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00:27:04 <clokep> This means I should go file a "Add tooltip information for Twitter" bug, shouldn't I? :P 00:30:51 <-- sabret00the has quit (Connection timed out) 00:31:19 --> sabret00the has joined #instantbird 00:43:19 <-- hunsly has quit (Ping timeout) 01:13:20 <lewellyn> clokep: i'm still installing stuff from your blog post. 01:13:41 <lewellyn> but you should note that people with vs2k5 pro don't need to disable accessibility nor download masm :) 01:16:20 <clokep> My blog post was more of how I got set up, not about full directions for everyone to get set up. 01:16:27 <clokep> We should probably make a wiki page though. 01:16:43 <clokep> (You also shuldn't have to disable jemalloc if you have pro btw.) 01:16:53 <lewellyn> yeah. it's more the masm thing. i fear it may screw up someone's installed masm :/ 01:17:32 <lewellyn> and yeah. you don't mention to disable jemalloc up above anyhow :) 01:17:48 <lewellyn> i'll probably put some pro notes in a comment once i get it built 01:18:03 <-- GeekShadow has quit (Ping timeout) 01:20:12 <-- linuxwizard has left #instantbird () 01:20:23 <lewellyn> but while i wait for the checkout i suppose i should go do something useful. like pick up dinner :) 01:22:23 --> GeekShadow has joined #instantbird 01:22:32 <clokep> So MASM comes with pro then? Interesting. 01:22:51 <clokep> Ah yeah I guess you don't use an option to disable jemalloc, it must just do it automatically. 01:23:47 <clokep> that would help to put them somewhere. :) That way someone can eventually make a wiki page. 01:24:04 <clokep> And yes, downloading takes a longgggggg time. :( 01:35:34 <lewellyn> yeah. masm was one of the things they had to bring out after the fact for express, because people complained that express is really useless without it ;) 01:35:53 <lewellyn> i think they had yanked it from the psdk at the same time, too 01:36:02 <clokep> Ah, I see. 01:37:50 <lewellyn> but yeah. i have ml.exe in C:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio 8\VC\bin 01:38:10 <lewellyn> just thought i would verify since i had asserted that :) 01:38:21 <clokep> Then yeah probably not good to install it again. 01:38:51 <lewellyn> if the installer's smart, it'll forbid it. i don't trust MSIs of that era, though, to be smart :) 01:39:09 <-- GeekShadow has quit (Ping timeout) 01:39:25 <clokep> Do you trust the ones of this era? ;) 01:40:11 <lewellyn> microsoft's gotten better and forbidding some level of user stupidity :) 01:42:36 <lewellyn> i hope my vm disk doesn't run out of space :D 01:43:43 <clokep> My instantbird dev directory is ~2.5 GB (including the mozilla source & a compiled obj dir) 01:43:48 <clokep> So...hopefully not. :) 01:44:51 <lewellyn> it was mostly a reference to how slow the mozilla hg repo is and how much disk activity it does. :) 01:45:04 <lewellyn> hm. you're using instantbird to irc? 01:45:09 <lewellyn> & came out as & there 01:45:13 <clokep> Hah. Yes, I am. 01:45:30 <clokep> I'm using a JavaScript version I'm rewriting, there's a few encoding issues like that. :-/ 01:45:59 <lewellyn> ok. i hadn't noticed that sort of issue before :) 01:46:18 <clokep> Yeah the mozilla hg repo is really really slow, I think I stole it from a thunderbird build I had around originally. 01:46:41 <clokep> Yeah...it shouldn't be coming out as &amp; 01:46:47 <clokep> I'll need to look into that. :( 01:47:17 <lewellyn> &amp; :D 01:48:09 <clokep> It looks correct for mebtw. 01:49:28 <lewellyn> probably because irc doesn't echo back ;) 01:50:27 <clokep> Probably because I'm apparently HTML encoding it before sending. :P 01:50:32 --> GeekShadow has joined #instantbird 01:50:37 <clokep> But yes, echoing back would be nice. 01:50:42 <clokep> Idk if any protocols. 01:50:47 <clokep> really do that though. 01:50:53 <lewellyn> yeah. that'd be my first guess as to why you're sending an entity :) 01:51:12 <lewellyn> and echoing doesn't make sense from a bandwidth or a latency perspective 01:51:58 <clokep> Of course. 01:52:14 <clokep> And those don't matter as much now...but whenever it was that IRC was made...they mattered a lot. 01:53:06 <lewellyn> it'd matter for people like me who are almost literally everywhere ;) 01:53:14 <-- chrisccoulson has quit (Ping timeout) 01:53:31 <lewellyn> i massively slashed my channel load a few months ago. down to about 90 irssi windows now. 01:53:36 <clokep> Nah it'd only matter if you talk a lot. :P 01:54:04 <lewellyn> one channel used to have a bot that kept stats like that. my average was 2.5 kilobytes/hour. 01:54:04 <clokep> Yeah I'm in no where near that many. 01:54:10 <clokep> More like 20ish. 02:06:20 <-- GeekShadow has quit (Quit: leaving) 02:06:55 <clokep> Goodnight. 02:06:57 <-- clokep has left #instantbird () 03:02:51 --> Mook has joined #instantbird 03:52:08 <-- Mook has quit (Ping timeout) 04:31:43 --> Mook has joined #instantbird 04:35:28 <-- sabret00the has quit (Connection timed out) 04:35:53 --> sabret00the has joined #instantbird 05:15:58 <-- sabret00the has quit (Connection timed out) 05:16:25 --> sabret00the has joined #instantbird 05:43:30 <-- sabret00the has quit (Connection timed out) 05:43:54 --> sabret00the has joined #instantbird 05:52:05 <-- DGMurdockIII has quit (Quit: get satisfied!  :: core-networks.de ««« (Gamers.IRC) »»» gamersirc.net ::) 05:56:06 --> hunsly has joined #instantbird 05:56:33 <-- Mook has quit (Connection reset by peer) 05:57:35 --> Mook has joined #instantbird 06:03:11 --> Nitrox has joined #instantbird 06:10:29 --> mokush has joined #instantbird 06:11:30 <-- MattATobin has quit (Quit: I'm a trifle deaf in this ear. Speak a little louder next time.) 06:36:09 <-- EionRobb has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 07:09:35 <-- Mook has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.87-rdmsoft [XULRunner 6.0/20110811165603]) 07:12:11 <lewellyn> hrmpf. no love for me. bedtime i guess. 07:12:24 <lewellyn> http://www.greenviolet.net/paste/3b838047.html is where i'm giving up :/ 07:12:44 <lewellyn> i followed clokep's blog instructions, plus added teh directx sdk, since that wasn't listed. 