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00:01:46 <clokep> Thanks for that file though, has a few helpful things. :) 00:02:08 <EionRobb> there's an xmpp interface for office communicator now, isn't there? 00:02:22 <EionRobb> even does jingle->sip conversion 00:03:27 <-- Mic has left #instantbird () 00:04:47 <clokep> Oh? Do you happen to know the name by any chance? 00:05:06 <EionRobb> I was reading a pdf about it last week 00:05:17 <EionRobb> it might only be a new thing in office communicator 2010 or something 00:05:46 <clokep> Oh, it's part of the server? Interesting. 00:05:58 <clokep> We've already upgraded to 2010. 00:07:36 <EionRobb> oh, looks like it's part of 2007 too http://support.microsoft.com/lifecycle/?LN=en-us&p1=14471&x=18&y=7 00:08:17 <clokep> Hmmm...I wonder if we have it enabled. 00:08:38 <EionRobb> this one looks better: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ee830332.aspx 00:08:56 <clokep> I mean I could just do all my IMing through the Office Communicator...but I'm not a big fan of sending ALL my traffic through their server. :P 00:09:14 <EionRobb> :) 00:10:01 <clokep> Hmm....I'll have to give it a try, thanks for the info. :) 00:10:42 <clokep> Bah last function I need to compile is g_usleep... 00:11:32 <EionRobb> eww... why would sipe need that :) 00:12:39 <clokep> EionRobb: http://pastebin.instantbird.com/910 part of reading the data it seems. 00:13:12 <EionRobb> prpls aren't supposed to be blocking 00:13:26 <EionRobb> (although I blatantly ignore that in the skype plugin... that bit needs a rewrite) 00:13:51 <EionRobb> you could #define g_usleep() out 00:14:35 <clokep> What's out do? 00:14:56 <EionRobb> oh, I should have put quotes around that. I meant you could get rid of g_usleep with a #define 00:15:13 <clokep> Oh, right. 00:15:22 <clokep> I just ocpied the code from gtimer.c. 00:15:27 <EionRobb> :) 00:16:37 <clokep> Ah, well it loads. :) 00:16:59 <clokep> I've been thinking of compiling your Skype plug-in btw. I get ried of using the Skype UI sometimes. :p 00:20:46 <EionRobb> I think of that too 00:21:01 <EionRobb> it'd be good to set up a dev env on my machine for instantbird 00:21:30 <EionRobb> although oddly, I get more requests for okcupid prpl to be compiled for instantbird than skype 00:21:49 <clokep> I saw somewhere you were working on a skypekit version? How tricky is the licensing w/ that? 00:21:58 <EionRobb> impossible 00:22:02 <clokep> We were kind of unmotivated to look into it much once we saw you have to pay to even see the license. 00:22:17 <clokep> Ah, that's unfortunate. :( 00:22:35 <EionRobb> their licence specifically forbids GPL but also forbids any other open-source license 00:22:44 <EionRobb> that's from using the sdk though, if you rewrote their sdk you'd be ok 00:22:58 <clokep> Ah, interesting. 00:22:59 <EionRobb> the skypekit runtime though is bound to your app 00:23:21 <EionRobb> I started reverse-engineering it, but once they added the encryption, I gave up 00:23:27 <clokep> Right, which would be a little tricky but maybe doing it. 00:23:49 <clokep> Have you seen http://skype-open-source.blogspot.com/ ? 00:24:18 <EionRobb> yeah, been following it closely 00:25:12 <clokep> Mmhmm. I haven't looked at much of the code though. 00:25:25 <clokep> Who knows what'll change when it becomes part of Microsoft though. 00:29:13 <-- hunsly has quit (Ping timeout) 00:33:51 <EionRobb> maybe they just bought it so that they could have a skype connection in lync/ocs 00:38:19 <clokep> Hahaha, corporations won't want Skype using their bandwidth. :P 00:38:57 <EionRobb> probably why they came out with 'Skype for Business' 00:39:08 <EionRobb> which disables supernoding and file transfers 00:39:48 <clokep> Ah, I must have missed that part. :-/ 00:55:01 <-- EionRobb has quit (Ping timeout) 00:55:37 --> EionRobb has joined #instantbird 00:59:37 <instantbot> New purplexpcom - General bug 976 filed by email@example.com. 00:59:39 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=976 enh, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Support Microsoft Office Communicator protocol (SIPE) 01:21:04 <instantbot> firstname.lastname@example.org added attachment 783 to bug 976. 