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11:44:26 <clokep> Hmmmm....apparently chat.facebook.com can pop up with a notification when you log into a new location...sounds like a nickserv killer thing to me. ;)
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12:02:41 <flo> ah? I've never seen that :)
12:03:34 <clokep> Log into Facebook chat at an airport. ;)
12:03:46 <clokep> (Or a location you've never been to before.)
12:04:11 <clokep> Speaking of which...I'd love a flag I could start Instantbird w/ that will only initiate SSL connections. :P
12:04:43 <flo> or use an ssh tunnel? ;)
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12:26:45 <gerard-majax> probably the stuff that notifies you that you connect from a different place than previously
12:26:58 <gerard-majax> and asks for confirmation to avoid phishing consequences
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14:35:01 <ChrisLE> Hi, I have made an addon for Firefox, Thunderbird and Seamonkey for based on Gecko ver. >= 2. Now I have read about instantbird and would like to convert it for instantbird. I have add the line with the appId, min and max version to the install rdf file and  I have adapted the chrome.manifest. So far so good, I can open my addon with the menuentry  -> tools -> MyAddonName. But now I read out the installed addons with a Gecko 2 function c
14:37:02 <flo> ChrisLE: your message was cut after "But now I read out the installed addons with a Gecko 2 function c"
14:37:09 <flo> ChrisLE: hello :)
14:38:53 <ChrisLE> oh ok mom
14:39:15 <ChrisLE> But now I read out the installed addons with a Gecko 2 function called: Components.utils.import("resource://gre/modules/AddonManager.jsm"); Application.getExtensions(func); 
14:39:20 <ChrisLE> But it doesnt work, I doesnt see my addons, and I cant see any errors (without debugger its very difficult for me to see whats the problem). Now I thought all gecko 2 based apps have the same functionality to get access?
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14:43:24 <flo> so is your add-on installed? is it visible in the add-on manager?
14:43:34 <ChrisLE> of course
14:43:36 <ChrisLE> and I can open it
14:44:00 <ChrisLE> the options too
14:45:56 <flo> so what are you trying to do that doesn't work as you expect?
14:49:41 <ChrisLE> I have a xul treeviewcontrol and that will be filled with an arrayModel with Addonname, version, icon, and other infos that I need. Before the treeview can be filled I have to read out the addons with Components.utils.import("resource://gre/modules/AddonManager.jsm"); Application.getExtensions(func); (Gecko 2 functionallity) But when I open my addon window I see an empty treeview the button to "restart application" is ok but I cant see a
14:50:38 <flo> we currently don't implement the FUEL API (see bug 474 for some discussion about this), so the "Application" object doesn't exist
14:50:42 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=474 enh, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Port FUEL/STEEL/SMILE to Instantbird
14:50:59 <ChrisLE> ahhhh ok thx :)
14:52:19 <flo> ChrisLE: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/toolkit/components/exthelper/extApplication.js#624
14:52:38 <flo> that's the Application.getExtensions implementation, I think you can just copy/paste it
14:53:36 <ChrisLE> but you will implement soon/later more APIs?
14:54:36 <flo> there's never been a strong need for FUEL in Instantbird (and it doesn't seem to evolve much even in Firefox these days), so I'm not sure we will ever include it.
14:55:58 <ChrisLE> hm ok, I can implement the js but it will unnecessarily boat my addon so thats not a nice option for me. But I can wait to see what will coming :)
14:56:23 <flo> *nothing* is coming about this.
14:56:42 <flo> we may accept a patch if someone ever feels like working on that, but nobody's currently working on this.
14:57:15 <ChrisLE> sry to hear
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15:03:59 <ChrisLE> is there a debug console for errors that will be thrown? I know when there were a console I have seen the error: "Application is not defined" or smth like that.
15:04:20 <flo> Tools->Error console
15:05:00 <ChrisLE> lol ok sry I see, i was blind
15:06:35 <ChrisLE> and there is my error :D thx for your help
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18:08:51 <clokep> I don't understand why the FUEL interface isn't just part of toolkit. :-/
18:21:03 <instantbot> clokep@gmail.com added attachment 845 to bug 1022.
18:21:04 <instantbot> clokep@gmail.com cancelled review?(florian@instantbird .org) for attachment 838 on bug 1022.
18:21:05 <instantbot> clokep@gmail.com requested review from florian@instantbird .org for attachment 845 on bug 1022.
18:21:06 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1022 nor, --, ---, clokep, ASSI, Twitter RT display/RTs are cut off by character limit
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19:47:19 <flo> clokep: well, maybe we should file a bug for that (FUEL in toolkit)? (if there isn't one already, that is)
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19:52:51 <flo> there's https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=455514 about it being missing in Fennec.
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20:30:44 <Mook_as> got disconnected in the middle, but did you want https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=407963 ?
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20:33:21 <flo> Mook_as: I would like it to work "out of the box" ;)
20:42:34 <flo> hmm, the latest patch in bug 1022 looks good, but how can I test it?
20:42:37 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1022 nor, --, ---, clokep, ASSI, Twitter RT display/RTs are cut off by character limit
20:43:08 <flo> I'm currently tracking the "firefox" keyword and waiting for someone to RT a tweet that's already 140 characters long and contains entities but... that seems to take a long time to happen :-/
20:46:38 <flo> I received one :)
20:47:45 <aleth> Q - seeing as twitter automatically shortens URLs, shouldn't it be allowed to post messages >140 characters if the excess is due to a URL?
20:48:01 <flo> yes
20:48:22 <flo> we should implement the full twitter character count algorithm
20:53:56 <flo> the second part of https://dev.twitter.com/docs/tco-url-wrapper/best-practices talks about this
20:58:45 <instantbot> New Instantbird (UI) bug 1050 filed by aletheia2@fastmail.fm.
20:58:46 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1050 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Take account of URL shortening in twitter character count
21:06:01 <instantbot> florian@instantbird.org granted review for attachment 845 on bug 1022.
21:06:03 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1022 nor, --, ---, clokep, ASSI, Twitter RT display/RTs are cut off by character limit
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21:23:24 <flo> I'm still not sure of what should go in the tab context menu w.r.t closing tabs/putting the conversation on hold :(
21:24:51 <aleth> Isn't hiding like a mute button? does that help?
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22:24:11 <flo> more opinions on bug 990 would be welcome :)
22:24:14 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=990 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Closing a conversation window with unread messages should give a hint about the "hidden conversation
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22:29:51 <instantbot> florian@instantbird.org added attachment 846 to bug 981.
22:29:53 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=981 enh, --, ---, florian, NEW, Context menu for "hidden conversations"-list items.
22:31:33 <instantbot> florian@instantbird.org set the Resolution field on bug 1022 to FIXED.
22:31:35 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1022 nor, --, 1.1a1, clokep, RESO FIXED, Twitter RT display/RTs are cut off by character limit
22:37:12 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/004a101520b2 - Patrick Cloke - Bug 1022 - Twitter RT display/RTs are cut off by character limit, r=fqueze.
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