07:16:07 <-- hunsly has quit (Ping timeout) 07:21:39 --> chrisccoulson has joined #instantbird 07:28:55 --> jb has joined #instantbird 07:43:27 <-- lewellyn has quit (Ping timeout) 07:46:33 --> gerard-majax has joined #instantbird 07:49:30 --> lewellyn has joined #instantbird 08:02:31 <-- sabret00the has quit (Connection timed out) 08:02:54 --> sabret00the has joined #instantbird 08:06:34 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 08:06:34 * ChanServ sets mode +h Mic 08:12:01 <-- lewellyn has quit (Ping timeout) 08:21:14 <instantbot> New Instantbird (UI) bug 1018 filed by benediktp@ymail.com. 08:21:16 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1018 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Context menu openable on signing-off contacts 08:22:07 --> flo has joined #instantbird 08:22:07 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo flo 08:24:30 <-- Mic has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.1a1pre) 08:25:30 <-- sabret00the has quit (Connection timed out) 08:25:32 <flo> hello :) 08:25:54 --> sabret00the has joined #instantbird 08:28:41 --> lewellyn has joined #instantbird 08:29:03 --> Mad_Maks1 has joined #instantbird 08:32:22 <flo> I wonder if we should change the default IRC "Real Name" from "purple" (http://lxr.instantbird.org/instantbird/source/purple/libpurple/protocols/irc/irc.h#39) to "Instantbird" 08:33:13 <-- lewellyn has quit (Ping timeout) 08:33:29 <-- flo has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.1a1pre) 08:33:32 --> flo has joined #instantbird 08:33:32 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo flo 08:36:03 --> lewellyn has joined #instantbird 08:43:15 <-- lewellyn has quit (Ping timeout) 08:43:21 <flo> one of my french sametime testers reports that the plugin works fine for IMs, but he hasn't been able to participate in a MUC. 08:43:47 <flo> apparently the plugin supports MUCs, but to join one, the user needs to use a custom dialog rather than the standard join chat dialog (boo) 08:43:55 --> lewellyn has joined #instantbird 08:44:17 <flo> and when invited, it seems the code goes through http://lxr.instantbird.org/instantbird/source/purple/libpurple/server.c#777 which will call purple_request_accept_cancel... which we don't display. 08:44:36 <flo> would there be any issue with accepting chat invitations automatically? 08:45:04 <-- Mad_Maks1 has quit (Connection reset by peer) 08:47:13 --> Mad_Maks has joined #instantbird 08:48:29 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 08:49:37 <-- aleth has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.1a1pre) 08:49:49 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 08:50:19 <flo> clokep: file twitter bugs as you like. It's even better if the patch is attached ;). 08:52:00 <flo> lewellyn: it's possible you need to close your terminal and reopen it for new environment variables added by the directx sdk install to take effect. And maybe you also need to force configure to run again (make -f client.mk configure). 08:52:29 <lewellyn> i did both. i'll try it again though. i'm not doing much of use right now :) 08:53:57 <lewellyn> it's too bad that 2> doesn't work properly under msys :/ 08:56:12 <-- sabret00the has quit (Connection timed out) 08:56:57 --> sabret00the has joined #instantbird 09:00:26 <lewellyn> flo: btw, i 100% think the realname should be changed from purple. 09:00:30 <-- Mad_Maks has quit (Client exited) 09:00:50 <lewellyn> i always feel that projects are lazy for not doing so :/ 09:01:17 <lewellyn> (though, really, libpurple should make it even easier to change) 09:09:30 --> mmkmou has joined #instantbird 09:11:19 <-- mmkmou has quit (Ping timeout) 09:25:29 --> chrisccoulson_ has joined #instantbird 09:25:39 <-- chrisccoulson has quit (Ping timeout) 09:27:50 <-- sabret00the has quit (Connection timed out) 09:28:22 --> mmkmou has joined #instantbird 09:28:29 --> sabret00the has joined #instantbird 09:30:06 --> Mad_Maks has joined #instantbird 09:33:53 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 09:33:53 * ChanServ sets mode +h Mic 09:41:38 <Mic> The tooltips seem to work fine. 09:42:18 <flo> :) 09:43:24 <Mic> I've seen a "?" instead of the e with grave accent in your name though. 09:43:30 <aleth> I see no tooltips in IRC :( 09:43:50 <flo> Mic: I've noticed that too. Probably some encoding issue somewhere 09:44:10 * flo hates encoding bugs 09:44:33 <Mic> aleth: are you using the latest nightly build? 09:44:40 <aleth> Mic: yes 09:44:55 <aleth> (20110906041059) 09:44:57 <Mic> You should see them when hovering someones name on the participant list 09:46:07 <aleth> I will download the whole thing just to be sure there wasn't an update error 09:46:46 <lewellyn> hm. is there a way to get instantbird to accept multiple irc servers with the same hostname but differing ports? 09:47:10 <-- aleth has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.1a1pre) 09:47:28 <flo> do you need to use the same nick on both? 09:48:17 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 09:49:17 <lewellyn> i suppose not. it's irssiproxy, so irssi will force a nick change 09:49:24 * lewellyn tries using different nicks :D 09:49:28 <-- Mic has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.1a1pre) 09:49:57 <aleth> aha! It works now 09:50:31 <aleth> Incremental update must have been incomplete somehow 09:50:35 <aleth> very nice :) 09:52:11 <flo> :) 09:55:12 * lewellyn grumbles 09:55:25 <lewellyn> instantbird mass-parted channels on me when i renamed that account 09:55:43 <flo> you can't rename an account 09:55:49 <lewellyn> well, i deleted it 09:56:02 <lewellyn> it should have just quit the server, not parted all the channels :/ 09:56:28 <flo> ah, it has closed the conversations before disconnecting? 09:56:52 <lewellyn> yeah 09:57:03 <lewellyn> only about 90 channels, since i've lightened my channel load 09:57:35 <lewellyn> kinda negates the use of irssiproxy to reduce channel noise from coming/going when clients do that :( 09:58:03 <flo> file a bug? ;) 09:59:18 <aleth> Can anyone else reproduce this: Tooltips don't show if MUC IRC is the only conversation active. Opening one other conversation brings them back. 09:59:38 <flo> define "active" please ;) 10:00:08 <aleth> active = present = in existence ;) 10:00:59 <aleth> Aha! Turning on "always show the tab bar" in Prefs resolves the problem 10:01:03 <aleth> Strange 10:01:05 <lewellyn> flo: another bug. it didn't wait for them all to part before quitting. ;) 10:01:08 <lewellyn> let's test this 10:01:32 <flo> aleth: arg. That unfortunately makes sense, I reused the tooltip of the tab bar (the one used for conversation tabs) :( 10:01:43 <flo> file a bug please? :) 10:02:01 <lewellyn> hrm. now i can't reproduce it :( 10:02:22 <flo> lewellyn: 90 part messages weren't enough? :-D 10:02:34 <lewellyn> i did it to this network connection ;) 10:02:48 <lewellyn> only channel i'm in on this network is here ;) 10:03:18 <-- chrisccoulson_ has quit (Quit: Ex-Chat) 10:04:56 <-- sabret00the has quit (Connection timed out) 10:05:04 <instantbot> New Instantbird (UI) bug 1019 filed by aletheia2@fastmail.fm. 10:05:06 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1019 nor, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, Participant tooltips do not appear if tab bar not shown 10:05:25 <-- lewellyn has left #instantbird () 10:05:40 --> sabret00the has joined #instantbird 10:05:41 --> lewellyn has joined #instantbird 10:05:58 <lewellyn> ok. is it a bug that it /part's when you close the window? :/ 10:06:06 <flo> no 10:06:25 <flo> there's a pref in the advanced config editor to change that behavior though 10:06:26 <aleth> At least this means the incremental update worked after all ;) Unusual accidental coincidence that I only had one convo open... 10:06:45 <flo> aleth: nightly testing is definitely useful ;) 10:07:31 <aleth> flo: and the absence of session restore, I suppose ;) 10:07:46 <lewellyn> flo: how do i access the advanced config editor? :) 10:08:05 <flo> lewellyn: there's a button on the last tab of the "Advanced" preference pane 10:08:09 <Mad_Maks> a few days ago somebody said that it is difficult to see if somebody is idle in irc (grey-out like chatzilla) but in the (nice) new tooltip there is a status message 10:08:21 <flo> errr, first 10:08:27 --> chrisccoulson has joined #instantbird 10:08:35 <flo> oh well, go to the pref window, then Adanced->General->Config Editor 10:09:14 <lewellyn> flo: yeah. i found it. it's late and i hit enter before thinking :) 10:09:19 <lewellyn> now to figure out what it's called. 