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00:08:17 --> Mathnerd314 has joined #instantbird 00:20:11 <-- aleth has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.0) 00:26:10 <-- hunsly has quit (Ping timeout) 00:42:19 --> sonny has joined #instantbird 00:58:54 <-- werwolf has quit (Quit: '< auuuuuuuuuuuuuuu) 01:38:31 <instantbot> Just appeared in Blog@instantbird.org - http://blog.instantbird.org/ : 01:38:32 <instantbot> http://blog.instantbird.org/n49-instantbird-1-0-release-3-days-later.html - Instantbird 1.0 release, 3 days later 01:46:21 <-- GeekShadow has quit (Client exited) 02:02:38 <-- skeledrew has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3pre) 02:08:04 --> skeledrew has joined #instantbird 02:11:48 <-- linuxwizard has left #instantbird () 02:17:03 <flo> http://www.examiner.com/gadgets-in-san-francisco/mozzila-s-instantbird-receive-instant-messages-from-all-sources-one-window this article didn't go half way in saying we are Mozila :-S 02:17:27 <flo> Good night 02:45:23 --> verdant has joined #instantbird 02:48:03 <-- sonny has left #instantbird () 03:01:05 --> kelopez has joined #instantbird 03:01:12 <-- kelopez has left #instantbird () 03:12:59 <-- Mathnerd314 has quit (Ping timeout) 03:13:23 <-- skeledrew has quit (Ping timeout) 03:27:47 --> tymerkaev_away has joined #instantbird 03:29:30 --> Mathnerd314 has joined #instantbird 03:31:43 <-- verdant has left #instantbird () 03:32:33 <-- Mathnerd314 has quit (Ping timeout) 03:33:28 <-- ironhead has quit (Ping timeout) 03:38:42 --> Mathnerd314 has joined #instantbird 04:06:27 <-- tymerkaev_away has quit (Client exited) 04:19:35 --> Mook has joined #instantbird 04:24:48 --> skeledrew has joined #instantbird 04:44:16 --> tymerkaev_away has joined #instantbird 04:46:01 * tymerkaev_away is now known as tymerkaev 05:10:51 --> linuxwizard has joined #instantbird 05:16:43 --> werwolf has joined #instantbird 05:53:53 <-- DGMurdockIII has quit (Quit: get satisfied!  :: core-networks.de ««« (Gamers.IRC) »»» gamersirc.net ::) 06:06:32 <-- Mook has quit (NickServ (GHOST command used by Mook_)) 06:07:05 --> Mook has joined #instantbird 06:21:34 --> waynenguyen has joined #instantbird 06:22:21 --> waynenguyen1 has joined #instantbird 06:23:40 <-- werwolf has quit (Quit: '< auuuuuuuuuuuuuuu) 06:35:06 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 06:35:06 * ChanServ sets mode +h Mic 06:35:12 <Mic> Good morning 06:35:43 <-- tymerkaev has quit (Ping timeout) 06:39:07 --> hunsly has joined #instantbird 06:49:48 <-- Mic has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.0) 06:49:58 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 06:49:58 * ChanServ sets mode +h Mic 06:50:36 <-- Mic has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.0) 06:58:49 --> TheJJJ has joined #instantbird 07:01:03 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 07:01:04 * ChanServ sets mode +h Mic 07:04:51 <Mic> Even, flo: I'm getting an internal server error when opening the "Developer Tools" (https://addons.instantbird.org/en-US/developers) on AIO. 07:05:40 <Mic> There's no visible output but Firebug tells me that the response was "500 Internal Server Error". 07:22:40 <-- Mook has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86-xr [XULRunner 2.0b13pre/20110304030406]) 07:34:23 <-- Mic has left #instantbird () 07:37:47 <-- linuxwizard has left #instantbird () 07:50:14 <-- Mathnerd314 has quit (Ping timeout) 07:53:20 <flo> Mic: that doesn't sound good 08:36:28 <sander85> flo: ping, here if you need any more info 08:37:31 <flo> sander85: thanks. It seems I have everything needed :) 08:37:40 --> Andrey has joined #instantbird 08:38:34 <flo> sander85: importing the libpurple 2.7.11 strings now may be a waste of time though, as we are soon going to move to libpurple 2.9.* 08:39:29 <flo> would you prefer me to import the 2.7.11 strings now anyway, or to wait and import the 2.9 strings once I have it (most likely next week)? 08:39:30 <sander85> flo: which tree are you using for mozilla/toolkit? 08:39:38 <flo> currently mozilla-2.0 08:39:46 <flo> very soon a more recent one :) 08:40:21 <sander85> i hope the more recent one will be aurora or something, as this is the one i'm using for other projects :P 08:40:54 <sander85> if you have spare time you may import 2.7.11, i don't know how much work it will be :) 08:41:44 <flo> sander85: you can also take it from http://queze.net/goinfre/l10n/libpurple-2.7.11/et/ if you want to play with it 08:42:10 <flo> in fact as the repository isn't empty, it may be better for me to not import anything and just give you the converted files 08:43:02 <sander85> flo: the current state is pretty much a mess ... i'm quite sure i have to replace most of it :) 08:43:58 <sander85> i trust more the guy who is translating pidgin than the one who was translating instantbird :/ 08:46:44 <flo> does that mean you would prefer starting with an empty repository? 