#instantbird log on 06 26 2011

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00:03:35 <flo> clokep: is there anything that I should remember from the discussion about the release notes for Friday?
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00:05:13 <clokep> flo: http://log.bezut.info/instantbird/110624/#m453
00:05:43 <flo> http://pastebin.instantbird.com/825 too I think?
00:06:03 <clokep> Yes
00:07:12 <flo> I mean't "without quitting Instantbird"
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00:08:39 <flo> so should I include something in the known issues?
00:08:47 <flo> the twitter timeline that we can't reopen?
00:08:57 <clokep> I think it's worth mentioning.
00:09:13 <flo> any idea of a sensible wording?
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00:10:00 <clokep> "The Twitter timeline cannot be reopened manually to send a tweet."?
00:10:53 <flo> "After closing the twitter timeline, it cannot be reopened manually to send a tweet, it will reopen itself automatically upon receiving a tweet." ?
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00:11:42 <clokep> That sounds good I think.
00:11:54 <clokep> I wasn't sure how to fit that reopen automatically part in there. :)
00:12:10 <flo> it's a collaborative work
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00:15:42 <clokep> :)
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00:28:12 <flo> so apparently "In addition, you can switch the buddy you're talking to by clicking on the protocol icon." isn't clear enough
00:28:45 <clokep> :-/ Comment about it somewhere?
00:29:30 <clokep> (As in, did someone ask abou tit somewhere?)
00:29:52 <flo> in deOmega's pastebin
00:29:59 <flo> http://pastebin.instantbird.com/825
00:30:45 <clokep> Hmm....
00:31:12 <clokep> Maybe....
00:31:17 <flo> what about "In addition, you can change the IM network you're using for the conversation by clicking on the protocol icon."
00:31:18 <flo> ?
00:31:26 <clokep> "In addition, you can switch the network you're talking to that contact to by clicking on the protocol icon."
00:31:33 <clokep> Hah, yes. :)
00:34:57 <flo> http://www-staging.instantbird.com/release-notes.html is this ready to be made localizable?
00:36:02 <clokep> flo: I'm getting this error http://pastebin.instantbird.com/826 on this src file http://pastebin.instantbird.com/827 any ideas what i tmeans?
00:36:07 * clokep is reading that now.
00:37:26 <clokep> flo: I think it looks good.
00:37:38 <flo> try looking at the preprocessor output
00:37:55 <clokep> That's in the obj folder?
00:38:40 <clokep> I found an http-conn.obj.pp in the object folder and it's blank?
00:38:49 <flo> type make http-conn.i
00:39:04 <flo> inside obj-dir/purple/libpurple/protocols/sipe
00:42:42 <clokep> OK, that generated a 50k line file. :)
00:43:38 <clokep> When I look at the "#line 481" section, it still has #ifdefs in it.
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01:15:30 <flo> the 1.0 release notes are now localizable
01:16:28 <douglaswth> hmm, anyone know a way to initially load an extension via a shortcut to the development directory without restarting?
01:19:06 <clokep> Well it seems like these lines are the issue, but I'm not sure why....http://pastebin.instantbird.com/828
01:19:28 <clokep> douglaswth: I don't think that's posisble but, not poisitve.
01:20:03 <flo> douglaswth: if there's a way, it probaby involves typing some magic incantations in the error console touching the internals of the add-on manager
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02:18:15 <flo> at this point only 3 pages are still not localizable yet.
02:18:49 <flo> http://www-staging.instantbird.com/faq.html http://www-staging.instantbird.com/system-requirements.html http://www-staging.instantbird.com/thanks.html
02:19:11 <flo> if anybody feels likes working on them while I'll be asleep, that would be great!