10:09:29 <flo> filter on "alwaysClose" 10:09:49 <lewellyn> hrm. what implications does that have as false? 10:10:13 <flo> non destructive implications ;) 10:10:17 <lewellyn> good :D 10:10:36 <lewellyn> now to go rejoin channels again... 10:11:00 <flo> false will be the default once that feature is finished 10:11:05 <flo> but it's already usable 10:11:18 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 10:11:18 * ChanServ sets mode +h clokep 10:11:20 <flo> aleth: is that "always show the tab bar" preference really useful? 10:11:42 <-- clokep has left #instantbird () 10:11:43 <lewellyn> flo: i'd like to +1 that falseness :) 10:11:47 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 10:12:56 <aleth> flo: I don't know, I had it turned off at any rate. I suppose for users with few conversations, or if you turn off tabbed conversations altogether, it is useful 10:13:21 <aleth> If each conv is a window, you don't want a tab bar there 10:13:38 <flo> hmm. yeah, we still need to fix your bug for that case, even if we remove the pref 10:14:10 <flo> conv windows without a tab bar don't look as good as they could/should on Mac currently. 10:14:34 <flo> and I'm annoyed that there's no way to start dragging a conversation that has no tab to drop it into another conv window 10:15:13 <aleth> You can have multiple conv windows and tabs at the same time? 10:15:19 <flo> yes 10:15:42 <flo> just drag a conv tab out of the window 10:15:51 <lewellyn> ok. since i haven't played with irc in instantbird much yet, i have noobish questions. :/ 10:16:00 <flo> or check the checkbox to have MUCs in a separate window 10:16:04 <aleth> Ah, of course - mozilla under the hood :) 10:16:38 <lewellyn> firstly, how do you tell whether a channel is "active" (e.g. talking/highlights) or just "crap" (e.g. joins/parts/modes/topic)? 10:17:42 <lewellyn> oh. i guess it only turns red if there's actual chatting. ok. good :) 10:17:52 <flo> and blue if someone said your nick 10:18:09 <lewellyn> awesome. a purple irc client which may actually be useable! :D 10:18:25 <lewellyn> next, how do i make smilies not trigger on strings in nicks? :/ 10:18:58 <flo> we have a bug on file for that 10:19:53 <lewellyn> ok. and i'm not sure how i feel about /slashed/ text being auto-italicized... it makes paths hard to read. how does one turn that off? 10:20:34 <lewellyn> /opt/csw/lib/\$ISALIST was what just made me notice that, since /\ doesn't work well at all that way :/ 10:21:55 <flo> an add-on could probably hack around it. I don't know if that's worth adding a pref to turn it off 10:22:56 <clokep> flo: we decided it wasn't. I think according to the Mozilla toolkit stuff it's using...paths /shouldn't/ be italicized...but obviously it's guessing in every situation. 10:23:22 <clokep> Turning off all formatting would get rid of it. 10:23:34 <flo> ah, right :) 10:23:53 <flo> I'm not even sure I find italic paths hard to read 10:25:28 <lewellyn> i see lots of paths in a day. i'm deciding whether i like non-monospaced fonts or not yet ;) 10:25:31 <lewellyn> but, turning off formatting will turn off incoming formatting from others on "real" im networks, right? 10:25:51 <flo> yes 10:26:22 <lewellyn> that's unfortunate :( 10:26:37 <lewellyn> also, is it a bug that the font list is sorted A-Za-z? 10:26:48 <lewellyn> i was expecting it to be non-case-sensitive 10:27:09 <flo> that code was copied from Firefox 10:27:37 <flo> I don't feel strongly about it either way 10:27:42 <lewellyn> ah yeah. the firefox font stuff kind of sucks for usability. perhaps i should see how hard it is to fix :) 10:27:54 <lewellyn> still waiting on My First Compile though. 10:28:30 <lewellyn> erk. is tab-completing nicks on the todo list? (or is there an alternate way to do it?) 10:28:37 <-- sabret00the has quit (Connection timed out) 10:28:48 <aleth> lewellyn: there is an add-on for that 10:29:04 <flo> lewellyn: yes. But until it's done, there's a great restartless add-on for that. 10:29:08 <lewellyn> clokep: since you weren't around at the time, i found an omission in your guide. i'll add that to my comment notes for when i make the comment :) 10:29:11 --> sabret00the has joined #instantbird 10:29:14 <flo> search for "Tab Complete" in the add-on manager 10:29:24 <lewellyn> ok. time to look at add-ons again. i haven't done it in so long, most of my addons are now incompatible :) 10:29:38 <clokep> lewellyn: The DirectX SDK? 10:29:43 <lewellyn> clokep: yup 10:29:53 <clokep> I don't thinK I had to install it. 10:29:56 <flo> lewellyn: you can follow the doc to build Firefox ;) 10:30:18 <lewellyn> clokep: it throws a warning at configure, but it's apparently now fatal. 10:30:42 <flo> can't to --disable-<something> to avoid needing it? 10:30:50 <clokep> --disable-angle should do it. 10:31:08 <lewellyn> i think that may have been in the output yes. 10:31:08 <clokep> (I think.) 10:31:14 <-- vicnet has quit (Ping timeout) 10:31:24 <clokep> It's also possible that that's changed since I wrote that guide. :) 10:31:35 --> vicnet has joined #instantbird 10:31:35 <clokep> I was compiling 0.3<something> with that originally I think. 10:31:51 <flo> clokep: fix that HTML escaping bug please :) 10:32:14 <clokep> flo: I'll look into it. :P 10:32:30 <lewellyn> hee 10:32:40 <clokep> (Am I getting pre-escaped things already from the input box for some reason?) 10:33:22 <lewellyn> heh. nicks get formatted as well. (probably related to the emotes?) 10:34:00 <flo> clokep: if you didn't add get HTMLEnabled() false, in your code, then probably. 10:34:13 <flo> twitter.js has it: http://lxr.instantbird.org/instantbird/source/purple/purplexpcom/src/twitter.js#176 10:35:28 <clokep> OK, let me restart... 10:35:33 <-- clokep has left #instantbird () 10:35:36 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 10:35:37 * ChanServ sets mode +h clokep 10:35:43 <clokep> Is this better? & 10:35:50 <flo> no :( 10:36:10 <clokep> I'll have to look into it more then. Time to get to work. 10:36:15 <flo> clokep: by the way, twitter echos back the messages we send :) 10:36:19 <aleth> & 10:37:02 <lewellyn> hm. i hadn't noticed twitter support before... neat. 10:37:11 <lewellyn> (but how do we reply/retweet?) 10:37:18 <clokep> Ah, speaking of Twitter...my bug to only get things from the previously last read Tweet>...? We should really only mark the last tweet as "read" if the conversation isn't hidden. :( 10:37:26 <clokep> lewellyn: You can't. 10:37:32 <lewellyn> fair enough. :) 10:37:32 <clokep> We're working on it. 10:37:48 <flo> lewellyn: I'm working on that (reply/RT) 10:38:19 <lewellyn> it's still usable :D 10:39:09 * clokep doesn't have pretty tooltips until he implements requestBuddyInfo. :'( 10:40:29 <lewellyn> hm. yeah. i can't deal with twitter making noise every few seconds. :/ 10:41:44 <clokep> It's probably not a great client for intense Twitter users (like if you get an @-reply every few seconds it'll ping :P). 