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On github you would do a pull request 09:41:02 --> FeuerFliege has joined #instantbird 09:47:24 <flo> aleth: is there any reason for the status bars to be that huge for you? 09:47:44 <aleth> You mean at the bottom of the windows? 09:48:10 <flo> yes 09:49:17 <aleth> Yes, I was wondering about that. I think it's a consequence of the window resizer in the bottom right, as it also happens on gnome 09:50:26 <aleth> Haven't tried to track it down in the code though 09:51:07 <aleth> I.e. my hypothesis it's a consequence of resizable window border + explicit window resizer triangle at the same time 09:52:49 <aleth> You don't need both of course 09:53:10 --> chrisccoulson has joined #instantbird 09:54:51 <aleth> It's also possible the size varies with the (OS) theme used. But the KDE default and Clearlooks are pretty standard 10:07:28 <aleth> To some extent the size is partly to blame on the implementation of themes with rounded corners. There are other apps which seem a bit bottom-heavy as a consequence. 10:10:41 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 10:10:41 * ChanServ sets mode +h clokep 10:48:24 <-- ironhead has quit (Ping timeout) 10:53:52 <-- clokep has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.1a1pre) 10:56:27 * flo wonders how many of our localizers have been invited to https://wiki.mozilla.org/EU_MozCamp_2011 11:11:28 <-- aleth has quit (Input/output error) 11:18:45 <-- mmkmou has quit (Ping timeout) 11:25:31 --> hunsly has joined #instantbird 11:29:26 <-- chrisccoulson has quit (Ping timeout) 11:30:07 --> chrisccoulson has joined #instantbird 11:35:00 <-- chrisccoulson has quit (Connection reset by peer) 11:35:24 --> mmkmou has joined #instantbird 11:35:41 --> chrisccoulson has joined #instantbird 11:45:09 --> clokep_work has joined #instantbird 11:45:09 * ChanServ sets mode +h clokep_work 11:48:15 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 12:25:39 <-- mmkmou has quit (Ping timeout) 12:27:44 <-- aleth has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.1a1pre) 12:39:06 --> ironhead has joined #instantbird 12:41:40 <-- ironhead has quit (Ping timeout) 12:42:59 --> mmkmou has joined #instantbird 13:35:22 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 13:35:23 * ChanServ sets mode +h Mic 13:38:57 --> ecaron has joined #instantbird 13:54:14 <instantbot> New Instantbird (UI) bug 1061 filed by benediktp@ymail.com. 13:54:15 <instantbot> benediktp@ymail.com added attachment 866 to bug 1061. 13:54:16 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1061 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Unsharp MUC icon in infobar on conversation top (height is 1px too large) 13:55:14 <flo> I haven't fully read it, but it seems possible that https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=666446 just fixed the bug we have had for years with animated emoticons. 13:56:51 <-- chrisccoulson has quit (Ping timeout) 14:02:05 --> chrisccoulson has joined #instantbird 14:03:13 <-- chrisccoulson has quit (Client exited) 14:20:28 <-- mmkmou has quit (Ping timeout) 14:22:40 <-- FeuerFliege has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.1a1pre) 14:29:44 * Mic hates CSS work :S 14:33:18 --> chrisccoulson has joined #instantbird 14:36:36 <-- Mic has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.1a1pre) 14:36:56 --> mmkmou has joined #instantbird 14:59:41 * ecaron Eric likes CSS works, feels like this make Mic look down up him now 15:00:02 <ecaron> Oh right, I don't need to add my time to it. Damn you /me, you're smarter than /me 15:00:27 * ecaron Goes back into hiding 15:01:40 <flo> ecaron: CSS gets really painful when trying to have something that works the same on several different platforms that have different default values for the CSS properties of all the elements around ;) 15:02:12 <-- jb has quit (Ping timeout) 15:02:13 --> jb has joined #instantbird 15:02:19 <ecaron> I'm not saying it is easy, and doing it in Instantbird is certainly 40x harder than web work. I just like the challenge of it in general. 