08:47:52 <flo> sander85: by the way, is there a way for you to use compare-locales only on our en-US directory so that you don't even have to wonder about whether toolkit will be compared or not? 08:49:16 <sander85> flo: i'm not so sure, it needs some ini file AFAIK 08:49:31 <flo> isn't it possible to write a trivial one? 08:49:40 <sander85> well, i can try 08:49:46 <flo> I think using the en-US repository as a base would make your life easier 08:57:27 <sander85> flo: i think empty repo would be good indeed 08:57:41 <flo> ok, I'll do that then :) 09:00:26 <sander85> flo: if i comment out toolkit from l10n.ini i get this: http://pastebin.com/KeKycC9P which seems to be almost ok, but i'm not sure if it has everything needed 09:01:02 <flo> looks ok for the application 09:01:07 <flo> do you want to translate the website too? 09:01:29 <sander85> not now, i'm not sure i have that mush time :) 09:03:44 <sander85> flo: https://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/annotate/089e3aea6349/instantbird/locales/l10n.ini is this toolkit needed there? for something else than compare-locales? 09:04:28 <flo> it's needed because this file is used while building localized instantbird versions, which of course include toolkit 09:04:37 <flo> but you don't need it to see what you need to change 09:06:42 <sander85> ok 09:10:45 <flo> Mic: fixed! thanks for reporting it :) 09:14:01 <-- TheJJJ has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.0) 09:22:25 --> mmkmou has joined #instantbird 09:22:28 <-- mmkmou has quit (Client exited) 09:22:44 --> mmkmou has joined #instantbird 09:27:53 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 09:27:53 * ChanServ sets mode +h Mic 09:28:14 <Mic> flo: thanks 09:28:28 <flo> you are welcome :) 09:29:01 <Mic> Unfortunately I'm on the wrong pc now to actually do what I wanted to do;) 09:29:33 <flo> a new cool add-on to upload? ;) 09:30:07 <flo> I think I'll do anothre attempt at making the addpon TheJJJ wanted. 09:30:21 <flo> it's not very useful, but I got frustrated yesterday that my first idea didn't work at all :-] 09:30:40 <Mic> I have to admit I forgot removing a debug output of Buddy Status and need to upload a fixed one :S 09:30:57 <flo> uh, so I shoul dactually avec reviewed it 09:30:58 <flo> ? 09:31:25 <Mic> I shouldn't have uploaded crap in first place, that's the problem here 09:31:57 <Mic> (crap not in the sense that the functionality is broken) 09:32:56 <Mic> That's the changed keys for sending messages iirc? 09:35:40 <flo> yes 09:36:01 <flo> it's frustrating that I couldn't get something so simple done in a few minutes :-D 09:36:11 <Mic> Would you like to make it extensible in general or only override the function from an add-on? 09:36:28 <flo> yesterday I attempted to override the function from the add-on 09:36:46 <flo> but actually the function is not onverridable any more as there's a .bind() there that I added 09:37:28 <flo> so my new (cleaner ?) idea is to intercept the event and if the return key is pressed, cancel it and propagate a new event with ctrlKey = !ctrlKey 09:37:38 <Mic> I wonder if we could have an array with objects that define the key pattern and callbacks if there's a match for them? 09:37:38 <flo> that's way cleaner and future proof IMHO anyway :) 09:38:11 <Mic> The order in the array could define the precedence? 09:38:50 <Mic> ok, only crazy brainstorming here 09:39:24 <flo> sure we could. But what's the point? 09:39:36 <flo> do we need to have half a dozen add-ons messing with the same method at once? 10:11:15 --> [C88][REC]k3tak3ta has joined #instantbird 10:11:19 <[C88][REC]k3tak3ta> hello 10:11:57 <[C88][REC]k3tak3ta> is there a forum/community? 10:14:06 <-- waynenguyen1 has quit (Ping timeout) 10:17:28 * [C88][REC]k3tak3ta is now known as k3ta 10:20:08 <-- waynenguyen has quit (Ping timeout) 10:21:20 <Mic> Hello k3ta 10:21:36 <Mic> No, there's no forum 10:21:39 <k3ta> hi =) 10:21:40 <k3ta> aw 10:22:33 <k3ta> i'd like to say congrats to dev team because for a long time i've been waiting for an open source competitor of Digsby 10:22:48 <k3ta> my hope is that in the future it will be better than it :P 10:23:34 <Mic> We don't have ads, I think that's a good start ;) 10:23:48 <k3ta> yeah, that's a great start xD 10:24:18 <k3ta> and no useless modules such as grid computing 10:24:24 <k3ta> or toolbars 10:28:03 <Mic> I'll be away for a while now, have fun with Instantbird! 