10:42:14 <lewellyn> yeah. i just can't find a fairly-basic desktop client that doesn't suck. :) 10:42:41 <flo> define "doesn't suck" and it's likely things will go in that direction if you can convince people to agree with your definition ;) 10:43:17 --> Andrey has joined #instantbird 10:43:56 <lewellyn> well, most clients that don't suck start getting too many features added to them ;) 10:44:31 <flo> "not sucking" may be a feature 10:44:35 <lewellyn> my favorite twitter client is the one i use on my phone, actually. unfortunately, there's no easy way to run it on the average pc, i don't think. 10:45:36 <clokep> Bye. 10:45:38 <-- clokep has left #instantbird () 10:47:32 <lewellyn> it's kind of too bad you don't get a tooltip with the user's hostmask (only) when you hover over the joining/parting/whatevering nick. 10:48:56 <flo> you mean the hostmask shouldn't be visible in the joining messages until it's hovered? 10:49:19 <lewellyn> that would work, too. but i noticed with clokep's part :) 10:50:08 <lewellyn> it'd be consistent and useful! (just like the timestamp tooltip) 10:50:17 <-- sabret00the has quit (Connection timed out) 10:50:42 --> sabret00the has joined #instantbird 10:50:54 <-- chrisccoulson has quit (Quit: Ex-Chat) 10:58:35 --> chrisccoulson has joined #instantbird 11:10:14 <-- sabret00the has quit (Connection timed out) 11:10:42 --> sabret00the has joined #instantbird 11:18:33 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 11:18:33 * ChanServ sets mode +h Mic 11:21:40 <-- jb has quit (Ping timeout) 11:23:54 <-- Mad_Maks has left #instantbird () 11:31:26 <-- sabret00the has quit (Connection timed out) 11:32:13 --> sabret00the has joined #instantbird 11:33:27 --> FeuerFliege has joined #instantbird 11:33:36 <Mic> Ah, nice! I didn't know our pastebin had a "download this post"-feature :) 11:34:15 * Mic adds pastebin to the list of possible previews .. 11:35:17 <FeuerFliege> hi! 11:36:19 <-- mokush has quit (Ping timeout) 11:36:25 <Mic> Hello Feuerfliege 11:38:23 --> mokush has joined #instantbird 11:38:49 --> clokep_work has joined #instantbird 11:38:49 * ChanServ sets mode +h clokep_work 11:44:12 <-- FeuerFliege has left #instantbird () 12:01:23 --> jb has joined #instantbird 12:02:39 <-- sabret00the has quit (Connection timed out) 12:03:14 --> sabret00the has joined #instantbird 12:08:09 <clokep_work> flo: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/6663790446e3#l4.7 implies another event should be fired to return the information, but http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/6663790446e3#l5.15 seems to return an EmptyEnumerator, shouldn't it just throw not implemented? 12:09:30 <flo> I dislike throwing an error each time we attempt to open a tooltip for a plugin that doesn't support it 12:09:41 <flo> but yeah, it shouldn't return anything, just an empty function 12:10:26 <flo> if we want to throw NOT_IMPLEMENTED, we can just remove that line, as it will find another implementation in the prototype, which will forward to the purpleIAccountBase. 12:12:42 <flo> clokep_work: what do you think of accepting chat invites automatically? 12:14:05 <clokep_work> flo: Was this in response to Sametime? 12:14:27 <-- jb has quit (Ping timeout) 12:14:28 <clokep_work> Don't we need someway to be "invited" to a chat anyway (IRC also has the capability I believe). 12:14:33 <flo> yeah, for sametime, but also for bug 628 12:14:37 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=628 nor, --, ---, mook.moz+bugs.instantbird, ASSI, Unable to accept IRC invite 12:14:55 <clokep_work> I don't like that, it's a privacy thing. :-/ 12:15:15 <clokep_work> (Maybe not for Sametime, which is most likely a corporate environment, etc. But definitely for IRC.) 12:15:30 <clokep_work> Bah, Mibbit ate my comment "a privacy thing / a spam thing" 12:15:52 <flo> yeah, there's a spam potential 12:16:14 <flo> and what about accepting automatically, but with an about:config pref to disable it? 12:16:38 <clokep_work> I'd like to open the conversation, use the notification bar at the top that says "You've been invited to blah blah [Accept] [Cancel]" 12:17:07 <clokep_work> Accept would actually open the conversation (i.e. for IRC it would JOIN and do all the results from that), Cancel would close the conversation. 12:17:11 <flo> would that model work too for buddy requests? 12:19:39 <clokep_work> Hmmm...maybe...does it make sense to open a conversation for buddy requests? 12:19:50 <clokep_work> (I'm not very familiar with buddy requests...I've never really used a protocol that has them.) 12:21:30 <flo> at least XMPP and MSN use them 12:22:03 <flo> ICQ too I think, but maybe only with some privacy settings 12:22:28 <-- Mic has quit (Ping timeout) 12:22:34 --> jb has joined #instantbird 12:23:19 <-- vicnet has quit (Ping timeout) 12:24:31 <clokep_work> I think that makes more sense on the contact list (but not as pop up, as a notification of some sort). 12:28:04 <-- sabret00the has quit (Connection timed out) 12:28:21 <clokep_work> But perhaps it would work as a conversation (especially if you get a message from them). 12:28:45 --> sabret00the has joined #instantbird 12:30:24 <clokep_work> ("from them" meaning "as part of the authorization request") 12:30:51 <lewellyn> icq sends a message with the auth request, as does qq. 12:31:20 <lewellyn> i think gadu gadu does, as well. but i haven't used that in years 12:33:53 --> GeekShadow has joined #instantbird 12:39:41 --> vicnet has joined #instantbird 12:42:42 <clokep_work> Well if that's the case it would probably be a convenient way to combine them all into one code path? :) 12:44:49 * lewellyn was just filling in blanks, not opining :) 12:49:15 <-- sabret00the has quit (Connection timed out) 12:49:39 * clokep_work is now known as clokep_meeting 12:49:46 --> sabret00the has joined #instantbird 12:53:09 <-- mokush has quit (Ping timeout) 12:55:47 --> mokush has joined #instantbird 12:56:44 <lewellyn> oh hey. real 119m3.506s 12:56:50 <lewellyn> i had forgotten about it :) 12:59:13 --> waynenguyen has joined #instantbird 13:00:32 <-- aleth has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.1a1pre) 13:02:26 --> FeuerFliege has joined #instantbird 13:03:02 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 13:03:30 <-- FeuerFliege has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.1a1pre) 13:03:33 --> FeuerFliege has joined #instantbird 13:07:08 --> hunsly has joined #instantbird 13:09:22 <-- sabret00the has quit (Connection timed out) 13:09:47 --> sabret00the has joined #instantbird 13:12:06 <-- FeuerFliege has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.1a1pre) 13:12:08 --> FeuerFliege has joined #instantbird 13:14:29 <-- FeuerFliege has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.1a1pre) 13:14:32 --> FeuerFliege has joined #instantbird 13:27:46 <-- FeuerFliege has left #instantbird () 13:29:10 --> FeuerFliege has joined #instantbird 13:44:49 <-- sabret00the has quit (Connection timed out) 13:45:19 --> sabret00the has joined #instantbird 13:46:06 <-- flo has quit (Ping timeout) 13:49:34 --> flo has joined #instantbird 13:49:35 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo flo 14:00:13 <-- aleth has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.1a1pre) 14:10:49 * flo is trying the AIM included in Netscape 7.2 14:13:35 <flo> no licence headers in the files :-/ 14:14:09 <-- sabret00the has quit (Connection timed out) 14:14:57 --> sabret00the has joined #instantbird 14:15:28 <flo> inconsistent indentation, inconsistent coding style, dead code in the middle of the files... wow 14:20:28 --> igorko has joined #instantbird 14:21:24 <flo> putting an away message hides the buddy list 14:21:37 <flo> typing in an existing IM window removes the away message immediately 14:21:43 <flo> that's... interesting :) 14:24:50 <lewellyn> netscape 7.2? erg. 14:26:59 <clokep_meeting> flo: I don't think that code is "free" in any sense. :( 14:27:37 <flo> I was wondering if there could be an oscar implementation in there that could be reverse engineerable ;) 14:27:38 <clokep_meeting> Typing immediate makes you not away? Interesting. 