#instantbird log on 08 03 2011

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00:23:13 <clokep> Hey EionRobb Did you ever get any of your protocols compiled for Instantbird?
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01:04:35 <EionRobb> clokep: haven't tried yet
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07:13:28 <Mic> Good morning
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08:54:44 <flo> hello :)
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10:14:11 <mmkmou> hello flo 
10:15:00 <mmkmou> A long time 
10:15:57 <mmkmou> we've seen you
10:17:03 <flo> I was here yesterday ;)
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10:38:12 <clokep> Hello.
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11:44:56 <instantbot> michal.stanke@mikk.cz added attachment 769 to bug 933.
11:44:58 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=933 min, --, ---, nobody, NEW, http://instantbird.com/'locale' not found
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11:52:05 <clokep_work> Good morning.
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12:16:10 <instantbot> michal.stanke@mikk.cz added attachment 770 to bug 933.
12:16:11 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=933 min, --, ---, nobody, NEW, http://instantbird.com/'locale' not found
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12:30:14 <Moonlight> hello,guys. is it possible to add new contacts in ICQ protocol? i was trying yesterday, but in the end i just launched miranda =(
12:32:00 <clokep_work> Moonlight: File > Add buddy I should do it.
12:33:11 <Moonlight> i did it, well if this really works than it`s my own problem, not with instantbird
12:33:16 <Moonlight> anyway thanks
12:33:36 <clokep_work> I can't say I've tried it in a while, but it should work. ;)
12:33:44 <Moonlight> =)
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12:37:01 <clokep_work> You can check the error console to see if there's an errors, I'm not super familiar with ICQ though so I won't be much help beyond this. :(
12:37:13 <clokep_work> You could file a bug though if you're still having isues.
12:38:09 <Moonlight> i`ll try next time to check it, but i add contacts in icq maybe ones in a year =)
12:39:41 <Moonlight> nowadays people begin to use xmpp\google talk , thanks god
12:39:58 <Moonlight> but my girlfriend not
12:40:00 <Moonlight> =(
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12:43:20 <clokep_work> Yeah, newer (open) protocols tend to work a bit better. :) Convince her to use Instantbird and XMPP? :-D
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12:44:57 <Moonlight> great idea, instantbird looks cute, i think she will like it
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12:46:06 * Moonlight is making screenshots
12:47:19 <Moonlight> next step is to use songbird and chatzilla, and i will be totally XUL-powered =)
12:47:58 <flo> why chatzilla?
12:48:04 <clokep_work> flo beat me to it. :(
12:48:13 <clokep_work> Moonlight: There's screenshots on the website by the way.
12:48:46 <clokep_work> http://instantbird.com/features.html has a bunch, and there's a page somewhere with more...
12:49:17 <Moonlight> my own would be more decisive ))
12:49:40 <Mic> I can also offer one: http://img808.imageshack.us/img808/526/instantbirdhellokittyed.png
12:50:09 <Moonlight> flo: i prefer to use specialized software for every task
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12:50:40 <Moonlight> maybe irc in instantbird is good, i should check
12:51:12 <Moonlight> but in miranda it was awfull
12:51:14 <Mic> What do you consider a good IRC client?
12:51:17 <flo> if it's not good enough, please tell us why :)
12:51:44 <Moonlight> good irc client = kvirc but not on qt )
12:52:30 <Moonlight> abyway it`s just matter of habit
12:52:47 <Moonlight> and i`m searching something similar to kvirc
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12:56:47 <Moonlight_IB> wow, it`s like i`m in a jabber conference :D
12:58:21 <Moonlight_IB> but can`t find a key to complete nicknames
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12:58:44 <Mic> There's an extension for completion
12:58:49 <Mic> It's called "tab complete"
12:58:57 <Moonlight_IB> thanks
12:59:02 <Mic> You can search and install it from the add-ons manager
12:59:06 <Mic> No restart required.
12:59:26 <Moonlight_IB> and is there any menu to ban\kick\voice etc. ?
13:00:11 <Mic> No, clokep's rewriting the IRC code and UI enhancements are on the list iirc
13:00:35 <clokep_work> It's a long list though.
13:01:11 <flo> isn't it faster to type /ban <nick> anyway? (given tab complete gives completion on both command names and nick names)
13:01:25 <flo> using the mouse to open a menu is very slow
13:02:18 <Moonlight_IB> you are right, but first i need to know this commands ) 
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13:03:14 <clokep_work> Moonlight_IB: /help will tell you the commands available in the current conversation.
13:03:27 <clokep_work> And /help <some command name> will tell you the full help for that command.
13:03:57 <Moonlight_IB> awesome :D
13:04:36 <Moonlight_IB> ok, i think i`ll use instantbird as a replacement for kvirc and miranda for a while
13:05:05 <Moonlight_IB> thanks everybody
13:06:20 <Moonlight_IB> by the way, i can`t find "tab complete" with addons manager, but i see it on the site
13:10:50 <Moonlight_IB> does anybody have this problem?
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13:17:31 <clokep_work> Moonlight: It should be in both, unless you're using a nightly, then it might not show up.
13:17:50 <Moonlight> no, i use 1.0
13:18:03 <clokep_work> Yeah it should show up in both AFAIK.
