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00:00:39 <-- hicham has quit (Ping timeout) 00:00:58 <-- clokep has quit (Ping timeout) 00:02:59 <-- aleth has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.1a1pre) 00:10:43 <-- clokep1 has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.1a1pre) 00:10:50 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 00:10:50 * ChanServ sets mode +h clokep 00:12:24 <-- clokep has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.1a1pre) 00:12:35 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 00:12:35 * ChanServ sets mode +h clokep 01:03:08 <-- Mook_as has quit (Quit: gone) 02:04:56 <-- clokep has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.1a1pre) 02:22:37 --> Mook has joined #instantbird 02:36:10 <-- EionRobb has quit (Ping timeout) 02:41:09 --> EionRobb has joined #instantbird 03:30:08 <-- Mook has quit (Ping timeout) 03:32:03 --> Mook has joined #instantbird 03:32:09 <-- linuxwizard has left #instantbird () 03:33:06 <-- Mook has quit (NickServ (GHOST command used by Mook_)) 03:33:47 --> Mook has joined #instantbird 04:23:27 <-- DGMurdockIII has quit (Quit: get satisfied!  :: core-networks.de ««« (Gamers.IRC) »»» gamersirc.net ::) 04:29:09 <-- EionRobb has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 05:16:35 <-- Mook has quit (Ping timeout) 05:17:18 --> Mook has joined #instantbird 05:39:24 --> mokush has joined #instantbird 05:52:04 <-- mokush has quit (Client exited) 06:28:24 --> mokush has joined #instantbird 07:12:24 <-- gerard-majax has quit (Ping timeout) 07:21:04 <-- Mook has quit (Quit: z) 08:12:00 --> hunsly has joined #instantbird 08:23:51 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 08:26:32 --> jb has joined #instantbird 08:51:14 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 08:51:14 * ChanServ sets mode +h Mic 08:51:20 <Mic> Hi 08:51:24 --> flo has joined #instantbird 08:51:24 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo flo 08:54:27 <-- aleth has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.1a1pre) 08:54:53 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 08:56:54 <Mic> I wonder what I should do about the Linux look 08:57:38 <Mic> A good deal of people (that's just a guess!) might have the Ubuntu default theme but that's it :S 08:58:23 <Mic> And if I don't know the look of the theme .. any color is as good as the other. :( 09:00:31 <aleth> Linux doesn't look too bad atm 09:00:51 <aleth> The red roughly matches the red used for "unavailable" already 09:02:32 <aleth> I thought that was the idea ;) 09:03:45 <Mic> It should be the same red as the text on your tabs has when there's an unread message. 09:08:28 <aleth> That makes sense :) 09:20:23 <Mic> flo: is there a way to create everything that goes into omni.jar (or the unpacked equivalent) from the repository without having to compile Instantbird? 09:20:29 --> mmkmou has joined #instantbird 09:22:18 <Mic> I've found a Chrome packaging section in rules.mk (http://lxr.instantbird.org/instantbird/source/config/rules.mk#1788) but honestly I'm pretty lost in these files 09:23:14 <Mic> And I've got mozilla-build installed but no compiler 09:26:42 <flo> Mic: no. 09:26:50 <flo> But on linux you can do it without having to compile mozilla 09:27:04 <flo> if you can find a xulrunner sdk of the right mozilla version 09:27:54 <flo> I'm not sure that's really interesting though, as except if your machine is over 5 years old, compiling is relatively fast on Linux. 09:28:06 <flo> so compiling would take less time than figuring out how to avoid doing it 09:28:11 <flo> (this is not the case on Windows of course :-D) 09:28:16 <Mic> Linux might be bigger problem than the speed of the machine ;) 09:29:04 <Mic> I've compiled IB on Linux already (about a year ago, it was fast and easy) but Linux is just not what I use 09:29:51 <flo> Mic: then it's an additional reason to not try to do odd things there ;) 09:33:22 <Mic> Maybe I could strip away everything that's not related to chrome packaging and make sure the necessary variables are defined.. I feel adventurous today ;) 09:34:04 <flo> you seem to have time to waste 09:34:11 <flo> what's your goal exactly? 