01:21:07 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=976 enh, --, ---, clokep, ASSI, Support Microsoft Office Communicator protocol (SIPE) 02:00:39 <-- MattATobin has quit (Quit: I'm a trifle deaf in this ear. Speak a little louder next time.) 02:03:46 --> MattATobin has joined #instantbird 02:09:17 --> mepine has joined #instantbird 02:26:14 <-- linuxwizard has left #instantbird () 02:58:34 --> jk1 has joined #instantbird 03:00:57 <-- clokep has left #instantbird () 03:06:28 <jk1> hey guys, is there a way in instantbird to auto accept buddy requests ? 03:06:50 <jk1> this is usefull when using meebo / meebo me widget with instantbird 03:14:41 --> deOmega has joined #instantbird 03:16:02 <deOmega> jk1 I think you may have to wait a bit for someone to answer you. I believe that most of the guys are in bed by now or something 03:16:39 <jk1> thanks deOmega - will try again later at a better time 03:17:25 <deOmega> No problem. they are usually eager to respond to questions, so if they do not respond, you know they are either away or something. 03:17:40 <deOmega> if you know how tor ead teh logs, leave a message and say you will check teh logs for a reply 03:17:57 <deOmega> the link to the logs is at the top 03:18:12 <deOmega> .............. 03:19:24 <deOmega> hey guys, regarding this: 03:19:28 <deOmega> if I'm "busy" (in the status), no conversation can open, they stay in the contact list until I click them to see what's there, or I change my status (they popup automatically when I switch back to available) 03:19:54 <deOmega> I really believe that this could solve a whole lot of issues. I hope it is implemented :) 03:20:42 <deOmega> This could solve issues regarding privacy, as well as the problems gamers complained about regarding new messages. I really think it is a huge move. 03:26:40 <instantbot> email@example.com set the Resolution field on bug 789 to WORKSFORME. 03:26:42 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=789 nor, --, ---, nobody, RESO WORKSFORME, Privacy, status 03:26:54 <deOmega> wouldn't it handle bugs: 406, 926 ? 03:31:18 <-- deOmega has left #instantbird () 03:36:55 <-- mepine has quit (Ping timeout) 03:37:00 <instantbot> firstname.lastname@example.org set the Resolution field on bug 787 to WORKSFORME. 03:37:03 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=787 nor, --, ---, nobody, RESO WORKSFORME, Status change logging 03:39:52 <instantbot> email@example.com set the Resolution field on bug 565 to WORKSFORME. 03:39:54 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=565 maj, --, ---, nobody, RESO WORKSFORME, Distortions below the text entry box 03:50:42 --> linuxwizard has joined #instantbird 04:32:08 <-- DGMurdockIII has quit (Quit: get satisfied! Â :: core-networks.de Â«Â«Â« (Gamers.IRC) Â»Â»Â» gamersirc.net ::) 04:43:00 <-- Nitrox_ has quit (Ping timeout) 05:18:17 <-- jk1 has left #instantbird () 05:28:40 --> jb has joined #instantbird 05:36:17 --> Nitrox has joined #instantbird 05:39:18 <-- EionRobb has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 06:07:32 <-- linuxwizard has left #instantbird () 06:39:39 <-- jb has quit (Ping timeout) 06:46:13 --> EionRobb has joined #instantbird 06:50:45 --> hunsly has joined #instantbird 06:51:29 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 06:51:29 * ChanServ sets mode +h Mic 06:51:39 <Mic> Good morning. 07:29:33 --> waynenguyen has joined #instantbird 07:30:25 --> BUTTcheese has joined #instantbird 07:30:40 <-- BUTTcheese has left #instantbird () 07:31:20 --> decider2012 has joined #instantbird 07:31:35 <decider2012> hello, can I log into QQ on instant bird? 07:33:26 <decider2012> anyone know? 07:34:12 <EionRobb> yes 07:34:45 <EionRobb> oops sorry, wrong window 07:34:48 <EionRobb> that could be confusing :) 07:35:37 <-- decider2012 has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.87 [SeaMonkey 2.2/20110706120824]) 07:37:13 <-- gerard-majax has quit (Ping timeout) 07:39:51 <-- waynenguyen has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.1a1pre) 07:40:08 --> waynenguyen has joined #instantbird 07:46:35 --> decider2012 has joined #instantbird 07:46:48 <decider2012> Hello, I am trying to log into QQ, but it's not letting me log in 07:46:59 <decider2012> works ok in the QQ program 07:50:49 <-- EionRobb has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 07:51:00 <decider2012> How do I change it from port 8000 to 443 ? 