#instantbird log on 07 02 2011

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01:38:31 <instantbot> Just appeared in Blog@instantbird.org - http://blog.instantbird.org/ :
01:38:32 <instantbot> http://blog.instantbird.org/n49-instantbird-1-0-release-3-days-later.html - Instantbird 1.0 release, 3 days later
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02:17:03 <flo> http://www.examiner.com/gadgets-in-san-francisco/mozzila-s-instantbird-receive-instant-messages-from-all-sources-one-window this article didn't go half way in saying we are Mozila :-S
02:17:27 <flo> Good night
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06:35:12 <Mic> Good morning
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07:04:51 <Mic> Even, flo: I'm getting an internal server error when opening the "Developer Tools" (https://addons.instantbird.org/en-US/developers) on AIO.
07:05:40 <Mic> There's no visible output but Firebug tells me that the response was "500 Internal Server Error".
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07:53:20 <flo> Mic: that doesn't sound good
08:36:28 <sander85> flo: ping, here if you need any more info
08:37:31 <flo> sander85: thanks. It seems I have everything needed :)
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08:38:34 <flo> sander85: importing the libpurple 2.7.11 strings now may be a waste of time though, as we are soon going to move to libpurple 2.9.*
08:39:29 <flo> would you prefer me to import the 2.7.11 strings now anyway, or to wait and import the 2.9 strings once I have it (most likely next week)?
08:39:30 <sander85> flo: which tree are you using for mozilla/toolkit?
08:39:38 <flo> currently mozilla-2.0
08:39:46 <flo> very soon a more recent one :)
08:40:21 <sander85> i hope the more recent one will be aurora or something, as this is the one i'm using for other projects :P
08:40:54 <sander85> if you have spare time you may import 2.7.11, i don't know how much work it will be :)
08:41:44 <flo> sander85: you can also take it from http://queze.net/goinfre/l10n/libpurple-2.7.11/et/ if you want to play with it
08:42:10 <flo> in fact as the repository isn't empty, it may be better for me to not import anything and just give you the converted files
08:43:02 <sander85> flo: the current state is pretty much a mess ... i'm quite sure i have to replace most of it :)
08:43:58 <sander85> i trust more the guy who is translating pidgin than the one who was translating instantbird :/
08:46:44 <flo> does that mean you would prefer starting with an empty repository?
08:47:52 <flo> sander85: by the way, is there a way for you to use compare-locales only on our en-US directory so that you don't even have to wonder about whether toolkit will be compared or not?
08:49:16 <sander85> flo: i'm not so sure, it needs some ini file AFAIK
08:49:31 <flo> isn't it possible to write a trivial one?
08:49:40 <sander85> well, i can try
08:49:46 <flo> I think using the en-US repository as a base would make your life easier
08:57:27 <sander85> flo: i think empty repo would be good indeed
08:57:41 <flo> ok, I'll do that then :)
09:00:26 <sander85> flo: if i comment out toolkit from l10n.ini i get this: http://pastebin.com/KeKycC9P which seems to be almost ok, but i'm not sure if it has everything needed
09:01:02 <flo> looks ok for the application
09:01:07 <flo> do you want to translate the website too?
09:01:29 <sander85> not now, i'm not sure i have that mush time :)
09:03:44 <sander85> flo: https://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/annotate/089e3aea6349/instantbird/locales/l10n.ini is this toolkit needed there? for something else than compare-locales?
09:04:28 <flo> it's needed because this file is used while building localized instantbird versions, which of course include toolkit
09:04:37 <flo> but you don't need it to see what you need to change
09:06:42 <sander85> ok
09:10:45 <flo> Mic: fixed! thanks for reporting it :)
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09:28:14 <Mic> flo: thanks
09:28:28 <flo> you are welcome :)
09:29:01 <Mic> Unfortunately I'm on the wrong pc now to actually do what I wanted to do;)
09:29:33 <flo> a new cool add-on to upload? ;)
09:30:07 <flo> I think I'll do anothre attempt at making the addpon TheJJJ wanted.
09:30:21 <flo> it's not very useful, but I got frustrated yesterday that my first idea didn't work at all :-]
09:30:40 <Mic> I have to admit I forgot removing a debug output of Buddy Status and need to upload a fixed one :S
09:30:57 <flo> uh, so I shoul dactually avec reviewed it
09:30:58 <flo> ?