10:28:35 <k3ta> ty ;) 10:28:39 <k3ta> nice to meet you ofc 10:31:57 <flo> k3ta: hello :) 10:32:13 <k3ta> hi flo :) 10:32:14 <flo> what would it take for Instantbird to be "better than Digsby"? :) 10:32:33 <k3ta> for example 10:32:39 <k3ta> a better logging system 10:32:53 <k3ta> separate avatars for each account 10:33:07 <k3ta> also separate status messages for each account 10:33:53 <flo> the better loggins system is a good point. What we have currently looks very much like a draft :) 10:34:17 <k3ta> =) 10:34:21 <flo> for separate avatars/status message for different add-ons, it's something I would like to see as an add-on 10:34:33 <k3ta> ah ok 10:34:41 <k3ta> then, about text formatting 10:34:46 <k3ta> i don't know if this is true or not 10:34:54 <k3ta> but in MSN 10:34:58 <k3ta> using windows live messenger 10:35:17 <k3ta> the font is selected by the user and isn't "universal" 10:35:32 <k3ta> but works only for the messages the user sends 10:35:43 <k3ta> instead the messages received, are formatted by the other users' font 10:35:50 <k3ta> i don't know if i explained well :D 10:35:56 <flo> no. I didn't get it. 10:36:08 <k3ta> for example 10:36:17 <k3ta> using windows live messenger 10:36:27 <k3ta> me and a guy are chatting 10:36:45 <k3ta> if on my WLM settings, i choose Arial, Blue, 9 10:36:59 <k3ta> in the chat window, i'll see only my messages as Arial, blue, 9 10:37:23 <k3ta> and the guy's messages will be formatted by the font he set in his own settings 10:37:49 <k3ta> (for example verdana, black, 10) 10:38:17 <k3ta> this works with WLM, but don't know if it does also with other chat protocols 10:38:25 <k3ta> (digsby doesn't support it) 10:39:04 <k3ta> oh, another thing that'd be a nice feature, the sounds 10:39:27 <flo> k3ta: isn't that the default behavior? 10:39:35 <k3ta> to be able to decide when to play a sound (message receiving/message sending/...) 10:40:04 <k3ta> i'm not quite sure but i think it's not 10:40:09 <k3ta> i'll try it now 10:44:51 <k3ta> seems like it doesn't work 10:46:34 <k3ta> my chat partner tried Wingdings and Segoe UI 10:46:38 <k3ta> none of them worked 10:46:39 --> waynenguyen has joined #instantbird 10:46:47 <k3ta> i see the same font i use 10:47:07 <flo> have you touched the options in the "Content" tab of the preferences window? 10:47:50 <k3ta> yes 10:48:44 <flo> what do you have for the very first preference there? 10:48:45 <k3ta> in the "view formatting of the received messages" 10:49:03 <k3ta> it's selected "All (font, colors, ..)" 10:49:37 <flo> so the font you don't see if your contact's font? 10:49:56 <k3ta> exactly 10:50:49 <k3ta> oh 10:51:03 <k3ta> there's no file receiving support :o 10:52:48 <flo> this is a good way to avoid receiving files you don't actually want but feel you have to accept because you are afraid of hurting your contact if you refuse ;) 10:54:26 <k3ta> :D 10:57:30 <-- waynenguyen has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3pre) 10:57:57 --> waynenguyen has joined #instantbird 11:02:15 <k3ta> another thing is about offline messages 11:08:14 <flo> k3ta: if you expect us to guess what you mean, you are likely to be disappointed 11:08:39 <k3ta> i can't see my offline contacts, so how can i send them an offline message? 11:10:51 <k3ta> and there doesn't seem to be a way to show offline contacts 11:13:46 <flo> check "show offline contacts" in the buddy list context menu 11:17:27 <k3ta> oh, found it 11:20:24 <-- waynenguyen has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3pre) 11:36:23 --> sonny has joined #instantbird 11:47:10 --> GeekShadow has joined #instantbird 11:48:41 --> ironhead has joined #instantbird 12:04:11 --> TimTaylor has joined #instantbird 12:04:21 <TimTaylor> Hi there =) 12:05:00 <TimTaylor> anybody get a little time to help me with instantbird ? 12:08:40 <-- mmkmou has quit (Ping timeout) 12:09:36 <Mic> Hi TimTaylor 12:09:44 <TimTaylor> hi =) 12:10:04 <Mic> Unfortunately I have no time at the moment but I'll be back in about twenty minutes 12:10:11 <TimTaylor> okey ^^ 12:10:14 <TimTaylor> im waiting :) 12:10:25 <Mic> Just ask, maybe someone else will answer in the meantime 12:10:27 <Mic> bbl 12:10:48 <TimTaylor> bb^^ 12:20:30 <-- sonny has left #instantbird () 12:23:50 --> mmkmou has joined #instantbird 12:26:38 <k3ta> TimTaylor, ask what you need 12:26:46 <TimTaylor> hesy =) 12:26:47 <k3ta> if somebody can, an answer will be given 12:27:30 <TimTaylor> i want to connect to the facebook chat, but it dont work cause an error "authorisation failed" 12:28:19 <sander85> TimTaylor: are you using correct username and password? 