14:27:54 <clokep_meeting> I remember that /sending/ one always did that in the standalone AIM client. 14:28:09 <clokep_meeting> I'm sure it could be reverse engineered...how old it would be and how legal it would be are debatable probably. ;) 14:28:20 <flo> oh, the "hidden window" is visible :-D 14:28:32 <clokep_meeting> AOL iused to provide documentation about the protocol I believe. 14:28:43 <flo> clokep_meeting: well, if aim.jar is only the UI, there's no point in reverse engineering it 14:29:01 <clokep_meeting> Ah, that's true. 14:29:06 * clokep_meeting is now known as clokep_work 14:29:42 <flo> you are right, it's sending, not typing. 14:30:22 <flo> it's nice that there are DOM inspector and Venkman by default and that they actually work ;) 14:31:19 <-- GeekShadow has quit (Client exited) 14:32:28 <lewellyn> clokep_work: perhaps you're remembering the OpenAIM thing? 14:33:48 <clokep_work> Yeah, although Idk if it was always called that. 14:35:24 <clokep_work> The AIM protocol is fairly well understood I believe flo, it wouldn't be ridiculous to recreate I don't think. 14:35:53 <clokep_work> http://imfreedom.org/wiki/AIM has some documentation. 14:38:09 * clokep_work is scared by the changes going on in libpurple 3.0.0 with their lack of a testing infrastructure. 14:38:28 <flo> some screenshots: http://queze.net/goinfre/netscape-aim/ 14:38:39 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 14:38:39 * ChanServ sets mode +h Mic 14:38:59 <-- sabret00the has quit (Connection timed out) 14:39:04 <flo> clokep_work: are you afraid it may stop crashing? ;) 14:39:32 --> sabret00the has joined #instantbird 14:39:59 <clokep_work> flo: I'm afraid it may not stop crashing. :P 14:39:59 <Mic> What about another section with buddy requests on the contact list? It seems strange to me to use a bar on the conversation window for this. 14:40:13 <flo> clokep_work: it needs to compile to crash ;) 14:41:04 <clokep_work> So much bling on those windows... 14:41:21 <clokep_work> Bah that address book /is/ the Thunderbird address book... 14:41:25 <clokep_work> (Still) 14:42:02 <flo> clokep_work: notice the "IM" icon in the toolbar :) 14:42:41 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 14:42:59 <clokep_work> flo: Yes. Is that still there somewhere? :P 14:43:12 <flo> like with a display: none on it? :-D 14:44:40 <clokep_work> Is it seriously? :( 14:45:03 <-- mmkmou has quit (Ping timeout) 14:45:44 <clokep_work> So is aim.jar just GUI stuff then? 14:45:59 <flo> the screenname colomn is still there in Thunderbird 14:47:45 <clokep_work> Yes, you can enter screennames into the address book. 14:48:35 <lewellyn> clokep_work: of course the addressbook is the thunderbird address book. there hasn't been THAT much innovation since carving up the suite ;) 14:49:04 <clokep_work> flo: mconley in #maildev would probably appreciate the address book in that picture. :P 14:49:11 <lewellyn> instantbird is probably the most interesting thing to happen to mozilla since that time 14:49:34 <flo> clokep_work: what do you think he would do with that? 14:50:40 <clokep_work> laugh. :) 14:51:29 <clokep_work> He had some interesting ideas for the addressbook: http://mikeconley.ca/blog/2011/08/25/fidding-with-designs-for-a-future-thunderbird-address-book/ 14:53:08 <flo> he already has http://mikeconley.ca/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/netscape-address-directory.png in his collection ;) 14:55:13 <clokep_work> Ah, you're right. :( 14:55:19 <clokep_work> It looks a lot nicer on Mac. :P 14:55:53 <flo> he probably took a way older netscape 14:56:18 <flo> I used the latest that had AIM integration for my screenshots, as it's the AIM integration that I was interested in 14:57:04 <lewellyn> yeah. the one good thing about aol+netscape is the ui overhaul they did 14:57:21 <-- sabret00the has quit (Connection timed out) 14:57:23 <lewellyn> he looks to be using 4.x in that screenshot 14:58:04 --> sabret00the has joined #instantbird 14:59:18 --> GeekShadow has joined #instantbird 15:02:21 --> mmkmou has joined #instantbird 15:06:14 <clokep_work> Hey so we really need to do a blog post. I had prepared one about us responding to Feedback from 1.0 here: http://typewith.me/NYVRsNnWwZ it probably needs to be updated a bit (i.e. we've added Sametime support) and oculd use a few more eyes looking over it if anyone is interested. 15:07:18 <lewellyn> hrm. ok. i just started poking at the built bits... 15:07:23 <lewellyn> how do i use them now? :) 15:11:23 <clokep_work> Uhh...the built exectuable is under <obj dir>/mozilla/dist/bin I believe 15:11:29 <clokep_work> And you can run Instantbird from there. 15:11:42 <clokep_work> (The -P flag might be useful, it lets yyou speify a different profile) 15:15:18 <lewellyn> ok. it built 15:15:33 * lewellyn is pleased by this. (it ran too) 15:15:47 <lewellyn> so i'll spend some time poking at libqq later :) 15:18:42 <clokep_work> Awesome! :) 15:18:46 <clokep_work> Congrats. ;) 15:21:10 <lewellyn> my problem, btw, is that i tried running from objdir-ib-release\instantbird\app :/ 15:22:53 <-- sabret00the has quit (Connection timed out) 15:23:37 --> sabret00the has joined #instantbird 15:23:42 <clokep_work> Ah, yeah it's the build structure from mozilla so... 15:24:51 <lewellyn> yeah. i noticed at the end of the build that there was some installer made in that tree, so i assumed that it'd be a sane binary ;) 15:33:13 <-- Andrey has quit (Quit: ) 15:36:58 <clokep_work> Yup! Btw I don't think we have a bug about upgrading to libqq, so just file one at some point. :) 15:39:16 <-- aleth has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.1a1pre) 15:42:38 <lewellyn> at some point. perhaps with a patch ;) 15:43:02 <lewellyn> i'm going to have to dig through their autoconf cruft and see what they're doing 15:46:32 <clokep_work> Why? 15:47:14 <clokep_work> We already have a makefile in place, no new files were added (when I checked at least...) you might need to add a couple of defines I suppose. 15:49:01 <clokep_work> (My point being, just don't waste too much time on their make garbage. :-D) 15:49:03 <-- sabret00the has quit (Connection timed out) 15:49:38 --> sabret00the has joined #instantbird 15:53:31 <lewellyn> well, i have to wait for the build to fail. but i expect that they're autoconfing something stupidly. 