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There's also two others ones (GSoC: https://github.com/vpj/xmpp-js/ and one that I've put very little work into: http://hg.instantbird.org/experiments/file/85ea3456f80e/xbox-live%40patrick.cloke) 01:21:59 <clokep_work> The xmpp one works, but it's a bit unorganized, the other one probably isn't worth looking at...but that's all of our resources. :) 01:23:36 <EionRobb> neat 01:25:15 <clokep_work> The Xbox Live one is me messing around with adding things to the buddy list mostly, it doesn't have any real "protocol" behind it. 01:31:31 <-- sander85 has quit (Ping timeout) 01:31:51 --> ironhead has joined #instantbird 01:32:20 <EionRobb> what kind of things get added? 01:34:17 --> sander85 has joined #instantbird 01:35:12 <clokep_work> Your Xbox Live friends, but it's very very unfinished, I think it's hard coded with some fake names, etc. 01:35:56 <-- micahg has quit (Quit: Ex-Chat) 01:36:17 --> micahg has joined #instantbird 01:40:00 <EionRobb> is it not part of the msn protocol? 01:40:15 <-- micahg has quit (Input/output error) 01:43:30 <clokep_work> If you sign into MSN from your Xbox you can IM people when they sign into Xbox LIVE. 01:44:18 <clokep_work> I wanted to play with buddies/tooltips so it would show your "gamercard" in the tooltip essentially and whether you were online or not (which I don't think is possible btw) and of course be able to send an XBL message if possible, but that's definitely not possible. 01:44:32 <clokep_work> Microsoft doesn't have any public API for interacting w/ XBL unforutnately. 01:56:47 --> micahg has joined #instantbird 01:59:19 <EionRobb> I wonder how raptr do it then... maybe they're just screenscraping too? 02:00:05 --> Mook has joined #instantbird 02:03:43 <clokep_work> raptr? I'm not familiar. 02:03:53 <clokep_work> You can log into the websites (xbox.com) and screenscrape from it. 02:03:59 <clokep_work> But I'm lazy. ;) 02:04:25 <clokep_work> There's a way to see what has been played recently, etc. etc. 02:04:32 <clokep_work> But getting online status / friends list isn't very easy. 02:05:18 <clokep_work> (There actually is also apparently an API, but it's closed...) 02:08:01 <-- werwolf has quit (Ping timeout) 02:31:45 <-- micahg has quit (Input/output error) 02:34:57 --> micahg has joined #instantbird 02:36:05 <-- EionRobb has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 02:39:06 --> EionRobb has joined #instantbird 02:39:59 <-- EionRobb has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 02:42:34 <-- clokep_work has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 02:46:46 <-- ironhead has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.0) 02:46:56 --> EionRobb has joined #instantbird 03:59:34 <-- EionRobb has quit (Ping timeout) 04:02:56 --> EionRobb has joined #instantbird 04:05:37 <-- EionRobb has quit (Ping timeout) 04:08:42 --> EionRobb has joined #instantbird 04:19:09 --> FeuerFliege has joined #instantbird 04:22:36 <-- FeuerFliege has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.1a1pre) 04:31:17 --> FeuerFliege has joined #instantbird 04:44:30 <-- FeuerFliege has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.1a1pre) 04:44:33 --> FeuerFliege has joined #instantbird 04:46:37 <-- FeuerFliege has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.1a1pre) 04:46:39 --> FeuerFliege has joined #instantbird 04:51:19 <-- FeuerFliege has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.1a1pre) 04:52:21 --> FeuerFliege has joined #instantbird 05:19:03 --> mistraven has joined #instantbird 05:24:16 <-- Mook has quit (Connection reset by peer) 05:25:22 --> Mook has joined #instantbird 05:37:37 <-- mistraven has left #instantbird () 06:04:52 <-- EionRobb has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 06:30:03 <-- Mook has quit (Ping timeout) 06:30:58 --> Mook has joined #instantbird 06:39:10 --> waynenguyen has joined #instantbird 06:40:18 <-- Mook has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.87-rdmsoft [XULRunner 6.0/20110811165603]) 06:48:56 --> jb has joined #instantbird 06:55:37 <-- Even1 has left #instantbird () 07:13:02 <-- jb has quit (Ping timeout) 07:19:06 --> hunsly has joined #instantbird 07:30:53 <-- waynenguyen has quit (Ping timeout) 07:31:21 --> waynenguyen has joined #instantbird 07:43:08 <-- waynenguyen has quit (Ping timeout) 07:44:21 --> waynenguyen has joined #instantbird 07:57:28 --> jb has joined #instantbird 08:12:43 --> Even has joined #instantbird 08:12:43 * ChanServ sets mode +o Even 08:15:08 <-- Even has left #instantbird () 08:16:26 <-- devfil has quit (Client exited) 08:25:27 <-- waynenguyen has quit (Ping timeout) 08:26:50 --> Even has joined #instantbird 08:26:50 * ChanServ sets mode +o Even 08:29:14 --> Andrey has joined #instantbird 08:36:46 --> Mad_Maks has joined #instantbird 08:37:32 <-- FeuerFliege has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.1a1pre) 08:37:36 --> FeuerFliege has joined #instantbird 09:06:20 --> flo has joined #instantbird 09:06:20 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo flo 09:18:24 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 09:18:24 * ChanServ sets mode +h Mic 09:24:28 --> mmkmou has joined #instantbird 09:27:39 <-- Even has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.1a1pre) 09:31:08 --> Even has joined #instantbird 09:31:08 * ChanServ sets mode +o Even 10:00:48 <-- Mad_Maks has quit (Client exited) 10:16:21 --> clokep_work has joined #instantbird 10:16:21 * ChanServ sets mode +h clokep_work 10:16:56 <flo> hello 10:17:04 <flo> I'm working on bug 981. 10:17:07 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=981 enh, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Context menu for "hidden conversations"-list items. 10:17:25 <flo> I hesitate between "Leave conversation" and "Close conversation", any opinion? 10:18:27 <flo> "Leave" sounds better to me for chat rooms but is a bit odd for private conversations, "close" seems more generic but doesn't reflect that others may see the user as leaving 10:19:54 <clokep_work> "Close & Leave Conversation"? ;) 10:20:37 <flo> "You are boring, I'll go make some coffee instead of reading your rants"? :-D A bit too long :-/. 10:27:58 <clokep_work> Perhaps hard to translate too. :( 10:28:24 <Mic> "End Conversation" ? 10:28:43 <Mic> might be a bit harsh, though ;) 10:30:24 <clokep_work> No, harsh would be "Terminate Conversation" :P 10:30:59 <clokep_work> Does the context menu of like tabs in 1.0 have anything about closing conversation? If so, we can just reuse that text. 10:31:09 <clokep_work> (Or the tooltip over the 'x' button) 10:31:17 <flo> clokep_work: it says "Close tab" 10:31:20 <flo> which doesn't help us 10:31:44 <clokep_work> Ah, no it doesn't. :-/ 10:32:07 <flo> I was also wondering if we should replace "Close tab" with either "Hide conversation" or "Close conversation" depending on what will happen if the tab is closed 10:32:21 <flo> and we will definitely add a "Leave conversation" for chat rooms 10:32:34 <clokep_work> I don't like "Leave conversation" because you could Leave a room without closing the conversation by parting. 10:32:53 <clokep_work> So I think "Close conversation" is really the only option. 10:33:08 <flo> I'm also wondering if we should make the hidden conversation feature an option (on by default) exposed in the Tabs prefpane, or just remove the previous behavior. 10:33:19 <Mic> Leave is less ambiguous than Close in my opinion 10:33:19 <flo> hmm, that makes sense 10:33:20 <-- Andrey has quit (Quit: ) 10:34:14 <flo> and now I'm trying to change the "Start a conversation" context menu item of contacts to "Show conversation" when a conversation already exists for that contact ^^ 10:34:33 <Mic> You can close the window/tab without leave the conversation/channel that you were in 10:34:35 <Mic> *leaving 10:39:06 <Mic> clokep_work: why do you think that closing the window feels like "leaving the room"? You're still in the rooms list when you think about it .. so you haven't actually left it. 10:39:51 <clokep_work> Mic: I'm talking about the context menu for conversation on the list... 10:40:19 <clokep_work> "Leave room" would be inappropriate, because you can actually leave a room without closing the conversation. 