07:52:08 <decider2012> Is the server type set to UDP? 07:52:16 <decider2012> that is what it says in QQ program 07:57:12 <-- decider2012 has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.87 [SeaMonkey 2.2/20110706120824]) 08:12:52 <-- chrisccoulson has quit (Ping timeout) 08:13:28 <-- waynenguyen has quit (Ping timeout) 08:22:22 --> waynenguyen has joined #instantbird 08:25:26 <-- vicnet has quit (Ping timeout) 08:29:06 <-- waynenguyen has quit (Ping timeout) 08:33:21 --> waynenguyen has joined #instantbird 08:35:41 --> chrisccoulson has joined #instantbird 08:37:30 <-- waynenguyen has quit (Ping timeout) 08:38:15 --> jb has joined #instantbird 08:38:55 --> waynenguyen has joined #instantbird 08:41:13 --> vicnet has joined #instantbird 09:00:45 <-- waynenguyen has quit (Ping timeout) 09:02:18 --> Even has joined #instantbird 09:02:18 * ChanServ sets mode +o Even 09:03:08 <-- Even has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.1a1pre) 09:03:25 --> gerard-majax has joined #instantbird 09:03:28 --> Even has joined #instantbird 09:03:28 * ChanServ sets mode +o Even 09:06:12 <-- jb has quit (Ping timeout) 09:10:24 --> mmkmou has joined #instantbird 10:12:59 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 10:12:59 * ChanServ sets mode +h clokep 10:29:41 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 10:31:37 <-- mmkmou has quit (Ping timeout) 10:46:23 --> mmkmou has joined #instantbird 11:00:36 --> Moonlight has joined #instantbird 11:01:53 <-- clokep has left #instantbird () 11:42:57 --> clokep_work has joined #instantbird 11:42:57 * ChanServ sets mode +h clokep_work 11:46:34 <clokep_work> Good morning! 11:50:09 <-- micahg has quit (Connection reset by peer) 11:54:05 --> Andrey has joined #instantbird 11:58:20 <-- Tonnes has quit (Connection reset by peer) 12:06:28 <-- vicnet has quit (Ping timeout) 12:08:48 --> deOmega has joined #instantbird 12:09:14 --> jb has joined #instantbird 12:22:19 --> vicnet has joined #instantbird 12:34:13 <-- aleth has left #instantbird () 12:54:54 <-- jb has left #instantbird () 13:03:21 <-- rikki1 has quit (Connection reset by peer) 13:03:24 --> rikki has joined #instantbird 13:15:15 <-- Mic has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.1a1pre) 13:23:27 <-- deOmega has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.1a1pre) 13:24:29 --> deOmega has joined #instantbird 13:32:35 --> micahg has joined #instantbird 13:46:22 <flo> clokep_work: hello :). I assumed drive-by review comments were welcome ;) 13:48:37 <clokep_work> flo: Yes they were! Apparently the full patch is 1.2 MB so too big for Bugzilla, but not really necessary yet anyway. :) 13:49:00 <clokep_work> The ENABLE_NLS...what is NLS? Do you know? :-/ 13:50:23 <clokep_work> Besides that I agree with your comments. :) 13:51:15 <flo> I don't know exactly but it's related to localization 13:51:38 <clokep_work> Ah, OK. So just remove the whole block and replace it with our localization stuff. Got it. 13:51:38 <flo> I don't know if it's needed to keep it, but I haven't had to undef it in other places 13:51:48 <clokep_work> I forgot to throw it on my thumb drive before coming to work today though. :( 13:53:07 <clokep_work> Ah I see. 13:57:09 <flo> google found me a page saying "internationalization + localization = Native Language Support i18n" 13:57:31 <clokep_work> Interesting. 13:57:59 <clokep_work> The g_base64_* issue...it's added to each file that has the issue, is there some way to do a define across files (or perhaps I'm not understanding how exactly defines work)? 13:58:15 <clokep_work> I would prefer to only do it once. :-D 13:59:34 <-- flo has quit (Input/output error) 14:00:15 --> flo has joined #instantbird 14:00:15 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo flo 14:00:54 <flo> crashed :( 14:02:14 <flo> about the g_base64 defines, isn't there a header file that's included by all other files? 14:02:31 <flo> you tried sipe-common.h What about sipe-backend.h or some others? 14:03:03 <clokep_work> It then threw an error that purple_base64_* wasn't defined. 14:05:39 <-- Andrey has quit (Client exited) 14:07:49 <clokep_work> Although...I think I tried to redefine the whole definition, not just the same line copied to sipe-common or sipe-backend. 