02:19:39 <flo> there are plenty of examples of what should be done in my recent commits
02:21:10 <flo> (some other pages are not localizable, but I don't think it would make sense to localize them: http://www-staging.instantbird.com/about-flo.html and the old release notes)
02:22:22 <flo> ah, http://www-staging.instantbird.com/instantbird.org.html too would need to be localized :(
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08:14:52 <flo> hello :)
08:15:25 <flo> FeuerFliege: have you had an opportunity to look at the screenshot I took and those vicnet took yesterday? Are they usable? :)
08:17:48 <varuna> flo: How do I set the buddy Icon? I see you can set a file name using buddyIconFilename. So should I save the icon in a file and set the buddyIconFilename to that?
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08:18:56 <flo> varuna: the question is for the icons of the people in the roster, right?
08:19:34 <varuna> yes
08:21:19 <flo> yes, you need to somehow save the icon somewhere in the profile (inside the "icons" folder, or a subdirectory of it seems a good place) and then the buddyIconFilename should be the spec (string representation) of an URI to that file.
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08:22:30 <varuna> how do I get the path of the profile?
08:22:36 <flo> this is something for which we would need to add some helper code so but infortunately it hasn't been done yet because libpurple protocols already use libpurple functions to store icons in <profile>/icons and twitter doesn't need that as the icons are received from http and providing the HTTP icons and relying on the Mozilla HTTP cache is enough for them
08:23:30 <flo> varuna: see for an exemple http://lxr.instantbird.org/instantbird/source/instantbird/content/preferences/privacy.js#69
08:23:47 <varuna> thanks
08:24:00 <flo> you may need to create the "icons" folder if it doesn't exist yet (it will exist only if libpurple has already saved at least one icon I think).
08:25:00 <flo> for a future version of Instantbird, I would like to store all these buddy icons in sqlite with a timestamp of when they started being used and when they stopped being used so that when looking at an old log in the log viewer we could display the right icon for that time.
08:25:21 <flo> but this is complicated to implement and I'm assuming you want something that can work today :)
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09:19:22 <Chaz6> do you have any idea when you'll drop libpurple for pure js protocols?
09:19:38 <flo> we don't plan to do that
09:20:13 <flo> we are unlikely to have enough resources to redevelop all the protocols in JS
09:20:33 <Chaz6> Ah shame, sounds like a good gsoc project, to at least implement one protocol in js
09:20:51 <flo> so most likely, we will redevelop in JS the protocols that we really care about (for example XMPP that we want to have as extensible as possible), and we will probably increasingly sandbox the remaining libpurple plugins
09:21:08 <flo> varuna is our gsoc student, implementing XMPP in JS ;)
09:21:13 <Chaz6> hurrah :)
09:21:23 <Chaz6> Did you see that gtalk has switched to proper jingle now?
09:21:52 <flo> I saw people talking about it, but haven't looked closely
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09:22:00 <flo> we are not in a position of take advantage of it... yet.
09:22:19 <flo> but this may change soon (3-6 months seems the minimum)
09:23:12 <Chaz6> Right now the feature i want implemented most is file transfers
09:23:24 <Chaz6> Just accepting files is enough for me
09:23:39 <flo> maybe you can start working on it? :)
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09:24:35 <Chaz6> I wouldn't know where to start c.c
09:24:49 <Chaz6> I could put a cheap bounty on it
09:25:44 <flo> do you have some coding skills? :)
09:26:08 <Chaz6> Mainly perl and python
09:26:18 <Chaz6> I don't know c/c++ at all
09:26:41 <flo> there are 2 different ways to work on it:
09:27:02 <flo> either decide we want to use the libpurple file transfer support (which is broken on most protocols)
09:27:27 <flo> or wait for varuna to have is work merged and used by default, and implement file transfer in JS on the JS XMPP
09:27:31 <flo> *his
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09:36:08 <FeuerFliege> flo: No, I didn't had the opportunity to look at them yet. I have just finished breakfast ;)
09:36:31 <flo> ok, well, it's Sunday :)
09:36:38 <flo> I hope they'll be good enough :)
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10:15:55 <Mic|web> Hi, FeuerFliege: if you like to take the screenshots for en-US too, I wouldn't mind. I've been busy since yesterday morning and don't know when I'll get to do it
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10:17:34 <FeuerFliege> Mic|web: ok. I'll make the screenshots.