10:40:23 <FeuerFliege> name it as you want, I have to translate it anyway ^^ 10:41:43 <FeuerFliege> But I like close, even if it is leave the room first and than close item 10:41:51 <Mic> I don't understand what you mean by that? If there are unread messages maybe and the item in the conversations list persists while the room is parted already maybe? 10:42:55 * flo is now completely confused :-S 10:43:13 <clokep_work> That's fine, but it's a different thing than closing a conversation. 10:43:37 <clokep_work> Fully closing one (I.e. removing it from the list and "parting", whatever that means for a protocol). 10:46:19 <Mic> http://typewith.me/zOZsUPJy8E , maybe that's more suitable for this job? 10:56:35 <flo> should we rename "Show offline buddies" to "Show offline contacts"? 10:59:05 * flo thinks yes 10:59:30 <clokep_work> I think so, didn't we wish to rename everything from "Buddy" to "Contact" at one point? 11:00:05 <Mic> Yes, sounds good 11:05:13 <flo> lunch time 11:05:45 <flo> I have a first iteration of a patch for bug 981 11:05:48 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=981 enh, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Context menu for "hidden conversations"-list items. 11:05:57 <flo> I would like to land all the string changes related to hidden conversations at once :). 11:13:30 * Mic is away, preparing lunch. Don't count on me during the next minutes ;) 11:15:24 --> hicham has joined #instantbird 11:46:58 <-- jb has quit (Ping timeout) 11:47:28 --> jb has joined #instantbird 11:57:11 --> Mad_Maks has joined #instantbird 11:58:06 <instantbot> florian@instantbird.org added attachment 843 to bug 981. 11:58:08 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=981 enh, --, ---, florian, NEW, Context menu for "hidden conversations"-list items. 12:00:58 <FeuerFliege> I updated my girlfriends instandbird to the latest nightly and showed her the Hidden Conversation feature. She tried to drag and drop tabs to the section. Perhaps that is something that could be added? 12:02:11 <-- jb has quit (Connection reset by peer) 12:03:15 <clokep_work> Sounds kind of reasonable. 12:03:44 <clokep_work> (And is possible.) 12:03:59 <clokep_work> There's a bug somewhere about making things more drag and droppable in general, but you could file one for htis case. 12:05:20 <flo> hmm, it could even work both ways 12:05:53 <flo> dragging a hidden conversation to the tab bar could be useful too :) 12:06:00 <flo> FeuerFliege: mind filing a bug? :) 12:07:22 <FeuerFliege> no, already at it 12:09:39 <flo> the pattern "show some new software toy you just made to a women, the first thing she attempts to do with it has never been implemented or even thought of, even though it's obvious" is surprisingly common. We should probably attempt to get more female nightly testers ;). 12:09:44 <-- clokep_work has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 12:09:52 --> clokep_work has joined #instantbird 12:09:52 * ChanServ sets mode +h clokep_work 12:10:32 <clokep_work> Haha flo, sounds like you could make a psychology experiment out of that. :P 12:12:04 <lewellyn> flo: i'm working on getting my girlfriend to run it alongside adium ;) 12:12:14 <instantbot> New Instantbird (UI) bug 1048 filed by do.not.deliver@gmx.de. 12:12:21 --> instantbot has joined #instantbird 12:12:21 topic changed by sand.mozilla.org to "Ask questions about Instantbird (http://www.instantbird.com) here|Get Instantbird 1.0 while it's hot! :) |News: http://blog.instantbird.org/ |Nightlies: http://nightly.instantbird.im/ (testing purpose only) |IRC logs: http://log.bezut.info/ |Pastebin: http://pastebin.instantbird.org/" 12:12:21 * ChanServ sets mode +v instantbot 12:12:39 <-- Mic has quit (Ping timeout) 12:12:40 <flo> FeuerFliege: hmm, is it instantbot that hates you, or the opposite? ;) 12:13:28 <FeuerFliege> flo: and I did not use ââ or »« this time ⦠12:13:54 <FeuerFliege> maybe the ellipsis 12:14:32 <lewellyn> i take it FeuerFliege is a mac user ;) 12:14:40 <FeuerFliege> lewellyn: NOK 12:14:42 <FeuerFliege> NO! 12:15:12 <lewellyn> mac users tend to use more of the "extended character set" than most :) 12:16:25 <FeuerFliege> lewellyn: I use a special ergonomic keyboard layout. It has four modifiers and over 6 layers filled with all the good stuff 12:16:38 <lewellyn> i have a compose key 12:16:45 <FeuerFliege> http://neo-layout.org 