09:31:25 <Mic> I shouldn't have uploaded crap in first place, that's the problem here
09:31:57 <Mic> (crap not in the sense that the functionality is broken)
09:32:56 <Mic> That's the changed keys for sending messages iirc?
09:35:40 <flo> yes
09:36:01 <flo> it's frustrating that I couldn't get something so simple done in a few minutes :-D
09:36:11 <Mic> Would you like to make it extensible in general or only override the function from an add-on?
09:36:28 <flo> yesterday I attempted to override the function from the add-on
09:36:46 <flo> but actually the function is not onverridable any more as there's a .bind() there that I added
09:37:28 <flo> so my new (cleaner ?) idea is to intercept the event and if the return key is pressed, cancel it and propagate a new event with ctrlKey = !ctrlKey
09:37:38 <Mic> I wonder if we could have an array with objects that define the key pattern and callbacks if there's a match for them?
09:37:38 <flo> that's way cleaner and future proof IMHO anyway :)
09:38:11 <Mic> The order in the array could define the precedence?
09:38:50 <Mic> ok, only crazy brainstorming here
09:39:24 <flo> sure we could. But what's the point?
09:39:36 <flo> do we need to have half a dozen add-ons messing with the same method at once?
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10:11:19 <[C88][REC]k3tak3ta> hello
10:11:57 <[C88][REC]k3tak3ta> is there a forum/community?
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10:21:20 <Mic> Hello k3ta 
10:21:36 <Mic> No, there's no forum
10:21:39 <k3ta> hi =)
10:21:40 <k3ta> aw
10:22:33 <k3ta> i'd like to say congrats to dev team because for a long time i've been waiting for an open source competitor of Digsby
10:22:48 <k3ta> my hope is that in the future it will be better than it :P
10:23:34 <Mic> We don't have ads, I think that's a good start ;)
10:23:48 <k3ta> yeah, that's a great start xD
10:24:18 <k3ta> and no useless modules such as grid computing
10:24:24 <k3ta> or toolbars
10:28:03 <Mic> I'll be away for a while now, have fun with Instantbird!
10:28:35 <k3ta> ty ;)
10:28:39 <k3ta> nice to meet you ofc
10:31:57 <flo> k3ta: hello :)
10:32:13 <k3ta> hi flo :)
10:32:14 <flo> what would it take for Instantbird to be "better than Digsby"? :)
10:32:33 <k3ta> for example
10:32:39 <k3ta> a better logging system
10:32:53 <k3ta> separate avatars for each account
10:33:07 <k3ta> also separate status messages for each account
10:33:53 <flo> the better loggins system is a good point. What we have currently looks very much like a draft :)
10:34:17 <k3ta> =)
10:34:21 <flo> for separate avatars/status message for different add-ons, it's something I would like to see as an add-on
10:34:33 <k3ta> ah ok
10:34:41 <k3ta> then, about text formatting
10:34:46 <k3ta> i don't know if this is true or not
10:34:54 <k3ta> but in MSN
10:34:58 <k3ta> using windows live messenger
10:35:17 <k3ta> the font is selected by the user and isn't "universal"
10:35:32 <k3ta> but works only for the messages the user sends
10:35:43 <k3ta> instead the messages received, are formatted by the other users' font
10:35:50 <k3ta> i don't know if i explained well :D
10:35:56 <flo> no. I didn't get it.
10:36:08 <k3ta> for example
10:36:17 <k3ta> using windows live messenger
10:36:27 <k3ta> me and a guy are chatting
10:36:45 <k3ta> if on my WLM settings, i choose Arial, Blue, 9
10:36:59 <k3ta> in the chat window, i'll see only my messages as Arial, blue, 9
10:37:23 <k3ta> and the guy's messages will be formatted by the font he set in his own settings
10:37:49 <k3ta> (for example verdana, black, 10)
10:38:17 <k3ta> this works with WLM, but don't know if it does also with other chat protocols
10:38:25 <k3ta> (digsby doesn't support it)
10:39:04 <k3ta> oh, another thing that'd be a nice feature, the sounds
10:39:27 <flo> k3ta: isn't that the default behavior?
10:39:35 <k3ta> to be able to decide when to play a sound (message receiving/message sending/...)