10:17:36 <flo> Mic|web: hello. Any unexpected worries? :-/
10:17:59 <Mic|web> No, not really, just busy
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10:21:32 <Mic|web> gtg, have a nice day
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10:26:40 <mistraven> hey flo, just wanted to say thanks for the guidance yesterday on how to start theming instantbird
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10:27:19 <flo> mistraven: have you succeeded in doing what you wanted? :)
10:28:21 <mistraven> i'm not done, but i managed to take the files from the simple theme from the web and make some modifications and then put them in my own .xpi-file and loading them in instantbird
10:28:49 <flo> oh, so now the fun can begin? ;)
10:29:05 <mistraven> yep  :)
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10:30:45 <mistraven> now i will just need to dig in on the css and when i'm done i will show you the result
10:31:45 <mistraven> i will have some time today and maybe sometime tomorrow, but if i'm not done tomorrow evening, then it will have to wait until next week
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10:35:07 <flo> tomorrow is next week already ;)
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10:38:07 <mistraven> flo, true although i do think you understood what i meant ;)
10:38:58 <flo> :)
10:39:09 <mistraven> i will be up in the mountains for 6 days with no internet ^^
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10:51:31 <flo> what would you all think of posting today on the blog a "Why Instantbird?" post?
10:51:56 <flo> it would just be a copy paste of http://www.instantbird.org/ (stopping before "Getting involved")
10:52:32 <flo> and "We bring you Instantbird because..." would be replaced with "Summary: Because..."
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11:30:25 <mistraven> flo, it is nice playing around with the css
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12:42:46 <flo> the reactions to that latest blog post are so great :-D. 1. "the icon looks odd". 2. "please add a possibility to turn that off"
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12:46:04 <flo> do we have some trivially easy to understand documentation about userChrome.css available somewhere?
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12:55:59 <mistraven> hmm, i'm having trouble with setting the width of the psuedo-element in my theme to 100%, it will always continue outside of the conversation window
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12:57:44 <clokep> flo: I don't think so, MDN might have something though.
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13:05:10 <clokep> flo: I feel like that's the expected reaction of some people, I hope most people like it though (I think it's nice). I think you need to balance "minimalistic" and "nice", but I don't we've given too much of either up.
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13:05:33 <clokep> And many people think it is necessary information. :)
13:05:40 <deOmega> clokep, you are absolutely right :).. all i did was bump the version.. man, now it does not feel so special.
13:05:55 <deOmega> good day
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13:06:32 <flo> clokep: I know people who like something tend to no comment about it ;)
13:06:35 <clokep> Hah, well I think we can mass up the version of those in the database, so I wanted to make sure you didn't put in more work that needs to be included. :)
13:07:09 <clokep> flo: Of course! :) I'm sure most people will be OK w/ it.
13:07:11 <clokep> Anywa,y breakfast time.
13:07:28 <flo> it'll be ok or they will even love it :)
13:07:59 <deOmega> ha.  ok.  that would be cool.   I think it woudl be nice to have a lotr of teh addons working on teh release of version 1
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13:09:37 <deOmega> and display some of the eye candies.
13:10:09 <deOmega> have a great day all.
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13:12:54 <mistraven> flo, are you good with css?
13:13:36 <flo> mistraven: I'm almost sure this is *not* the question you wanted to ask ;). What's the problem?
13:14:59 <mistraven> i'm trying to figure out how to restrict the width of a span element so that it won't exceed the width of the conversation window
13:16:03 <mistraven> it has the css properties "display: block; width: 100%;"
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13:16:25 <flo> does it have margins?