15:55:10 <flo> by the way, we apply patch against the QQ plugin of libpurple for MSVC compatibility, so you may want to try to get them and apply them, rather than figuring out each of the compatibility issues again 15:55:50 <lewellyn> flo: thanks :) 15:56:09 <clokep_work> Yeah, upstreaming as much of that as we can is good! :) 15:56:42 <clokep_work> lewellyn: The build should fail essentially "immediately" (< 1 minute on my machine) if you build just the purple directory. 15:56:46 <lewellyn> it seems more likely to be accepted by these guys than the pidgin folk 15:57:02 <lewellyn> clokep, i'm just running a regular build 15:57:06 <lewellyn> i'm in no rush :) 15:57:13 <lewellyn> it's 9am. i need coffee. 15:57:13 <-- hunsly has quit (Ping timeout) 15:58:21 <clokep_work> "running a regular build"? I'm just offering a way to save time (and it doesn't do anything different! Just builds a subdirectory). 15:58:32 <flo> lewellyn: here is what we applied against the qq plugin of libpurple 2.7.9: http://pastebin.instantbird.com/936 15:58:41 <-- jb has quit (Ping timeout) 15:58:53 <lewellyn> k. thanks. i'll check it out in a bit. :) 15:59:33 <-- gerard-majax has quit (Ping timeout) 16:00:19 <-- waynenguyen has quit (Connection reset by peer) 16:00:37 <clokep_work> (And just to throw it out there...I don't think we support WINCE anymore, so that's not necessary...) 16:03:34 --> jb has joined #instantbird 16:05:47 <lewellyn> didn't instantbird start after mozilla killed ce support? 16:06:02 <lewellyn> (which kind of sucks since i'd love to use instantbird on my netbook) 16:06:43 <-- mokush has quit (Client exited) 16:07:17 <flo> lewellyn: no. the wince support was for Firefox 3.6/Mozilla1.9.2. (not to be confused with the old minimo project that was already long dead) 16:07:29 <flo> your WINCE ifdef can be removed of course :) 16:07:56 <lewellyn> oh? they brought back support after killing it last year? 16:08:22 <flo> lewellyn: instantbird started in 2007. 16:08:57 <lewellyn> oh. i didn't hear about it till whenever i first installed it. no more than a year ago, surely. 16:09:46 <lewellyn> hrm. is searching addons broken from the addons manager, or is it just me? 16:13:34 <-- sabret00the has quit (Connection timed out) 16:13:40 --> Mook_as has joined #instantbird 16:13:41 <Mic> lewellyn: the search seems to be quite picky with respect to search terms (and sandboxed add-ons/such stuff) 16:13:46 <lewellyn> yup. i gotta automake at the least, it seems 16:14:04 <flo> automake is *never* needed for Instantbird 16:14:05 <Mic> You can find an add-on if you exactly know which one you're looking for;) 16:14:12 --> sabret00the has joined #instantbird 16:14:29 <lewellyn> Mic: hm. i was searching for Trollicons 1.0 16:14:36 <lewellyn> i have to see this on irc ;) 16:15:40 <Mic> uuh :S I really don't like the look of these .. 16:16:20 <lewellyn> i don't see them anywhere once i drag the xpi to my addons manager :/ 16:17:16 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 16:17:22 <lewellyn> trying to install it via the gear doesn't work either, naturally. 16:17:43 <flo> any error in the Error Console? 16:18:35 <Mic> The website says they're compatible with 1.0.* only .. 16:18:49 <lewellyn> flo: nothing obviously related. 16:19:04 <lewellyn> Mic: i was expecting some sort of notification or something if they're really not compatible :/ 16:19:14 <Mic> .. there should be one, yes. 16:20:20 <lewellyn> aha. just had to modify the install.rdf. let's restart and see what happens. 16:23:52 <lewellyn> wow these icons are huge. :/ 16:25:26 <-- igorko has quit (Ping timeout) 16:26:15 --> waynenguyen has joined #instantbird 16:29:20 <-- waynenguyen has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.1a1pre) 16:29:45 --> waynenguyen has joined #instantbird 16:32:12 <-- jb has quit (Ping timeout) 16:32:17 --> ecaron has joined #instantbird 16:32:21 --> jb has joined #instantbird 16:32:49 <aleth> Mic: did you get my message yesterday re your add-on? 16:37:45 <Mic> That was the one to open the join chat dialog not working on the nightlies? 16:38:29 <-- sabret00the has quit (Connection timed out) 16:39:01 <lewellyn> hm. does anyone know of a version of Input History which works with nightlies? 16:39:06 <aleth> It *does* work on the nightlies, flawlessly 16:39:16 --> sabret00the has joined #instantbird 16:39:23 <lewellyn> it isn't, here, after updating install.rdf to make it install. 16:39:43 <aleth> But you should change the install.rdf, because currently it's not findable via search in IB, and the website lists "compatible with 1.0" regardless 16:39:55 <Mic> well, if it works with 1.0 it should work with the nightlies as well 16:40:27 <aleth> The problem is the users currently have to hack install.rdf when you could do it for us :D 16:40:28 <lewellyn> oh interesting. apparently it requires a restart to work. :/ 16:40:31 <Mook_as> lewellyn: hmm, I didn't read the full logs, but did you eventually find http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/bundles/? 16:41:17 <aleth> lewellyn: btw I was referring to "Join Chat" add-on not "Input History" 16:41:34 <lewellyn> Mook_as: no, i didn't need them. i just did other things. (read: wasted time playing with irssiproxy so now i have irc in instantbird which doesn't generate lots of noise in many channels) 16:41:45 <lewellyn> aleth: oh :) 16:41:47 <Mook_as> ahh, :D 16:43:05 <Mic> lewellyn: I guess the "hidden conversations" feature breaks some restartless add-ons that attach stuff to the window 16:44:49 <Mic> I haven't checked it though, it's really only a guess (I earlier had a problem with detaching tabs into a new window as well, this also broke input history, scroll keys, ..) 16:44:54 <lewellyn> hm. no /ignore support yet? :( 16:46:09 <-- Nitrox has quit (Quit: Connection to internet lost) 16:46:11 <Mic> (it's not exactly "attaching stuff to the window" but the description should be good enough here) 16:46:17 <Mic> bbl 16:49:46 <Mic> aleth: it should appear in the "get add-ons" search of the add-on manager now. 16:50:45 <-- aleth has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.1a1pre) 16:52:11 <flo> I've added some HTML markup to http://typewith.me/NYVRsNnWwZ 16:52:17 <flo> + a paragraph at the end 16:52:23 <flo> is this ready to go today? 16:56:09 <Mook_as> style nit, first time reading it (and please feel free to ignore, it's not important): too! many! exclaimation! marks! makes! me! think! you! are! william! shatner! 16:56:53 <-- jb has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.0) 16:56:59 --> jb has joined #instantbird 16:57:29 <flo> Mook_as: did I put more than one? 16:57:48 <Mook_as> not in the same sentence, there's just a lot of them over the whole document 17:00:00 <lewellyn> When asked why people want this we often get a response as "that's what <another IM client> does" or that they use accounts for separate identities: but it is our wish that you take more of a 'contact level view' of people! 17:00:06 <lewellyn> that sentence doesn't parse well :( 17:01:08 <lewellyn> and i think the "high" probably should be omitted from the parenthetical following. 