09:37:30 <Mic> I want to be able to edit the css/xul/js files in place (the repository) instead of having to copy changes I made on an unpacked Instantbird back to the repository (and trying to get preprocessor stuff correct and to try what I did there 09:38:11 <Mic> (there should be a closing bracket before the last "and") 09:39:35 <flo> and why can't you just compile it? 09:41:37 <Mic> I can only answer that with a rather facile "admin issues" answer ;) 09:42:02 <Mic> Thanks for trying to help, though 09:42:35 <flo> you aren't sudoer on your linux box? 09:46:47 <-- mokush has quit (Client exited) 09:47:19 <-- aleth has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.1a1pre) 10:00:50 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 10:00:50 * ChanServ sets mode +h clokep 10:02:49 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 10:04:40 --> gerard-majax has joined #instantbird 10:32:49 <-- vicnet has quit (Ping timeout) 10:34:55 <-- Mic has quit (Ping timeout) 10:35:46 <-- clokep has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.1a1pre) 10:48:05 <instantbot> florian@instantbird.org added attachment 858 to bug 929. 10:48:07 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=929 min, --, 1.1a1, mmkmou, REOP, Add keyboard shortcuts to menu 11:02:18 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 11:02:18 * ChanServ sets mode +h Mic 11:46:02 <-- Mic has quit (Ping timeout) 11:47:12 <-- mmkmou has quit (Ping timeout) 11:52:32 --> clokep_work has joined #instantbird 11:52:32 * ChanServ sets mode +h clokep_work 11:57:18 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 11:57:18 * ChanServ sets mode +h Mic 11:58:44 --> vicnet has joined #instantbird 11:59:59 <clokep_work> flo: That controller isn't terribly complicated. 12:04:02 --> mmkmou has joined #instantbird 12:13:24 <Mic> updateFileMenuitems() calls goUpdateCommand() for the two different commands and is itself called "onpopupshowing" 12:13:42 <Mic> Does this goUpdateCommand() automatically happen when trying to use a command with a keyboard shortcut? 12:46:24 <flo> http://www.zdnet.nl/ (second item on the front page) 12:51:08 <clokep_work> Google Translate really didn't like that page very much. :( 12:51:39 <aleth> didn't realize IB supported the string-and-two-tins protocol ;) 12:51:52 <-- jb has quit (Ping timeout) 12:52:02 --> jb has joined #instantbird 12:53:34 <flo> it's enough to understand the article. It says: having friends on different IM networks? Install each clients or install Instantbird. Instantbird is what is called a multiprotocol chat client, it supports <protocol list>. Then it talks about merging buddies into contacts, about the tags with a contact allowed to be in multiple tags 12:53:51 <flo> finally, it says as it's a XUL interface, it benefits from the mozilla extensibility, like Firefox. 12:55:17 <flo> Mic: goUpdateCommand isn't called when using the keyboard shortcut. goDoCommand (http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/toolkit/content/globalOverlay.js#91) calls controller.isCommandEnabled though, so we get the desired behavior. 12:55:42 <-- clokep_work has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 12:56:17 --> clokep_work has joined #instantbird 12:56:17 * ChanServ sets mode +h clokep_work 13:20:45 <-- mmkmou has quit (Ping timeout) 13:38:00 --> mmkmou has joined #instantbird 14:20:40 --> mokush has joined #instantbird 14:20:43 <-- Mic has quit (Ping timeout) 14:23:48 <-- jb has quit (Ping timeout) 14:34:43 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 14:34:43 * ChanServ sets mode +h Mic 14:45:57 --> igorko has joined #instantbird 14:47:54 --> clokep_wp7 has joined #instantbird 14:48:34 * clokep_wp7 is testing a WP7 client. ;-) 14:49:37 <Mic> flo: OK, thanks. Makes sense in a way.. 14:51:06 <-- clokep_wp7 has quit (Broken pipe) 15:08:05 --> ecaron has joined #instantbird 15:19:15 <-- mokush has quit (Client exited) 15:27:22 <-- Mic has quit (Ping timeout) 15:45:29 --> jb has joined #instantbird 15:47:40 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 15:47:40 * ChanServ sets mode +h Mic 15:55:45 <-- jb has quit (Ping timeout) 15:56:09 --> jb has joined #instantbird 15:59:33 <-- Mic has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.1a1pre) 16:36:27 --> Mook_as has joined #instantbird 16:53:50 --> chrisccoulson has joined #instantbird 16:58:35 <clokep_work> flo: Is there much more to do before release or should we start thinking release notes? 16:58:59 <flo> we need the release notes way before the release, as translators need to have time to translate them 16:59:27 <flo> so yes, it's time to start writing release notes 16:59:29 <clokep_work> ...so you'd like someone to work on release notes then? :P 17:02:57 <clokep_work> I'll see what I can do... 17:03:21 <flo> the first step is probably to hg clone the website repository ;) 17:04:09 <clokep_work> I have that at home already. :P 17:07:07 --> linuxwizard has joined #instantbird 17:13:09 <clokep_work> Bah actualy I need to do a few things. I'll look into it tonight. 