12:28:48 <TimTaylor> i use that username from facebook not the email...that was the first error but solved with faq 12:29:56 <TimTaylor> at ressource is instanbird...this ist standard 12:31:19 <TimTaylor> password is the right one yes :( 12:36:16 <TimTaylor> http://www.facebook.com/smierke <- this is my site...so my username is smierke but he tried to connect, then it shows up "not authorized" 12:36:18 <flo> TimTaylor: did you create your facebook username (not the account) today? 12:36:46 <TimTaylor> username where created yesterday 12:37:23 <TimTaylor> but strange is, trillian don't need that username and connect :-( 12:37:51 <sander85> how can it connect w/o username? 12:38:06 <TimTaylor> it connects with email 12:38:12 <TimTaylor> like the normal login 12:38:50 <sander85> flo: http://ftp.instantbird.org/instantbird/nightly/latest-trunk/ why is latest trunk 0.3pre if there is 1.0 released? :) 12:39:35 <TimTaylor> i bought trillian a year ago but i like instantbird rly ^^ only that facebook thing will not work :'( 12:47:14 <flo> TimTaylor: ok, after creating the username on the facebook website, have you loged out of the website, and then back in? 12:47:28 <sander85> flo: there are no 64-bit builds either? 12:47:46 <flo> sander85: there may be in a few hours 12:47:59 <sander85> flo: for linux? :) 12:48:31 <TimTaylor> ah cool 12:48:38 <TimTaylor> the logout was the problem 12:48:43 <flo> TimTaylor: Trillian uses a different way to connect to facebook, not the XMPP IM gateway. They do something that's very similar to what we do for twitter. 12:49:15 <TimTaylor> your site need a forum : d but big thx 4 help 12:49:20 <flo> TimTaylor: The password is enabled on the facebook side only after you have logged into the website at least once, after creating the username. Yes, that's silly, but not something that can be fixed on our side :(. 12:49:53 <flo> TimTaylor: a forum needs people to administrate it. We don't have these people (yet?). 12:50:00 <TimTaylor> yep ^^ but write that to the faq i think that would help other people too :) 12:50:05 <flo> if you post to a forum and nobody replies, it's frustrating 12:50:07 <Mic> re 12:50:41 <flo> TimTaylor: yes, we need to answer that "authorization failed" message on the FAQ. 12:50:47 <TimTaylor> but users can help users ^^ i first look at forums with my problems 12:51:26 <flo> sander85: yes, if I'm talking about 64 bit builds without specifying for which system, linux is implied. Windows 64 bit builds are mostly pointless as Win64 systems can all run 32 bit buids just fine 12:51:38 --> waynenguyen has joined #instantbird 12:51:56 <flo> TimTaylor: sure. And actually we have users here who try to help too ;) 12:52:24 <flo> TimTaylor: anyway, I'm glad it works now! :) 12:52:52 <TimTaylor> thank you :) 12:53:12 <sander85> flo: ok, cool, just wanted to run nightly but then figured ot that w/o 32-bit libs i can't do that and that much 32-bit libs i don't need :) 12:54:29 <flo> sander85: no 64 bit nightlies. The 64 bit builds on a few hours would be only for the 1.0 release 12:56:27 <cartman> flo: due to limited hardware resources? 12:57:02 <flo> cartman: yes. It doesn't really seem worth it 12:57:21 <cartman> true if the resources are already limited 12:58:49 <sander85> flo: but any tips how to compile myself, so i could run it? 12:59:18 <sander85> i have no problem to compile it my self, if there is how-to for it 13:00:29 <flo> sander85: there's nothing specific about 64bits to compile it yourself 13:00:57 <sander85> well, is there some how-to for 32-bit build then? 13:01:00 <flo> you just need to be on a 64bit os 13:01:25 <flo> https://wiki.instantbird.org/Instantbird:Compiling 13:01:30 <sander85> my hg repos should be on 64-bit system 13:01:31 <flo> I'm afraid some details may be a bit outdated 13:01:42 <flo> have you already compiled Firefox or Thunderbird before? 13:03:40 <sander85> not on this system probably, as those packages i'v got from mozilla if needed :) 13:03:51 <-- rikki has quit (Connection reset by peer) 13:06:31 <sander85> 0 packages upgraded, 200 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. 13:06:31 <sander85> Need to get 75,5 MB/75,9 MB of archives. After unpacking 232 MB will be used. 13:06:33 <sander85> haha 13:06:34 <sander85> ok 13:06:46 <sander85> i need a better system for that job :P 13:07:49 <flo> if you need to clone the mozilla repository, it will take an awfully long time too ;) 13:08:22 <-- TimTaylor has quit (Quit: ~ Trillian Astra - www.trillian.im ~) 13:08:38 <sander85> i know.. i have cloned them a lot as they have had quite some changes lately 13:09:05 --> TimTaylor has joined #instantbird 13:09:22 <TimTaylor> uh yeah irc with instantbird :D 13:10:33 <cartman> flo: you know I can help you with your limited resources, we (openSUSE) have an Open Build Service (OBS) where you can compile stuff for openSUSE/SUSE/Fedora/Redhat/Debian/Ubuntu etc. 13:10:42 <cartman> flo: See http://build.opensuse.org 13:10:48 <cartman> Its open/free for everybody. 