13:17:22 <mistraven> no margins on the side, only below and above, but it does have a border
13:18:40 <flo> does it exceed the width of the window only by the size of the border?
13:19:02 <mistraven> i'm not sure, it could be
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13:19:33 <mistraven> i have thought of that too, although i don't know how to test it
13:21:07 <flo> with DOM inspector? :)
13:21:19 <rikki> hmm, just my 2 cents would a dynamically changing max-width property work?
13:22:28 <mistraven> i didn't know DOM inspector was available for instantbird
13:22:48 <flo> it works for all mozilla applications
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13:25:39 <mistraven> the one available on the instantbird addon site is old though and only works with v0.2
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13:27:36 <flo> mistraven: take the one from addons.mozilla.org
13:27:51 <mistraven> kk
13:28:35 <flo> it would probably be a good idea to put an updated one on our website before the release, so that it can be installed simply by searching inside the add-ons manager
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13:32:01 <clokep> Yes, most likely. :)
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13:33:31 <mistraven> kk, got dom-inspector now :)
13:36:10 <FeuerFliege> flo: i have uploaded a new version of DOMi but it is waiting for a review
13:36:28 <flo> have you added a menuitem to open it?
13:36:36 <FeuerFliege> yes
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13:37:39 <FeuerFliege> should I not?
13:38:07 <FeuerFliege> https://addons.instantbird.org/en-US/instantbird/addons/versions/210
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13:38:19 <clokep> Is it possible we can upload it over the other one? So people can just update to it?
13:38:21 <flo> I can't resolve http://tn123.ath.cx/instantbird/inspector.diff
13:38:26 <flo> is there a typo in the domain name?
13:38:27 <FeuerFliege> clokep: it is
13:38:35 <clokep> Ah, I see.
13:39:13 <flo> FeuerFliege: "Is it possible we can upload it over the other one? So people can just update to it?" isn't this what you have already done?
13:39:30 <FeuerFliege> flo: yes
13:39:35 <mistraven> so how do i open DOM inspector in IB?
13:39:37 <clokep> I didn't realize he was an author on that one.
13:39:47 <flo> mistraven: -inspector on the command line
13:39:56 <FeuerFliege> clokep: i am not. but i contacted the owner and he added me as dev
13:40:04 <clokep> And I assumed only an author can update their add-on...so...my assumption was he uploaded it as a new one.
13:40:09 <clokep> FeuerFliege: Right, I see that now. I didn't realize that.
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13:40:40 <flo> clokep: I assumed the same.
13:40:46 <flo> but I'm looking at the review request right now ;)
13:41:04 <clokep> It took me a long time to find the proper add-on page for it. :)
13:41:34 <flo> should we try to have these changes integrated by default? If they took songbird, they can take us I think
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13:41:58 <clokep> We should I think. (This was discussed before and we never filed a bug for it. ;))
13:42:05 <FeuerFliege> flo: you can open the AMO addon with openDialog("chrome://inspector/content/inspector.xul")
13:42:20 <flo> FeuerFliege: it's not for me ;)
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13:42:33 <flo> I do it with Command+shift+i on any window on my debug build ;)
13:43:24 <flo> FeuerFliege: I assume you have tested it before uploading it, right? :)
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13:44:31 <FeuerFliege> yes
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13:49:40 <flo> that addons website is stupid
13:50:04 <flo> I can't review an updated add-on without specifying with which OS/application I've tested the add-on
13:50:19 <flo> but for an add-on nominated for the first time, it doesn't ask about it...
13:51:08 <deOmega> mistraven:  I don't know if this will help you any, but I remember looking at it when i was curious (I naturally got nowhere of course)   http://wiki.songbirdnest.com/Developer/Articles/Getting_Started/Creating_Feathers
13:52:02 <FeuerFliege> flo: btw no answer from the German dictionary guy.