12:16:46 <lewellyn> ;) 12:16:55 <FeuerFliege> lewellyn: I can compose, too! 12:17:04 <lewellyn> unfortunately, i'm on windows atm, so it does silly things :( 12:17:05 <FeuerFliege> lewellyn: kinda unique for windows 12:17:20 <FeuerFliege> ⺠12:18:00 <lewellyn> do you have <Compose> <C> <C> <C> <P> on there? :) 12:18:19 <FeuerFliege> no. â¹ 12:19:17 <FeuerFliege> there is a pretty hard limit in the keyboard architecture. I am limited to <compose> <foo> <bar> 12:19:44 <lewellyn> i think there's all the new unicode emoji on compose sequences now, too. 12:20:10 <lewellyn> i bet instantbot would hate those :D 12:21:15 <FeuerFliege> I changed form Miranda-IM to instantbird, because it is the only IM client that supports all modifiers that the neo-layout provides. 12:30:31 <-- clokep_work has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 12:49:23 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 12:49:24 * ChanServ sets mode +h Mic 12:54:13 <Mic> FeuerFliege: bug 286 has ideas on dragging contacts to conversation windows by the way. Maybe you're interested in this as well. 12:54:16 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=286 enh, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Drag & drop of buddies 12:59:19 --> ecaron has joined #instantbird 12:59:45 <ecaron> Is there a good place for me to upload shares files for the group? 12:59:46 --> mikk_s has joined #instantbird 12:59:51 <-- mikk_s has left #instantbird () 13:00:29 <ecaron> Also, how should this tweet be responded to: http://twitter.com/#!/dicksforeyes/status/117034716326146049 13:01:12 <flo> ecaron: I've no idea of what bug he's talking about. 13:01:53 <flo> what are "shares files" exactly? 13:06:13 <lewellyn> what a username 13:09:51 <-- Mad_Maks has left #instantbird () 13:18:05 --> jb has joined #instantbird 13:20:27 <-- ecaron has left #instantbird () 13:25:43 <-- Mic has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.1a1pre) 13:25:54 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 13:25:54 * ChanServ sets mode +h Mic 13:29:16 --> ecaron has joined #instantbird 13:30:58 <-- hicham has quit (Client exited) 13:38:50 --> Even1 has joined #instantbird 13:48:50 <Mic> Should have parted MUCs have a "Rejoin" context menu item? 13:49:57 <-- Even1 has quit (Ping timeout) 13:50:21 --> Even1 has joined #instantbird 13:50:23 <flo> maybe, but I don't think we need that for 1.1 13:51:16 <-- chrisccoulson has quit (Quit: Ex-Chat) 13:53:27 <-- rikki1 has quit (Ping timeout) 13:56:23 --> rikki has joined #instantbird 13:59:35 --> chrisccoulson has joined #instantbird 14:03:44 <FeuerFliege> and again ⦠does someone have problems with facebook? 14:05:13 <instantbot> New Instantbird (UI) bug 1049 filed by benediktp@ymail.com. 14:05:15 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1049 enh, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Context menu of hidden conversations should allow to rejoin parted MUCs 14:05:34 <Mic> Yes, especially after Mr. Zukcerberg's latest F8 announcements ;) 14:05:38 <FeuerFliege> I get a resource conflict sometimes 14:05:43 <FeuerFliege> Mic: livebook 14:05:49 <FeuerFliege> lifebook 14:06:08 <Mic> Maybe I'm just too old for this ;) 14:06:39 <FeuerFliege> right, just Google+ then, hu? 14:11:27 <flo> Mic: why only for hidden conversations? 14:12:32 <Mic> You think for normal tabs as well? 14:13:05 <Mic> Isn't there a more obvious way to do that then from the context menu? 14:13:39 <Mic> e.g. replacing the input box with a Rejoin button if the conversation was parted (or reconnect if its account was disconnected)? 