17:13:27 <flo> does that patch with the controller look ok to commit right now? 17:14:06 <clokep_work> I have no tested it but it looked OK to me. (And it seemd like Mic looked over it too) 17:17:21 <instantbot> florian@instantbird.org set the Resolution field on bug 929 to FIXED. 17:17:24 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=929 min, --, 1.1a1, mmkmou, RESO FIXED, Add keyboard shortcuts to menu 17:18:12 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/60cbf7f3336b - Florian Quèze - Bug 929 - follow-up to add a controller to handle disabling the joinchat and addbuddy commands. 17:25:45 <-- gerard-majax has quit (Ping timeout) 17:27:46 <clokep_work> If no one gets around to it I'll probably look at bug 1041 later too. 17:27:49 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1041 maj, --, ---, nobody, NEW, "more info for this update" links don't work 17:30:36 <flo> I worked on it a bit today (added a few comments there with what I've found) 17:31:24 <clokep_work> Yes, I saw that. If you have a partial patch then I won't worry about it though. 17:33:46 <flo> I haven't touched any code 17:33:59 <flo> ah the various ideas go in totally different directions 17:36:27 <clokep_work> Yeah it seemed that way when I looked at it. 17:36:33 <clokep_work> If we can just grab an overlay that would be easy though. :) 17:36:50 <flo> s/ah/and/ 17:37:24 <flo> the content handler solution sounds interesting, because it would also catch the cases that we don't know about yet, or that would be introduced in future toolkit changes 17:38:05 <-- rikki has quit (Ping timeout) 17:38:11 <flo> what I dislike about it is that the URL is loaded by Instantbird, which then decides, when it has receive the content type header, that another application should take care of it 17:38:54 <clokep_work> So you load the same page twice. 17:39:00 <clokep_work> That's non-ideal. :( 17:39:09 <flo> only the html file 17:40:46 --> rikki has joined #instantbird 17:41:53 <clokep_work> I guess that's not terrible then. 17:53:29 <flo> there's nothing preventing us to do both ;) 17:54:16 <flo> but I don't think the link from the update dialog is clicked often enough for doubling the request count to be a threat for our servers. 17:54:22 <-- flo has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.1a1pre) 17:55:44 --> gerard-majax has joined #instantbird 18:05:29 <-- mmkmou has left #instantbird () 18:20:25 <-- aleth has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.1a1pre) 18:20:27 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 18:22:06 <-- aleth has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.1a1pre) 18:22:16 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 18:27:51 <-- aleth has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.1a1pre) 18:27:57 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 18:29:24 <-- aleth has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.1a1pre) 18:29:30 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 18:31:38 <aleth> I've been trying to fix a niggling little display bug on Linux 18:31:47 <aleth> http://i.imgur.com/Jx4pp.png 18:31:59 <aleth> and failing miserably due to my lack of CSS skills 18:32:20 <aleth> The bug is the missing line across the top of the conv-top 18:32:31 <aleth> The problem is drawing a line such that it doesnt run across the tab 18:33:01 <aleth> Any ideas? 18:34:37 <-- chrisccoulson has quit (Ping timeout) 18:34:43 <clokep_work> It needs to be the border of the background behind the tabs. 18:34:54 <clokep_work> I haven't been able to get it to work properly in Vertical Tabs. 18:34:57 <clokep_work> Did you check Firefox code? 18:35:16 --> chrisccoulson has joined #instantbird 18:36:07 <aleth> No... I don't know my way around the FF code, it would be like looking for a needle in a haystack 18:36:38 <clokep_work> You'd need to look in tabbrowser.css most likely. 