17:01:27 <Mic> The beginning of paragraphs are printed in bold font for me, sometimes ending with the strong-tag, sometimes earlier and sometimes later .. is that actually OK? 17:02:01 <flo> ignore the bold 17:02:06 <flo> strong tags are what matter 17:02:32 <clokep_work> Mook_as: I tried to amke it sound exciting, but it was written piecemeal, feel free to tak esome out. 17:02:53 <clokep_work> lewellyn: Our IRC support is currently from libpurple, so we only support what they support. ;) 17:03:07 <lewellyn> clokep_work: ? 17:03:14 <-- sabret00the has quit (Connection timed out) 17:03:30 <lewellyn> also, shouldn't the sentences following the lead-in colon begin with a capital letter? 17:03:49 --> sabret00the has joined #instantbird 17:04:02 <clokep_work> flo: It's mostly ready. Maybe some of the bug links should be place in paragraph instead of links that say "bug xxx", besides that I didn't have changes to make. 17:04:30 <lewellyn> (i admit that's a style nit) 17:04:41 <Mic> I read through it and it looks good for me too 17:06:15 <clokep_work> lewellyn: What was the ? about? 17:06:42 <lewellyn> lewellyn: Our IRC support is currently from libpurple, so we only support what they support. ;) 17:07:06 <clokep_work> Which part of that is confusing. 17:07:25 <clokep_work> libpurple == Pidgin. 17:08:13 <flo> for what is worth, I don't think blaming libpurple for the things we don't do is a good excuse ;) 17:08:24 <lewellyn> clokep_work: i don't know what that's in reference to. 17:08:34 <lewellyn> irc isn't threaded and i've been up way too many hours :) 17:09:43 <clokep_work> lewellyn: You asked about /ignore support. I don't know if it supports it off the top of my head, but I'm saying if libpurple/pidgin doesn't, then we don't either. 17:09:47 <lewellyn> and i still feel iffy towards the "high" in front of school. 17:09:58 <lewellyn> clokep_work: oh. i don't know if they do either. :) 17:10:18 <clokep_work> And yes, flo, we could add it...my point just being that we haven't made major changes to protocols that I know of? (Except maybe netsoul?) 17:10:19 <lewellyn> but the bad thing is that it sent the /ignore to the channel instead of, well, ignoring it. :) 17:10:59 <clokep_work> I made it just "school" 17:11:08 <flo> lewellyn: ahah :) 17:11:17 <flo> "hey you, I want to ignore you. Oops" 17:11:25 <lewellyn> clokep_work: that's better wording, yes. :) 17:11:26 <clokep_work> It should probably say "/ignore isn't a command, if you really meant to send that, type //ignore" 17:11:42 <clokep_work> lewellyn: File a bug and I might fix it. ;) 17:11:52 <lewellyn> clokep_work: yes. or just send all unrecognized slash-commands as raw to the server ;) 17:11:53 --> jb1 has joined #instantbird 17:12:08 <-- jb has quit (Ping timeout) 17:12:19 <clokep_work> I don't know if libpurple supports that. 17:13:34 <-- jb1 has left #instantbird () 17:13:40 <clokep_work> (And I don't remember IGNORE being a command in IRC...) 17:14:34 <lewellyn> it's not. but at least you let the server handle error messages then :) 17:14:35 <flo> clokep_work: were there still blog posts that you wrote that are posted as written by me? 17:14:49 <clokep_work> flo: Yes, a bunch are. 17:14:49 <flo> I'm currently connected to the mysql database on my terminal, so it's a good time to fix them 17:14:59 <clokep_work> I can find them... 17:15:32 <lewellyn> "ignore Unknown command" is what i get when i use /quote ignore from another client 17:15:44 <lewellyn> seems like a very easy way to punt :) 17:16:15 <clokep_work> flo: At least http://blog.instantbird.org/a41-status-update-april-2011-may-2011.html , http://blog.instantbird.org/a39-status-update-february-2011-march-2011.html 17:16:27 <clokep_work> lewellyn: I agree, it needs to be handled better, please file a bug so we don't forget though! :-D 17:16:57 <clokep_work> And I think I wrote http://blog.instantbird.org/a35-status-update-november-2010-january-2011.html 17:17:05 <clokep_work> And then the ICQ one is correct. 17:17:48 <clokep_work> Yup, that's it. 17:17:54 <flo> fixed 17:17:54 <flo> thanks :) 17:18:21 <clokep_work> Thanks! :) You shuld add UI for that. ;) 17:18:28 <flo> so I really wrote the last 9 posts? 17:18:59 <flo> clokep_work: wanna have a login/password and post yourself? 17:19:26 <clokep_work> flo: Actually I wrote http://blog.instantbird.org/a48-instantbird-1-0-released-in-11-locales.html kind of...I wrote the release notes that those are mostly a copy and paste of. 17:19:43 <flo> done 17:19:43 <lewellyn> clokep_work: gimme a bit :) 17:19:48 <clokep_work> flo: Yes, I could post things more easily then. :) 17:20:07 <flo> can you /msg me the MD5 of a password? 17:20:41 <clokep_work> Eek two months between posts! 17:20:44 <clokep_work> Yes. 17:23:23 <-- sabret00the has quit (Connection timed out) 17:23:50 --> sabret00the has joined #instantbird 17:27:28 --> DGMurdockIII has joined #instantbird 17:40:52 <-- Mic has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.1a1pre) 17:47:09 <-- sabret00the has quit (Connection timed out) 17:47:52 --> sabret00the has joined #instantbird 17:54:33 * clokep_work is now known as clokep_away 17:56:48 <-- flo has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.1a1pre) 17:57:48 <instantbot> Just appeared in Blog@instantbird.org - http://blog.instantbird.org/ : 17:57:49 <instantbot> http://blog.instantbird.org/n51-feedback-received.html - Feedback received 18:01:22 <lewellyn> clokep_away: which component should i use for irc and qq bugs? :) 18:01:53 <-- FeuerFliege has left #instantbird () 18:02:35 <lewellyn> and i'm still unsure how i feel about this sentence :/ 18:02:36 <lewellyn> Well, ok but we wish that you take more of a 'contact level view' of people: 18:03:49 <lewellyn> something like the change i edited (i'm not sure if they're showing up to you) 18:03:58 <clokep_away> lewellyn: purplexpcom in general is for "protocol stuff". 18:04:42 <lewellyn> that's what i thought. i noticed that twitter and netsoul had their own subcats, so i was wondering if i missed something. 18:06:04 --> FeuerFliege has joined #instantbird 18:06:42 <-- FeuerFliege has left #instantbird () 18:08:28 <clokep_away> Nope. 18:08:53 <clokep_away> They have their own because we maintain them to a larger to degree (Twitter is all our own code and flo added a bit to netsoul). 18:11:13 --> linuxwizard has joined #instantbird 18:12:56 <lewellyn> figured 18:13:01 <instantbot> New purplexpcom - General bug 1020 filed by matt@greenviolet.net. 18:13:04 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1020 nor, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, IRC sends unrecognized commands to active conversation 18:13:15 <lewellyn> there's 1! 18:13:54 <-- sabret00the has quit (Connection timed out) 18:14:01 <lewellyn> clokep_away: what's the status of bug #576? 18:14:04 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=576 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Replace QQ with JavaScript protocol 18:14:20 <lewellyn> you didn't start work on it, right? 