14:14:33 <Mic> I need to go, have a nice day 14:14:37 <-- Mic has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.1a1pre) 14:31:21 --> hicham has joined #instantbird 14:45:07 <-- hicham has quit (Broken pipe) 15:11:00 <-- FeuerFliege has quit (Ping timeout) 15:12:46 --> FeuerFliege has joined #instantbird 15:18:15 --> igorko has joined #instantbird 15:25:30 --> hicham has joined #instantbird 15:26:08 <-- FeuerFliege has quit (Ping timeout) 15:30:08 <-- hicham has quit (Connection reset by peer) 15:58:17 --> clokep_work has joined #instantbird 15:58:17 * ChanServ sets mode +h clokep_work 15:58:57 --> werwolf has joined #instantbird 16:00:04 <-- ecaron has quit (Ping timeout) 16:01:12 <clokep_work> Hello. :) 16:03:33 --> Andrey has joined #instantbird 16:06:50 --> Mook_as has joined #instantbird 16:16:18 --> myk has joined #instantbird 16:39:19 --> gerard-majax has joined #instantbird 16:41:17 <-- gerard-majax has quit (Ping timeout) 16:43:00 --> ecaron has joined #instantbird 16:46:41 --> FeuerFliege has joined #instantbird 16:54:56 <-- hunsly has quit (Ping timeout) 17:06:20 <-- jb has left #instantbird () 17:07:37 <flo> "Firefox 7 [...]moves to RELEASED on September 27, 2011 " (https://wiki.mozilla.org/Releases/) 17:07:37 <flo> There's no way we can release 1.1 before that. Shouldn't we switch to Mozilla 7 ASAP to have some time to hunt regressions? 17:09:40 <clokep_work> Yes, if we're going to use 7. 17:11:43 <flo> I'll try to work on that this evening 17:13:57 <flo> we should also check in our list of 1.1 bugs what needs string changes and give priority to that (or clearly decide that it's too late for this release for some of these bugs) 17:14:53 <flo> Back later 17:14:55 <-- flo has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.1a1pre) 17:41:25 --> devfil has joined #instantbird 17:42:22 <clokep_work> bug 981, bug 985, I think are the only ones w/ string changes? At least on my really quick look. 17:42:26 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=981 enh, --, ---, florian, NEW, Context menu for "hidden conversations"-list items. 17:42:27 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=985 enh, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Add "Leave conversation" to the context menu of tabs 17:43:18 <-- Andrey has quit (Quit: ) 18:01:47 <-- devfil has quit (Client exited) 18:07:56 <-- mmkmou has quit (Ping timeout) 18:28:55 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 18:32:49 <-- ecaron has left #instantbird () 18:38:51 --> gerard-majax has joined #instantbird 18:53:42 <FeuerFliege> and basically every text about hidden conversation. It is not possible to localize them yet. 18:54:39 <-- clokep_work has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 19:24:31 --> ecaron has joined #instantbird 19:27:07 <-- ecaron has quit (Ping timeout) 19:32:20 <aleth> "/me is not a supported command." -- but it is! or was yesterday ;) 19:32:33 <aleth> in fact "/raw /me ..." still works 19:35:05 <-- igorko has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.1a1pre) 19:36:40 --> chrisccoulson_ has joined #instantbird 19:36:43 --> clokep_work has joined #instantbird 19:36:43 * ChanServ sets mode +h clokep_work 19:37:45 <-- chrisccoulson has quit (Ping timeout) 19:38:27 <clokep_work> aleth: This was fixed in last night's nightly. 19:39:07 <aleth> hmm I thought I had the latest one 19:39:11 <aleth> was there a build problem? 19:39:40 <aleth> ...yes 19:39:45 <aleth> that explains it 19:39:56 <clokep_work> Idk. I have crappy internet right now. 19:40:09 <clokep_work> Ah, yeah. Linux/Mac failed last night. 19:46:15 --> flo has joined #instantbird 19:46:15 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo flo 19:48:02 <flo> bug 990 has a string too 19:48:05 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=990 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Closing a conversation window with unread messages should give a hint about the "hidden conversation 19:48:40 <flo> bug 976 and bug 1021 have strings. But I think it's too late for them. 19:48:43 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=976 enh, --, ---, clokep, ASSI, Support Microsoft Office Communicator protocol (SIPE) 19:48:44 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1021 maj, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Replace unsupported libpurple QQ with libqq-pidgin 19:49:48 <clokep_work> Yeah, I don't think I'll get around to SIPE this cycle. 19:53:51 <aleth> Already a lot of goodies lined up for 1.1... 