13:11:02 <TimTaylor> can i change the order of the buddy groups? 13:11:03 <sander85> cartman: can you compile tarball as well? :P 13:11:15 <cartman> sander85: which I don't think so :) 13:11:24 <cartman> you can compile for windows too if you support mingw 13:12:10 <sander85> i'm trying to create some script now for my chrooted mageia.. maybe i can make that 64-bit build work on mageia as well 13:13:05 <sander85> http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Development/Howto/Chroot#Creating_a_chroot_with_urpmi you gotta love urpmi :) 13:13:27 <cartman> http://blog.jospoortvliet.com/2010/09/welcome-mageia.html hmmm seems like didn't happen yet 13:13:30 <cartman> sad 13:14:56 <sander85> what didn't happen? 13:15:06 <cartman> Mageia support in OBS :) 13:15:16 <cartman> OBS has ~300 builder machines 13:15:17 <cartman> its huge 13:15:21 <cartman> would be good for Mageia 13:15:52 <-- Mic has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.0) 13:16:33 <sander85> cartman: well, mageia got pretty good build system as well, a lot faster than mandriva had/still has :) 13:16:56 <cartman> sander85: uhm is it open to public? 13:17:01 <-- TimTaylor has left #instantbird () 13:17:20 <sander85> cartman: open to mageia packagers, so pretty open 13:17:45 --> TimTaylor has joined #instantbird 13:17:52 <cartman> well OBS is open to everyone with an email address :) 13:17:59 <-- TimTaylor has left #instantbird () 13:18:11 <cartman> thats the main point 13:18:18 <flo> I have a set of 1.0 x64 biulds, but given the speed of my internet connection, they are going to take 6 to 7 hours to finish their upload 13:18:40 <cartman> flo: I'll set up an instantbird project in OBS 13:18:48 <cartman> lets see if you find it valuable/interesting ;) 13:18:54 <sander85> i'm at my parents home, so i feel your pain about connection speed :P 13:19:31 * cartman pets work network 13:19:46 <flo> cartman: that sounds interesting 13:20:06 <flo> for Windows builds we need to build with MSVC2005 Pro so I don't think it would work with wine ;) 13:20:06 <cartman> flo: yeah I know, let me do some work to show you a demo :D 13:20:11 <cartman> I know you'll like it 13:20:13 <cartman> for Linux at least 13:20:38 <flo> cartman: can the builds be started automatically / how are the results collected? 13:20:52 <cartman> flo: https://build.opensuse.org/project/monitor?project=home%3Anamtrac%3Asubpixel is a good example 13:20:56 <flo> would that allow use to have a repository for each of the major distributions? 13:21:00 <cartman> its a project inside my home 13:21:21 <cartman> yes it has a separate repo for each distro 13:21:33 <sander85> flo: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/ this is trunk? 13:21:45 <flo> sander85: if you get the "default" revision, yes 13:21:55 <flo> the current tip may be from the 1.0 branch currently 13:22:30 <cartman> flo: https://build.opensuse.org/package/show?package=swig&project=devel%3Atools%3Abuilding 13:22:35 <cartman> check the right side :) 13:22:39 <cartman> also "Repositories" link 13:24:47 <cartman> looks good? :) 13:25:12 <flo> certainly 13:25:29 <flo> is there a way to turn on crash reporting with these builds though? 13:25:40 <cartman> you control the source code 13:26:08 <flo> the server receiving crahs reports needs to have the build symbol to be able to decode the stacks 13:26:23 <flo> *build symbols 13:26:44 <cartman> flo: https://build.opensuse.org/package/repositories?package=swig&project=devel%3Atools%3Abuilding 13:26:49 <cartman> "Debuginfo Flag" 13:26:55 <cartman> the way you want it ;) 13:27:22 <cartman> That produces separate -debug packages 13:27:39 <flo> we need them in the breakpad format 13:27:59 <cartman> then you can just do it in the build recipe 13:28:03 <flo> the debug packages are for people to be able to download them and then run gdb/valgrind, right? 