10:40:04 <k3ta> i'm not quite sure but i think it's not
10:40:09 <k3ta> i'll try it now
10:44:51 <k3ta> seems like it doesn't work
10:46:34 <k3ta> my chat partner tried Wingdings and Segoe UI
10:46:38 <k3ta> none of them worked
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10:46:47 <k3ta> i see the same font i use
10:47:07 <flo> have you touched the options in the "Content" tab of the preferences window?
10:47:50 <k3ta> yes
10:48:44 <flo> what do you have for the very first preference there?
10:48:45 <k3ta> in the "view formatting of the received messages"
10:49:03 <k3ta> it's selected "All (font, colors, ..)"
10:49:37 <flo> so the font you don't see if your contact's font?
10:49:56 <k3ta> exactly
10:50:49 <k3ta> oh
10:51:03 <k3ta> there's no file receiving support :o
10:52:48 <flo> this is a good way to avoid receiving files you don't actually want but feel you have to accept because you are afraid of hurting your contact if you refuse ;)
10:54:26 <k3ta> :D
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11:02:15 <k3ta> another thing is about offline messages
11:08:14 <flo> k3ta: if you expect us to guess what you mean, you are likely to be disappointed
11:08:39 <k3ta> i can't see my offline contacts, so how can i send them an offline message?
11:10:51 <k3ta> and there doesn't seem to be a way to show offline contacts
11:13:46 <flo> check "show offline contacts" in the buddy list context menu
11:17:27 <k3ta> oh, found it
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12:04:21 <TimTaylor> Hi there =)
12:05:00 <TimTaylor> anybody get a little time to help me with instantbird ?
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12:09:36 <Mic> Hi TimTaylor
12:09:44 <TimTaylor> hi =)
12:10:04 <Mic> Unfortunately I have no time at the moment but I'll be back in about twenty minutes 
12:10:11 <TimTaylor> okey ^^
12:10:14 <TimTaylor> im waiting :)
12:10:25 <Mic> Just ask, maybe someone else will answer in the meantime
12:10:27 <Mic> bbl
12:10:48 <TimTaylor> bb^^
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12:26:38 <k3ta> TimTaylor, ask what you need
12:26:46 <TimTaylor> hesy =)
12:26:47 <k3ta> if somebody can, an answer will be given
12:27:30 <TimTaylor> i want to connect to the facebook chat, but it dont work cause an error "authorisation failed"
12:28:19 <sander85> TimTaylor: are you using correct username and password?
12:28:48 <TimTaylor> i use that username from facebook not the email...that was the first error but solved with faq
12:29:56 <TimTaylor> at ressource is instanbird...this ist standard
12:31:19 <TimTaylor> password is the right one yes :(
12:36:16 <TimTaylor> http://www.facebook.com/smierke <- this is my site...so my username is smierke but he tried to connect, then it shows up "not authorized"
12:36:18 <flo> TimTaylor: did you create your facebook username (not the account) today?
12:36:46 <TimTaylor> username where created yesterday
12:37:23 <TimTaylor> but strange is, trillian don't need that username and connect :-(
12:37:51 <sander85> how can it connect w/o username?
12:38:06 <TimTaylor> it connects with email
12:38:12 <TimTaylor> like the normal login
12:38:50 <sander85> flo: http://ftp.instantbird.org/instantbird/nightly/latest-trunk/ why is latest trunk 0.3pre if there is 1.0 released? :)
12:39:35 <TimTaylor> i bought trillian a year ago but i like instantbird rly ^^ only that facebook thing will not work :'(
12:47:14 <flo> TimTaylor: ok, after creating the username on the facebook website, have you loged out of the website, and then back in?
12:47:28 <sander85> flo: there are no 64-bit builds either?
12:47:46 <flo> sander85: there may be in a few hours
12:47:59 <sander85> flo: for linux? :)
12:48:31 <TimTaylor> ah cool
12:48:38 <TimTaylor> the logout was the problem
12:48:43 <flo> TimTaylor: Trillian uses a different way to connect to facebook, not the XMPP IM gateway. They do something that's very similar to what we do for twitter.
12:49:15 <TimTaylor> your site need a forum : d but big thx 4 help
12:49:20 <flo> TimTaylor: The password is enabled on the facebook side only after you have logged into the website at least once, after creating the username. Yes, that's silly, but not something that can be fixed on our side :(.