19:59:05 <flo> I also think it's already good enough to deserve to be shipped 20:02:03 --> igorko has joined #instantbird 20:38:56 <-- Mook_as has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.87-rdmsoft [XULRunner 1.9.2.13/20101203074205]) 20:39:49 <-- clokep_work has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 20:40:04 --> clokep_work has joined #instantbird 20:40:05 * ChanServ sets mode +h clokep_work 20:40:08 <-- myk has quit (Ping timeout) 20:40:15 <-- clokep_work has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 20:40:33 --> clokep_work has joined #instantbird 20:40:34 * ChanServ sets mode +h clokep_work 20:53:05 --> mmkmou has joined #instantbird 20:54:53 <-- mmkmou has quit (Ping timeout) 20:59:40 --> linuxwizard has joined #instantbird 21:23:25 * FeuerFliege no gusta? 21:25:56 <FeuerFliege> flo: will you push all Hidden conversations strings at once? 21:26:08 <flo> I think so 21:26:44 <FeuerFliege> ok, I just wondered 21:27:39 <FeuerFliege> will it be called instantbird 1.1 or will it instanbird 2? 21:28:07 <flo> I think it will be 1.1 21:28:36 <clokep_work> I'm on board for 1.1. :) 21:29:38 <flo> we said we would release at the end of the month 21:30:16 <flo> does September 29th (Thursday!) sound possible, or should we admit that it's already missed, and release a week later? 21:31:17 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 21:31:17 * ChanServ sets mode +h Mic 21:31:17 <clokep_work> Probably mostly depends on translations? 21:32:14 <flo> releasing on the 29th means we need to do the (last) release candidate on the 28th, so the translations need to be ready for the 27th (or at the very last 28 morning). 21:32:18 <flo> That seems very short :( 21:32:38 <FeuerFliege> clokep_work: there wasnât mucht to translate up to now ⦠21:32:39 <aleth> Not to forget, enable hidden conversations needs a preferences tickbox? 21:32:43 <flo> even if we string freeze tomorrow, that leaves only 3 days for translations 21:33:21 --> myk has joined #instantbird 21:33:45 <flo> I don't know how far behind translators are. I know we have ~5 locales that are (almost) up to date, missing at most a handful of strings 21:34:24 <flo> it's stupid that we get the data only when translators push changes to their translation 21:34:43 <flo> we would need to produce it for each change of the en-US repository + of the locale 21:35:09 <flo> hmm, we also need to update the website (at the very least write some release notes, and let interested translators translate them...) 21:35:48 <clokep_work> Not that I'm expecting big changes on the Mozilla side, but it would also be only two days after Firefox 7 is released, if we want to take that into account. 21:36:02 <clokep_work> We practically have release notes in the status update I've never posted. :P 21:36:08 <Mic> Would another week give the opportunity to ship with moz7? 21:36:17 <flo> as that as I can tell, your blog post isn't translated ;) 21:36:31 <flo> Mic: we will ship moz7 21:36:34 <clokep_work> Oh, sure. It's translated into English. :P 21:37:00 <Mic> I thought we're only on moz6 at the moment... 21:37:07 * Mic goes and checks. 21:37:10 <flo> well, I'm about to push a changeset to change that 21:37:18 <Mic> :) 21:37:18 <flo> next nightlies should be on moz7 21:37:31 <Mic> Moz7 has the nice new things to extend the add-ons manager iirc 21:37:42 <flo> cool :) 21:37:49 <flo> and a more usable about:memory too I think 21:37:54 <Mic> Something I considered using if I ever manage to get something done on the content preview extension 21:38:04 <clokep_work> So each time we change that I have to manually |hg update -c| (or something like that) on my /mozilla directory, is there a way to automate that at all? 21:38:24 <flo> are there new developers we need to add to the credits dialog? 21:38:26 <Mic> I was thinking to include the "preview providers" like greasemonkey scripts are (with a separate category on the add-ons manager) 21:39:20 <clokep_work> :) 21:39:21 <clokep_work> That sounds nice. 21:39:27 <flo> clokep_work: if you haven't hacked your mozilla tree (and don't mind overriding any changes), you can |python client.py checkout --clean|. That's what buildbot does 21:40:22 <flo> I meant to do some python/hg hacking to automate the change by detecting that there's no local change (so no possible conflict) but I've never actually written it 21:41:00 <flo> is anybody willing to help for bug 979 and bug 986 ? 