15:03:07 <ecaron> The "WTF?!?! This should be 4px to the right" puzzles are kind of a nice break from dealing with SQL servers being jackasses or Drizzle not compiling on 32-bit 15:03:52 <flo> 4px is too easy (it's clearly visible without zooming) 15:04:44 <flo> it's trickier when there's only a 1px difference + anti-aliasing on the rendering, because you need to zoom to check the difference, and even then can't be really use. It just "feels bad" when looking at the normal size 15:05:38 <ecaron> Can we just talk everyone into using ncurses? 15:06:10 <flo> something that's also time consuming is to get the labels that become editable when clicked right (but you probably can't notice as I think they are mostly broken on WinAero, as I've never fixed them there ; I only bothered with Mac / Ubuntu / XP) 15:07:00 <flo> when editing a topic or aliasing a contact, or changing one's display name, or one's status message, the text in the editable box should appear exactly at the same place as the text of the label that was there before starting to edit. And when finishing the edit, the frame of the box should just disappear, the text shouldn't move. 15:12:38 <-- chrisccoulson has quit (Ping timeout) 15:20:17 --> mr_trousers has joined #instantbird 15:20:42 <mr_trousers> Hi, :) 15:21:42 <mr_trousers> Someone here? :) 15:22:45 <flo> mr_trousers: are you here? If so, you have the answer to your question ;). I suspect you have a more interesting question to ask though :) 15:25:35 <mr_trousers> lol 15:25:38 <mr_trousers> Yes, 15:26:07 <mr_trousers> just wanted to know by curiousity, what will be the evolutions on the next version of Instantbird? 15:26:39 <mr_trousers> (dans les grandes lignes, pas en détail. je le dis en français parce que "dans les grandes lignes", je vois pas comment traduire ça :) ). 15:27:01 <-- GeekShadow has quit (Client exited) 15:28:20 --> Andrey has joined #instantbird 15:28:42 <flo> much more usable twitter. Sametime support. A way to put conversations on hold (closing a conversation tab without actually leaving the conversation). 15:28:44 --> chrisccoulson has joined #instantbird 15:29:00 <flo> better stability (top crashes fixed) 15:29:52 <flo> are you waiting/hoping for something specific? 15:31:13 <mr_trousers> hoping voice to begin :) 15:31:16 <mr_trousers> with xmpp 15:31:43 <flo> voice but not video? Interesting :) 15:31:52 <mr_trousers> It's so hard to have a good client xmpp with voice. 15:32:16 <mr_trousers> video could be great too, but voice first and video after, or both in the same time if you can. Days are only 24 hours :) 15:33:02 <flo> if you want to help making it happen, that can also speed it up maybe ;) 15:34:50 <mr_trousers> Oh, maybe remember me, i didn't put your client on the page of Wiki Korben http://free.korben.info/index.php/Clients_de_messagerie_instantanée (cause we try to list those who are much good for security or who are special (for example Mumble ) ). 15:34:55 <mr_trousers> but i put it on this one: http://free.korben.info/index.php/XMPP_%C3%A0_tout_faire#Cr.C3.A9er_un_compte_XMPP cause if there is a real good point for your client it is the simplicity. 15:35:09 <mr_trousers> I would, but i'm not programmer :( 15:35:55 <flo> you can probably find other ways to help :) 15:36:16 <mr_trousers> and do you think you will include voice in instantbird? if yes, do you know when? 15:36:19 <mr_trousers> how could i help? 15:37:16 --> igorko has joined #instantbird 15:37:48 <flo> 1.1 will be released soon (this month). Then for 1.2, we will replace the current XMPP plugin with some XMPP code implemented in JavaScript that was developed during the summer. It should be way easier to extend, so 1.2 would be a better base to start voice over XMPP experiments :) 15:39:55 <mr_trousers> ok, good thing. not fan of javascript as you know, but it's better than nothing. :) 15:40:17 <mr_trousers> And i don't know if i've already said it but it would be good, as Coccinella or PSI, to have, when you use XMPP on Instantbird, a list of servers included, for creating a login XMPP INSIDE Instantbird. It would help people to use more easily XMPP. 15:40:30 <flo> I never understood why. Or is it just the name? :-P 15:40:46 <mr_trousers> There is a list of servers on the page that i sent up to you. 15:41:18 <mr_trousers> Cause Javascript makes a lot of security troubles as i know, (and flash too). 