12:49:53 <flo> TimTaylor: a forum needs people to administrate it. We don't have these people (yet?).
12:50:00 <TimTaylor> yep ^^ but write that to the faq i think that would help other people too :)
12:50:05 <flo> if you post to a forum and nobody replies, it's frustrating
12:50:07 <Mic> re
12:50:41 <flo> TimTaylor: yes, we need to answer that "authorization failed" message on the FAQ.
12:50:47 <TimTaylor> but users can help users ^^ i first look at forums with my problems
12:51:26 <flo> sander85: yes, if I'm talking about 64 bit builds without specifying for which system, linux is implied. Windows 64 bit builds are mostly pointless as Win64 systems can all run 32 bit buids just fine
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12:51:56 <flo> TimTaylor: sure. And actually we have users here who try to help too ;)
12:52:24 <flo> TimTaylor: anyway, I'm glad it works now! :)
12:52:52 <TimTaylor> thank you :)
12:53:12 <sander85> flo: ok, cool, just wanted to run nightly but then figured ot that w/o 32-bit libs i can't do that and that much 32-bit libs i don't need :)
12:54:29 <flo> sander85: no 64 bit nightlies. The 64 bit builds on a few hours would be only for the 1.0 release
12:56:27 <cartman> flo: due to limited hardware resources?
12:57:02 <flo> cartman: yes. It doesn't really seem worth it
12:57:21 <cartman> true if the resources are already limited
12:58:49 <sander85> flo: but any tips how to compile myself, so i could run it?
12:59:18 <sander85> i have no problem to compile it my self, if there is how-to for it
13:00:29 <flo> sander85: there's nothing specific about 64bits to compile it yourself
13:00:57 <sander85> well, is there some how-to for 32-bit build then?
13:01:00 <flo> you just need to be on a 64bit os
13:01:25 <flo> https://wiki.instantbird.org/Instantbird:Compiling
13:01:30 <sander85> my hg repos should be on 64-bit system
13:01:31 <flo> I'm afraid some details may be a bit outdated
13:01:42 <flo> have you already compiled Firefox or Thunderbird before?
13:03:40 <sander85> not on this system probably, as those packages i'v got from mozilla if needed :)
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13:06:31 <sander85> 0 packages upgraded, 200 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
13:06:31 <sander85> Need to get 75,5 MB/75,9 MB of archives. After unpacking 232 MB will be used.
13:06:33 <sander85> haha
13:06:34 <sander85> ok
13:06:46 <sander85> i need a better system for that job :P
13:07:49 <flo> if you need to clone the mozilla repository, it will take an awfully long time too ;)
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13:08:38 <sander85> i know.. i have cloned them a lot as they have had quite some changes lately
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13:09:22 <TimTaylor> uh yeah irc with instantbird :D
13:10:33 <cartman> flo: you know I can help you with your limited resources, we (openSUSE) have an Open Build Service (OBS) where you can compile stuff for openSUSE/SUSE/Fedora/Redhat/Debian/Ubuntu etc.
13:10:42 <cartman> flo: See http://build.opensuse.org
13:10:48 <cartman> Its open/free for everybody.
13:11:02 <TimTaylor> can i change the order of the buddy groups?
13:11:03 <sander85> cartman: can you compile tarball as well? :P
13:11:15 <cartman> sander85: which I don't think so :)
13:11:24 <cartman> you can compile for windows too if you support mingw
13:12:10 <sander85> i'm trying to create some script now for my chrooted mageia.. maybe i can make that 64-bit build work on mageia as well
13:13:05 <sander85> http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Development/Howto/Chroot#Creating_a_chroot_with_urpmi you gotta love urpmi :)
13:13:27 <cartman> http://blog.jospoortvliet.com/2010/09/welcome-mageia.html hmmm seems like didn't happen yet
13:13:30 <cartman> sad
13:14:56 <sander85> what didn't happen?
13:15:06 <cartman> Mageia support in OBS :)
13:15:16 <cartman> OBS has ~300 builder machines
13:15:17 <cartman> its huge
13:15:21 <cartman> would be good for Mageia
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13:16:33 <sander85> cartman: well, mageia got pretty good build system as well, a lot faster than mandriva had/still has :)
13:16:56 <cartman> sander85: uhm is it open to public?