21:41:03 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=979 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Fix look for "Hidden conversations" /"Contacts" contact list sections and their headers 21:41:04 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=986 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, OS specific theming for "unread count" 21:42:12 <flo> hmm, is there a mozilla7 for developers page somewhere that I should read to double check that nothing is scary before pushing the update to nightlies? 21:42:22 <Mic> Give me a moment.. 21:42:51 <Mic> Is the Fx 7 page good enough? https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Firefox_7_for_developers 21:44:25 <-- clokep_work has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 21:44:32 <flo> "text-overflow is now supported." :) 21:47:20 <flo> "The Components.utils.unload() method lets you unload JavaScript code modules" is important too :) 21:48:27 <-- FeuerFliege has quit (Ping timeout) 21:50:46 <Mic> I like this one, too: "Extension options can now be displayed inside the Add-on Manager for both restartless and traditional extensions." 21:52:09 <flo> it's great too, but you already mentioned it a few minutes ago ;) 21:52:22 <flo> I look forward to using it :) 21:52:36 <Mic> No, I meant the extensibility of the add-ons manager with extra categories back then 21:53:10 <flo> ah, ok. I read what I liked then :-D 21:54:31 <flo> hmm, I have some new warnings in the error console 21:54:45 <Mic> http://img.techsplurge.com/2010/10/scriptish.png 21:54:55 <Mic> This sort of thing is what I referred to earlier 21:55:53 <flo> I understood, I had just read too quickly the first time :) 22:01:15 <Mic> https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=986#c0 22:01:17 <instantbot> Bug 986 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, OS specific theming for "unread count" 22:01:43 <Mic> What's the "updates count number" you mentioned there? 22:02:39 <Mic> Could you send me a screenshot .. I haven't found anything yet? (Looking for iTunes + different sets of these words there with Google) 22:03:30 <Mic> Wait .. this maybe: http://www.pleasantsoftware.com/birdie/de/images/iTunesAppsUpdate.png ? 22:03:30 <instantbot> florian@instantbird.org added attachment 844 to bug 986. 22:03:32 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=986 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, OS specific theming for "unread count" 22:03:46 <flo> Mic: yes, that was it 22:09:21 <Mic> Selected contacts/conversations don't have the blue background as it is on the item in the screenshot that I posted? 22:10:48 <Mic> Is it grey, like here: http://www.instantbird.com/images/screenshots/macosx-smart-contacts.png ? 22:17:01 <instantbot> florian@instantbird.org set the Resolution field on bug 1001 to FIXED. 22:17:03 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1001 min, --, 1.1a1, florian, RESO FIXED, New messages merge with existing context bubbles 22:17:22 <flo> yes, it's grey 22:17:43 <flo> the nicklist looks like your screenshot, w.r.t backgrounds 22:18:48 <Mic> Ok, I'll try to find something decent tomorrow 22:19:39 <Mic> Good night 22:19:45 <-- Mic has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.1a1pre) 22:19:46 <flo> Good night :) 22:21:43 --> clokep_work has joined #instantbird 22:21:43 * ChanServ sets mode +h clokep_work 22:23:00 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/e20f66fc88fc - Florian Quèze - Update Mozilla to version 7.0b6. 22:23:01 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/33ad74c11b8c - Florian Quèze - Bug 1001 - New messages shouldn't be merged into a context bubbles. 22:23:49 <clokep_work> Well then. I'm still here. 22:25:36 <flo> I was saying good night to Mic (but too late). I'm still here, but should go to bed soon too 22:26:43 <flo> I wonder how much of that sw:1.1 list we can get done tomorrow :-D. 22:27:46 <flo> none of these bugs look like it would take more than an hour to address (except maybe one or two), but we still have a significant number of them 22:28:57 <clokep_work> Well my flight was moved and I'm not getting in until very late now so I don't think I'll finish anything up tonight/tomorrow. :-/ 22:29:34 <flo> are you flying home? 22:29:51 <clokep_work> Yes. 22:29:51 <clokep_work> Eventually. :P 