13:52:09 <flo> that Tab completion add-on is awesome. I think it will motivate us to fix bug 832
13:52:12 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=832 enh, --, ---, clokep, ASSI, Differentiate commands that work only in MUCs for /help
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13:52:30 <mistraven> deOmega: thanks, i have seen it before
13:52:48 <clokep> I'll get to it. ;)
13:53:02 <clokep> I figured we werne't taking any check-ins this week though so I havne't worked on core code.
13:53:10 <deOmega> mistraven: You are welcome.  
13:53:24 <flo> clokep: right
13:53:33 <flo> as I said "*will* motivate us"
13:53:45 <clokep> :)
13:54:04 <clokep> Will it also motivate us to include tab completion support by default? ;)
13:54:15 <flo> :-]
13:54:24 <FeuerFliege> flo: where is a tab completion addon? I cannot find it.
13:54:36 <flo> it was in the sandbox a minute ago
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13:55:19 <mistraven> hmm, im finding the DOM inspector to be very confusing right now
13:55:36 <deOmega> How did you do that bold text flo?  (Somehow i think I knew this before..  please be patient with me)
13:55:55 <flo> just put something between * characters
13:56:14 <flo> /italic/ _underlined_ |code| should also work
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13:56:26 <deOmega> *like this* gives you bold.  
13:56:43 <deOmega> ok, i am starting to keep notes on stuff,  because i just do not remember stuff anymore
13:57:34 <clokep> Well it usually works, I think there's a bug in it somewhere...
13:57:57 <flo> if anybody is interested, we made a "fake" 'Cot' locale of the website to verify which strings are already localizable and which aren't: http://www-staging.instantbird.com/ct/
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13:58:56 <FeuerFliege> mistraven: what do you need?
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13:59:29 <FeuerFliege> flo: nice :)
13:59:40 <mistraven> FeuerFliege: trying to find a specific css element
14:00:02 <flo> I still have the "thanks", the "system-requirements" and the instantbird.org pages to make localizable
14:00:52 <flo> clokep: looking at your LJ protocol override, isn't there something in jsProtoHelper to help you with UsernameSplit stuff?
14:01:39 <flo> ah, it's an override, ok
14:02:12 <FeuerFliege> mistraven: I meant what is confusing.
14:02:26 <flo> and the code is mine from the facebook prpl :-]
14:02:28 <flo> ok, sorry
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14:03:44 <mistraven> FeuerFliege: it is confusing because i can't find it with the DOM inspector, and i know it exist because i can see it
14:03:47 <flo> I think I've granted all the pending add-on review
14:03:48 <flo> s
14:04:44 <FeuerFliege> mistraven: doesn't it come up when you select the elemet by click?
14:04:52 <flo> FeuerFliege: do you have an ETA for the screenshots? It would look more like 1.0 on the website with newer screenshots :)
14:06:14 <mistraven> FeuerFliege: nope
14:07:43 <FeuerFliege> flo: i just have to replace the pics in this folder¹, commit and push it (and use the 1.0 branch of cause), right?
14:07:43 <FeuerFliege> ¹ http://hg.instantbird.org/websites/www.instantbird.com/file/tip/images/screenshots
14:08:22 <flo> right :)
14:08:44 <flo> and put something different from "windows" for the prefix of the aero screenshots
14:08:49 <flo> "winaero" sounds good to me
14:08:49 <clokep> flo: Yeah, there really isn't it's something I need to fix in jsProtoHelper, but it isn't fixed yet.
14:08:55 <flo> I'll have a script to edit
14:09:15 <flo> clokep: does it really matter?
14:09:22 <clokep> varuna: Is your XMPP in JS usable?
14:09:30 <clokep> flo: Only if we want code re-use. ;)
14:09:47 <flo> the usersplit thing is a bit crappy to begin with
14:10:06 <clokep> Yes I agree, if we could fix that in a better way it'd be good. But I'm not realy sure how.