18:36:47 <aleth> So you mean it has to be fixed in instantbird.css rather than conversation.css 18:38:01 <clokep_work> aleth: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/browser/themes/gnomestripe/browser/tabbrowser/ 18:38:07 <aleth> thanks 18:38:52 <clokep_work> aleth: Probably needs to be fixed in http://lxr.instantbird.org/instantbird/source/instantbird/themes/tabbrowser-gnomestripe/ 18:39:19 <aleth> I assume this bug does not exist for Win or Mac 18:39:30 <aleth> or it would be fixed ;) 18:40:30 <aleth> Thanks, I will dig around a bit 18:44:37 <aleth> Hmm, I can't find tabbrowser.css in the FF tree, though it looks like it should be where your link points 18:46:32 <-- aleth has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.1a1pre) 18:46:38 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 18:47:57 <-- aleth has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.1a1pre) 18:48:03 <clokep_work> It could be in browser.css or something Idk. 18:48:03 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 18:48:28 <-- aleth has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.1a1pre) 18:48:32 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 18:54:56 <-- aleth has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.1a1pre) 18:55:01 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 18:56:16 <-- aleth has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.1a1pre) 18:56:20 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 18:57:26 <-- aleth has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.1a1pre) 18:57:31 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 18:59:45 <-- hunsly has quit (Ping timeout) 19:04:42 --> flo has joined #instantbird 19:04:42 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo flo 19:12:10 <-- aleth has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.1a1pre) 19:12:14 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 19:14:31 <-- aleth has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.1a1pre) 19:14:37 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 19:16:31 <-- aleth has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.1a1pre) 19:16:36 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 19:17:33 <-- aleth has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.1a1pre) 19:17:37 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 19:18:20 <-- aleth has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.1a1pre) 19:18:23 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 19:20:03 <-- aleth has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.1a1pre) 19:20:08 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 19:20:38 <aleth> alright, got it :) 19:21:59 <-- aleth has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.1a1pre) 19:22:03 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 19:27:00 <flo> it may be easier to just explore the CSS rules of all elements with DOM inspector 19:27:07 <flo> in both Firefox and Instantbird, to compare 19:27:15 <flo> (that's what I usually do for that kind of bug) 19:27:17 <aleth> I've already fixed it 19:27:39 <aleth> clokep's advice to look in the FF source was great 19:27:51 <flo> cool :) 19:28:39 <aleth> my confusion was due to the FF theme is split up slightly differently to IB 19:32:34 <instantbot> New Instantbird (UI) bug 1058 filed by aletheia2@fastmail.fm. 19:32:36 <-- chrisccoulson has quit (Ping timeout) 19:32:36 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1058 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Horizontal border missing in tab strip 19:37:12 <-- aleth has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.1a1pre) 19:37:25 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 19:37:38 <-- aleth has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.1a1pre) 19:38:03 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 19:38:32 <instantbot> aletheia2@fastmail.fm added attachment 859 to bug 1058. 19:38:34 <instantbot> aletheia2@fastmail.fm requested review from the wind for attachment 859 on bug 1058. 19:38:35 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1058 nor, --, ---, aletheia2, ASSI, Horizontal border missing in tab strip 19:40:13 <aleth> wow, mdn is a much better reference for CSS to the noob than the top google search result (w3schools) 19:44:10 * aleth adds MDN search engine to Firefox 19:44:25 <flo> does it work now? 19:44:38 <aleth> It does for me 19:44:44 <flo> I've been searching "mdc <what I wanted to search>" in google for years now :-D 19:44:47 <clokep_work> aleth: Yes, w3schools is terrible. 