#instantbird log on 08 01 2011

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02:39:08 * clokep doesn't understand why everyone wants separate groups for protocols. :(
02:39:39 <EionRobb> why not?
02:40:01 <EionRobb> multi-protocol im doesn't automatically mean grouping buddies into contacts :)
02:41:31 <clokep> Right, but if you have a group called "Friends" on YIM and MSN, why would you not want those groups combined?
02:42:03 <clokep> If they're not really the same group, one of them should be named differently.
02:49:30 <clokep> Goodnight.
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10:26:59 <clokep> Ah this will be helpful: chrome in bootstrapped extensions landed! https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=564667
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12:21:23 <clokep_work> Hello flo! Hope your trip was good. :)
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14:23:38 <Mic> Hi
14:23:44 <Mic> Yes, I saw it :)
14:24:21 <Mic> You still need to load the manifest yourself, but at least it is possible now
14:24:58 <Mic> (it doesn't get loaded automatically when you load the extension but there's a follow-up bug filed for this)
14:25:28 <Mic> Welcome back, flo
14:26:13 <Mic> The most exciting thing happening here was most likely Instantbot misbehaving a few times, so you didn't exactly miss a lot :P
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16:03:57 <instantbot> New Instantbird (UI) bug 954 filed by benediktp@ymail.com.
16:03:58 <instantbot> benediktp@ymail.com added attachment 763 to bug 954.
16:03:59 <instantbot> benediktp@ymail.com added attachment 763 to bug 954.
16:04:00 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=954 enh, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Acknowledge new messages when using (Windows 7) Aero Peek to view a conversation window
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16:12:16 <clokep_work> Cool idea Mic.
16:12:46 <Mic> :)
16:16:51 <clokep_work> When I saw an attachment was added I hoped it had a patch. ;)
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16:18:24 <Mic> Oh, did you like the idea that much? :)
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17:21:08 <clokep_work> I liked it enough. ;)
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18:06:36 <flo> hello everybody :)
18:06:45 <clokep_work> Hello flo.
18:07:24 * flo hasn't read anything from the back log, nor his email inbox yet
18:08:44 <clokep_work> Psh what have you been doing?!
18:09:07 <flo> clokep_work: the trip was fantastic, yes :)
18:09:36 <clokep_work> Good!
18:11:03 <flo> I got home yesterday evening, quite late. And today I drove the AMI again, to bring Steeven back home, and have his father check that everything was alright with the car, fix a few things and do an oil change
18:15:54 <clokep_work> I don't think you missed too much besides a lot of people asking about sorting by protocol, me messing up a patch and a few rounds of review for mmkmou. ;)
18:16:57 <flo> any reason why they want to sort by protocol?
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18:17:41 <clokep_work> I asked once (I think) and Mic just asked today, but no one responded yet.
18:18:02 <flo> ok
18:18:29 <flo> hmm, someone requesting sametime support in french on the contact mailing list
18:18:52 <clokep_work> Yup, I just translated that this morning.
18:18:58 <clokep_work> I think that's three or four people requesting it.
18:19:11 <clokep_work> (And two requested Bonjour I think? One on the mailing list and one on IRC?)
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18:31:25 <flo> clokep_work: about Bonjour. I think it depends on a (C) Apple Inc. library. So it's easy to make it "just" work on mac. On Windows it required shipping a closed source library inside our package, and on linux I think it depends on a system package to work (libavahi or something similar).
18:31:43 <flo> Not really sure though
18:31:49 <clokep_work> That sounds right.
18:31:52 <clokep_work> This person was on Mac. ;)
18:32:15 <flo> it was dropped when we started using a build system (= for 0.1.2, same time as for sametime). Nobody seemed to be using that protocol at the time
18:32:54 <flo> dinner time
18:35:15 <clokep_work> Right, makes sense.
18:35:44 <clokep_work> If it "just works" for Mac, might be worth at least having it on that...
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19:49:50 <Mic> The answer from the one who wrote to the mailing list recently (who I asked for the reason today) was: "It is just convenient"
19:50:23 <Mic> Great :(
19:51:30 <clokep_work> That means that they don't know what they want and are just saying it. ;)
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20:14:12 <flo> it probably means they used to have a client with that feature
20:14:43 <flo> with a correct dynamic tags support, it should be trivial to write an add-on for that unfortunately common request
20:22:47 <flo> Has Mic seen bug 952?
20:22:50 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=952 enh, --, ---, mook.moz+bugs.instantbird, ASSI, Account list has useless 5px padding above first item
20:26:26 <clokep_work> Mic looked at the code originally and gave it an OK.
20:26:29 <clokep_work> It's in the log somewhere.
20:28:18 <flo> I'll read the log later
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20:31:50 <clokep_work> Yup. :) I figured.
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21:17:53 <instantbot> New Instantbird (UI) bug 955 filed by benediktp@ymail.com.
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21:17:54 <instantbot> benediktp@ymail.com added attachment 764 to bug 955.
21:17:55 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=955 enh, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Update look of empty account manager
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