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14:10:59 <flo> first the resource should be a protocol option on jabber, not part of the username
14:13:41 <varuna> clokep: kind of ... but the code isn't documented and there's a lot of debugging stuff which i need to clean up
14:14:14 <clokep> varuna: OK, let me know if you'd like someone else to start running it! :)
14:14:29 <varuna> the chat plugin is usable
14:14:43 <varuna> ok i was thinking of documenting and cleaning up next week
14:14:50 <flo> sounds good :)
14:15:00 <clokep> Awesome. :)
14:15:02 <flo> I hope to have more time after the 1.0 release to review it and help you find possible code improvements
14:17:20 <varuna> flo: that'ld be great :), you'll probably find a plenty of them :D
14:17:47 <flo> that's the point of a review: improve the overall quality and spot the parts that are messy/hard to understand
14:17:53 <FeuerFliege> flo: But the folder is not connected with www-staging, right? I did a little test an hour or so ago but the picture is still the old one
14:17:58 <flo> if we want add-on authors to be able to extend it, it needs to be readable
14:18:08 <flo> FeuerFliege: uh ?
14:18:53 <FeuerFliege> or i made an error …
14:18:55 <FeuerFliege> http://hg.instantbird.org/websites/www.instantbird.com/graph
14:18:57 <flo> aaaah, I guess the bug is the same as what we had for localization updates on the website
14:19:02 <flo> let me fix this :)
14:19:18 <flo> by the way, please use something more explicit than "Florian" when pushing in a repository where I push too ;)
14:20:33 <FeuerFliege> flo: why is my last name not there? I'll check the settings.
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14:21:11 <flo> "Florian@Florian-PC.fritz.box" seems a lot like <username>@<hostname>, so it's possible your username isn't set in your hg client
14:22:54 <flo> FeuerFliege: your next push should be visible on www-staging
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14:30:07 <FeuerFliege> mistraven: the CSS of what element do you want?
14:31:41 <mistraven> FeuerFliege: i found it, although it took some time
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14:45:23 <flo> FeuerFliege: I think this http://pastebin.instantbird.com/831 should make the website use winaero screenshots automatically when coming with an aero Windows. If it looks OK to you I'm going to push it.
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14:47:35 <FeuerFliege> flo: looks good
14:49:14 <flo> ok, pushed :)
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15:04:01 <clokep> Something which I find kind of strange...if I have a contact iwth two buddies (A & B, where A is the "preferred buddy"). If only B is signed on, and they sign off...the contact switches to showing "A" and does the sign off transition, instad of just showing the sign off transition.
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15:07:12 <flo> clokep: the current behavior makes sense technically. But I understand it's unlikely to be what the user expects when offline buddies aren't shown
15:07:42 <clokep> Ah, I didn't consider offline buddies.
15:07:59 <flo> file a bug?
15:08:06 <clokep> OK. :)
15:08:19 <flo> I'm not sure someone will work on it though ;)
15:08:26 <clokep> Haha. Yes.
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15:22:16 <instantbot> New Instantbird (UI) bug 853 filed by clokep@gmail.com.
15:22:20 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=853 min, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Strange sign off behavior
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15:28:31 <clokep> I hate compiling things, so much.
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15:36:23 <mistraven> weird, my css-problem just vanished, although i didn't make any changes that would explain it
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15:36:58 <mistraven> i just added a div, added som css to the new div, and then removed the div and the related changes...
15:37:44 <mistraven> now everything look as i intended though, so i guess i'm happy... although it would be nice to know what i did wrong
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15:40:44 <clokep> Ah-ha! I needed to add a mkdir. :)
15:41:04 <clokep> You must've fixed some minor CSS error you had. :)
15:41:44 <mistraven> yeah, could have been a small syntax error or something
15:46:02 <clokep> :) What are you changing about simple?
15:46:46 <mistraven> give me a moment and i will get you a screenshot
15:48:30 <clokep> :) OK.