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13:17:20 <sander85> cartman: open to mageia packagers, so pretty open
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13:17:52 <cartman> well OBS is open to everyone with an email address :)
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13:18:11 <cartman> thats the main point
13:18:18 <flo> I have a set of 1.0 x64 biulds, but given the speed of my internet connection, they are going to take 6 to 7 hours to finish their upload
13:18:40 <cartman> flo: I'll set up an instantbird project in OBS
13:18:48 <cartman> lets see if you find it valuable/interesting ;)
13:18:54 <sander85> i'm at my parents home, so i feel your pain about connection speed :P
13:19:31 * cartman pets work network
13:19:46 <flo> cartman: that sounds interesting
13:20:06 <flo> for Windows builds we need to build with MSVC2005 Pro so I don't think it would work with wine ;)
13:20:06 <cartman> flo: yeah I know, let me do some work to show you a demo :D
13:20:11 <cartman> I know you'll like it
13:20:13 <cartman> for Linux at least
13:20:38 <flo> cartman: can the builds be started automatically / how are the results collected?
13:20:52 <cartman> flo: https://build.opensuse.org/project/monitor?project=home%3Anamtrac%3Asubpixel is a good example
13:20:56 <flo> would that allow use to have a repository for each of the major distributions?
13:21:00 <cartman> its a project inside my home
13:21:21 <cartman> yes it has a separate repo for each distro
13:21:33 <sander85> flo: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/ this is trunk?
13:21:45 <flo> sander85: if you get the "default" revision, yes
13:21:55 <flo> the current tip may be from the 1.0 branch currently
13:22:30 <cartman> flo: https://build.opensuse.org/package/show?package=swig&project=devel%3Atools%3Abuilding
13:22:35 <cartman> check the right side :)
13:22:39 <cartman> also "Repositories" link
13:24:47 <cartman> looks good? :)
13:25:12 <flo> certainly
13:25:29 <flo> is there a way to turn on crash reporting with these builds though?
13:25:40 <cartman> you control the source code
13:26:08 <flo> the server receiving crahs reports needs to have the build symbol to be able to decode the stacks
13:26:23 <flo> *build symbols
13:26:44 <cartman> flo: https://build.opensuse.org/package/repositories?package=swig&project=devel%3Atools%3Abuilding
13:26:49 <cartman> "Debuginfo Flag"
13:26:55 <cartman> the way you want it ;)
13:27:22 <cartman> That produces separate -debug packages
13:27:39 <flo> we need them in the breakpad format
13:27:59 <cartman> then you can just do it in the build recipe
13:28:03 <flo> the debug packages are for people to be able to download them and then run gdb/valgrind, right?
13:28:08 <cartman> yup
13:28:23 <flo> I'm almost sure the debug packages could be converted to valid breakpad symbols though :)
13:28:40 <cartman> there is no built-in support for that though :/
13:30:20 <flo> having a way to turn that on for a whole distribution (and to have the crash reports automatically sent) would be probably help dramatically improve the stability (but would require giant efforts I guess)
13:30:39 <cartman> flo: I was exactly thinking the same thing right now
13:30:51 <cartman> Apple like crash reporting
13:30:53 <cartman> sounds yummy
13:31:02 <flo> microsoft does it too
13:31:11 <cartman> yeah I think they were the first :D
13:31:45 <flo> mozilla/google do it too
13:31:58 <cartman> yeah I know, breakpad is a Google project
13:32:23 <flo> mozilla engineers work on it too
13:32:36 <cartman> makes sense :)
13:34:23 <flo> where's the "get started" link on the OBS page?
13:35:10 <cartman> http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:OSC should help w
13:35:16 <cartman> with the "osc" command line client
13:35:22 <cartman> you just register on the web interface
13:35:25 <cartman> and get a home project
13:36:05 <cartman> Also http://doc.opensuse.org/products/draft/OBS/obs-best-practices_draft/ http://doc.opensuse.org/products/draft/OBS/obs-reference-guide_draft/
13:37:11 <sander85> flo: how do i clone default? with which option?
13:37:39 <flo> I hope it's what happens by default :)
13:37:57 <flo> but if it doesn't, after your hg clone is finished, just hg pull -r default
13:38:02 <flo> errr
13:38:06 <flo> I meant hg up -r default
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13:41:09 <flo> cartman: thanks! Lots of reading material. I may not finish reading that today ;).