18:14:24 --> sabret00the has joined #instantbird 18:14:55 <-- mmkmou has left #instantbird () 18:18:33 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 18:19:29 <instantbot> New purplexpcom - General bug 1021 filed by matt@greenviolet.net. 18:19:31 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1021 maj, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, Replace unsupported libpurple QQ with libqq-pidgin 18:22:00 <lewellyn> i added #576 to #1021's See Also list since there's no "Conflicts" in bugzilla, after all these years :/ 18:29:25 <clokep_away> lewellyn: bug 576 you could pretty much have hijacked. 18:29:28 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=576 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Replace QQ with JavaScript protocol 18:29:38 <clokep_away> No we didn't start working on it...was more of a "QQ protocol sucks and needs to be replaced.) 18:29:51 <lewellyn> i wanted to leave it in case someone enterprising eventually wants to adopt it :) 18:30:54 <clokep_away> It won't be me, I don't know Chinese. ;) 18:32:38 <lewellyn> you don't need to. you just need to speak binary, apparently :D 18:32:53 <lewellyn> http://code.google.com/p/libqq-pidgin/wiki/QQ2010Protocol 18:35:05 <-- waynenguyen has quit (Connection reset by peer) 18:35:34 <clokep_away> Yes, but it helps to know what error messages and such mean. :P 18:35:44 <clokep_away> Or to be able to use the official client. ;) 18:41:33 <-- sabret00the has quit (Connection timed out) 18:41:58 --> sabret00the has joined #instantbird 18:51:00 --> gerard-majax has joined #instantbird 18:59:53 <-- sabret00the has quit (Connection timed out) 19:00:29 --> sabret00the has joined #instantbird 19:07:14 <-- chrisccoulson has quit (Ping timeout) 19:10:31 --> flo has joined #instantbird 19:10:31 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo flo 19:12:48 <flo> clokep_away: is this the only change I need to make for my changes from yesterday to look good to you http://pastebin.instantbird.com/937 ? 19:16:02 <clokep_away> I mean either way works fine. Some of the jsprotohelper stuff could probably just refer to the handles of this.base functions instead of returning the result of calling the function. 19:16:12 <clokep_away> But, yes that was the only thing I noticed. 19:19:00 <flo> "just refer to the handles of this.base functions instead of returning the result of calling the function" I didn't understand that part :-S 19:20:13 --> FeuerFliege has joined #instantbird 19:20:18 <clokep_away> Yeah, it was confusing. So in http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/diff/6663790446e3/purple/purplexpcom/src/jsProtoHelper.jsm couldn't you actually just do: |requestBuddyInfo: this._base.requestBuddyInfo| 19:20:19 <flo> bug 1019 is easier to fix than I thought :) 19:20:24 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1019 nor, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, Participant tooltips do not appear if tab bar not shown 19:21:59 <-- sabret00the has quit (Connection timed out) 19:22:31 --> sabret00the has joined #instantbird 19:22:35 --> chrisccoulson has joined #instantbird 19:24:23 <flo> clokep_away: is this about https://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/6663790446e3#l5.7 or https://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/6663790446e3#l5.15 ? 19:26:02 <clokep_away> flo: The former, but really the whole file is structured that way. 19:26:06 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 19:26:07 * ChanServ sets mode +h Mic 19:26:12 <clokep_away> s/the whole file/ the whole forward protocol part/ 19:26:42 <flo> the current code calls this._base.requestBuddyInfo with this = this._base 19:26:55 <flo> the code you wrote would use "this" as the this value. 19:30:27 <clokep_away> Ah OK. 19:30:30 <clokep_away> Never mind then. :) 19:31:41 <flo> Mook_as: I'm working on actionable messages. Do you happen to remember why you used the nsIDOMEventListener interface for actions? 19:32:44 <flo> Mook_as: was there an intent to use the |event| parameter? 19:33:04 <flo> (if no, why not nsIRunnable?) 19:33:43 <Mook_as> I think I wanted 1) something that is [function] and 2) can carry data? 19:34:14 <-- ecaron has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.0) 19:34:21 --> ecaron has joined #instantbird 19:34:27 <-- ecaron has left #instantbird () 19:35:42 <flo> can carry data? 19:36:21 <Mook_as> gets passed something in that I can use as function arguments, IIRC 19:36:23 --> igorko has joined #instantbird 19:37:53 <flo> did you intend to pass the message object? 19:38:44 <Mook_as> hmm. I can't remember; it was either that, or some sort of data about the event (mouse, modifier keys, etc.) 19:38:57 <-- igorko has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.1a1pre) 19:39:41 --> Nitrox has joined #instantbird 19:40:18 <Mook_as> bbl, food 19:45:01 <-- sabret00the has quit (Connection timed out) 19:45:31 --> sabret00the has joined #instantbird 20:06:34 <-- sabret00the has quit (Connection timed out) 20:07:04 --> sabret00the has joined #instantbird 20:27:35 <-- gerard-majax has quit (Ping timeout) 20:30:48 --> mistraven has joined #instantbird 20:30:55 <-- mistraven has left #instantbird () 20:32:47 <-- sabret00the has quit (Connection timed out) 20:33:35 --> sabret00the has joined #instantbird 20:37:42 <-- FeuerFliege has left #instantbird () 20:52:25 <-- sabret00the has quit (Connection timed out) 20:53:07 --> sabret00the has joined #instantbird 21:04:05 <-- aleth has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.1a1pre) 21:05:19 <-- clokep_away has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 21:07:34 --> EionRobb has joined #instantbird 21:15:00 <-- Mic has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.1a1pre) 21:25:34 <-- sabret00the has quit (Connection timed out) 21:26:11 --> sabret00the has joined #instantbird 21:30:25 <-- Nitrox has quit (Quit: Connection to internet lost) 21:34:31 --> hunsly has joined #instantbird 21:38:13 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 21:46:27 <-- sabret00the has quit (Connection timed out) 21:47:12 --> sabret00the has joined #instantbird 22:11:37 <-- sabret00the has quit (Connection timed out) 22:12:12 --> sabret00the has joined #instantbird 22:15:27 <flo> retweet works! :) 22:29:48 <-- sabret00the has quit (Connection timed out) 22:30:15 --> sabret00the has joined #instantbird 22:34:02 <instantbot> florian@instantbird.org added attachment 806 to bug 682. 22:34:04 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=682 enh, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Reply to and retweet actions on twitter 22:39:50 <-- EionRobb has quit (Ping timeout) 22:40:38 <flo> Good night! :) 22:40:43 <-- flo has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.1a1pre) 22:48:06 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/a370c37490f7 - Florian Quèze - Bug 1019 - Participant tooltips do not appear if tab bar not shown. 22:48:07 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/b500a91e30e7 - Florian Quèze - Bug 721 - Follow-up to address clokep's review comment. 22:49:22 --> EionRobb has joined #instantbird 22:50:16 <-- sabret00the has quit (Connection timed out) 22:50:45 --> sabret00the has joined #instantbird 23:41:08 <-- aleth has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.1a1pre) 23:41:35 <-- hunsly has quit (Ping timeout) 23:52:19 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 23:52:19 * ChanServ sets mode +h clokep