14:08:02 <clokep_work> Do #includes occur before #defines then? 14:20:19 <flo> hm, probably 14:20:45 <flo> otherwise defining something in a header would be mostly useless 14:20:52 <clokep_work> Heh, true. :) 14:25:50 <-- mmkmou has quit (Ping timeout) 14:43:14 --> mmkmou has joined #instantbird 14:45:27 <deOmega> hi. when i file bugs and feel they are no longer relevant or resolved onbe way or another...is it fine to just mark them all resolved? 14:45:53 <clokep_work> deOmega: Yes, just mark them as RESOLVED WORKSFORME or RESOLVED INVALID 14:46:07 <clokep_work> What've been doing is fine. :) 14:46:23 <deOmega> ok. will do. thanks 14:46:26 <clokep_work> (And thanks for closing them as, it gets rid of some of the cruft when wading through bug reports.) 14:47:42 <deOmega> indeed my pleasure 14:50:46 <deOmega> gonna close Bug 689 14:50:49 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=689 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Spellcheck suggestions not visible in context menu 14:51:50 <clokep_work> deOmega: Are you sure that's still not an issue? flo was able to reproduce. 14:52:38 <-- rikki has quit (Connection reset by peer) 14:52:39 <deOmega> hmm. i have not seen it as an issue a while. Thanks, i will leave it just in case 14:52:42 --> rikki has joined #instantbird 14:53:12 <deOmega> do you guys have an answer for that guy that shows up late each night with a question. let me find it 14:53:49 <clokep_work> Probably. ;) I forget what he asked though. 14:54:19 <deOmega> 08:24:43 <jk1> hey guys - just wondering if there is anyway to auto-accept/add buddies (like you can in trillian) in instantbird 14:54:19 <deOmega> 08:25:00 <jk1> this is very useful if you use meebo / meebo me widget 14:54:36 <deOmega> he has asked like 2 days in a row i think, but i cannot answer him 14:56:34 --> mepine has joined #instantbird 14:57:34 --> gmoro_ has joined #instantbird 15:17:26 <-- mepine has quit (Quit: é¨ç·£ä¹) 15:20:49 <deOmega> have a great day 15:20:55 <-- deOmega has left #instantbird () 15:29:07 <flo> there's no way to do that "out of the box". It could be possible to do that as an add-on, and if it's not as easy as it should, we would be happy to accept the changes needed to make this easy (or even make them ourself) 15:34:39 <clokep_work> What is the "meebo me widget"? 15:47:51 <clokep_work> Can you not just tell the network to automatically accept all users? 15:47:56 <clokep_work> (I found out what Meebo Me is btw. ;)) 15:53:00 <-- gmoro_ has quit (Quit: Leaving) 16:04:55 --> igorko has joined #instantbird 16:05:54 --> gmoro_ has joined #instantbird 16:06:10 --> Mook_as has joined #instantbird 16:09:46 --> mistraven has joined #instantbird 16:29:39 --> myk1 has joined #instantbird 17:11:47 --> mokush has joined #instantbird 17:13:39 <-- gerard-majax has quit (Ping timeout) 17:17:10 <-- mistraven has quit (Ping timeout) 17:29:33 <-- mokush has quit (Client exited) 17:40:17 --> gerard-majax has joined #instantbird 18:06:31 --> mistraven has joined #instantbird 18:12:48 <GeekShadow> hey 18:16:20 <clokep_work> Hello. 18:17:07 <-- mmkmou has left #instantbird () 18:24:56 <GeekShadow> is it possible in instantbird to register a new account on a xmpp server ? 18:26:10 <clokep_work> Does the XMPP spec even allow for that? 18:26:15 <clokep_work> Is it possible in Pidgin? 18:28:08 <GeekShadow> clokep_work, in xmpp you can register a new account 18:28:36 <GeekShadow> the API allow that 18:29:28 <clokep_work> Intersting. 18:29:47 <clokep_work> I'm fairly certain we don't support that (I don't think Pidgin does either, I don't know if libpurple itself does...I doubt it). 18:41:34 --> Tonnes has joined #instantbird 18:52:15 --> linuxwizard has joined #instantbird 18:54:54 <-- hunsly has quit (Ping timeout) 19:10:42 <-- mistraven has left #instantbird () 19:10:44 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 19:10:44 * ChanServ sets mode +h Mic 19:12:05 <Mic> Good evening 19:18:04 <clokep_work> Howdy Mic. 19:24:39 <GeekShadow> mic does instantbird allow to create xmpp account ? 