19:45:07 <clokep_work> Yeah, I have it in my Firefox search engines as a keyword mdc. :) 19:46:55 --> chrisccoulson has joined #instantbird 19:54:59 <-- jb has quit (Ping timeout) 20:07:28 --> EionRobb has joined #instantbird 20:07:37 <-- chrisccoulson has quit (Ping timeout) 20:26:17 --> jb has joined #instantbird 20:40:02 <-- jb has left #instantbird () 20:42:42 <-- clokep_work has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 20:45:25 <instantbot> New Instantbird (UI) bug 1059 filed by aletheia2@fastmail.fm. 20:45:27 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1059 enh, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Suggestion: Remove dividing line from info area in buddy list and conversation 20:46:16 <instantbot> aletheia2@fastmail.fm added attachment 860 to bug 1059. 20:46:46 <instantbot> aletheia2@fastmail.fm added attachment 861 to bug 1059. 20:50:04 --> chrisccoulson has joined #instantbird 20:57:55 <-- chrisccoulson has quit (Ping timeout) 20:59:46 <-- igorko has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.1a1pre) 21:00:32 <-- vicnet has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.1a1pre) 21:01:28 <-- aleth has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.1a1pre) 21:01:50 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 21:03:25 <-- aleth has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.1a1pre) 21:03:30 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 21:03:46 --> vicnet has joined #instantbird 21:08:58 <instantbot> New Instantbird (UI) bug 1060 filed by aletheia2@fastmail.fm. 21:09:01 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1060 enh, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Suggestion: Remove chat icon on the left of conv-top for MUCs 21:09:38 <instantbot> aletheia2@fastmail.fm added attachment 862 to bug 1060. 21:11:05 <aleth> Should I add review? to those two patches? They are intended as suggestions as they don't fix proper bugs, just change the look a little 21:12:41 <aleth> Personally I think they make for a slightly cleaner theme 21:12:57 <aleth> (but this may be due to the way it appears for me on Linux/KDE) 21:16:19 <-- aleth has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.1a1pre) 21:16:27 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 21:16:40 <flo> aleth: have you noticed you can add an attachment when creating the bug? (that reduces the number of emails sent for each bug report you file with the intent of attaching a patch ;)) 21:17:04 <aleth> flo: I saw that, but there was no 'patch' checkbox 21:17:20 <flo> really? 21:17:22 <aleth> so I thought it might misinterpret it somehow 21:18:04 <flo> when I click the "add an attachment" button, I have a frame labelled "add an attachment" that appears, and contains the "[ ] patch" checkbox 21:18:05 <aleth> ah, I see what I missed: "Show advanced fields" 21:18:19 <flo> ah, ok 21:18:27 <aleth> Missed it cos it was up top 21:18:51 <flo> I guess I've been "advanced" for too long ;) 21:18:56 <aleth> :) 21:19:06 <aleth> You probably get it in emacs 21:19:41 --> jb has joined #instantbird 21:20:17 <aleth> There are another one or two details in the Linux theme I would like to track down in the CSS if I can 21:22:14 <aleth> But those details may only be "wrong" with KDE and correct in Gnome, or worse (OS-theme-dependent) - I will have to check 21:22:54 <flo> I don't think I would like to remove these horizontal lines (on Mac at least). If it really looks better on linux without them I guess we can ifdef 21:23:19 <aleth> I should probably add a screenshot 21:23:25 <flo> I was about to say that 21:23:55 <flo> if you can screenshot before/after and put both in the same image (for easy comparison) like Mic often does that would be great 21:24:09 <aleth> The problem is, it will of course look different again for someone on ubuntu/unity (e.g.) 21:24:18 <aleth> This is hard for me to test atm 21:25:11 <flo> I think the "chat icon" on the conv-top bar was supposed to mean "topic" (= this line in this conversation is a topic, rather than a status message) 21:25:35 <aleth> Right. 21:25:38 <flo> of course no "topic" icon was designed and I took what I had at the time :-D. 21:25:44 <aleth> It is duplicated on the right hand side though, and just takes up space 21:25:53 <flo> I'm not sure it's particularly useful, but it looks quite good (on Mac at least). 