02 <clokep_work> flo: Looks shiny! 17:33:12 <aleth> All consistent with the website! 17:33:37 <igorko> hi 17:39:35 <aleth> You write your slides in HTML? 17:39:56 <flo> is there any other way to do slides? 17:40:46 <flo> each time I attempted to create something with PowerPoint (or the equivalent crap in OOo), I wanted to throw the computer out the window. 17:41:33 <flo> I haven't tried PowerPoint 2007 (or later), I've heard some people pretending that was usable. 17:41:36 <aleth> I had heard on Mac that Keynote is quite good? 17:41:39 <flo> keynote may also be usable 17:41:55 <clokep_work> I've never had a big problem w/ PowerPoint, but generally my presentations are pretty dry. ;) 17:42:54 <flo> basically, I don't want to be clicking around while I'm working on the content 17:43:24 <aleth> I can see that HTML might be convenient given a suitable CSS library or something, but from scratch... 17:43:40 <flo> clicking is OK while caring about the appearance, but with powerpoint/the equivalent in OOo, the UI leads to do both content and appearance at the same time :( 17:53:26 <flo> aleth: I didn't write all that from scratch. I used Paul's http://paulrouget.com/dzslides/ 17:54:27 <aleth> Oh wow, that looks nice :) 17:55:01 <flo> in the past I used glazou's FullerScreen add-on 17:55:12 <flo> but having to maintain it myself just before each presentation was painful ;) 17:55:49 <-- igorko has quit (Ping timeout) 17:59:28 --> igorko has joined #instantbird 18:13:18 --> Mook_as has joined #instantbird 18:25:36 <-- aleth has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2a1pre) 18:25:39 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 18:29:27 <-- flo has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2a1pre) 18:58:56 * wesj_away is now known as wesj 19:17:19 --> gerard-majax has joined #instantbird 19:26:05 <-- clokep_work has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 19:30:57 --> EionRobb has joined #instantbird 19:36:48 * bwinton is now known as bwinton_away 19:38:16 --> mmkmou has joined #instantbird 19:46:12 <-- jb has quit (Ping timeout) 20:09:20 <-- EionRobb has quit (Ping timeout) 20:18:37 --> EionRobb has joined #instantbird 20:39:03 --> clokep_work has joined #instantbird 20:39:03 * ChanServ sets mode +h clokep_work 20:45:20 <-- gerard-majax has quit (Ping timeout) 20:57:50 <-- Tomek has quit (Connection reset by peer) 20:58:09 --> Tomek has joined #instantbird 21:00:52 <-- igorko has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.1) 21:15:29 --> hunsly has joined #instantbird 21:20:29 <-- clokep_work has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 21:41:45 --> flo has joined #instantbird 21:41:45 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo flo 21:55:49 --> BlueMaxima has joined #instantbird 22:05:46 <-- hunsly has quit (Ping timeout) 22:06:59 --> hunsly has joined #instantbird 22:17:44 <-- ecaron has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.1) 22:34:08 <-- aleth has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2a1pre) 22:34:18 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 22:34:46 <aleth> This nightly update just now, does that already include your megapatch, flo? 22:35:01 <flo> no 22:35:08 <flo> I'm reviewing/fixing it 22:35:31 <flo> I've just noticed several unused-on-Mac files that need changes 22:35:33 <aleth> Just asking because it came at an unusual time. My update pings must be out of sync 22:41:24 <-- micahg has quit (Ping timeout) 22:49:30 --> micahg has joined #instantbird 22:51:12 <-- hunsly has quit (Ping timeout) 22:53:13 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 22:53:13 * ChanServ sets mode +h clokep 22:58:07 <-- andreasn has quit (Ping timeout) 23:07:26 <-- aleth has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2a1pre) 23:07:28 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 23:11:31 * bwinton_away is now known as bwinton 23:16:17 <-- aleth has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2a1pre) 23:16:21 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 23:17:42 <aleth> After using the add-on site for months, I have just discovered the little tickbox on the browse that is the only way to discover newly added experimental add-ons :( 23:18:18 <aleth> I was a little concerned that the "new" add-ons never seemed to change. But actually there is a fair amount of activity! 23:18:55 <aleth> So I suspect add-ons are getting stuck in experimental limbo because, not being discovered, they lack reviews, and therefore they never go public? 23:19:46 <-- bwinton has left #instantbird () 23:20:50 <aleth> Or maybe it's just me... :P 23:23:10 <aleth> Anyhow, this only applies to the usability category anyway, as the others have a different interface without an 'experimental' tickbox. Not sure what happens there 23:23:11 <flo> except reviews aren't needed for add-ons to get public 23:23:53 <flo> a screenshot is though, and that part is hard for my add-ons, as they rarely expose a new piece of UI :-/ 23:25:15 <aleth> umm... http://i.imgur.com/BhX9f.png 23:25:46 <aleth> Maybe the conditions should be formulated more flexibly ("as a rule, ..." 23:26:40 <aleth> But my point was more about discoverability - are experimental non-usability add-ons findable by any means if you don't know their name? 23:28:21 <flo> I've found a few more needed changes (22 files changed, 63 insertions(+), 93 deletions(-) 23:28:21 <flo> ) while reviewing my patch 23:30:04 <-- aleth has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2a1pre) 23:30:07 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 23:30:16 <flo> aleth: that description is just not accurate :( 23:30:23 <flo> screenshot are required (and that sucks) 23:30:35 <flo> reviews are "better", but not mandatory 23:31:13 <aleth> Yes, I made a tiny 1x1 gif for one of mine ;) 23:31:22 <flo> ahah 23:31:28 <flo> why not png? 23:31:46 <aleth> oh, it probably was a png, you are right 23:32:06 <aleth> might have been 2x2 as well, just needed something :P 23:38:58 <flo> clokep: I can confirm that the icon ratio is correctly kept for what we sent to IM servers 23:45:35 <-- aleth has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2a1pre) 23:45:38 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 23:46:50 <-- mmkmou has quit (Ping timeout) 23:47:35 --> mmkmou has joined #instantbird 23:50:12 <clokep> flo: Awesome! :) 23:50:36 <flo> I've just verified it at least on AIM and MSN 23:54:05 <instantbot> New Websites - addons.instantbird.org (Remora) bug 1154 filed by aletheia2@fastmail.fm. 23:54:06 <instantbot> aletheia2@fastmail.fm added attachment 979 to bug 1154. 23:54:07 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1154 nor, --, ---, raynaudquentin, NEW, Stated conditions for nominating an add-on for 'public' status are incorrect 23:54:16 <clokep> So often I just don't show up in one of my friends contact lists. :-/ Unfortuantely there doesn't seem to be any STR. 23:54:34 <flo> which protocol(s)? 23:56:52 <-- mmkmou has quit (Ping timeout) 23:57:45 <clokep> AIM, Gtalk, ICQ. 23:58:14 <clokep> I lied, ICQ works. :) He wasn't signed into that one. 23:58:51 <instantbot> florian@instantbird.org added attachment 980 to bug 759. 23:58:53 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=759 min, --, ---, florian, ASSI, Reorganize purplexpcom 23:59:05 <-- aleth has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.2a1pre) 23:59:07 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 23:59:26 <flo> clokep: do you want to look at these additional changes? If not, I'm ready to commit 23:59:43 <clokep> flo: I'm about to eat dinner. :-/