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13:18:42 <Moonlight> hmmm, maybe some restart would help >_>
13:18:43 <flo> I would be interested in myk's relative timestamp suggestion. I've a WIP to change the timestamp dynamically when the bubble is hovered to add the date before the time when the message is not from today. Unfortunately it wasn't reliable, there were some cases where the mouseover event wasn't fired :(
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13:30:56 <flo> Mook: I would like to reproduce the flap_connection_destroy_cb crash on a platform where I could valgrind it, to have the stack of the free call ;).
13:31:50 <Moonlight> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5922718/tab.PNG
13:31:52 <Moonlight> =(
13:32:09 <flo> + the situation causing the crash is a pointer pointing to already freed memory, so the bug may very well occur without the application crashing. The behavior is undefined when the bug occurs :-(
13:43:56 <clokep_meeting> Moonlight, I think the search algorithm just sucks and you need to provide "more" of the name (or a full word perhaps).
13:45:25 <Moonlight> i`m just showing that "tab complete" can`t be found at all. if i`m typing tab complete = nothing is found
13:45:54 <Moonlight> can you find tab complete in your im?
13:45:58 <clokep_meeting> Isn't it called "TabComplete" one word?
13:46:25 <clokep_meeting> Ah it's not. Never mind.
13:46:48 <clokep_meeting> I'm not sure why it's not showing up then.
13:46:49 <Moonlight> well, i`m not lucky with this tab-stuff
13:47:06 <clokep_meeting> But if you found it on teh website you can just install it from there, not a big deal. :)
13:47:29 <Moonlight> yes, i can. just trying to find kind of bug =))
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14:05:28 <instantbot> michal.stanke@mikk.cz requested review from the wind for attachment 770 on bug 933.
14:05:31 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=933 min, --, ---, nobody, NEW, http://instantbird.com/'locale' not found
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14:26:50 <clokep_meeting> Anything good in it? ;)
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15:23:17 <Mic> I tried adding Tab Complete here as well: I only found it after searching for "complete" and now it seems the download has started but is stuck right at the beginning :( 
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15:36:26 <Mic> hmm, it's not the download. It fails installing it with no progress on the bar (there was a separate "Downloading..." label for the download which I failed to see earlier)
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17:59:29 <igorko> what status in IRC means blue flag?
18:02:10 <igorko> someone should add hint for those icons(star etc) description
18:02:17 <igorko> flo: 
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18:08:17 <werwolf> igorko: screeshot?
18:08:56 <clokep_meeting> igorko: The flag should be the creator of the room.
18:08:56 <igorko> of the flag?
18:09:03 <igorko> i see
18:09:07 <werwolf> yes
18:09:27 <igorko> what about gold/silver stars?
18:09:27 <werwolf> ah in chat
18:09:38 <werwolf> ops
18:09:43 <werwolf> semi ops
18:09:48 <werwolf> ?
18:09:49 <igorko> gold is channel operator right?
18:12:31 <igorko> clokep_meeting: i have created channel and i have gold star
18:12:57 <igorko> who needs those icons without description?
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18:16:14 <clokep_meeting> igorko: They're pretty standard icons, and yes they should have a tooltip, file a bug if there isn't one.
18:16:24 <clokep_meeting> Gold star is op, silver star is half-op, flag is creator.
18:16:55 <clokep_meeting> Not all servers give you the proper IRC mode for the UI to know you were the founder. (It's +n or something)
18:19:34 <igorko> they are used in yabber conferences too, right?
18:19:38 <igorko> jabber*
18:19:40 <clokep_meeting> Yes.
18:19:54 <werwolf> in chatzilla I have one green dot
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18:19:58 <werwolf> a few blue ones
18:19:59 <igorko> i'll bug a bugzilla :)
18:20:04 <werwolf> and the rest is green
18:20:11 <clokep_meeting> Yes...
18:20:19 <clokep_meeting> So? :P
18:20:24 <werwolf> what is wrong with bugzilla?
18:20:45 <igorko> lol
18:20:51 <werwolf> what about file transfer in instantbird?
18:21:17 <clokep_meeting> werwolf: Bug 9.
18:21:20 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9 enh, P5, ---, nobody, NEW, Support of file transfers
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18:36:29 <instantbot> New Instantbird (UI) bug 960 filed by mansonigor@gmail.com.
18:36:31 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=960 nor, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, Add tooltip showing nickname rank in conferences
18:38:29 <igorko> we are near a thousand reports ;)
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18:42:41 <clokep_meeting> igorko: Is that a dup of bug 721 actually?
18:42:44 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=721 enh, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Participants need tooltips
18:43:14 <igorko> oh crap- i was searching for IRC rank and mode :(
18:43:58 <clokep_meeting> It's not exactly the same.
18:44:16 <clokep_meeting> But most liekly you should just add something to that bug that says we should make sure to enclude a description for the rank.
18:44:22 <igorko> right- but my bug can be included in 721
18:44:55 <igorko> and close my bug?
18:46:11 <clokep_meeting> Either way works.
18:46:35 <igorko> nope- i will leave it open and add link in 721
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19:00:47 <clokep_meeting> I changed the description a bit. :) But mostly the same.
19:00:52 <clokep_meeting> Wow there's 38 people in here...
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20:58:02 <flo> Good night :)
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