22:30:08 <flo> I'm not sure if I should try bug 1021 myself or just decide that it will wait 22:30:11 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1021 maj, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Replace unsupported libpurple QQ with libqq-pidgin 22:30:48 <flo> it really sucks, but it's not like if it was a real regression, as it hasn't ever really worked right in 1.0 22:30:57 <clokep_work> It's bad to ship somethign we know definitely doesn't work though. :-/ 22:30:57 <clokep_work> I don't remember how bad the errors looked when I loaded it up. 22:32:19 <clokep_work> True. 22:32:43 <clokep_work> Would it be better to not build it until we have a working version? 22:33:04 <clokep_work> (Just remove it from the libpurple makefile) 22:39:12 <flo> no idea 22:39:30 <flo> I don't feel very good either about all the protocol plugins that we have never been able to test ;) 22:40:05 <flo> hmm, that's probably only GroupWise actually that we have never tested 22:41:55 <-- clokep_work has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 22:45:02 <-- myk has quit (Ping timeout) 22:58:20 --> clokep_work has joined #instantbird 22:58:20 * ChanServ sets mode +h clokep_work 22:58:48 <-- igorko has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.1a1pre) 23:00:05 <clokep_work> flo: Sorry about leaving, had to get a boarding pass. ;) 23:00:14 <flo> np 23:00:24 <clokep_work> Sametime has only been partially tested too. 23:00:35 <clokep_work> Although we've been told it works. :-D 23:00:39 <flo> we know from at least 2 people that it works 23:00:45 <flo> except it's not possible to accept chat invitation 23:01:00 <flo> (do we want to accept them by default for 1.1, with a pref to disable that behavior?) 23:03:04 <clokep_work> I don't know. :-/ Maybe? 23:03:26 <flo> I would take it. 23:07:48 <flo> Good night (for real this time ;)) 23:11:29 <clokep_work> Goodnight! :) 23:17:17 --> ironhead has joined #instantbird 23:29:25 --> hicham has joined #instantbird 23:30:42 <clokep_work> We should post / request/ etc. etc. about getting the Ubuntu repo updated I think. :-/ Maybe someone will step up? 23:32:09 <hicham> someone of the two ubuntu devs in here I think ;) 23:32:41 <clokep_work> chrisccoulson_ used to do it but I believe doesn't have time anymore. 23:33:43 <hicham> micahg can help with that too 23:38:17 <hicham> or simply open up a bug at launchpad 23:40:06 <clokep_work> Launchpad is really difficult to use. :P 23:40:07 <clokep_work> I don't really understand it at all. 23:41:24 <-- hicham has quit (Ping timeout) 23:41:44 * flo thinks (while sleeping) that this mac build failure is quite unfortunate, and that making moz7 build for ppc sounds painful (there are patches for it at http://code.google.com/p/tenfourfox/, but 325 files changed, 29854 insertions(+), 815 deletions(-) is definitely scary :-() 23:43:49 <clokep_work> I think they have jemalloc building for it, which is a lot of the insertions. 23:45:01 <flo> clokep_work: http://pastebin.instantbird.com/968 23:46:10 --> ecaron has joined #instantbird 23:46:30 <clokep_work> Yes, that is a lot of changes. :( 23:46:31 <clokep_work> And you should go to bed. :P 23:48:39 <-- ecaron has left #instantbird () 23:48:39 <flo> the alternative is to buy a mac intel for buildbot 23:49:04 <flo> either buy a used one 23:49:24 <flo> or bring one back from the US the next time I go there 23:49:46 <flo> (they are 20% cheaper in the US) 23:50:08 <clokep_work> Ah, that's a big difference. If I happen to be coming to France anytime soon I'll bring one over for you. :P 23:50:10 <flo> well, "cheap" is still a very relative notion for macs :-D 23:50:42 <flo> I'll go to mountain view for the google summer of code mentor summit in ~1 month 23:51:03 <clokep_work> Ah, nice. :) 23:51:32 <flo> (and the plane ticket costs more than a brand new mac mini bought here ;)) 23:51:35 <clokep_work> Ah time to go, goodnight. 23:51:59 <-- clokep_work has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 23:52:02 <flo> yeah, I'll go to bed (less happily now that I know I won't have a mac nightly tomorrow) :-() 23:54:46 <flo> pff, windows doesn't build either :(. Sounds more fixable though, as it's in our code.