15:41:37 <flo> There's no data to back that claim though. 15:41:47 <flo> (for javascript) 15:41:57 <flo> flash is an obvious cause of security issues 15:42:02 --> mokush has joined #instantbird 15:43:01 <flo> I've got to go, talk to you later :) 15:43:04 <-- flo has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.1a1pre) 15:44:19 <-- ecaron has left #instantbird () 15:47:15 <-- mr_trousers has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 15:52:16 --> mr-trousers has joined #instantbird 15:59:11 <-- jb has quit (Ping timeout) 16:00:32 <-- mr-trousers has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 16:04:29 <-- Andrey has quit (Quit: ) 16:07:35 <clokep_work> Registering inside Instantbird would be nice for both XMPP/IRC (not sure if any other protocols would support that). 16:07:59 <clokep_work> I'm not sure how I feel about including a list of servers though. :-/ That means we need to maintain it. 16:14:03 <-- chrisccoulson has quit (Ping timeout) 16:17:14 --> chrisccoulson has joined #instantbird 16:19:36 <-- chrisccoulson has quit (Ping timeout) 16:22:33 --> Mook_as has joined #instantbird 16:35:12 --> jb has joined #instantbird 16:36:58 <-- jb has quit (Ping timeout) 16:37:08 --> jb has joined #instantbird 17:21:06 <-- gerard-majax has quit (Ping timeout) 17:51:53 --> gerard-majax has joined #instantbird 18:14:47 <-- mokush has quit (Client exited) 18:27:24 <-- mmkmou has left #instantbird () 18:59:00 <-- Even has quit (Ping timeout) 19:01:23 <-- hunsly has quit (Ping timeout) 19:09:10 --> chrisccoulson has joined #instantbird 19:12:02 <-- vicnet has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.1a1pre) 19:12:12 --> vicnet has joined #instantbird 19:19:05 --> flo has joined #instantbird 19:19:05 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo flo 19:21:36 <flo> maintaining a list of "all" servers would be painful, yes... 19:21:52 <flo> but maybe we can just provide one or two "recommended" servers? 19:22:59 <flo> would be nice to find a server or two that would appreciate more users and would send a tiny amount of money our way each time a new user creates an account 19:23:33 <flo> I'm not sure if there are server providers that make enough money for that without having bad privacy practices :-S 19:34:24 <flo> ah, that man wanting to pay us to bundle a browser toolbar add-on is back with new "exciting" (:-D) proposals: "I have an semi-exclusive upsell offer, non-search toolbar for shopping." 19:34:26 <flo> "are very clean, AV free, and opt-in for the user experience." 19:34:36 <flo> that's non sense to me :-D 19:54:30 --> EionRobb has joined #instantbird 20:04:25 --> ecaron has joined #instantbird 20:12:26 --> jb1 has joined #instantbird 20:12:53 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 20:13:11 <-- jb has quit (Ping timeout) 20:13:13 <clokep_work> Hahah. 20:13:56 <clokep_work> Maintaining a list of "all" servers could be useful like Mozilla's ISPDB, but (afaik) that has some help from ISPs providing their own information and I believe it's also used in Evolution and maybe other clients. 20:16:42 <clokep_work> But that's for the future I think. :) 20:20:30 --> linuxwizard has joined #instantbird 20:29:11 <-- clokep_work has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 20:32:56 <-- igorko has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.1a1pre) 20:43:12 --> GeekShadow has joined #instantbird 20:49:52 <-- ecaron has left #instantbird () 20:54:26 <-- jb1 has quit (Ping timeout) 21:07:52 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 21:07:52 * ChanServ sets mode +h clokep 21:32:20 --> jb has joined #instantbird 21:34:08 --> ecaron has joined #instantbird 21:38:25 <clokep> Hmm...jabber.org is giving me trouble connecting... 