15:50:11 <mistraven> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1665592/ib_simple_modified.JPG
15:51:05 <clokep> Hmm...interesting looking. :)
15:51:42 <mistraven> :)
15:53:30 <mistraven> my goal was to make the conversations a little bit easier to follow while still keep the theme very compact
15:54:42 <mistraven> i will also add a couple of different color variations before i'm finished
15:56:21 <clokep> Cool!
15:56:29 <clokep> Looks good. I'm excitred to see it when it's finished.
15:59:45 <mistraven> it will most likely take a week or two before i'm finished
16:01:00 <clokep> Of course.
16:01:57 <mistraven> it is a lot of fun to make the theme though... :)
16:02:49 <clokep> WHOA! I just dropped a penny on my counter top, to check if it was copper or zinc...and it bounced and landed balanced on it's side.
16:03:59 <mistraven> ^^
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17:20:46 <FeuerFliege_away> flo: I cannot see the winaero pix on www-staging, but they exist
17:23:18 <flo> FeuerFliege_away: looking :)
17:25:20 <flo> have you tried shift releoad on the page?
17:26:15 <FeuerFliege_away> yes i skipped the cache
17:26:27 <FeuerFliege_away> i can see linux, mac and normal windows
17:26:57 <flo> are you playing with userageant switcher for that?
17:26:59 <FeuerFliege_away> (when I adjust the useragent)
17:27:09 <FeuerFliege_away> thats right
17:27:23 <flo> let me get that :)
17:28:20 <FeuerFliege_away> my normal useragent is 
17:28:20 <FeuerFliege_away> Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WoW64; rv:7.0a1) Gecko/20110621 Firefox/7.0a1 
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17:30:54 <flo> hmm, which image should I test with?
17:31:01 <flo> the features page?
17:32:00 <flo> well, stupid question
17:32:08 <flo> don't worry, I'll take care of this issue :)
17:32:53 <FeuerFliege_away> http://www-staging.instantbird.com/features.html
17:33:21 <flo> I typoed
17:38:03 <flo> FeuerFliege_away: fixed! :)
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17:43:01 <igorko> hi
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17:46:25 <flo> igorko: hello :)
17:50:25 <igorko> hm, i just checked out https://hg.instantbird.org/websites/www.instantbird.com/ but i don't see ln10 folder there
17:50:39 <igorko> l10n*
17:54:27 <flo> don't worry about it, just use https://hg.instantbird.org/l10n/en-US/ :)
17:55:23 <igorko> i rocks Thanks
17:55:25 <igorko> ;)
17:57:14 <igorko> Yeah- second mail in my inbox ;)
17:58:34 <igorko> flo i have ne proble with instantbird.com site On my PC (on all browsers) siet loads about 10 second. In the same time it hangs OS
17:58:46 <igorko> could this be site bug? Or it's my own?
17:58:55 <igorko> the problem*
17:59:24 <flo> is this only on the first load or everytime you load it?
17:59:36 <flo> it could be related to the fact that it's using a custom font
17:59:38 <igorko> first load
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19:41:39 <igorko> flo ansi or utf for website?
19:43:20 <igorko> utf...
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19:51:08 <DGMurdockIII> 2(igorko2): what are you alk
19:51:14 <DGMurdockIII> 2(igorko2): what are you asking
19:51:18 <igorko> newermind
19:51:29 <igorko> i was talking about site translaion encoding
19:53:33 <igorko> how long should i wait before translated site will be online?
19:53:54 <igorko> "immediately" doesn't happen ;)
19:54:10 <igorko> done
19:54:12 <igorko> cool
20:00:46 <flo> utf 8 :)
20:05:25 <igorko> already online ;)
20:05:57 <igorko> needs some updates ...
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22:30:26 <douglaswth> flo: thanks for making my tab complete addon public
22:30:36 <flo> thanks for making it! :)
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