13:28:08 <cartman> yup 13:28:23 <flo> I'm almost sure the debug packages could be converted to valid breakpad symbols though :) 13:28:40 <cartman> there is no built-in support for that though :/ 13:30:20 <flo> having a way to turn that on for a whole distribution (and to have the crash reports automatically sent) would be probably help dramatically improve the stability (but would require giant efforts I guess) 13:30:39 <cartman> flo: I was exactly thinking the same thing right now 13:30:51 <cartman> Apple like crash reporting 13:30:53 <cartman> sounds yummy 13:31:02 <flo> microsoft does it too 13:31:11 <cartman> yeah I think they were the first :D 13:31:45 <flo> mozilla/google do it too 13:31:58 <cartman> yeah I know, breakpad is a Google project 13:32:23 <flo> mozilla engineers work on it too 13:32:36 <cartman> makes sense :) 13:34:23 <flo> where's the "get started" link on the OBS page? 13:35:10 <cartman> http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:OSC should help w 13:35:16 <cartman> with the "osc" command line client 13:35:22 <cartman> you just register on the web interface 13:35:25 <cartman> and get a home project 13:36:05 <cartman> Also http://doc.opensuse.org/products/draft/OBS/obs-best-practices_draft/ http://doc.opensuse.org/products/draft/OBS/obs-reference-guide_draft/ 13:37:11 <sander85> flo: how do i clone default? with which option? 13:37:39 <flo> I hope it's what happens by default :) 13:37:57 <flo> but if it doesn't, after your hg clone is finished, just hg pull -r default 13:38:02 <flo> errr 13:38:06 <flo> I meant hg up -r default 13:40:50 --> Tonnes has joined #instantbird 13:41:09 <flo> cartman: thanks! Lots of reading material. I may not finish reading that today ;). 13:41:42 <cartman> flo: hmm ok I'll have a look on Monday for packaging 1.0 13:41:51 <flo> :) 13:41:59 <cartman> I could enable Fedora/Redhat etc. too so could get us started 13:42:08 <Tonnes> good day all 13:42:15 <cartman> g'day Tonnes 13:43:08 <Tonnes> quick question: when files/parts of the website folder are translated, do they appear soon after that, or does it need anything on your end to activate the localized site? 13:43:54 <flo> Tonnes: it used to be immediate but it's no longer the case since we had to move the website to another server (the website used to be on the same server as the hg repository, which made synchronization easy) 13:44:01 <flo> I'm going to work on fixing that today 13:44:33 <Tonnes> flo: I see.. so I cannot even upload them now? 13:44:43 <flo> you can upload them 13:44:47 <flo> just not see the result 13:44:56 <Tonnes> ok, thanks :) 13:48:16 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 13:54:29 <sander85> flo: https://wiki.instantbird.org/Instantbird:Compiling what will that checkout in client.py do? i hope it will just pull the code if repo already exists? 13:55:05 <flo> if will clone the mozilla repo, except if one already exists in the mozilla/ sub dir :) 13:55:55 <-- mmkmou has quit (Ping timeout) 13:56:29 <sander85> ok, it seems to update instantbird itself too? so i don't have to do that myself 13:58:12 <flo> I think calling make -f client.mk without specifying "build" will also call client.py automatically before building :) 13:58:40 <sander85> ok 13:59:48 <sander85> this gonna take some time now.. 1Mbit/s :/ 14:11:46 --> mmkmou has joined #instantbird 14:12:36 <instantbot> New Instantbird (UI) bug 888 filed by bobkous@gmail.com. 14:12:39 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=888 enh, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, tray icon not Windows 7 style 14:20:36 <aleth> Seen this comment/bug report (?) on Lifehacker: "Have you actually got it running QQ though? I've tried Trillian, Pidgeon and Instantbird, they all state on their websites they can connect but it never works. With Pidgeon and Instantbird you get a Capcha error and trillian just doesn't have the right plugins. If you know something I don't I would be chuffed to hear about it! :) " 14:20:45 <aleth> just thought I'd pass it on 14:29:47 <flo> Pidgin has removed the qq plugin recently 14:30:46 <-- mmkmou has left #instantbird () 14:42:04 --> rikki has joined #instantbird 14:45:17 <-- sander85 has quit (Ping timeout) 15:07:27 --> sonny has joined #instantbird 15:32:19 <-- aleth has left #instantbird () 15:37:01 * flo has just pressed <tab> in his twitter tab where there are over 700 nicks listed :( 15:55:30 --> mmkmou has joined #instantbird 16:25:38 <-- ironhead has quit (Ping timeout) 16:26:22 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 16:29:08 <flo> JavaScript Error: "Cr is not defined" {file: "components/twitter.js" line: 65} :( 16:30:38 <-- mmkmou has quit (Ping timeout) 16:32:37 --> mmkmou has joined #instantbird 16:35:59 <-- sonny has left #instantbird () 16:38:36 <-- mmkmou has left #instantbird () 16:53:08 <instantbot> New Instantbird (UI) bug 889 filed by georg.palm@web.de. 16:53:10 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=889 enh, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, Improvements 17:01:10 <-- waynenguyen has quit (Connection reset by peer) 17:07:12 <-- aleth has left #instantbird () 17:12:47 <-- Andrey has quit (Quit: ) 17:56:40 <-- hunsly has quit (Ping timeout) 17:58:06 --> verdant has joined #instantbird 17:58:54 <-- verdant has left #instantbird () 18:02:48 --> mmkmou has joined #instantbird 18:04:49 <-- k3ta has quit (Quit: 12( www.nnscript.com 12:: NoNameScript 4.22 12:: www.esnation.com 12)) 18:12:21 <-- mmkmou has left #instantbird () 18:39:18 --> linuxwizard has joined #instantbird 18:49:45 --> mmkmou has joined #instantbird 18:56:47 --> chrisccoulson has joined #instantbird 19:04:48 --> ironhead has joined #instantbird 19:10:36 * flo has an add-on ready for when TheJJJ comes back 19:36:34 <-- mmkmou has quit (Ping timeout) 19:43:02 --> Mook has joined #instantbird 19:49:12 --> kelopez has joined #instantbird 19:49:22 <-- kelopez has left #instantbird () 19:59:19 --> sander85 has joined #instantbird 20:11:16 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 20:19:08 --> kelopez has joined #instantbird 20:19:14 <-- kelopez has left #instantbird () 20:23:30 --> werwolf has joined #instantbird 20:30:35 --> igorko has joined #instantbird 20:30:51 <igorko> hi 20:30:56 <igorko> Flo are you here? 20:32:25 <igorko> can i use internal Instantbird functions in addon? Or i need link to riginal functions in addon? 20:36:06 <-- igorko has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.0) 20:38:21 --> igorko has joined #instantbird 20:39:19 <-- igorko has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.0) 20:41:31 --> mmkmou has joined #instantbird 20:45:02 <-- linuxwizard has left #instantbird () 20:55:11 <-- aleth has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.0) 20:56:25 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 21:09:17 --> igorko has joined #instantbird 21:09:28 <-- aleth has left #instantbird () 21:10:49 <igorko> http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/8251/infa.jpg 21:11:03 <igorko> how to make sizes normal? 21:24:38 <-- igorko has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.0) 21:24:50 <-- Mook has quit (Ping timeout) 21:26:10 --> Mook has joined #instantbird 21:27:44 <Mook> are those images in a grid of some sort, igorko? 21:27:46 <Mook> oh, did he manage to leave while I got disconnected? 21:28:35 <flo> Mook: it seems so ;) 21:29:43 <Mook> I guess he's very good at timing things ;) (or I am, unintentionally) 21:36:24 --> hunsly has joined #instantbird 21:44:09 --> igorko has joined #instantbird 21:45:08 <igorko> http://pastie.org/2156003 coludsomeone help me? 21:45:35 <igorko> i want to make GetSmilesList() work 21:49:25 <-- igorko has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.0) 21:49:30 --> igorko has joined #instantbird 21:49:59 <-- mmkmou has quit (Ping timeout) 21:50:10 <-- igorko has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.0) 21:50:10 --> mmkmou has joined #instantbird 21:50:18 --> igorko has joined #instantbird 21:51:19 <igorko> pleease? :( 21:57:29 <-- igorko has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.0) 22:00:42 <-- Even has quit (Input/output error) 22:00:45 --> Even has joined #instantbird 22:00:45 * ChanServ sets mode +o Even 22:00:51 <-- Even has quit (Input/output error) 22:00:57 --> Even has joined #instantbird 22:00:58 * ChanServ sets mode +o Even 22:05:13 --> DGMurdockIII has joined #instantbird 22:10:33 --> linuxwizard has joined #instantbird 22:14:01 --> igorko has joined #instantbird 22:14:25 <igorko> i gor working external smiles with pasting links :) 22:14:29 <igorko> got* 22:14:30 <-- hunsly has quit (Ping timeout) 22:14:38 <igorko> [img]http://www.kolobok.us/smiles/standart/acute.gif[/img] 22:15:29 <igorko> someone should help me with getting internal smiles list and codes... 22:16:07 <flo> igorko: have you looked at the code of the preferences window? 22:16:24 <-- mmkmou has quit (Ping timeout) 22:16:25 <igorko> yes but i can't get them o panel 22:16:32 <igorko> i have pasted my code 22:16:43 <igorko> on panel* 22:16:54 <igorko> in preferences they are on richlist 22:17:07 <igorko> http://pastie.org/2156003 22:17:27 <igorko> i need GetSmilesList() 22:18:32 <flo> richlist or panel doesn't change the way to get them... 22:20:13 <igorko> http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/file/089e3aea6349/instantbird/content/preferences/smileys.js 22:20:13 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 22:20:13 * ChanServ sets mode +h clokep 22:20:24 <igorko> http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/file/089e3aea6349/instantbird/content/preferences/themes.xul 22:20:45 <igorko> onselect="smileysPreview.displayCurrentTheme();" 22:21:01 <igorko> i did it in onpopupshowing 22:21:14 <igorko> and it doesn't work :( 22:22:18 <igorko> i just changed ID in let list = document.getElementById("smiles-panel"); 22:22:30 <igorko> maybe i need some more code from smiles.js? 22:23:08 <igorko> (i have replaced smileysPreview with smiles-panel) 22:23:17 <sander85> flo: my build fails with this: http://pastebin.com/F7sX5AVr it seems that this python command is wrong :/ 22:23:42 <igorko> flo maybe i need that code from var smileysPreview = { too? 22:24:01 <igorko> load: function() {... 