21:49:12 * flo wonders how much work it would be to support OTR 21:49:17 <flo> (in an add-on) 21:49:35 <flo> is it easier to us jsctype to access libotr? To reimplement the whole thing in JS? 21:49:53 <flo> do we have enough hooks in our core to make that work easily? 21:50:58 * clokep is unsure what hooks are needed. ;) 21:51:29 <flo> I would say a way to modify messages both before they are sent and before they are received 21:51:38 <flo> before sending is trivial. 21:52:29 <flo> before receiving... many not so easy. An add-on could easily wrap a purpleConversation object, but that wouldn't prevent that original conversation object from dispatching new-text notifications around, with the originally received message 21:53:57 <flo> s/many/maybe/ 21:56:57 <-- jb has quit (Ping timeout) 21:57:18 <clokep> We do have hooks to handle when a message is received though, no? The text modifier stuff? Or is that not usable in this case. 21:57:45 <flo> way too late in the process 21:58:17 <flo> text modifiers are for the display inside the conversation binding 21:58:17 <clokep> Ah, OK. 21:58:21 <flo> (part of the UI) 21:58:26 <clokep> Got it. 22:00:26 <flo> I think the only change really needed is easy :). 22:00:49 <flo> we would need to send the "new-text" notification to the observer service from the UIConversation rather than the purpleConversation 22:01:45 <flo> so remove http://lxr.instantbird.org/instantbird/source/purple/purplexpcom/src/purpleInitConv.cpp#130 and http://lxr.instantbird.org/instantbird/source/purple/purplexpcom/src/jsProtoHelper.jsm#341 (by the way, how come the C++ and jsProtoHelper don't send the 2 notifications in the same order ?!?) 22:01:45 <clokep> Why the sudden interest in OTR? ;) 22:01:46 * instantbot frowns at flo 22:02:51 <flo> and then fire it from http://lxr.instantbird.org/instantbird/source/purple/purplexpcom/src/imConversations.js#259 22:03:24 <flo> clokep: I still think OTR is pointless. But I read "I would move to #instantbird if it had #otr support." on my twitter timeline, and it was a "good" procrastination of the totally boring sw:1.1 list 22:04:29 <flo> by the way, even though I'm not a fan of the OTR idea, I would like to know we are not lying if we say "you can implement it as an add-on if you really want it" 22:04:31 <clokep> Haha. :) 22:07:27 <-- Tonnes has quit (Ping timeout) 22:08:32 <flo> deduplicating the code sending that new-text notification sounds like a good idea anyway ;) 22:08:53 <clokep> Yes. :) I agree. 22:10:47 <flo> an OTR add-on would need to override the addConversation method here (http://lxr.instantbird.org/instantbird/source/purple/purplexpcom/src/imConversations.js#367) 22:10:51 <-- ecaron has left #instantbird () 22:11:57 <flo> so we would need to add a wrappedJSObject property to ConversationsService to make it extensible 22:13:26 <clokep> Seems like mostly minor changes though. 22:13:38 --> mahasamoot has joined #instantbird 22:14:09 <mahasamoot> do you support video chat for msn? 22:14:23 <flo> no 22:14:40 <mahasamoot> is that planned for the future? 22:15:15 <EionRobb> if I wrote a libpurple otr plugin (isntead of the pidgin otr plugin), could IB use it? 22:16:17 <flo> no 22:16:42 <flo> EionRobb: by the way, the libotr API is extremely friendly to libpurple ;) 22:17:05 <mahasamoot> flo, no to which question? 22:17:19 <flo> EionRobb: we don't plan to support non-prpl libpurple plugin 22:17:49 <EionRobb> that's a shame 22:18:29 <mahasamoot> why mozilla, isn't chrome better? 22:18:32 <flo> mahasamoot: we would like to have video chat (not only for MSN, but some other protocols too) in the future. There's no "plan" about it (= nobody has started to actually work on it) 22:18:46 <flo> mahasamoot: no. :) 22:18:52 <EionRobb> I've just been looking into reworking the pidgin otr plugin is all, splitting it up into a libpurple plugin and a UI plugin, using some signals or something 22:18:53 <mahasamoot> I see 22:19:36 <flo> EionRobb: we plan to make libpurple (and all GPL'ed code) optional in a not so distant future, so that some parts of our code could be reused in code with GPL-incompatible licence. 