21:25:55 <aleth> Especially as topics tend to be loooong ;) 21:26:08 <flo> except on the right hand side it's the protocol icon 21:26:16 <aleth> Yes, that made sense to me 21:26:17 <flo> IRC, 2 bubbles, MUC -> 3 bubbles 21:26:31 <aleth> That carries info 21:26:32 <flo> we could really have a better IRC icon, by the way 21:26:56 <aleth> Is there an established IRC icon? 21:27:04 <flo> I don't think so 21:27:20 <flo> I think someone filed a "too many bubbles" bug 21:28:03 <flo> bug 804 21:28:06 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=804 tri, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Too many bubbles on UI of IRC channels 21:30:12 <-- jb has quit (Ping timeout) 21:30:13 <flo> I wonder if bug 977 should be 1.1-wanted 21:30:16 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=977 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Unread count hard to read on Dock icon 21:30:18 <aleth> I'll add a screenshot of those two suggestions. I can probably do it for gnome2 as well, but not unity or gnome3. The drawbacks of Linux window manager inflation... 21:31:08 <aleth> flo: You are a Mac user - you decide ;) 21:31:13 <flo> I guess we could use red (as proposed in bug 1035 comment 0) for maximum visibility 21:31:16 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1035 nor, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, Update the Instantbird icon to signify an instant messenger 21:33:19 <aleth> Btw on that first patch today, did I select the correct field for review-requested? 21:33:37 <aleth> Wasn't sure about the meaning of ?/+/- 21:35:46 <flo> ? is to request a review (and you should specify the email of the requestee, if you know who should review it) 21:35:49 <flo> + is to grant it 21:35:52 <flo> - is to deny it 21:37:19 <-- ecaron has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.0) 21:50:24 <-- aleth has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.1a1pre) 21:51:22 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 21:52:11 <flo> it really really sucks that facebook arbitrarily decides that some messages of conversations are not IMs but regular messages that are going to be visible only from the website. 21:53:03 <flo> if they wanted to make the XMPP gateway appear broken on purpose, they probably couldn't do better. 21:54:35 <-- aleth has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.1a1pre) 21:54:57 <EionRobb> which conversations? 21:55:04 <EionRobb> you talking about the group ones 21:55:06 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 21:58:40 <flo> EionRobb: regular IMs, with a single person, when the other person is talking from the website. 22:00:12 <EionRobb> oh really? interesting 22:02:24 <flo> EionRobb: also, the conversations are flooded with unsignificant (and impossible!) presence changes 22:02:54 <flo> for example the conversation goes like: A is now offline. A starts typing. A: "blabla" A is now available. 22:03:51 <flo> facebook XMPP buddies seem randomly offline for a few seconds, even while they are talking and their messages are delivered 22:07:59 <aleth> Do they not like clients that are not their own? 22:10:45 <flo> they may just be incompetent ;) 22:22:30 <-- aleth has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.1a1pre) 22:22:47 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 22:29:52 <-- flo has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.1a1pre) 22:31:53 <-- aleth has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.1a1pre) 22:32:35 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 22:33:03 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 22:33:03 * ChanServ sets mode +h clokep 22:37:36 <clokep> flo aleth There's no "real" IRC icon I've found (I spent some time looking a few months ago). 22:38:09 <clokep> And for bug 977, what does like Mail.app use for new messages? We should just use the same thing. 22:38:12 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=977 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Unread count hard to read on Dock icon 22:55:54 <instantbot> aletheia2@fastmail.fm added attachment 863 to bug 1059. 22:55:56 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1059 enh, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Suggestion: Remove dividing line from info area in buddy list and conversation 22:59:17 <instantbot> aletheia2@fastmail.fm added attachment 864 to bug 1059. 22:59:19 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1059 enh, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Suggestion: Remove dividing line from info area in buddy list and conversation 23:00:59 <instantbot> aletheia2@fastmail.fm added attachment 865 to bug 1059. 23:05:44 <aleth> Making screenshots takes longer than patching the code :| 23:17:21 <clokep> Patch backend code. ;) 23:18:32 <aleth> I guess :D but those little UI details were bugging me for some reason 23:38:14 <clokep> Yeah, UI is kind of rewarding. :) 23:59:06 --> ironhead has joined #instantbird