19:25:49 <-- chrisccoulson has quit (Quit: Ex-Chat) 19:26:56 <Mic> No, I don't think so. 19:27:36 <clokep_work> I'td be neat if you tried to log in and it popped and asked if you wanted to register though. ;) 19:27:40 <Mic> How would you set it up 19:27:52 <Mic> Yes, I thought that as well. 19:28:38 <Mic> It should make sure to tell the user that this could also be the result of a typo in their user name 19:29:42 <Mic> " _Create account_. Ops, I typoed. let me _correct my username_ ." 19:32:07 <clokep_work> Mic: Of course, it'd have to be "Account information invalid, please re-enter password for <account name>" with a back button to re-enter the account name, and a button "Register an account" 19:32:11 <clokep_work> That was a poor description... 19:35:19 <Mic> How recent is the indexed code on lxr.instantbird.org? 19:35:41 <Mic> Does it automatically update or is it necessary that someone does that? 19:36:47 <clokep_work> Mic: something like that is what I meant http://pastebin.instantbird.com/911 19:37:04 <clokep_work> It's supposed to automatically update, there hasn't been a check-in in a while, it should be up to date. 19:39:05 <clokep_work> Is it out of date? 19:39:15 <clokep_work> (I'm sure flo or Even can kick it off manually too.) 19:40:16 <Mic> No, the main screen shows "Pidgin 2.6.3" which is hopelessly out of date 19:40:42 <clokep_work> Ohhhh. 19:40:57 <clokep_work> I don't think lxr understands monotone, so it has a folder it indexes for Pidgin. 19:41:20 <clokep_work> Once they switch to hg we should index it though. :) 19:41:50 <clokep_work> If you need a newer Pidgin on there, flo might update it. 19:41:53 <clokep_work> There's always grep there. ;) 19:46:27 <Mic> I wonder how you install lightweight themes on programs other than Firefox 19:48:29 <-- Moonlight has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.0) 19:50:21 <Mic> The css I copied from the Fx tab theme contains :a few -moz-lwtheme pseudo classes 19:51:14 <Mic> Which decides if something is applied when a lightweight theme/Persona is active 19:53:00 <clokep_work> Aren't they still xpis? 19:54:11 --> mmkmou has joined #instantbird 19:57:10 <-- Suiseiseki has quit (Ping timeout) 19:58:02 --> Suiseiseki has joined #instantbird 20:01:16 --> gigigi has joined #instantbird 20:03:19 <-- gigigi has quit (Quit: ) 20:03:20 --> jb has joined #instantbird 20:04:36 <Mic> I've installed several and can't find them anywhere on this computer. 20:04:39 <Mic> hmm. 20:05:18 <Mic> Meditate on this I will. 20:05:19 <Mic> bbl 20:07:59 <Mic> (and looking into LightweightThemeManager.jsm might be helpful;) 20:18:20 <clokep_work> Hah. 20:18:29 <clokep_work> I don't know where they get installed, but I thought it was just in your extensions folder... 20:19:50 <Mook_as> they get installed as a custom addon type via LightweightThemeManager, yeah 20:34:04 <-- clokep_work has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 20:37:23 --> EionRobb has joined #instantbird 21:02:09 <flo> GeekShadow, clokep: XMPP allows (on some servers) the creation of an account directly from the IM client. Pidgin supports that. We currently don't (mostly because I haven't figured out a good UI for it at the time I initially wrote the account wizard for 0.1). 21:03:38 <GeekShadow> flo ok 21:03:45 <flo> Mic: lxr is updated every night for the "instantbird" code. I put a new Pidgin version by hand "sometimes". I would be interested in having the latest (not yet released) code indexed so that when I find a bug I can check if it's already fixed before reporting it, but automating that with monotone is painful, we will probably have it once they are on hg :). 21:05:17 --> chrisccoulson has joined #instantbird 21:12:28 <-- jb has quit (Ping timeout) 21:14:01 --> igorko1 has joined #instantbird 21:14:41 <-- myk1 has quit (Ping timeout) 21:14:41 <-- igorko has quit (Ping timeout) 21:19:02 <-- igorko1 has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.0) 21:27:45 <Mic> ok. 21:31:46 <Mic> Good night. 21:31:49 <-- Mic has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.1a1pre) 21:52:51 <-- gmoro_ has quit (Quit: Leaving) 22:01:43 <-- mmkmou has quit (Ping timeout) 22:56:19 --> hunsly has joined #instantbird 23:52:20 <-- Mook_as has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.87-rdmsoft [XULRunner 188.8.131.52/20101203074205]) 23:58:54 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 23:58:54 * ChanServ sets mode +h clokep