22:20:14 <flo> EionRobb: and we use libpurple as a library to connect to some protocols; definitely not as the core of our applicationb. 22:20:16 <flo> *application 22:21:17 <flo> EionRobb: I do understand that it would be nice for libpurple plugin authors to be able to target Pidgin, Finch, Adium and Instantbird at once ;). 22:24:03 <EionRobb> maybe via a buildbot or something 22:25:09 <flo> clokep: http://pastebin.instantbird.com/1000 I think this is all the changes that would be needed for such an add-on to become possible. 4 insertions(+), 7 deletions(-) It even shortens our code! :) 22:26:43 <clokep> flo: Looks reasonable (and I'm a fan of deduplicating). 22:27:13 <flo> totally untested though :) 22:27:14 <Mook_as> as a test, implement rot13 instead of otr :p 22:27:47 <flo> if we decide we want to land it before 1.1, I can test it tomorrow I gues 22:27:47 <flo> s 22:27:49 <flo> Mook_as: nice idea :) 22:28:10 <Mook_as> that will do the Right Thing for logging, right? 22:28:13 <flo> Mook_as: or maybe just exchange the upper/lower case in strings? :) 22:28:17 <Mook_as> (after first defining what the right things is) 22:28:29 <Mook_as> flo: ha, yes, or just toUpperCase everything! 22:28:29 <flo> Mook_as: logs would be unencrypted 22:28:41 <flo> Mook_as: that's not reversible 22:28:59 <Mook_as> send upper case, receive lower case, so you can tell which bits happened 22:29:09 <clokep> http://willyou.typewith.me/p/AvdzNX79oc is what I have as "release notes" right now. 22:29:12 <Mook_as> and trivial to implement (foo.toUpperCase()) 22:29:16 <clokep> typewith.me seems to be a bit unstable right now though. :( 22:29:38 <flo> sounds like a fun project to waste time on tomorrow 22:30:15 <flo> can I claim a rot13 encoding is a security add-on ? :) 22:30:57 <EionRobb> an insecure encryption is still an encryption right? 22:31:30 * flo encrypts with the identity function 22:31:32 <flo> :) 22:32:36 <clokep> Ask for their favorite number then encrypt it using rotnn? :P 22:32:58 <Mook_as> My favourite number is sqrt(-1)! 22:33:16 <flo> :) 22:33:24 <clokep> Mook_as: Ah, you mean j? 22:33:40 <Mook_as> Yep. 22:34:00 <clokep> Well....we can just take the ceil(abs(mag(favorite number))) and I think that'll give a positive integer. 22:34:21 <Mook_as> can you have a negative mag()? 22:34:47 <clokep> Uhhh...no, you're right. :) 22:35:10 <Mook_as> (I'm cheating: because it's a question, even if I'm wrong you can just answer "no" :P ) 22:35:53 <clokep> :) (Also rot13 doesn't really work with unicode...) 22:36:41 <Mook_as> it'd only deal with the ASCII-compatible subset, I think 22:37:14 <mahasamoot> flo, nice talking to you :-) 22:37:14 <clokep> Fine. :P 22:37:20 <-- mahasamoot has quit (Quit: Ex-Chat) 22:43:07 <flo> Good night :) 22:43:07 <-- flo has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.1a1pre) 23:03:43 <-- chrisccoulson has quit (Ping timeout) 23:08:36 --> ecaron has joined #instantbird 23:09:18 <-- ecaron has left #instantbird () 23:10:55 <clokep> instantbot: uuid 23:10:56 <instantbot> d7911461-34a9-4c5f-9912-8c6d71042a4a (/msg instantbot cid for CID form) 23:14:39 <clokep> Mook_as: Do you know if there's a way to make an application think there's an update? 23:15:20 <Mook_as> for testing? 23:15:29 <clokep> Yes. 23:15:35 <Mook_as> the easiest is to override the update url and feed it an empty update 23:15:45 <clokep> Hmm...OK. 23:15:49 <Mook_as> (or rather, a partial update containing a zero-byte file) 23:16:45 <clokep> Alright. 23:17:23 <clokep> I was hoping I could just like fake the version. :) 23:17:45 <Mook_as> oh, I was going for test the whole update flow :p 23:18:15 <clokep> I just need it to prompt me for an update. (bug 1041) 23:18:19 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1041 maj, --, ---, nobody, NEW, "more info for this update" links don't work 23:27:23 <clokep> Bah well I found an update URL that gives me an update :P https://update.instantbird.org/1/Instantbird/1.1a1pre/20111004041807/WINNT_x86-msvc/en-US/nightly/Windows_NT%206.0/update.xml