22:24:49 <flo> sander85: I think the error is above 22:26:51 <flo> clokep: hey, I thought you were away for the whole week-end! 22:27:11 <clokep> flo: I had a wedding to go to yesterday, home tonight then away tomorrow! :P 22:27:15 <clokep> So...I'm kind of away! 22:27:21 <clokep> Doing some light reading right now. ;) 22:27:27 <flo> Even is at a wedding too 22:28:26 <-- igorko has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.0) 22:28:33 --> igorko has joined #instantbird 22:28:47 <clokep> I bet it was a different one. ;) 22:28:48 <-- igorko has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.0) 22:29:00 <clokep> Apparently it's apopular weekend in the US. 22:29:30 --> igorko has joined #instantbird 22:30:34 <-- igorko has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.0) 22:30:43 <instantbot> New purplexpcom - General bug 890 filed by kofabj@gmail.com. 22:30:45 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=890 nor, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, I have a problem to run Instantbird 22:31:57 <flo> wow, nice error 22:34:00 --> mmkmou has joined #instantbird 22:35:20 * flo ponders a comment read on a forum (in French) saying "I can't use Instantbird because I haven't found how to *appear as invisible*" 22:35:54 <flo> the idea of appearing and being invisible at once seems crazy :) 22:37:41 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 22:42:41 <clokep> Re: Pidgin removing the QQ protocol...when we update to 2.9.* we should update to the (now) external & updated QQ I think? 22:43:49 <flo> yes :( 22:44:10 <flo> I'm trying to update to mozilla-5.0 for now 22:44:54 <clokep> "Trying" doesn't sound promising. :( 22:46:29 <clokep> flo: Is there a bug about being able to close out rooms and have them pop up when you're pinged? (Re bug 886 that half is a dup of bug 232) 22:46:32 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=886 enh, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, IRC Channels added to buddy list 22:46:33 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=232 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Can't add IRC channels to the buddy list 22:47:56 <flo> clokep: I've already fixed our patches, but there are at least 2 different build system changes that break the build and that I need to port 22:48:14 <clokep> Ah, they need to stop changing the build system! 22:48:14 <flo> + I'm afraid we are dropping PPC support for real this time 22:50:16 <flo> the summary of bug 886 is just very bad, but I think it's not a dup 22:50:19 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=886 enh, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, IRC Channels added to buddy list 22:50:59 <clokep> I'm going to morph it into your "don't show chats unless interesting stuff is going on then" :P 22:51:08 <clokep> Yes, I'd be surprised if PPC works. :-/ 22:51:39 <clokep> Except I have no idea how to word that. 22:51:54 <-- vicnet has quit (Ping timeout) 22:54:09 <Tonnes> guys.. are there any plans to improve the web site's font type? 22:56:06 <flo> we added the characters that were missing for the pl, sk, and cs locales recently 22:58:39 <flo> http://queze.net/goinfre/about1.1a1pre.png :) 23:06:33 <-- ironhead has quit (Ping timeout) 23:07:29 <instantbot> New Instantbird (UI) bug 891 filed by gies.nate@gmail.com. 23:07:31 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=891 tri, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, Add-Ons Window Doesn't Close CMD+W 23:08:32 <-- clokep has quit (Ping timeout) 23:11:41 --> vicnet has joined #instantbird 23:19:10 <instantbot> New Instantbird (UI) bug 892 filed by gies.nate@gmail.com. 23:19:12 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=892 cri, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, Lock-Up When Installing New Add-On 23:19:17 <DGMurdockIII> how come im still on 0.3 23:22:01 <flo> 0.3pre 23:22:09 <flo> have you read our latest blog post? 23:30:20 <flo> douglaswth: I wrote a bootstrapped add-on for the "swap the behavior of enter and ctrl+enter" thing TheJJJ wanted. I based if off your Tab Complete code, then I've simplified the way the conversations are enumerated. Just thought you may want to see the modified source: http://pastebin.instantbird.com/846 23:34:51 <flo> Good night :) 23:35:35 <-- aleth has left #instantbird () 23:50:22 --> micahg has joined #instantbird