13:41:42 <cartman> flo: hmm ok I'll have a look on Monday for packaging 1.0
13:41:51 <flo> :)
13:41:59 <cartman> I could enable Fedora/Redhat etc. too so could get us started
13:42:08 <Tonnes> good day all
13:42:15 <cartman> g'day Tonnes 
13:43:08 <Tonnes> quick question: when files/parts of the website folder are translated, do they appear soon after that, or does it need anything on your end to activate the localized site?
13:43:54 <flo> Tonnes: it used to be immediate but it's no longer the case since we had to move the website to another server (the website used to be on the same server as the hg repository, which made synchronization easy)
13:44:01 <flo> I'm going to work on fixing that today
13:44:33 <Tonnes> flo: I see.. so I cannot even upload them now?
13:44:43 <flo> you can upload them
13:44:47 <flo> just not see the result
13:44:56 <Tonnes> ok, thanks :)
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13:54:29 <sander85> flo: https://wiki.instantbird.org/Instantbird:Compiling what will that checkout in client.py do? i hope it will just pull the code if repo already exists?
13:55:05 <flo> if will clone the mozilla repo, except if one already exists in the mozilla/ sub dir :)
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13:56:29 <sander85> ok, it seems to update instantbird itself too? so i don't have to do that myself
13:58:12 <flo> I think calling make -f client.mk without specifying "build" will also call client.py automatically before building :)
13:58:40 <sander85> ok
13:59:48 <sander85> this gonna take some time now.. 1Mbit/s :/
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14:12:36 <instantbot> New Instantbird (UI) bug 888 filed by bobkous@gmail.com.
14:12:39 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=888 enh, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, tray icon not Windows 7 style
14:20:36 <aleth> Seen this comment/bug report (?) on Lifehacker: "Have you actually got it running QQ though? I've tried Trillian, Pidgeon and Instantbird, they all state on their websites they can connect but it never works. With Pidgeon and Instantbird you get a Capcha error and trillian just doesn't have the right plugins. If you know something I don't I would be chuffed to hear about it! :) "
14:20:45 <aleth> just thought I'd pass it on
14:29:47 <flo> Pidgin has removed the qq plugin recently
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15:37:01 * flo has just pressed <tab> in his twitter tab where there are over 700 nicks listed :(
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16:29:08 <flo> JavaScript Error: "Cr is not defined" {file: "components/twitter.js" line: 65} :(
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16:53:08 <instantbot> New Instantbird (UI) bug 889 filed by georg.palm@web.de.
16:53:10 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=889 enh, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, Improvements
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20:30:51 <igorko> hi
20:30:56 <igorko> Flo are you here?
20:32:25 <igorko> can i use internal Instantbird functions in addon? Or i need link to riginal functions in addon?
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21:10:49 <igorko> http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/8251/infa.jpg
21:11:03 <igorko> how to make sizes normal?
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21:27:44 <Mook> are those images in a grid of some sort, igorko?
21:27:46 <Mook> oh, did he manage to leave while I got disconnected?
21:28:35 <flo> Mook: it seems so ;)
21:29:43 <Mook> I guess he's very good at timing things ;) (or I am, unintentionally)
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21:45:08 <igorko> http://pastie.org/2156003 coludsomeone help me?
21:45:35 <igorko> i want to make GetSmilesList() work
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21:51:19 <igorko> pleease? :(
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22:14:25 <igorko> i gor working external smiles with pasting links :)
22:14:29 <igorko> got*
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22:14:38 <igorko>  [img]http://www.kolobok.us/smiles/standart/acute.gif[/img] 
22:15:29 <igorko> someone should help me with getting internal smiles list and codes...
22:16:07 <flo> igorko: have you looked at the code of the preferences window?
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22:16:25 <igorko> yes but i can't get them o panel
22:16:32 <igorko> i have pasted my code
22:16:43 <igorko> on panel*
22:16:54 <igorko> in preferences they are on richlist
22:17:07 <igorko> http://pastie.org/2156003
22:17:27 <igorko> i need GetSmilesList()
22:18:32 <flo> richlist or panel doesn't change the way to get them...
22:20:13 <igorko> http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/file/089e3aea6349/instantbird/content/preferences/smileys.js
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22:20:24 <igorko> http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/file/089e3aea6349/instantbird/content/preferences/themes.xul
22:20:45 <igorko> onselect="smileysPreview.displayCurrentTheme();"
22:21:01 <igorko> i did it in onpopupshowing
22:21:14 <igorko> and it doesn't work :(
22:22:18 <igorko> i just changed ID in let list = document.getElementById("smiles-panel");
22:22:30 <igorko> maybe i need some more code from smiles.js?
22:23:08 <igorko> (i have replaced smileysPreview with smiles-panel)
22:23:17 <sander85> flo: my build fails with this: http://pastebin.com/F7sX5AVr  it seems that this python command is wrong :/
22:23:42 <igorko> flo maybe i need that code from var smileysPreview = { too?
22:24:01 <igorko>  load: function() {...
22:24:49 <flo> sander85: I think the error is above
22:26:51 <flo> clokep: hey, I thought you were away for the whole week-end!
22:27:11 <clokep> flo: I had a wedding to go to yesterday, home tonight then away tomorrow! :P
22:27:15 <clokep> So...I'm kind of away!
22:27:21 <clokep> Doing some light reading right now. ;)
22:27:27 <flo> Even is at a wedding too
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22:28:47 <clokep> I bet it was a different one. ;)
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22:29:00 <clokep> Apparently it's apopular weekend in the US.
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22:30:43 <instantbot> New purplexpcom - General bug 890 filed by kofabj@gmail.com.
22:30:45 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=890 nor, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, I have a problem to run Instantbird
22:31:57 <flo> wow, nice error
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22:35:20 * flo ponders a comment read on a forum (in French) saying "I can't use Instantbird because I haven't found how to *appear as invisible*"
22:35:54 <flo> the idea of appearing and being invisible at once seems crazy :)
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22:42:41 <clokep> Re: Pidgin removing the QQ protocol...when we update to 2.9.* we should update to the (now) external &amp; updated QQ I think?
22:43:49 <flo> yes :(
22:44:10 <flo> I'm trying to update to mozilla-5.0 for now
22:44:54 <clokep> "Trying" doesn't sound promising. :(
22:46:29 <clokep> flo: Is there a bug about being able to close out rooms and have them pop up when you're pinged? (Re bug 886 that half is a dup of bug 232)
22:46:32 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=886 enh, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, IRC Channels added to buddy list
22:46:33 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=232 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Can't add IRC channels to the buddy list
22:47:56 <flo> clokep: I've already fixed our patches, but there are at least 2 different build system changes that break the build and that I need to port
22:48:14 <clokep> Ah, they need to stop changing the build system!
22:48:14 <flo> + I'm afraid we are dropping PPC support for real this time
22:50:16 <flo> the summary of bug 886 is just very bad, but I think it's not a dup
22:50:19 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=886 enh, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, IRC Channels added to buddy list
22:50:59 <clokep> I'm going to morph it into your "don't show chats unless interesting stuff is going on then" :P
22:51:08 <clokep> Yes, I'd be surprised if PPC works. :-/
22:51:39 <clokep> Except I have no idea how to word that.
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22:54:09 <Tonnes> guys.. are there any plans to improve the web site's font type?
22:56:06 <flo> we added the characters that were missing for the pl, sk, and cs locales recently
22:58:39 <flo> http://queze.net/goinfre/about1.1a1pre.png :)
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23:07:29 <instantbot> New Instantbird (UI) bug 891 filed by gies.nate@gmail.com.
23:07:31 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=891 tri, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, Add-Ons Window Doesn't Close CMD+W
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23:19:10 <instantbot> New Instantbird (UI) bug 892 filed by gies.nate@gmail.com.
23:19:12 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=892 cri, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, Lock-Up When Installing New Add-On
23:19:17 <DGMurdockIII> how come im still on 0.3
23:22:01 <flo> 0.3pre
23:22:09 <flo> have you read our latest blog post?
23:30:20 <flo> douglaswth: I wrote a bootstrapped add-on for the "swap the behavior of enter and ctrl+enter" thing TheJJJ wanted. I based if off your Tab Complete code, then I've simplified the way the conversations are enumerated. Just thought you may want to see the modified source: http://pastebin.instantbird.com/846
23:34:51 <flo> Good night :)
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